Zed.D
Aug 12 2009, 08:44 PM
EDIT: @ dst's fantasies

... !
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Aug 12 2009, 11:12 PM)

Tuttosuck and Crappiere dello Sport
Good ones
Tennie
Aug 12 2009, 08:46 PM
Fishdoll +1 cookie to zeddie for amusing smiley above.
Zed.D
Aug 12 2009, 08:57 PM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 13 2009, 12:16 AM)

Fishdoll +1 cookie to zeddie for amusing smiley above.

Credit goes to

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nuh
Aug 12 2009, 09:00 PM
A.C. MILAN COMUNICATO UFFICIALE
12/08/2009
MILANO - L'A.C. Milan comunica di aver risolto consensualmente il rapporto di lavoro con il calciatore Zeljko Kalac. Nel ringraziarlo per quanto ha dimostrato nel corso dell'esperienza in rossonero, il Milan formula a Kalac i migliori auguri per il futuro.
L'A.C. Milan, inoltre, comunica di aver acquisito a titolo definitivo dall'A.S. Monaco le prestazioni sportive di Flavio Roma, che ha sottoscritto un contratto fino al 30 giugno 2010.
i dunno what this means but it says on acmilan.com
Tennie
Aug 12 2009, 09:04 PM
Well, that looks official.
Kalac's contract has been rescinded and Flavio Roma has signed a 1-year contract.
nuh
Aug 12 2009, 09:09 PM
A.C. MILAN OFFICIAL NOTICE
12/08/2009
MILAN - The A. C. Milan announced that it had resolved the consensus report
work with the player Zeljko Kalac. In thanking him for what he has shown
during the rossonero in the formula to Milan Kalac best wishes
for the future.
The A. C. Milan also announced that it has acquired outright from
Monaco performance sports Flavio Roma, who signed a contract
until 30 June 2010.
i translated it for all who don't understand italian
Zed.D
Aug 12 2009, 09:18 PM
QUOTE
a 1-year contract.
Thank God. hopefully that means we're having a young and promising 'keeper's name in mind, like Muslera.
Tennie
Aug 12 2009, 09:20 PM
Fishdoll likes him! (But would be very happy with Marchetti or Consigli).
Zed.D
Aug 12 2009, 09:33 PM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 12 2009, 11:50 PM)

Fishdoll likes him! (But would be very happy with Marchetti or Consigli).
Yeah, they too. though Muslera is gaining experience at a faster rate I suppose. and so far he's proved he's a man of big games. first the Coppa Italia and then the Supercoppa. two top performances in two finals
MizNelson
Aug 13 2009, 12:15 AM
Not too long ago, Muslera's name was synonymous with "completely sucked nuggets." He'll be a major stud this season if he can keep up his hot streak from the Coppa win.
il_diavolo_mtl
Aug 13 2009, 12:29 AM
i wouln't expect a midfielder as i find that tabare viudez has waited long enough to prove his worth!!!
i rate him alot higher then cardaccio but would atleast like to see them if they are not going to be dealt and if we are not going to sign a mid...
Bluesummers
Aug 13 2009, 04:34 AM
Update: Galliani has come out and said the cavani and dzemaili are not our objectives. What had probably happened was we made a small bid for him but torino's demands were too high and we withdrew.
However, many reports are stating the deal is still on and Milan will be negotiating and presenting a better deal to torino by friday.
Furthermore,
QUOTE
Foschi: "Dzemaili remains, there is no interest of Palermo and Milan" """Do not go anywhere - said Foschi - no bids were received. The Palermo? The player can not go to Palermo because the rosanero appropriate. I is not got any offer from the club Zamparini. Milan? AC Milan has never asked Dzemaili. They are totally unfounded, I never heard or nor Galliani Braida. I repeat once again: the rossoneri are not interested in Blerim. The player suffers such types of market, is experiencing all this bad situation. Among the other has also lost the national level. We are all tired of these false rumors, now not talking to Dzemaili.
So we have hit another confusion road block.
My opinion? I have no idea. So far hes been denied by all parties in braida and galliani and foschi...so we'll just have to wait and see. Also a freindly reminded that these denials really don't mean anything because we have seen them used countless times as to push the media off their backs so they can find a deal.
Bluesummers
Aug 13 2009, 04:42 AM
Update: reports are claiming that Beckham to milan in January is quite possible and a deal will be reached in the coming months. He'll once again stay until june.
Bluesummers
Aug 13 2009, 04:55 AM
Updates: Sneijder says he refuses to leave madrid for any club. VDV could leave on a free as real breached a contract agreement and have not given him a number yet as his number was given to someone else. Gourcuff to inter was denied.
It looks more and more like VDV could come here. I'm hoping G will sign him before the season starts.
Bluesummers
Aug 13 2009, 05:00 AM
Heres something also interesting for you guys and gals.
Our keeper situation is quite helarious, let me explain.
We released kalac and now have storari, dida, abbiati, roma,
Now:
Roma' contract expires june 2010
Dida's contract expires june 2010
Abbiati's contract expires june 2010
Storari's contract expires june 2010
So next year we could possibly have no keepers if we don't renew with them

