Hamsik for Borriello would be too good to be true!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Marek Hamsik is versatile, sublimely skilled/adept passer utility midfielder than can slot in anywhere in the midfield. He has the physical characteristics to be a ball-winner, with the ability to pass and create from deep in the midfield. If Hamsik were on our team, we could slot him in next to pirlo, and he could do a box to box job for us - goodbye seedorf (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) .

i like borriello and his characteristics. the only reason i would consider allowing him to leave is because demba ba and edin dzeko are excellent strikers in the same mold - true modern strikers with the tall, physical imposing frames (like borriello) but both have a classy touch on the ball. Dzeko would be the more dangerous finisher in the area, while Demba Ba is a hounding, charismatic leader of the front line with endless energy, more foot skill (than ade/dzeko), ball winning capability, and tactical awareness on the front line. Both are more than capable of replacing Borriello and will end up at big clubs very soon...and i would much rather have either of these two partner pato than adebayor. They both have higher potential than Borri or Ade.

Dzeko has JUST said in the press that he is aware of the interest from chelsea, however says he would rather play for either AC Milan or Juve. It sounds like he knows he'll be moving, and would rather play for clubs that he likes rather than sell his soul and move to chelsea. I say we sign him regardless, as it was a signing like this that we should have made last season instead of dinho.

i don't dislike borri, and think he could be a fine player for us. But i think Dzeko's and Ba's ceilings are higher, and if we could get hamsik for Borri, and pick up one of those two, we'd be better for it.

I am convinced that if our team made these moves, in addition to another young CB - Santacrocce, Kjaer, etc, we would have much better balance in the team in terms of age, wouldn't experience any drastic drop in quality, and increase the potential upside of the team.

Dinho provides a team chemistry/team selection headache for any manager of our club. I would rather have a player like yoann come in, play with heart and effort, and gradually improve than see an uninspiring dinho come on and perform half of the stuff he should be able to do due to his laziness while getting paid far more than he should be paid.


Hamsik, gourcuff, dzeko/demba ba in.

Seedorf, Borriello, Dinho out.

Fishdoll mostly agrees with you, vnata. Still not entirely sold on Saint Yoann but am willing to wait and see. Would prefer him - even with my doubts - over Ronaldinho.

This side would have physical strength, technical ability, and pace. and believe me, when coming up against the strength of chelsea, the technical class of barca, or the strength/technical class of manchester/liverpool, you need all three to beat them. cuz lets be real, these are the best 3 clubs in the world, with inter/arsenal lagging behind them, but in front of us as our direct competition for the European title. This starting 11 would make us as good as any of them.

Dida/Abbiati (New young keeper would be nice)

Flamini - Thiago - Nesta - Srna/Zambro

Hamsik Pirlo Gattuso

Kaka

Pato Dzeko/Ba

DEF: Kjaer, Kaladze, Ambro, Gourcuff, Pippo

now that's a team primed with a good balance of youthful energy, championship experience, and the quality necessary to make an assault on the european competition

This post has been edited by vnata001: May 20 2009, 12:34 AM

(In case people aren't religiously reading the training reports in match threads, NESTA is going into his second week of training with the team, btw. Fishdoll is a little afraid he'll play this weekend or next. He likes Nesta, but he's embarrassed when I squeal on seeing Nesta. Thinks it's undignified.)

Kjaer is a player I like. Would prefer Santacroce but, well, we'll see.

I'd love to see this but it would only make sense if we got rid of Ronaldinho and/or Beckham ('and' if we also bring back Gourcuff) which is not going to happen. Also, we are looking to buy a forward and unless we have secured a signature I can't see anyone from the front line leaving.

Borriello leaving Milan yet again would be funny... for me, not him! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

(IMG:http://www.soccerpulse.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/eyepopping.gif) I'm all for it! in fact, I would be content with either him or Yoann. I think they're both very good, but maybe Hamsik is less of a risk considering he is proven in Serie A, and he is more versatile. Yoann may come back and find it hark to adapt/get along with Carlo again.

Here's a list of the squad from Mediaset, along with Mediaset's guess on the percentage chance of their remaining and a possible destination if they do leave.

Abbiati P 100% -
Dida P 70% Premier
Kalac P 50% Non ha offerte
Mattioni D 10% Udinese
Maldini D 0% Fine carriera
Kaladze D 80% -
Nesta D 100% -
Zambrotta D 100% -
Jankulovski D 100% -
Favalli D 50% Possibile ritiro
Senderos D 70% Aston Villa
Bonera D 100% -
Darmian D 10% Prestito
Antonini D 100%
Gattuso C 100% -
Cardacio C 20% -
Pirlo C 100% -
Ambrosini C 90% Non ha offerte
Beckham C 50% LA Galaxy
Flamini C 100% -
Seedorf C 70% Chelsea
Inzaghi A 100% -
Pato A 100% -
Borriello A 90% Napoli
Viudez A 0% Non ha offerte
Kakà A 100% -
Shevchenko A 30% Chelsea
Ronaldinho A 100% -
Ancelotti AL 30% Chelsea

I'll say those percentages are about accurate. Except I think Ambrosini should be a 100%, and Dinho a little less.

Hamsik would probably be our 3rd most attacking midfielder behind Kaka and Ronnie(who is leaving to city this summer). So From a Rijkaard prospective, he would be a great buy. Besides, Donadoni has repeatedly said he would want Boriello next summer. Either Napoli or we can use him to get thiago motta from genoa. With genoa probably selling milito to inter for over 20+M they would want a forward they know can play the system (boriello's loan spell with genoa proved such). So one would have to think of which player would suit the Barca-style midfield. I don't know if alot of our mids are as attacking as Rijkaard would like too, so one could maybe expect a clusterf*** of transfers.





+1 000 000 000 000 000 VNATA!!!!!

i have been saying demba ba's name since december and also beleive with the current recession, we will be forced to look at bundesliga players (Ba/Dzeko/Novakovic) for a lesser price. Demba is what borriello aspires to!

No way Dida's going to the Premier League, especially this late in his career, and he should finish out the last year of his deal over here. I can't see Seedorf going to Chelsea in a million years, either, as well as Sheva, because they've said they don't want him back.

I don't rate Demba Ba that high. But Wolfsburg is a rather good destination to shop. So is HSV and BVB. Bundesliga could provide us with a few not-so-expensive players, just like France and Holland. We should keep an eye on Bayern as well, maybe Lahm or Schwein will be on the market. As for Srna...best croatian player avaible. Emense talent, very consistent and hard-working. Just what we need for a more offensive and dangerous RB or RM.

Srna was great whenever I watched him play but we need a LB more than we need a RB in my opinion.

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