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Bluesummers
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Feb 23 2009, 12:01 PM) *
i really like him had he not been injured in first part of the season i think there would have been some serious interest in him from many clubs i think i will take canini over agger


i'm with you on that too. Canini would dominate on our team. Agger like senderos needs .5 season to adapt.
MizNelson
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Feb 22 2009, 10:20 PM) *
@miz: Problem with Dida is that he is stuck under carlo. You make one mistake and your done and unfortunately for him the celtic incident cost him the rest of his career.


But to be honest abbiati > dida.

dont hurt me... I love you miz wub.gif

I know. smile.gif

Anyhoo, I wasn't talking about our team; the "picking your team apart" post I made was in reply to Tennie saying "The big clubs are likely going to be picking over the Sardi [Cagliari] at the end of the season."
Habitant
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Feb 23 2009, 06:20 AM) *
@miz: Problem with Dida is that he is stuck under carlo. You make one mistake and your done and unfortunately for him the celtic incident cost him the rest of his career.


But to be honest abbiati > dida.

dont hurt me... I love you miz wub.gif

carlo gave him more than enough chances. it was 2 1/2 years of blunders and it was really time.

the only problem is we shoulda let him move a lil while ago when it was possible, i dont think it's fair for him to be glued to the bench although he does get the odd game now.
MizNelson
QUOTE (Habitant @ Feb 23 2009, 07:09 PM) *
carlo gave him more than enough chances. it was 2 1/2 years of blunders and it was really time.

the only problem is we shoulda let him move a lil while ago when it was possible, i dont think it's fair for him to be glued to the bench although he does get the odd game now.

I have to admit, I was surprised that Carlo gave the UEFA Cup reins to Dida, when he could've easily given them to Abi. I think Carlo still has a bit of a soft spot for him, due to his being a key member of our Golden Age this decade and his loyalty to Milan.

It bugs the hell out of me that some continue to insist that he's hanging around only because of his salary, while considering him to be greedy because he (allegedly) refused a buyout of his contract at the end of last season.
Jack Sparrow
What? Really? I was really impressed and considered it a sign of loyalty that he decided not to move and instead accepted the bench.
il_diavolo_mtl
The story of milan 08/09
If Ancelotti goes it's because he has (and this may come out weird, so bear with me...) Too Much loyalty towards HIS players (Kaladze, Ambrosini, favalli...)
Habitant
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Feb 24 2009, 04:45 AM) *
It bugs the hell out of me that some continue to insist that he's hanging around only because of his salary, while considering him to be greedy because he (allegedly) refused a buyout of his contract at the end of last season.

ya a buyout would probably be favorable from his prespective.

i'm not sure how much he would be compensated because it's probably stated in his conract but in hockey for example is the standard buyout states that the player receives 2/3 of his remaining salary, not bad considering because often times they go and sign with another team, albeit for a reduced salary but in the end most of them time they end up making more.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Habitant @ Feb 24 2009, 10:22 AM) *
ya a buyout would probably be favorable from his prespective.

i'm not sure how much he would be compensated because it's probably stated in his conract but in hockey for example is the standard buyout states that the player receives 2/3 of his remaining salary, not bad considering because often times they go and sign with another team, albeit for a reduced salary but in the end most of them time they end up making more.


He gets the entire package. in case of dida i'm guessing hes expirining in 2010 or 2011 and he makes approx 80-100k a week. He'll get about 5-8 million euros compinsation.
Bluesummers
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Real Madrid are prepared to listen to offers for a whopping 16 players in the summer, including club captain Raul.

According to Sport, Florentino Perez and his team have already outlined their transfer plan for next season, in the likely event of his regaining power at Real Madrid. Iker Casillas, Sergio Ramos, Pepe, Lassana Diarra and Ruud Van Nistelrooy are the only indispensable players.

While Raul is not on that list, it does not mean that Real Madrid are intent on offloading him. They will, however, listen to any lucrative offers, with various Premiership clubs thought to be interested.

Meanwhile, Cristiano Ronaldo and Kaka remain Perez's main objectives. His main dream would be to land Lionel Messi, but at the moment it does not appear to be a realistic possibility.

