Tennie
Aug 3 2009, 12:23 AM
[Fishdoll notes to trini that the cookie meter and award table depends entirely on Fishdoll's mood at the time. You're likely to get more cookies if you amuse him.]
TriniKing_CE
Aug 3 2009, 12:25 AM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 2 2009, 07:15 PM)

We can't rely on Seedorf, even more pushing him in a position that I'm sure he wouldn't want to play in.
Its time to face the music the old Milan #1 midfield in the world thing is over, Kaka is gone, Pirlo has gone with him, Seedorf is not starting material anymore and needs to take a back seat, Rino is not the all dominating midfielder he was either, age catches up to everybody and our management must face that. That was our diamond midfield from just 3 years ago, the midfield that people on general football forums dicussed at length whether it was the best in the world compared to that of Barca.
In all honesty from our current crop of midfielders only Flamini, Pirlo and Rino would make the cut for the first 11. We already needed another midfielder without concidering Pirlo leaving, but now that its looking more likely that he will leave, we would need 2 midfielders, someone to replace Seedorf, someone to replace Pirlo. And getting 2 midfielder when they even struggling to get the forward is something that I cannot see happening anytime soon.
+1: Good Post
We are forgetting Kaka - our most influential player has also left and is yet to be replaced.
I was all for clearing out Milan, but not on the terms which it was done.
We gave away some who we needed & could have used and have kept the unecessary & useless. - Brilliant!
It just has to get better (it's been said before) but FFS - anyone worse can we even be considered a '
big' team anymore?
TriniKing_CE
Aug 3 2009, 12:29 AM
Tennie
Aug 3 2009, 12:35 AM
[Fishdoll +1 trip to the Piranha Tank for Trini. Jack needs company.

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Fishdoll agrees in general with han's post. That said, Fishdoll also has high hopes for Abate, though still not sure where exactly he'd fit in.
han2503
Aug 3 2009, 12:37 AM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 3 2009, 12:35 AM)

[Fishdoll +1 trip to the Piranha Tank for Trini. Jack needs company.

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Fishdoll agrees in general with han's post. That said, Fishdoll also has high hopes for Abate, though still not sure where exactly he'd fit in.
I didn't include Abate because if we're really going for 4-3-3 I'm placing him with the forwards in my mind.
The way I see it, our midfielders are
Gattuso
Pirlo
Seedorf
Flamini
Ambrosini
Cardacio
Those are the midfielders that can realistically play the flat 3 at the middle of the pitch
Bluesummers
Aug 3 2009, 12:52 AM
QUOTE (Dzeko @ Aug 2 2009, 04:11 PM)

Yes there is clause 20 Mil €, and i know that Dzeko signed the first option Deal with Brada and Galliani so that's mean he can onlly come to Milan this year...
just like i said. What you guys don't believe me