Personally I hope we don't renew with any of them and go sign 3 keepers. Sign a good young keepr and 2 decent back ups.
Dracoris
Aug 13 2009, 05:15 AM
I'll be hugely disappointed if we don't sign VDV, he's such a talent and would fit in so well with our team. And for his level of play, we'd get him cheap! It just sounds perfect for both parties, not sure why we havn't been all over this yet.
Bluesummers
Aug 13 2009, 05:20 AM
QUOTE (Dracoris @ Aug 12 2009, 10:15 PM)

I'll be hugely disappointed if we don't sign VDV, he's such a talent and would fit in so well with our team. And for his level of play, we'd get him cheap! It just sounds perfect for both parties, not sure why we havn't been all over this yet.
Its not that we don't want to Dracoris and by the welcome

Its just that there are a few things that are complicated in his situation. First of all we have to admit that he might not want to come to milan as other clubs are linked with him. Second we dont' know if madrid is willing to loan him to us, which is what our management wishes to do regarding him. Third a RB/LB is what we are looking for right now, and VDV could potentially join later after that.
But i'm in the same boat as you. I hope we sign him as soon as possible because inter seems to be lurking.
Bluesummers
Aug 13 2009, 05:22 AM
I'm quite sure after our Trofeo tim we'll perhaps sign another player and another after berlu cup. Or before that and present both the new players and huntelaar at that time with silvio coming out and looking like a hero.
Bluesummers
Aug 13 2009, 05:25 AM
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Aug 12 2009, 05:29 PM)

i wouln't expect a midfielder as i find that tabare viudez has waited long enough to prove his worth!!!
i rate him alot higher then cardaccio but would atleast like to see them if they are not going to be dealt and if we are not going to sign a mid...
I think they're going to be sold or loaned. They haven't featured at all and given that players like strasser and harmony have played over them pretty much shows that they're not in milan's plans this year. Sorry to burst your bubble

But I agree with you, viudez certainly deserves a chance.
MizNelson
Aug 13 2009, 05:32 AM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 12 2009, 09:00 PM)

Roma's contract expires june 2010
Dida's contract expires june 2010
Abbiati's contract expires june 2010
Storari's contract expires june 2010
Hah! That's a riot.
Bluesummers
Aug 13 2009, 05:38 AM
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Aug 12 2009, 10:32 PM)

