Agreed... At least at this point in time; we need time to to see how things play out (with our team and other clubs alike) in order to say who comes and goes really.
I do wish we could assert ourselves as a true buying [better word 'transfer'] force in the market this year though.
(...With the necessary transfers that is)

Here's a new one from milannews: Milan are apparently also interested in Shakhtar captain Dario Srna (who also is a regular starter for the Croatian NT). Srna can play as fullback and in midfield. Good ball control and good on set pieces (he's their free kick and corner guy).

Great, another Croat named Dario in our squad.

I remember Srna looked very good when we played Shakhtar.

Something just crossed my mind the other day, why the hell don't wee look at the players INSIDE Italy? when was the last time we bought a 'star' from a Serie A club who immediately made it to the XI without a particular problem?!...

I just woke up, zeddie, but the last two I remember being bought from italian clubs and starting immediately are Nesta and Rui.

That's what I thought. and it says a lot... if I didn't know the management have a fetish for other leagues' players I'd think we're banned from signing Serie A based players or something...

Interesting rumor on milannews:
There's talk of a trade between Milan and Napoli -- Hamsik for Borriello and $$.

What do you guys think?

Couldn't hurt. It's not as if Borriello has ever been an invaluable cornerstone of the squad.

I'd take the plunge.

Don't think it's reasonable. Hamsik along with Santacroce are the stars for the future for Napoli, and Borriello just came off an injury-plagued season.

I hope not. First of all, we're packed in the midfield, if Hamsik is already being considered, this would mean that Gourcuff has absolutly no future in the club. Hamsik is great, no doubt, but Gourcuff is way better. Also if this were to happen we'd absolutly need to get a new striker, meaning that we'd have that much less funds to use in the defence which is what we should be focusing on anyways. Only player we should consider swapping Borriello for in Napoli, is Santacroce.

Hamsik for Borriello would be too good to be true!!! Marek Hamsik is versatile, sublimely skilled/adept passer utility midfielder than can slot in anywhere in the midfield. He has the physical characteristics to be a ball-winner, with the ability to pass and create from deep in the midfield. If Hamsik were on our team, we could slot him in next to pirlo, and he could do a box to box job for us - goodbye seedorf .

i like borriello and his characteristics. the only reason i would consider allowing him to leave is because demba ba and edin dzeko are excellent strikers in the same mold - true modern strikers with the tall, physical imposing frames (like borriello) but both have a classy touch on the ball. Dzeko would be the more dangerous finisher in the area, while Demba Ba is a hounding, charismatic leader of the front line with endless energy, more foot skill (than ade/dzeko), ball winning capability, and tactical awareness on the front line. Both are more than capable of replacing Borriello and will end up at big clubs very soon...and i would much rather have either of these two partner pato than adebayor. They both have higher potential than Borri or Ade.

Dzeko has JUST said in the press that he is aware of the interest from chelsea, however says he would rather play for either AC Milan or Juve. It sounds like he knows he'll be moving, and would rather play for clubs that he likes rather than sell his soul and move to chelsea. I say we sign him regardless, as it was a signing like this that we should have made last season instead of dinho.

i don't dislike borri, and think he could be a fine player for us. But i think Dzeko's and Ba's ceilings are higher, and if we could get hamsik for Borri, and pick up one of those two, we'd be better for it.

I am convinced that if our team made these moves, in addition to another young CB - Santacrocce, Kjaer, etc, we would have much better balance in the team in terms of age, wouldn't experience any drastic drop in quality, and increase the potential upside of the team.

Dinho provides a team chemistry/team selection headache for any manager of our club. I would rather have a player like yoann come in, play with heart and effort, and gradually improve than see an uninspiring dinho come on and perform half of the stuff he should be able to do due to his laziness while getting paid far more than he should be paid.


Hamsik, gourcuff, dzeko/demba ba in.

Seedorf, Borriello, Dinho out.

Fishdoll mostly agrees with you, vnata. Still not entirely sold on Saint Yoann but am willing to wait and see. Would prefer him - even with my doubts - over Ronaldinho.