Finally, it has been learnt that Jorge Valdano would resume a key role at the club, while Zinedine Zidane would take up his preferred role as a coach of one of the youth teams.


Wow if they are serious than madrid is the team to raid in the summer!
dst
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Feb 24 2009, 06:47 PM) *
Wow if they are serious than madrid is the team to raid in the summer!

If they are serious then Madrid is the team to laugh at once again. But it's most probably bull.
Tennie
Where'd the article (english version) come from?

Sport.es is the CATALAN (ie pro-barca) paper/website, if memory serves. So..prolly not that reliable.
Zed.D
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Feb 24 2009, 08:17 PM) *
Wow if they are serious than madrid is the team to raid in the summer!


I know some will hate me for saying this, but if Marcelo is on the list, we should go for him. I'd rather we sell Mattioni and let Emerson go (maybe even loan Thiago so he gains some experience), but sign this kid. there aren't many potentially great left backs available and we are not well covered in that position (considering that Zambro plays in the right).

PS: don't bash me or argue that we should sign Italians. I'm just making a wish wink.gif (if it's allowed)
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 24 2009, 11:08 AM) *
I know some will hate me for saying this, but if Marcelo is on the list, we should go for him. I'd rather we sell Mattioni and let Emerson go (maybe even loan Thiago so he gains some experience), but sign this kid. there aren't many potentially great left backs available and we are not well covered in that position (considering that Zambro plays in the right).

PS: don't bash me or argue that we should sign Italians. I'm just making a wish wink.gif (if it's allowed)


hell yeah! I would sell darmian, mattioni, and albertazzi just to sign marcelo. Kid has got potential to be better than r.carlos.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 24 2009, 06:08 PM) *
PS: don't bash me or argue that we should sign Italians. I'm just making a wish wink.gif (if it's allowed)

I wouldn't allow it, but I'll agree this time. Marcelo isn't bad.

Gee, Madrid should hope this isn't true. If yes...well...just another example of brilliant management, nothing new.
dst
Marcelo is good but he's too young for Carletto.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 24 2009, 11:16 AM) *
Marcelo is good but he's too young for Carletto.


who says carletto is here next season. innocent.gif
dst
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Feb 24 2009, 07:15 PM) *
hell yeah! I would sell darmian, mattioni, and albertazzi just to sign marcelo. Kid has got potential to be better than r.carlos.

Would not say that. R. Carlos is the second best LB of all times. Marcelo will probably become a good player... how good, nobody knows.

QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Feb 24 2009, 07:18 PM) *
who says carletto is here next season. innocent.gif

Well yeah... there's a chance he won't though I think he will. Marcelo would cost a lot in any case and they'd ask for Kaka in exchange... though Kaka might leave for Madrid in the summer anyway so maybe a swap deal (plus big money from their side of course) would be possible.
Tennie
I'd say no to Marcelo. Not because he's Brazilian but because he's got Real cooties. smile.gif That and Milan have TWO young LBs.

If Madrid were talking about letting one of hteir good CBs go, it'd be a different story.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 24 2009, 11:28 AM) *
Well yeah... there's a chance he won't though I think he will. Marcelo would cost a lot in any case and they'd ask for Kaka in exchange... though Kaka might leave for Madrid in the summer anyway so maybe a swap deal (plus big money from their side of course) would be possible.


i hope your wrong about carlo and kaka to madrid.
Habitant
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Feb 24 2009, 04:47 PM) *
Wow if they are serious than madrid is the team to raid in the summer!

no robben on that list? huh.gif
Fillipo Simone
He's been more off then on field...
kurtsimonw
Lassana Diarra is now considered an indespensible player for a top team, what the hell? blink.gif
whoarethepatriots
Marcelo is too weak defensively to play as a LB. He would make a fine winger, but Carlo will eat cyanide before he changes his tactical system to accommodate a specific player
CrazyMilanFan
QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Feb 24 2009, 08:58 PM) *
Marcelo is too weak defensively to play as a LB. He would make a fine winger, but Carlo will eat cyanide before he changes his tactical system to accommodate a specific player

well we can get abate as the RW
Bluesummers
yup and in order to achieve that carlo has to be executed.
il_diavolo_mtl
QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Feb 24 2009, 03:58 PM) *
Marcelo is too weak defensively to play as a LB. He would make a fine winger, but Carlo will eat cyanide before he changes his tactical system to accommodate a specific player


LOL!
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Feb 24 2009, 06:22 PM) *
yup and in order to achieve that carlo has to be executed.