Hah! That's a riot.
no doubt! I'm willing to bet that this is no coincidence either.
Bluesummers
Aug 13 2009, 08:57 AM
Update: Drenthe to milan is the new links. They are talking about a loan and possible buy deal. True or not? we'll see.
Right now all I can say with confidence is that we are in talks with madrid currently. Whether that is over VDV, Drenthe or someone else is not known. But we'll find out soon.
Bluesummers
Aug 13 2009, 08:59 AM
So our LB links are: Di S, Bale, Drenthe, Vargas.
Di S costs 8m cash only.
Bale costs 12-15m
Drenthe is loan deal+buy clause or cash around 8-12m
Vargas 15-20m
Bluesummers
Aug 13 2009, 09:09 AM
Update: Inter get closer to VDV as talks are set to begin. Price? 10m

Will we jump in and sign him before inter? who knows
Bluesummers
Aug 13 2009, 09:12 AM
and thats all the updates I have for ya today, I'll leave the rest to the fishdoll
han2503
Aug 13 2009, 09:45 AM
If we don't sign VdV and let Inter take him for a measly 10m I'll be p!ssed off, that would only mean that we're not interested in him as we would have first option on him, which imo is totally retarded by our management.
dst
Aug 13 2009, 09:59 AM
Why do you guys want vdV or any midfielder so badly anyway?!?! I could not care less if we sign him, we're going nowhere with the fullbacks we've got.
MizNelson
Aug 13 2009, 10:56 AM
I've never really heard anything positive about Drenthe, either.
Zed.D
Aug 13 2009, 11:02 AM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 13 2009, 07:30 AM)

So next year we could possibly have no keepers if we don't renew with them

Personally I hope we don't renew with any of them and go sign 3 keepers. Sign a good young keepr and 2 decent back ups.
Never gonna happen, you know it.
I think we will renew with Abbiati and Storari, and sign a promising young 'keeper next summer.
dst
Aug 13 2009, 11:51 AM
I was just thinking, what would you do in Roma's case? He could end his career with Monaco and become a legend there (I guess he's still highly regarded) or join one of the greatest clubs and sit at home or on the bench if he's lucky for a whole season... I think I'd go for the former.
@Miz: Drenthe is a good player but he's naturally a left winger so that's why he looks lost at LB some times. I think he can become great and in any case there is no doubt he's an improvement compared to Favalli and Jankulovski! What the f has happened to the latter anyway?
Tennie
Aug 13 2009, 12:09 PM
The Drenthe rumor is right on the cover of today's Corriere. So take that as you will.

(Fishdoll wouldn't even line a birdcage with it).
There's an interview with Arrigo Sacchi in Il Giornale too. he said he'd be disposed to return to Milan if asked but that at this point it'd be uncomfortable for the coach.
Huntelaar has apparently chosen the #11 jersey according to tuttomercatoweb. So the Milan store guys are going to have to make more of those (they've been selling Borriello 11 jerseys).
And apparently Milan are looking at keepers for next year according to tuttomercatoweb: specifically at Marchetti and Consigli.
CrazyMilanFan
Aug 13 2009, 12:21 PM
drenthe is also on mediaset now so there mite be something there
nuh
Aug 13 2009, 12:28 PM
i hope there is nothing going on with drenthe i am sick of the fact we are after other teams left overs
han2503
Aug 13 2009, 12:38 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Aug 13 2009, 09:59 AM)

Why do you guys want vdV or any midfielder so badly anyway?!?! I could not care less if we sign him, we're going nowhere with the fullbacks we've got.
Because we need another mid as much as we need a new fullback. Look at our midfield. Its Pirlo, Rino, Flamini, Seedorf, Ambro, Abate, Dinho, Cardacio. It's littered with defensive mids. Pirlo is the only creative central mid we have plus Seedorf bvut are we really going to spend another season hoping that he would wake up and stop being a lazy @ss? Dinho is our only attacking mid and when you're solely relying on this Dinho you know you have problems.
Fullback is another big issue, but this shouldn't be an either or situation as both are desperately needed. We need a left back and another mid, if these 2 positions are not filled for next season we're going to be screwed
A.X
Aug 13 2009, 12:55 PM
i think we need drenthe he's fast and can pass on defenders and he is good on defence ... but he did some mistakes with real madrid ...
the fact that we're takin other teams left out players is wrong ... because real madrid think they will win next season but in fact they won't .. robben was the best for the last 2 seasons for real ... now when they will get ribery they will sell him ... and vdv did very well in the friendlies of the team this summer but they will sell him too .. same to snejder ... they think they can win with only kaka and cr9 and b19 or b9 it's the same

but they won't !!!! FORZA MILAN !!!
dst
Aug 13 2009, 02:24 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 13 2009, 02:38 PM)

