Jack Sparrow
Aug 27 2009, 09:27 AM
8 M + wages. While then we'd have been saddled with Oddo + wages.
If the board has strictly adopted a pay only within what you earn or enforced a total salary cap within itself, then it makes sense Rafinha was not purchased.
It doesn't make sense to have a player who's not gonna play and still earn on the team in Oddo. He's just going to destroy morale. If he is gonna be on the payroll, might as well use him rather than another. Oddo can play against the lower clubs when we need. And he's kind of proven in the CL.
We can't offload him either since he refuses to go. It's not for a lack of trying.
dst
Aug 27 2009, 09:28 AM
I don't think it's politics, I believe Berlusconi just doesn't want to spend out of his own pocket anymore and the Fininvest members don't want Milan to be in debt anymore.
Jack Sparrow
Aug 27 2009, 09:31 AM
Yup.
I'm not saying one way or the other, just trying to explain the situation. But the only question is at what cost will this financial prudence come?
LaPalma
Aug 27 2009, 10:19 AM
Why is everyone going nuts about the Rafinha thing? First, the transfer hasn't been announced yet, and I can assure it isn't done yet. Plus, have you guys actually seen this guy playing? Well, I have and I can assure you that he hasn't improved since he joined Schalke some years ago and I don't think he will in the future.
Also, as this pic proves, he's a blistering idiot:
Tennie
Aug 27 2009, 11:04 AM
Fishdoll +1 cookie to LaPalma for amusing picture.
Tennie
Aug 27 2009, 11:51 AM
So, here's a quote from an interview of the Gobbi's Secco to calciomercato:
QUOTE
Il mercato sta per chiudersi, ma negli ultimi giorni sono molti i nomi accostati alla Juventus, soprattutto per quanto riguarda gli esterni difensivi. Si è parlato di un incontro che dovrebbe avvenire oggi a Montecarlo, dove si svolgeranno i sorteggi dei gironi della Champions League, tra i dirigenti bianconeri e il Lione per parlare di Fabio Grosso. Un appuntamento, tuttavia, non confermato dal direttore sportivo della Juventus Alessio Secco, intervistato in esclusiva da Calciomercato.it: «Sono a Montecarlo, ma su Grosso non ho nulla da dire». Smentita con decisione, invece, la pista Rafinha dello Schalke 04: «Non è un nostro obiettivo -le parole di Secco-, è extracomunitario e non abbiamo posti disponibili. A destra non prenderemo nessuno».
[The market's closing, but in the final days there have been a lot of names linked to Juventus, especially regarding LB/RB positions. There was talk of a meeting that was to take place to day in Monte Carlo, where people will attend the Champions League draw, between the bianconeri directors and Lyon to talk about Fabio Grosso. An appointment that's not confirmed by Juventus sporting director Alessio Secco, interviewed exclusively by calciomercato.it: 'I'm in Monte Carlo but I have nothing to say about Grosso.' A decisive denial about Schalke's Rafinha: 'He's not our objective and is non-EU and we don't have any available spots. We won't take anyone on the right.']
http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/24oredispor...idnotizia=16115
Dzeko
Aug 27 2009, 11:53 AM
Juventus Have Not Signed Rafinha - Alessio Secco
Following plenty of speculation in the Italian media, it appears Rafinha's move to Juventus never got off the ground...
Juventus transfer chief Alessio Secco has rubbished reports claiming the club had signed Brazilian defender Rafinha from German side Schalke.
On Wednesday night, reports emerging from Italy suggested the club had moved in for the right-back. Sky Sport Italia were convinced Rafinha had joined the Bianconeri for around €8 million.
However, those voices appear less than deft as one of the club's diginitaries denies the whole move.
"Rafinha? He is not our objective. He is a non-EU player and so we do not have any space for him in the team. We will not sign anyone for the right side [of the pich]," Secco told Calciomercato.it.
Juve have also been linked with Lyon defender Fabio Grosso. Noise coming from Turin this morning claimed a deal would be wrapped up tonight, but Secco was in no mood to confirm anything.
"I am in Monte Carlo, and I have nothing to say on Grosso," concluded the chief.
Salvatore Landolina, Goal.com
Jack Sparrow
Aug 27 2009, 01:09 PM
So that's that then....
Whoa..we blew our lids when we heard they'd signed Rafinha...
Protagonist
Aug 27 2009, 02:44 PM
Rafinha ?