LOL!

so i'm getting a vibe that 2 CL is no longer a good thing on a managers CV?
Habitant
QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Feb 24 2009, 08:58 PM) *
Marcelo is too weak defensively to play as a LB. He would make a fine winger, but Carlo will eat cyanide before he changes his tactical system to accommodate a specific player

serginho was never good defensively either, and his natural postion was as a left winger. i dunno i'd take the risk on him if we could acquire him for a reasonable price.
Jack Sparrow
For Marcelo to play, our CBs needs to be that darn good, and so do our DMs.

Except for Rino neither Flamini nor Ambrosini fill me with complete confidence. In any case, I think they theory of the flying wingback needs some rethinking. It's getting a bit old now.
dst
QUOTE (Habitant @ Feb 25 2009, 05:32 AM) *
serginho was never good defensively either, and his natural postion was as a left winger. i dunno i'd take the risk on him if we could acquire him for a reasonable price.

Serginho was a Berlusconi favorite.

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 25 2009, 09:35 AM) *
Except for Rino neither Flamini nor Ambrosini fill me with complete confidence. In any case, I think they theory of the flying wingback needs some rethinking. It's getting a bit old now.

You have not see Flamini enough cool.gif and... it's your stupid brain that's getting old! Attacking full-backs rule the world, you've been watching a dated Zambrotta and a mediocre Jankulovski that's why you say that. One understands how important these players are when one watches Alves / Maicon play... overlapping ftw! cool.gif
Habitant
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 25 2009, 07:35 AM) *
For Marcelo to play, our CBs needs to be that darn good, and so do our DMs.

hopefully that will be delt with in the near future.

QUOTE (dst @ Feb 25 2009, 11:11 AM) *
Serginho was a Berlusconi favorite.

he was still very effective on the field as well, that is if ur implying the reason carlo played him cuz silvio liked him?
Jack Sparrow
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 25 2009, 04:41 PM) *
You have not see Flamini enough cool.gif and... it's your stupid brain that's getting old! Attacking full-backs rule the world, you've been watching a dated Zambrotta and a mediocre Jankulovski that's why you say that. One understands how important these players are when one watches Alves / Maicon play... overlapping ftw! cool.gif


Didn't like his work when he did play. He's got energy, but he will take some time to acclimatise. After that maybe...

I didn't say the attacking full-back is outdated. I just feel, depending on fullbacks as your sole source of width is bad. For Barca, you have Messi also on the right.

In our case, we don't have anyone who can give us width on our right besides Zambrotta.
dst
I don't think Carletto wants anyone on the side other than the fullbacks. That's what his choices show. He could have tried to play with Ronaldinho on the left and/or Kaka on the right, with Janku in midfield but Ancelotti does not want to play that way. He's playing Becks now but I'm convinced Becks was not his choice.
Jack Sparrow
But he wanted Ribery. I doubt he meant to play Ribery on the left as well. I really really want to see R80 on the right. For some wierd reason, I think R80 and Zambrotta on the right is better than Kaka and R80 on the right. wacko.gif
dst
Ribery is not a wide-man, he does reach the sideline but that's cause he's a free-roamer. I think Ronaldinho is great on the left and that's why I believe the KaPaRo could and should work with Kaka also on the right. And Pavlyuchenko upfront. Pato who?
Habitant
oops wrong thread
Jack Sparrow
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 26 2009, 12:17 AM) *
Ribery is not a wide-man, he does reach the sideline but that's cause he's a free-roamer. I think Ronaldinho is great on the left and that's why I believe the KaPaRo could and should work with Kaka also on the right. And Pavlyuchenko upfront. Pato who?