?
JimboMilano
Aug 3 2009, 02:10 AM
Wait are you guys trying to say that we will sign
Dzeko this summer and not in January or next summer? This Dzeko thing and this clause confuses me a little bit. I would love for him to join us this summer. I actually like him more then Huntelaar or Fabiano
JimboMilano
Aug 3 2009, 02:17 AM
Milan juggle Pizarro and Huntelaar
Sunday 2 August, 2009
While Milan await news of Claudio Pizarro’s exchange with Andrea Pirlo, they are reportedly closing on Klaas Jan Huntelaar.
The Rossoneri rejected the first offer of £7m plus Pizarro to bring Pirlo to Chelsea, but are ready to consider an improved bid.
It was suggested this morning in both countries that they would accept if the cash sum was raised to £10m, but there are differing reports in England.
The Mail on Sunday claims Milan will only give the all-clear if Pizarro is part of the exchange and the delay is down to waiting for the striker to decide on this move.
In Italy the newspapers all believe Pizarro is a hindrance rather than a help, as Milan would prefer the entire sum in cash so they can go after their real targets.
That would be Real Madrid hitman Huntelaar, who rejected a loan move to San Siro earlier this summer and then saw a permanent switch to Stuttgart collapse.
According to Spanish newspaper Marca, Real are now prepared to release Huntelaar to Milan for around £9m.
It is considerably less than the £18m requested by Sevilla for Brazil striker Luis Fabiano.
Milan need to bring in fresh faces after a disastrous pre-season set of results and they resume those friendlies on August 8 against Benfica.
That is followed by the Trofeo TIM with Inter and Juventus on August 14, then going head-to-head with Juventus for the Trofeo Berlusconi on August 17 and Kaka’s Real Madrid on August 25.
Tennie
Aug 3 2009, 02:39 AM
The way I understand it, Jimbo, Milan can buy out Dzeko's contract not now but maybe in January and definitely next summer.
JimboMilano
Aug 3 2009, 03:20 AM
Oh ok, because I got a little confuse for a moment.
Thanks for clearing that out for me.
TriniKing_CE
Aug 3 2009, 04:48 AM
*Fingers Crossed*
Please let someone worth while arrive at Milan this week!
sansiro1708
Aug 3 2009, 05:40 AM
lots of teams are not buying players cuz they are just waiting till the last week of the transfer market. they are stalling and making real madrid desperate . madrid cant handle having to pay all those salaries. transfers market's last week is going to be insane. i think galliani is just waiting for that to happen .
Bluesummers
Aug 3 2009, 08:17 AM
QUOTE
Milan Send Bronzetti To Sevilla For ‘Final Assault’ On Luis Fabiano - Report
AC Milan have reignited their chase for Sevilla hot-shot, Luis Fabiano over the past few days and it has now been reported that they are ready to finally make an improved bid.
According to the Il Sussidiario website, the Rossoneri have sent FIFA agent, Ernesto Bronzetti to Seville to make one final assault for the Brazilian striker. It is believed that the Serie A giants will increase their initial offer of €14 million to €18 million plus incentives, but it is unlikely that they will meet Sevilla’s €20 million price tag.
Il Diavolo have also instructed another official FIFA negotiator, Peppino Tirri, to head to London to begin talks with the executives of the Rio Group, the company who owns 65% of the player’s rights.
Just a few weeks ago, Sevilla, Milan and Fabiano’s agent had declared that all discussions regarding the striker’s transfer to the San Siro had been dead and buried. But the player’s representative’s recent comments that the Nervionense outfit intend to sell the 28-year-old in order to cash in on him during this summer trade period has re-opened to door for Milan.
haha f*ckn G!

He's confused the press. Now its a guessing game with three options. Is huntelaar or fabiano our target with one being the smokescreen or are they both smokescreens and tools used to waste time.

Gotta love it, 23 years of exp and this is what we get
Bluesummers
Aug 3 2009, 08:40 AM
QUOTE
It seems the future of Milan's transfer dealings all hang on the choices of Claudio Pizarro, as the 31-year-old Peruvian weighs up his options for next season.
According to Tuttosport, Rossoneri vice president Adriano Galliani is working hard to secure a deal on two fronts as Milan look to gain a good price for Andrea Pirlo and at the same time reopen negotiations for Sevilla’s Luis Fabiano. Meanwhile, Pizarro has been tipped to move to the San Siro as part of the Pirlo to Chelsea deal.
With coach Leonardo's heart set on bringing in the Brazilian to spearhead the Milan front line next season, it seems unlikely that the Rossoneri will want to acquire Pizarro on a permanent basis. Therefore, Galliani is hoping to use the Peruvian as a bargaining chip for Luis Fabiano.
As this recent summer saga begins to unfold into the most complex of transfer triangles, it could be some time before Milan know for certain who will lead their attack next season.