Because we need another mid as much as we need a new fullback. Look at our midfield. Its Pirlo, Rino, Flamini, Seedorf, Ambro, Abate, Dinho, Cardacio. It's littered with defensive mids. Pirlo is the only creative central mid we have plus Seedorf bvut are we really going to spend another season hoping that he would wake up and stop being a lazy @ss? Dinho is our only attacking mid and when you're solely relying on this Dinho you know you have problems.
Fullback is another big issue, but this shouldn't be an either or situation as both are desperately needed. We need a left back and another mid, if these 2 positions are not filled for next season we're going to be screwed
In my eyes:
GK
Zambrotta - Nesta - Silva - Great LB
Gattuso - Pirlo - Flamini
...
> GOOD >
GK
Zambrotta - Nesta - Silva - Favalli/Janku
Gattuso - Pirlo - vdV/whoever
...
= Kaladzity
QUOTE (nuh @ Aug 13 2009, 02:28 PM)

i hope there is nothing going on with drenthe i am sick of the fact we are after other teams left overs
Real Madrid are stupid, they are capable of kicking Kaka out in a year... besides we've done great with players that were considered complete flops where we took them from; Pirlo, Seedorf...
m1ke
Aug 13 2009, 03:01 PM
Don't forget to quote sources when posting rumours! That's usually a good indication of how much weight that rumour actually holds
han2503
Aug 13 2009, 03:05 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Aug 13 2009, 01:24 PM)

In my eyes:
GK
Zambrotta - Nesta - Silva - Great LB
Gattuso - Pirlo - Flamini
...
> GOOD >
GK
Zambrotta - Nesta - Silva - Favalli/Janku
Gattuso - Pirlo - vdV/whoever
...
When we play Rino-Pirlo-Flamini it becomes too stale to even watch, lack of ideas, Pirlo is forced into areas where he's not effective, we saw this happen countless times under Carlo.
And anyway VdV would not be playing there, he's more an attacking mid then a central mid, what we really need for that midfield is a replacement for Seedorf, something I don't see us doing, a player like De Rossi, Hernanes would be the most ideal for that position. And I don't see us playing with that combo either, when Seedorf is back, expect him to start in the midfield, which imo is better then playing the 2 DMs no matter how lazy Seedorf is
CrazyMilanFan
Aug 13 2009, 03:34 PM
OT inter are again linked with yoann gourcuff
Bluesummers
Aug 13 2009, 03:58 PM
I don't see how people don't want VDV. 10mil or less for one of the most talented midfielders in the world. Thats like if you could have pirlo or ronaldinho or fabregas for 10m you wouldn't take it. Just cause of one bad season and people rate him poorly?
Lets not forget that when real bought him last summer, he was on the top 10 list for amazing buys of the summer at only 16m.
Bluesummers
Aug 13 2009, 04:03 PM
Update: La stampa(newspaper) has launched reports saying the denials made yesterday about Dzemaili to milan and palermo were a bluff. They are claiming negotations are underway and an announcement will be made in the next few days of his move. Torino will be in the market for a midfielder and will want to sign one before releasing the swiss.
anyways bs? No idea. We'll see.
Bluesummers
Aug 13 2009, 04:04 PM
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Aug 13 2009, 08:34 AM)