This side would have physical strength, technical ability, and pace. and believe me, when coming up against the strength of chelsea, the technical class of barca, or the strength/technical class of manchester/liverpool, you need all three to beat them. cuz lets be real, these are the best 3 clubs in the world, with inter/arsenal lagging behind them, but in front of us as our direct competition for the European title. This starting 11 would make us as good as any of them.

Dida/Abbiati (New young keeper would be nice)

Flamini - Thiago - Nesta - Srna/Zambro

Hamsik Pirlo Gattuso

Kaka

Pato Dzeko/Ba

DEF: Kjaer, Kaladze, Ambro, Gourcuff, Pippo

now that's a team primed with a good balance of youthful energy, championship experience, and the quality necessary to make an assault on the european competition

(In case people aren't religiously reading the training reports in match threads, NESTA is going into his second week of training with the team, btw. Fishdoll is a little afraid he'll play this weekend or next. He likes Nesta, but he's embarrassed when I squeal on seeing Nesta. Thinks it's undignified.)

Kjaer is a player I like. Would prefer Santacroce but, well, we'll see.

I'd love to see this but it would only make sense if we got rid of Ronaldinho and/or Beckham ('and' if we also bring back Gourcuff) which is not going to happen. Also, we are looking to buy a forward and unless we have secured a signature I can't see anyone from the front line leaving.

Borriello leaving Milan yet again would be funny... for me, not him!

I'm all for it! in fact, I would be content with either him or Yoann. I think they're both very good, but maybe Hamsik is less of a risk considering he is proven in Serie A, and he is more versatile. Yoann may come back and find it hark to adapt/get along with Carlo again.

Here's a list of the squad from Mediaset, along with Mediaset's guess on the percentage chance of their remaining and a possible destination if they do leave.

Abbiati P 100% -
Dida P 70% Premier
Kalac P 50% Non ha offerte
Mattioni D 10% Udinese
Maldini D 0% Fine carriera
Kaladze D 80% -
Nesta D 100% -
Zambrotta D 100% -
Jankulovski D 100% -
Favalli D 50% Possibile ritiro
Senderos D 70% Aston Villa
Bonera D 100% -
Darmian D 10% Prestito
Antonini D 100%
Gattuso C 100% -
Cardacio C 20% -
Pirlo C 100% -
Ambrosini C 90% Non ha offerte
Beckham C 50% LA Galaxy
Flamini C 100% -
Seedorf C 70% Chelsea
Inzaghi A 100% -
Pato A 100% -
Borriello A 90% Napoli
Viudez A 0% Non ha offerte
Kakà A 100% -
Shevchenko A 30% Chelsea
Ronaldinho A 100% -
Ancelotti AL 30% Chelsea

I'll say those percentages are about accurate. Except I think Ambrosini should be a 100%, and Dinho a little less.

Hamsik would probably be our 3rd most attacking midfielder behind Kaka and Ronnie(who is leaving to city this summer). So From a Rijkaard prospective, he would be a great buy. Besides, Donadoni has repeatedly said he would want Boriello next summer. Either Napoli or we can use him to get thiago motta from genoa. With genoa probably selling milito to inter for over 20+M they would want a forward they know can play the system (boriello's loan spell with genoa proved such). So one would have to think of which player would suit the Barca-style midfield. I don't know if alot of our mids are as attacking as Rijkaard would like too, so one could maybe expect a clusterf*** of transfers.





+1 000 000 000 000 000 VNATA!!!!!

i have been saying demba ba's name since december and also beleive with the current recession, we will be forced to look at bundesliga players (Ba/Dzeko/Novakovic) for a lesser price. Demba is what borriello aspires to!

No way Dida's going to the Premier League, especially this late in his career, and he should finish out the last year of his deal over here. I can't see Seedorf going to Chelsea in a million years, either, as well as Sheva, because they've said they don't want him back.