The press have lost their mind HAHAHA! Well done G, confuse em and then sign some random 33 year old haha and call it a day.
ganney
Aug 3 2009, 08:53 AM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 3 2009, 12:37 AM)

I didn't include Abate because if we're really going for 4-3-3 I'm placing him with the forwards in my mind.
The way I see it, our midfielders are
Gattuso
Pirlo
Seedorf
Flamini
Ambrosini
Cardacio
Those are the midfielders that can realistically play the flat 3 at the middle of the pitch
i'm really hoping for the best this week.
huntelaar- madrid's brought down the price& given us dibs, we oughta just sort out our priorities and go for this guy
hernanes- price is good, i fancy him playing box-box with flamini& rino giving cover+ he's always a ball winner& can construct as well as finish moves
with these we'll be good
Bluesummers
Aug 3 2009, 09:07 AM
QUOTE
Manchester City's Wage Bill Tops £100m - Report
Reports from the UK state that Manchester City's newest arrivals have pushed the club's wage bill past £100 million per year.
This summer alone, the Citizens have signed Emmanuel Adebayor, Carlos Tevez (both on £150,000 per week), Kolo Toure and Gareth Barry (both on £120,000).
Add that to the £160,000 that Robinho rakes in every week, and you have what the News of the World claims are record-breaking salary figures.
If the tabloid's calculations are correct, then that means City have doubled their wage bill in the space of two years. It also means that the club's expenditure on pay cheques is greater than their yearly income of £90m.
City's Arab owners, Abu Dhabi United Group, have put almost £1 billion into the club since buying out Thaksin Shinawatra last year.
wow, how I envy them. 1 billion in a year, berlu hasn't put that much in our club in 23 years.
Bluesummers
Aug 3 2009, 09:33 AM
QUOTE
After the club's defeat in the Peace Cup final against Aston Villa, the David Trezeguet admitted that he could not turn his back on Juventus ahead of a promising season.
"I will remain 100 per cent with Juventus for the whole season," he told the club's official website.
"After nearly ten years in Turin, it did not seem right to me to go just now. I was helped to make this decision by everyone who has been close to me recently: the management; the coach; my team-mates; and the fans."
Ciro Ferrara explained that the decision came in the wake of the Bianconeri's defeat last night.
"I am happy for David, as at the end of the game he wanted to talk to me and the team, announcing that he intends to stay with us," the manager revealed.
An injury had ruled Trezeguet out for much of last season and he was unable to replicate his previous form in the Bianconeri shirt, but is hoping for a trouble-free season next year under Ferrara.
The 31-year-old striker had been strongly linked with a transfer away from the club this summer, most notably to Milan.
cross him off the list.
Ry4n
Aug 3 2009, 11:50 AM
i can't remember a transfer window being this much of a merry go round !!
Bluesummers
Aug 3 2009, 12:37 PM
QUOTE
Milan have turned their attention to Roma striker Julio Baptista, who they see as an alternative to Sevilla's Luis Fabiano.
The Rossoneri's striker search is still ongoing. Reports in Italy and Spain claim Ernesto Bronzetti has been sent to Seville for one final attempt at the 2009 Confederations Cup top scorer. However, if that fails, Baptista will be the next target.
Il Corriere Dello Sport claims the former Real Madrid man is being targeted by Milan. The San Siro-based giants have already made contact over his availability, but no official offer has been made.
'The Beast' represents a more affordable option for Milan than Luis Fabiano, with voices around Trigoria claiming that he could join them for around €9 million, which is around half of what Sevilla are asking for Fabiano. However, Baptista has claimed he is in no mood to leave Roma, a statement backed up by his agent on Saturday.
On the other hand, the capital club are willing to cash in on him and are open to offers. As part of a possible deal, Milan will offer money plus the services of highly-rated midfielder Ignazio Abate.
Sometimes I wonder If i should even bother....
Bluesummers
Aug 3 2009, 12:39 PM
QUOTE
Milan ace Andrea Pirlo is in no mood to answer questions surrounding his Chelsea-linked future.
The Italian midfielder is being chased by former Milan coach Carlo Ancelotti. Reports suggest an offer from the Blues was made, but rejected.
Ancelotti revealed on Saturday that his pursuit for the midfielder is yet to make further ground, and Pirlo's silence appears to back that claim.
"Chelsea? I have nothing to say. I will speak further down the line," Pirlo told Il Corriere Dello Sport.
Just 48 hours earlier, Ancelotti said, "At the moment Pirlo is a Milan player and so there is no news."
Fresh reports in England this morning claim Chelsea have €117million to spend on luring Atletico Madrid's Sergio Aguero, Bayern Munich's Franck Ribery, and Pirlo.
Earlier voices suggested Milan rebuffed Chelsea's initial €8m plus Claudio Pizarro bid.
no denial? I guess we can conclude that negotations are indeed taking place 100%
Bluesummers
Aug 3 2009, 12:42 PM
QUOTE
Don’t Write Milan Out Of The Scudetto Race - Fedele Confalonieri
Silvio Berlusconi's right-hand man, Fedele Confalonieri, believes the Milan squad is good enough to challenge for major honours, despite a lamentable pre-season.
Confalonieri, who is chairman of Mediaset - the company owned and controlled by Berlusconi - feels the Rossoneri are in good shape for a decent campaign. The Italian dignitary is confident Adriano Galliani and Berlusconi will steer the club in the right direction, despite a storm of criticism regarding the club's transfer strategies this summer.
"Milan are not to be thrown away," Confalonieri told Il Corriere Della Sera.
"Berlusconi and Galliani are not out of their heads. They deserve respect and trust. They have given much to Italian football."
The media mogul couldn't help but take a swipe at bitter city rivals Inter, and he has defended the sale of Kaka.
"We have more money compared to Inter and we have more desire to spend. Of their four Scudetti, two of them were gifted," added Confalonieri.
"Kaka? He is a great player. He likes [money] and he has gone to Madrid to get more of it. Kaka is no saint, and Berlusconi is no monster."
just wow...