Who ?!
Jack Sparrow
Aug 27 2009, 02:55 PM
He was Brazillian. So naturally 50% of us got a boner.
han2503
Aug 27 2009, 03:06 PM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 27 2009, 01:55 PM)

He was Brazillian. So naturally 50% of us got a boner.

You're the only perv here Jack, so don't try pinning your sick twisted thoughts and 'reactions' on us
sansiro1708
Aug 27 2009, 07:39 PM
4 days left ... time is running
Zed.D
Aug 27 2009, 07:44 PM
Doesn't matter. we're not gonna do anything so let it run out!
whoarethepatriots
Aug 27 2009, 08:51 PM
I agree with Zed, European clubs will not let their players go (with the exception of unwanted players) because there is not enough time to find a replacement. So even if (hypothetically) we wanted to sign someone, the potential selling club would not let player y go, unless we possibly offered someone in return
Either way the mercato is closed
il_diavolo_mtl
Aug 27 2009, 09:52 PM
wow kinda sad 325 pages later we don't spend over 15M for quality players
Tennie
Aug 27 2009, 09:54 PM
It's still not August 31, yet. Fishdoll remains (perhaps insanely) hopeful for some sort of good last-minute surprise purchase. (The dark side cookies Trini offered weren't quite up to snuff).
Bluesummers
Aug 27 2009, 09:56 PM
Well lets see:
Rafinha
Faubert
Adriano
are who are linked with.
We still have the Oddo problem. So nothing has changed since huntlaar was signed 2 weeks ago.
ganney
Aug 27 2009, 10:34 PM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 27 2009, 09:54 PM)

It's still not August 31, yet. Fishdoll remains (perhaps insanely) hopeful for some sort of good last-minute surprise purchase. (The dark side cookies Trini offered weren't quite up to snuff).
i always look out for those demonic and shocking aug31 transfers, don't think we will get anyone though... with the way things have gone, we could even be amongst those who make shock sales, hopefully not any of our key players.
i don't trust B&G anymore.......
il_diavolo_mtl
Aug 27 2009, 11:26 PM
Bergissio (somewone we were linked with) is heading to PSG for god knows has little a sum.......this hurts
il_diavolo_mtl
Aug 28 2009, 02:00 AM
QUOTE
Manchester United Staff Have Lost Confidence In Anderson - Report
It has been revealed that the midfielder does not figure in the good books of the Red Devils staff...
Manchester United midfielder Anderson is reportedly unhappy with his time with the Red Devils, and some of the staff are believed to have some reservations concerning the player.
According to a report in The Daily Mail, the 21-year-old was unhappy to be left out of the FA Community Shield clash against Chelsea at Wembley, which the Pensioners won 4-1 on penalties after a 2-2 draw in regular time. Due to the bench-warming session, the Brazilian has reportedly indicated that his future lies elsewhere.
It is believed that some of the club's staff have lost confidence in the youngster, who had a torrid time in the Champions League final against Barcelona and flopped again during the recent 1-0 loss to Burnley at Turf Moor.
However, with doubts over Owen Hargreaves' professional football career looming large, and the high-profile exits of Cristiano Ronaldo and Carlos Tevez in the summer, manager Sir Alex Ferguson is reportedly disinclined to let go of the player just yet.
Adithya Ananth, Goal.com
OK...
now i know berlu has samba-fever.
This would make great sense, shut up the upset fans, quickly add a Brazilian in a year we lost two (neverson and Ricky) Tell the fans how much he couldn't resist treating them, Get the Midfielder who can stretch the field and make Il_diavolo_mtl happy

Before people read too much into the "not ready to sell him just yet" That's general manager talk for "i'm accepting offers for him but if no one buys him i light a fire under his *** to give more to the team
kurtsimonw
Aug 28 2009, 03:22 AM
Anderson isn't good enough for the Championship, he shouldn't be anywhere near consideration for a team that has any aspirations to win anything at all. Awful, awful player.
il_diavolo_mtl
Aug 28 2009, 04:10 AM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 27 2009, 10:22 PM)