I don't rate Demba Ba that high. But Wolfsburg is a rather good destination to shop. So is HSV and BVB. Bundesliga could provide us with a few not-so-expensive players, just like France and Holland. We should keep an eye on Bayern as well, maybe Lahm or Schwein will be on the market. As for Srna...best croatian player avaible. Emense talent, very consistent and hard-working. Just what we need for a more offensive and dangerous RB or RM.

Srna was great whenever I watched him play but we need a LB more than we need a RB in my opinion.

(albertazzi)

(ancelotti)

(as roma)

(ain't gonna happen)

hmm

Interesting, so they think Sheva and Seedorf could be on their way to Chelsea along with Carlo.

Personally I think both players will stay, extend Sheva loan deal and Seedorf I personally can't see leaving at this strage.

Carlo... After those comments made by all parties involved I'm pretty sure will leave. Personally I'm not a fan of having Van Basten replacing him but I think a change has to happen.

Are Viudez, Darmian and Cardacio more likely to be loaned or sold?

@ the (conversation)

That's a very interesting list indeed, thanks Tennie! I do not think Ancelotti will go though I obviously would not be surprised if he did. Sheva will most probably go and Seedorf will stay.

I personally can't see Sheva leaving, Chelsea I'm pretty sure don't want him back and he doesn't want to go either. So it will either be 1 of 2 options

1. Cheslea release him of his contract and he either chooses Milan or go back to Ukraine
2. Milan and Chelsea agree to extend his loan deal

I see the second option as the most likely outcome. Chelsea aren't all that cleaver, this is what they did with Crespo and it's what they're doing with Sheva, while they are basically paying more then half of the player's salary...

@ han

Perhaps I'm too desperate but at this point I'd rather have MvB than Carlo. Carlo is the better coach out of the two, but that's irrelevant as his time is up, it's not working anymore... Rijkaard was a better coach than Pep Guardiola but he could never have made Barca this good this season. sometime being a great and experienced coach is not the answer.

That said, I still think Rijkaard is a better choice and can't see why Mvb should be ahead of him for replacing Carlo.

totally agree it is not that carlo is a crap coach but it seems that Milan need a total new approach

I agree with you on all your points that's why I said that the change has to happen, no matter who it is replacing Carlo.

I personally don't think Van Basten is a good option, he's just as stubborn and hard headed as Carlo is.

For me it would have to be between Rijkaard, Spalletti and Prandelli

Darmian's almost surely going on loan somewhere - latest rumor I heard was Cagliari.

Viudez and Cardacio are also probably being loaned, not sure where. Mattioni is probably going on loan to Udine.

What about Dida...

He has a 70% chance of staying, any talk on that issue?

Haven't heard a thing about Dida going somewhere, not recently.

New rumor not directly related to Milan:

According to this rather convoluted rumor, Genoa have made a deal with the cugini. Genoa get Acquafresca and money, the cugini get Milito and (maybe) Motta. Acquafresca isn't staying in Genoa though - he's going to be sent straight to Parma on loan. Parma need another young striker, so the rumor goes, because Albertino is returning to Milan.

Genoa got Floccari with the Cash and are said to OWN Bobbygoal

Don't actually mind that part of it, mtl. I rather like bobbygoal and would prefer it if he were de-cootified, which can happen if Genoa owns him outright.

Who on earth is Bobbygoal?

Also, I have to disagree with Mediaset's speculation regarding Becks. He'll never show his face on a pitch in L.A. again and the fans have also made it clear that he's not welcome back anytime soon.

As acid would say, Pun intended!


...where is acid these days?!

[...what she said] ^

It's a nickname for Roberto Acquafresca.

Sorry if I'm not up to speed on everybody's nicknames.

No, no... I was actually asking the same thing you did (just in a round about manner)
I wasn't sure who they were referring to when they said 'Bobbygoal'.

its calgriari Lingo

NICE!

I couldn't help but notice this part.



Talk about unbiased journalism.

what do you guys think about berlu selling Kaka for potential election money .

what do you guys think about berlu selling Kaka for potential election money .

...What?!