When you thought it couldn't get any better this comes out
absoloute class berlu, worldclass
Tennie
Aug 3 2009, 12:44 PM
If one were to look for the source of some of the stories reported with varying accuracy on the website I refuse to visit, one would find that the Fabiano story comes from the Turin paper (Juve's pet paper) and the Baptista story comes from the Rome paper (Roma's pet paper). Therefore, one might conclude that neither is particularly reliable or useful.
Bluesummers
Aug 3 2009, 12:45 PM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 3 2009, 05:44 AM)

If one were to look for the source of some of the stories reported with varying accuracy on the website I refuse to visit, one would find that the Fabiano story comes from the Turin paper (Juve's pet paper) and the Baptista story comes from the Rome paper (Roma's pet paper). Therefore, one might conclude that neither is particularly reliable or useful.
hence, my comment. But whatever news is news and as long as people visit this forum, I will do my best to provide every bit of it as possible with no filter. Let the people decide what is legit and what is not. Power to the people
Bluesummers
Aug 3 2009, 12:49 PM
Update: Liversh*t agree fee with madrid for xabi alonso. 32 million. It should be concluded by wed
Tennie
Aug 3 2009, 12:49 PM
To each his own.

Fishdoll finds it counterproductive to produce stuff from one unreliable website that's poorly translated from another unreliable website. Misinformation is, well, not all that good.
Bluesummers
Aug 3 2009, 12:51 PM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 3 2009, 05:49 AM)

To each his own.

Fishdoll finds it counterproductive to produce stuff from one unreliable website that's poorly translated from another unreliable website. Misinformation is, well, not all that good.
I see it as "double productive"

Because it gives power to the reader to use his or her analytical skills to make their own opinion rather than accept one from a filtered source.
Tennie
Aug 3 2009, 12:57 PM
True enough, but you don't do that yourself.