OT inter are again linked with yoann gourcuff
not gonna happen. They are in for VDV. Gourcuff is just a bluff to make madrid sell. A stupid bluff imo, because even the common man can tell hes not moving.
Bluesummers
Aug 13 2009, 04:17 PM
QUOTE
Rafa Benitez: Aquilani Has Better Killer Pass Than Xabi Alonso & We Want To Sign A Forward
what is wrong with this guy. He's got serious issues.
MizNelson
Aug 13 2009, 04:49 PM
QUOTE (acmilan.com)
'Il Milan è come una centrifuga, una società con dei meccanismi rodati e che vanno velocissimi, ma mi adatterò. I giocatori puntano in alto. La squadra è forte c'è da stare tranquilli'. Parla Falvio Roma.
Less than 24 hours with us and his name's been spelled wrong already. Welcome to the club, Mr. Roma.
kurtsimonw
Aug 13 2009, 05:27 PM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 13 2009, 03:58 PM)

I don't see how people don't want VDV. 10mil or less for one of the most talented midfielders in the world.
The problem is would he come here? He stated last night that he'd consider a return to Germany, or a move to Italy, but England was his #1 destination.
Tennie
Aug 13 2009, 09:18 PM
Just an FYI in advance while Fishdoll remembers: there's not likely to be very much (if any) news out of Italy from tomorrow afternoon til Monday. Saturday (August 15) is a major religious holiday in Italy and almost everyone (including journalists) takes it off.
dst
Aug 13 2009, 09:25 PM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 13 2009, 05:58 PM)

I don't see how people don't want VDV. 10mil or less for one of the most talented midfielders in the world. Thats like if you could have pirlo or ronaldinho or fabregas for 10m you wouldn't take it. Just cause of one bad season and people rate him poorly?
Who said I do not like vdV? I think he's great actually but that's not what I'm saying. We buy Xavi and we'll still be weak because ours is a system that relies HEAVILY on full backs.
EDIT: Does anyone know why Mattioni was released? Was it a quality problem?
nuh
Aug 13 2009, 10:11 PM
i dunno why he was released but i heard he is linked with barcelona
jbryant1
Aug 13 2009, 11:06 PM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 13 2009, 08:17 AM)

what is wrong with this guy. He's got serious issues.
He's pulling the mourinho technique trying to give His player some confidence and taking a shot at Alonso.
At least he replaced Alonso with someone solid. Look at us we get rid of all of our offensive midfielders- kaka and gourcuff that still have something, getting a ridiculous sum of money and not replace them. We are the biggest joke of world football. Every season we wait it gets worse because we need more. Soon we will need 5 midfielders, 3 strikers and 3 defenders. The only way we will get this done is if we get bought out by some Arab nation.
Every year we cover the wound with a bandaid and it takes time for players to settle.
jbryant1
Aug 13 2009, 11:19 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 13 2009, 04:38 AM)

Because we need another mid as much as we need a new fullback. Look at our midfield. Its Pirlo, Rino, Flamini, Seedorf, Ambro, Abate, Dinho, Cardacio. It's littered with defensive mids. Pirlo is the only creative central mid we have plus Seedorf bvut are we really going to spend another season hoping that he would wake up and stop being a lazy @ss? Dinho is our only attacking mid and when you're solely relying on this Dinho you know you have problems.
Fullback is another big issue, but this shouldn't be an either or situation as both are desperately needed. We need a left back and another mid, if these 2 positions are not filled for next season we're going to be screwed
Yes! And with the Ancelotti full backs over wingers system they rely on the #9 forward once Scheva(which we never replaced) and a solid attacking midfielder- kaka (no replacement) aside from that 5 years ago Pirlo seedorf and Gattuso was probably the best midfield in the business, now they've lost their pace and I believe motivation they are too complacent. I am Pirlo I have a spot no matter what happens= complacency.
On top of this our distribution from our full backs is less than adequate.
We have major holes in this in this line-up. But what can we do nothing.
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