Anderson isn't good enough for the Championship, he shouldn't be anywhere near consideration for a team that has any aspirations to win anything at all. Awful, awful player.
Really? i mean, i'd be the first to admit i havn't seen much of him but the games i did see i'd have to say i was impressed, i mean that piece of skill against Gallas was very good and funny:)
You definitely watch more EPL then me so i'll take your word for it.
Obviously highlights are not a good way of evaluating players but based on this he would add pace to the midfield
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFg8yRLurgQEDIT: saw this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL9e6sj5JMkHAHA
il_diavolo_mtl
Aug 28 2009, 04:13 AM
Also, we are monitoring Adriano's Form (10 goals in 18 matches) and maybe pounce on him come january
QUOTE
Adriano Back In Europe In A Year's Time - Agent
The Brazilian is back to his best and could return to the Old Continent in 2010...
Gilmar Rinaldi, agent of Flamengo attacker Adriano, has spoken about his client's future following his recall to the Brazilian national team.
Rinaldi explained that Adriano, who left Inter earlier this year due to a series of personal problems, could very well return to Europe next summer.
The 27-year-old has scored 10 goals for Flamengo in the 18 games he has played for the Rio de Janeiro outfit.
"Adriano is recovering his physical condition and is happy because he solved his personal problems," affirmed the player's agent to Radio Radio TV.
"He wants to stay in Brazil until May, then we can evaluate his possible return [to Europe]."
Milan are rumoured to be interested in signing the former Inter player and will therefore keep an eye on the developments of this story in the coming months.
Glenn Debattista, Goal.com
il_diavolo_mtl
Aug 28 2009, 04:20 AM
Having never been as pretentious enough to post a 3rd post in a row i will make history with this little tidbit from Goal.com
QUOTE
Milan Step-Up Bid To Sign Schalke's Rafinha Or Sevilla's Adriano – Report
The Rossoneri are eager to sign a full-back before the end of the month...
Milan have lost the race to sign Lazio's Lorenzo De Silvestri, who is widely expected to sign for Fiorentina in the coming hours, but they are still on the hunt for a full-back, with Rafinha of Schalke and Adriano of Sevilla reportedly their primary targets.
Neither Marek Jankulovski nor Gianluca Zambrotta are deemed to be of sufficient calibre by the club's hierarchy, and Il Corriere dello Sport believes Rafinha and Adriano are now in the Rossoneri's sights.
However, Massimo Oddo still represents a problem for Leonardo's side - the former Lazio man needs to be sold before another full-back can be brought in. Oddo spent an unsuccessful season on loan with Bayern Munich last year, and he is refusing to go abroad on a temporary basis again.
Gianfranco Zola's West Ham United are thought to be interested in the 33-year-old, and this could be key for Milan.
The Rossoneri are now reportedly lining up a bid to bring Valon Behrami back to Italy, after the Swiss international left Lazio for the Hammers last summer. Milan vice president Adriano Galliani is also willing to take Julien Faubert in exchange from West Ham.
Anthony Wright, Goal.com
kurtsimonw
Aug 28 2009, 04:27 AM
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Aug 28 2009, 04:10 AM)

Really? i mean, i'd be the first to admit i havn't seen much of him but the games i did see i'd have to say i was impressed, i mean that piece of skill against Gallas was very good and funny:)
You definitely watch more EPL then me so i'll take your word for it.
He rarely plays, when he does is more often than not an embarassment. United 1-4 Liverpool and Burnley 1-0 United stand out, he was just awful in both. I think SAF has had enough of him. He and Nani are 2 of the worst transfers in EPL history. They make Sheva look great.
I was going a little over the top when I said he's not good enough for the Championship. He could maybe cut it at a very, very poor EPL tea, in a naff league, or in a decent Championship team. He looks lost against any half decent teams though. I would cry if we signed him.
Darunia
Aug 28 2009, 05:21 AM
Srna would be perfect at RB. He can get forward, and very versatile. Look for him tomorrow vs Barca. But yeah, he's out of Milan's price range
Warchant
Aug 28 2009, 05:34 AM
depressing
Bluesummers
Aug 28 2009, 09:31 AM

very depressing.
Bluesummers
Aug 28 2009, 09:42 AM
We signed a player, but not one you guys are going to like:
Milan took Verratti
28.08.2009 10.09 by Andrea Losap
AC Milan have been watching the performance of the young Marco Verratti, born in 1992, from Pescara. The player - who made his debut in Albinoleffe-Pescara last August - has been signed by AC Milan, however he will remain another year in Lega Pro, then will join the Rossoneri.
TMW
He's a Midfielder.
Full name: Marco Verratti
Birthday: 05/11/1992 (16)
Height/Weight: 165cm/60kg
He's probably going to our Primavera.
A video of him scoring a goal, 3:13
dst
Aug 28 2009, 10:22 AM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 28 2009, 05:22 AM)