Unless, that is, you actually do think goal.com and Tuttosport are reliable. If that's the case, then, well, Fishdoll thinks you're badly misinformed.
Fishdoll doesn't feel the need to blindly post every single bit of news related to Milan without any indication of its reliability. He also doesn't particularly CARE whether or not he (or his person) are seen as the news experts. He and his person feel themselves relatively well informed from the sources they use (which do not include goal.com, tuttosport, or corriere): Mediaset, milannews, gazzetta, etc.
And one bit of news that's
reliable: Rino is quoted in today's Gazzetta as saying that he's sure there will be reinforcements and that he quite likes Huntelaar.
Zed.D
Aug 3 2009, 01:25 PM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 3 2009, 03:19 PM)

Update: Liversh*t agree fee with madrid for xabi alonso. 32 million. It should be concluded by wed
Now that's getting scary...
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Aug 3 2009, 03:25 PM)

Now that's getting scary...

Nah, they need a Mascherano not an Alosno though it still is a great signing. Since you follow RM, do you know what's happened to Mahamadou Diarra? I remember he got injured but what now, is he finished or something? Also, has Kaka played for them yet?
mkenya
Aug 3 2009, 01:58 PM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 3 2009, 12:57 PM)

True enough, but you don't do that yourself.

Unless, that is, you actually do think goal.com and Tuttosport are reliable. If that's the case, then, well, Fishdoll thinks you're badly misinformed.
Fishdoll doesn't feel the need to blindly post every single bit of news related to Milan without any indication of its reliability. He also doesn't particularly CARE whether or not he (or his person) are seen as the news experts. He and his person feel themselves relatively well informed from the sources they use (which do not include goal.com, tuttosport, or corriere): Mediaset, milannews, gazzetta, etc.
And one bit of news that's
reliable: Rino is quoted in today's Gazzetta as saying that he's sure there will be reinforcements and that he quite likes Huntelaar.
Completely agree with fishdoll!! No point in feeding people with unreliable information...
TriniKing_CE
Aug 3 2009, 02:26 PM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 3 2009, 07:37 AM)

Sometimes I wonder If i should even bother....

Yea don't worry we appreciate you posting the transfer news (good & the bad).
It keeps us informed with our supposed targets and what BS the media (and our Management) says next.
Tennie
Aug 3 2009, 02:54 PM
Telelombardia is reporting that Milan are close to finalizing a deal for Huntelaar.
TriniKing_CE
Aug 3 2009, 02:56 PM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 3 2009, 09:54 AM)

Telelombardia is reporting that Milan are close to finalizing a deal for Huntelaar.
Sounds good.
But Who (which paper is this)?
Tennie
Aug 3 2009, 02:58 PM
Telelombardia is a Milan-based tv/radio/internet network. They generally have fairly reliable news on Milan.
JimboMilano
Aug 3 2009, 03:00 PM
Great to hear that.
I just hope this week we will at least someone good
QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 3 2009, 04:54 PM)

Telelombardia is reporting that Milan are close to finalizing a deal for Huntelaar.
We should not get too excited if it's announced on the official site though... let's give it some time...
TriniKing_CE
Aug 3 2009, 03:24 PM
Ha - for real!
Quite sad really!
JimboMilano
Aug 3 2009, 03:28 PM
It is also reported that we are linked with Diarra and Drenthe
Tennie
Aug 3 2009, 03:35 PM
reported by whom and where?
JimboMilano
Aug 3 2009, 03:46 PM
Just read both reports on MilanNews
Tennie
Aug 3 2009, 03:52 PM
Thanks, Jimbo.

Fishdoll +1 cookie because he finds it extra helpful to know where the news items are coming from (ie, it's nice when sources are cited and/or links are provided).
TriniKing_CE
Aug 3 2009, 04:14 PM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 3 2009, 10:52 AM)

it extra helpful to know where the news items are coming from (ie, it's nice when sources are cited and/or links are provided).
Agreed...
Lets try to remember to post the links or at least mention the source of the news that we post.
Zed.D
Aug 3 2009, 05:54 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Aug 3 2009, 05:47 PM)

We should not get too excited if it's announced on the official site though... let's give it some time...