Zigic..Zigic!! Hasn't all my evangelising been to any effect! Pato who? ohmy.gif It was good knowing you...
Bluesummers
klass yun huuuntehlaaarrr
il_diavolo_mtl
Mario Balotelli in a milan jersey teamed with pato is my wet dream....
Bluesummers
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Feb 25 2009, 11:09 PM) *
Mario Balotelli in a milan jersey teamed with pato is my wet dream....


really? When theres so many better youth players lol.


bojan and pato is a dream.
LaPalma
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 25 2009, 07:41 PM) *
But he wanted Ribery. I doubt he meant to play Ribery on the left as well. I really really want to see R80 on the right. For some wierd reason, I think R80 and Zambrotta on the right is better than Kaka and R80 on the right. wacko.gif

But Ribery is at his best when he's played on the left flank. unsure.gif
Jack Sparrow
Well...thank you so much for crashlanding my flight of fancy...you German sack of sh....trawberries? (I wasn't gonna use that word, I love you too much!).

I guess then, that it was just a question of taking a player in his prime over one who would require work to fit in. Too bad he wasn't pretty enough for the management.

(P.S: Any comment about Kaladze's looks shall be responded to with another lingerie ad!)
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Feb 26 2009, 05:09 AM) *
Mario Balotelli in a milan jersey teamed with pato is my wet dream....

I'm not even going to make a joke, it's just too easy..
Tennie
Fishdoll awards 1 cookie to Kurt for his restraint. 96.gif
il_diavolo_mtl
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Feb 26 2009, 10:33 AM) *
really? When theres so many better youth players lol.


bojan and pato is a dream.

i think every member here can point out better players then what we field, but where i mention the name of a disgruntled Striker that will never see the field for his team and has BOATLOADS of potential, you throw out the name of a player that arguably will never leave Barca, for financial and because he is soulbound to them.

Balotteli (09-10) in milan is very possible saying as how they would want to offload a cancer on our side. But i have faith he wants to get back into the spotlight,his name has been tainted and i think guys with those types of egos/self respect don't enjoy being called a waste of talent.

Bojan is most likely a nono, unless glliani overpays in a BIG way


il_diavolo_mtl
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 26 2009, 02:02 PM) *
I'm not even going to make a joke, it's just too easy..

lol for the record it's not a jungle fever thing
whoarethepatriots
The day Internazionale's promising young Italian Forward Balotelli joins cross town rivals and hated enemies and all round antagonists AC Milan is the day hell freezes over

Also why would Bojan want to play for a lesser team when he plays regularly for League and CL contenders Barcelona
il_diavolo_mtl
QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Feb 26 2009, 06:29 PM) *
The day Internazionale's promising young Italian Forward Balotelli joins cross town rivals and hated enemies and all round antagonists AC Milan is the day hell freezes over

Also why would Bojan want to play for a lesser team when he plays regularly for League and CL contenders Barcelona

With al do respect, Supermario is a nuisance in that locker, mourinho doesn't like him. And they get into fights all the time, Mourinho wants a less loaded squad which means high payed players with little to no time are going out, balotteli hates playing behind 2 players just like him in Adria-hand-o and ibrahimo-not-sweedish.
Moratti is the type of guy to package a trojan horse, he will hope for our destruction in the lockrooms but he wil get burned by Patotelli!!!!
is it unlikely, yes, but fantastic none the less
whoarethepatriots
If Balotelli disrupts Inter's locker then why would Milan (club which prides itself on locker room harmony) risk having it destroyed by Balotelli

Moratti has let players go before but they were never really achieving much. Seedorf and Pirlo was floating around, Vieri and Favalli were past their peak and freebies. He would never have even thought about selling us Ibra or Julio Cesar. I dont see why he would throw away a talented and young forward to his greatest rivals
Bluesummers
my opinion, but i think balotelli will be leaving, but on loan to another club. Def not us. Morrati is not stupid.
il_diavolo_mtl
i love people who can look at
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is it unlikely, yes, but fantastic none the less
&
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Mario Balotelli in a milan jersey teamed with pato is my wet dream....
and read different words i said while it's not as much as a prayer as say Bojan, it is, and i want this to be read this time, VERY Unlikely, but still possible( more so then Bojan).
Please now enjoy twisting my words in an attempt to sound atop of the knowledge latter and criticize without suggesting anything, i really enjoy that in a poster smile.gif
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