Anderson isn't good enough for the Championship, he shouldn't be anywhere near consideration for a team that has any aspirations to win anything at all. Awful, awful player.
Yeah just like Alonso is ****. You boy are clueless.
I'm not saying Anderson is at the same level with Alonso of course but he's nowhere near as bad as you make him to be. The point is, you just should not talk about not regular midfielders.
Zed.D
Aug 28 2009, 10:25 AM
+1
han2503
Aug 28 2009, 10:31 AM
Bluesummers
Aug 28 2009, 11:37 AM
QUOTE
Zdravko Kuzmanovic Hands In Transfer Request At Fiorentina - Report
The departure of Zdravko Kuzmanovic from Fiorentina is drawing ever closer after the highly-rated Serbian handed in a transfer request to the club.
According to calciomercato.com, Kuzmanovic formally asked sporting director Pantaleo Corvino for a transfer after the match against Sporting CP.
The €8 million-rated midfielder has been uncertain of his future with the club ever since Cristiano Zanetti's arrival from Juventus. Stevan Jovetic, Kuzmanovic's close friend, attempted to convince him to stay with the Viola over dinner last night, but his mind is set.
The 21-year-old is thought to have spoken with former Viola defender Tomas Ujfalusi about a transfer to Atletico Madrid, while both Milan and Sevilla registered their interest in the former Basel midfielder earlier in the summer.
Kuzmanovic will not be playing in the colours of Lazio, however. It was thought that the Serbian would form a makeweight in a deal for Goran Pandev, but the striker's agent has dismissed the idea that his client will move to Fiorentina.
tennie's favorite website
OMG!!!! f*ck sakes Galliani pounce on this! This guys is one of the highest rated cm in our league. He is like hamsik! COMON G PLEASE SIGN HIM! GIVE THEM ODDO IN EXCHANGE+8m!!!!
Bluesummers
Aug 28 2009, 12:35 PM
QUOTE
OFFICIAL: "Real Madrid C.F. and F.C. Inter Milan have reached an agreement for the transfer of the player Wesley Sneijder to the Italian club,"
God has announced this today on the offical website

Its also reported that Robben and VDV are next to go as Real Madrid's new owner continues to set a path of revelation at the club.

but seriously, we are f*cked! Maybe not tomorrow, but next derby we are so f*cked!!!
Dzeko
Aug 28 2009, 12:44 PM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 28 2009, 01:35 PM)

God has announced this today on the offical website

Its also reported that Robben and VDV are next to go as Real Madrid's new owner continues to set a path of revelation at the club.

but seriously, we are f*cked! Maybe not tomorrow, but next derby we are so f*cked!!!
Um i think u are right really... We need a depth in the squad which we didn't have in the past 2-3 years, i think we need three more players RB, LB and AM
VDV will sign for Arsenal 100%
Bluesummers
Aug 28 2009, 12:46 PM
QUOTE (Dzeko @ Aug 28 2009, 05:44 AM)

Um i think u are right really... We need a depth in the squad which we didn't have in the past 2-3 years, i think we need three more players RB, LB and AM
VDV will sign for Arsenal 100%
Yup, we are done for in the long run unless January becomes a world class mercato for us, then maybe there is hope.
But on the VDV issue, i'm not sure. God has only reported he will leave the club, his destination is uknown. But i'm sure he knows where he'll eventually end up, hes just not saying
il_diavolo_mtl
Aug 28 2009, 02:33 PM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 28 2009, 04:42 AM)

We signed a player, but not one you guys are going to like:
Milan took Verratti
28.08.2009 10.09 by Andrea Losap
AC Milan have been watching the performance of the young Marco Verratti, born in 1992, from Pescara. The player - who made his debut in Albinoleffe-Pescara last August - has been signed by AC Milan, however he will remain another year in Lega Pro, then will join the Rossoneri.
TMW
He's a Midfielder.
Full name: Marco Verratti
Birthday: 05/11/1992 (16)
Height/Weight: 165cm/60kg
He's probably going to our Primavera.
A video of him scoring a goal, 3:13oh dear, granted he is one of my favorite Pescara players (born there) but never in a million years did i think he'd be a milan player
m1ke
Aug 28 2009, 02:47 PM
^^ I take it he's not very good then?
il_diavolo_mtl
Aug 28 2009, 08:12 PM
QUOTE (m1ke @ Aug 28 2009, 09:47 AM)