What? you fear of another Cissokho/Suazo case?
TriniKing_CE
Aug 3 2009, 05:58 PM
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Aug 3 2009, 12:54 PM)

What? you fear of another Cissokho/Suazo case?
G.Rossi...
Zed.D
Aug 3 2009, 06:05 PM
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Aug 3 2009, 08:28 PM)

G.Rossi...

Ah.. I'd forgotten about that one. Suazo/Cissokho/G.Rossi... all of them were announced as Milan players on acmilan.com one way or the other. we suck!!
Tennie
Aug 3 2009, 06:18 PM
For what it's worth (and I'm not sure how reliable it is) apparently Genoa are interested in buying Dida -- at least according to tuttomercatoweb.
JimboMilano
Aug 3 2009, 06:19 PM
New Updates on MilanNews
- The new hypothesis: EbouéEboue to Milan and Di Silvestri to Fiorentina
-Milan is at home now after the transfer of certain Pirlo is beginning to look for a substitute, the name that has been repeatedly approached to the company rossonera is to Hernanes from St. Paul. The official Fifa and great expert on the Brazilian market Mariano Grimaldi expresses his opinion on the feasibility or otherwise of the treaty. These are his words: "Hernanes to Milan? I do not think it will be for the technical characteristics of the player and for an economic issue. Beyond what is written I know that St. Paul does not want to fall below 20 million and I do not think that Milan can spend so much. "
Interesting turn of things now. I wish i could read Galliani's mind loool
JimboMilano
Aug 3 2009, 06:25 PM
Aquilani signs for Liverpool?
Monday 3 August, 2009
The Spanish Press claims Liverpool have signed Roma midfielder Alberto Aquilani as they anticipate Xabi Alonso to join Real Madrid.
Madrid based daily newspaper Marca understands Roma have accepted a £15m offer for the 26-year-old Italy international.
Sky Sport Italia also believe Aquilani has put pen to paper on a four-year deal worth around £3.5m a season.
Roma have intimated their willingness to sell Aquilani on several occasions this summer.
Last month Luciano Spalletti said the club would listen to offers that suited the player and the team.
Aquilani has struggled with his fitness in recent years. He only made 14 appearances in Serie A last season.
Source: Football-Italia.net
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I guess we can cross out Aquilani if the rumors are true
Bluesummers
Aug 3 2009, 08:22 PM
QUOTE
Real Madrid Striker Huntelaar On Verge Of Joining Milan - Report
AC Milan fans may finally get some of the reinforcements they have been asking for, as unsettled Real Madrid striker Klaas-Jan Huntelaar is close to joining the club, according to Sportbox.ru.
On Sunday, it emerged that the Spanish giants were ready to give the Italian preferential treatment regarding the Dutch player and it appears that is indeed the case as the club's have reportedly agreed a deal worth approximately €11 million.
Stuttgart had previously offered €18m, but could not come to personal terms with the 25-year-old.
Rossoneri coach Leonardo has constantly told the press that his squad was too small and needed reinforcements. The club's lacklustre pre-season, where they endured losses to Bayern Munich, Inter, Chelsea, Club America, and Boca Juniors seems to have prompted vice-president Adriano Galliani to act on the transfer market.
Huntelaar bagged eight goals in 20 appearances after joining los Blancos in January last season, but has become surplus to requirements after the arrivals of Cristiano Ronaldo, Kaka, and Karim Benzema.
Guys and Girls don't cream your pants yet until we hear the offical but I"m super excited. This is goal.com i know but its been posted in several places in spain and italy so there must be some truth behind it. I think this will be a brilliant signing if we get him.
edit: He turns 26 on august 12 and his goal scoring record with ajax is 92 games 76 goals
Tennie
Aug 3 2009, 08:23 PM
(It was also posted about 6 hours ago in this very thread.)
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