^^ I take it he's not very good then?

no i mean he's one of the star players but i guess i expected him to do well in serie B before being snatched by a Serie A team, let alone Milan!
Bluesummers
Aug 28 2009, 08:51 PM
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Aug 28 2009, 01:12 PM)

no i mean he's one of the star players but i guess i expected him to do well in serie B before being snatched by a Serie A team, let alone Milan!
yeah we watched him for 7 games. Then signed him. not really shocking to be honest, as Milan is going to be more italian based in the future and signing these players is the way to go.
I think we need more of these signings as they will help our club in all aspects. Whether we sell them and make money or we produce great italian internationals.
Now we have, Zigoni, Baretta, veratti. More youth signings will take place, i'm quite sure during the year this number will double.
Tennie
Aug 28 2009, 09:47 PM
If you look at the Milan transfer page on the lega calcio site (or have done so for the last couple of windows), you'll note that the vast majority of the club's signings have been kids. This year, 16 player contracts have been registered. Of that 16, 4 are 'senior team' (Silva, Onyewu, Huntelaar, Roma), 5 if you include Zigoni. I recall the last couple of windows having similar percentages.
link to Milan's transfer page on the Lega Calcio site.
EDIT: Note that this list does not include co-ownerships (ie the return of Abate and Di Gennaro)
Tennie
Aug 28 2009, 09:55 PM
QUOTE
L'A.C. Milan comunica di aver risolto consensualmente il rapporto di lavoro con i calciatori Mathias Cardacio e Tabarè Viudez. Nel ringraziarli per quanto hanno dimostrato nel corso della loro esperienza in rossonero, il Milan formula ai due giovani calciatori i migliori auguri per il loro futuro.
(from acmilan.com)
They're saying thankyou and goodbye to Cardacio and Viudez. Not even loaning them out, just cutting them loose. That surprises me a bit.
EDIT: It occurs to me that Viudez held a non-EU spot which could now possibly be filled by someone else -- am I counting the non-EU registration thing correctly? Anyone know?
han2503
Aug 28 2009, 09:58 PM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 28 2009, 09:55 PM)

(from acmilan.com)
They're saying thankyou and goodbye to Cardacio and Viudez. Not even loaning them out, just cutting them loose. That surprises me a bit.
BS decison on Milan's part, both had the potential imo. They say we're looking towards the future and we're looking at young players then they go do something like this.
And it doesn't matter that they're buying practially every youngster from Serie B I'm 100% sure that not even one of them will ever come close to being a first team regular
Darunia
Aug 28 2009, 10:16 PM
Cardacio looked pretty good, sad to see this
il_diavolo_mtl
Aug 28 2009, 10:22 PM
QUOTE (Darunia @ Aug 28 2009, 05:16 PM)

Cardacio looked pretty good, sad to see this

so there Free agents?
han2503
Aug 28 2009, 10:23 PM
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Aug 28 2009, 10:22 PM)

so there Free agents?
Yep
After the summer ends we'll barely have a bench, nice going Fester!!
Zed.D
Aug 28 2009, 10:35 PM
Seriously, we practically have no bench! I'm surprised and saddened to see them go. why the **** did the management bring them in the first place? to waste a non-eu spot on Viudez so we'd have to wait a season to see Silva play? sometimes I wonder if this club is run by a bunch of idiots...
il_diavolo_mtl
Aug 28 2009, 10:41 PM
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Aug 28 2009, 05:35 PM)

Seriously, we practically have no bench! I'm surprised and saddened to see them go. why the **** did the management bring them in the first place? to waste a non-eu spot on Viudez so we'd have to wait a season to see Silva play? sometimes I wonder if this club is run by a bunch of idiots...
i'm past the state of wondering
Tennie
Aug 28 2009, 10:50 PM
Hah. You beat Fishdoll to it, mtl!
chiu09
Aug 28 2009, 10:53 PM
i just hope G bring us a good Full back, someone like Taye Taiwo that would be amaZINGGGG
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