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Tennie
Meh. I think goal is far worse than most places. It's why I don't bother even looking at the site any more. And yes all journalists will 'spin' articles, but these guys go far beyond what even partially responsible journalists would do. I still think it's pretty much worthless as a news source. People here can look at or believe whatever they want but Fishdoll and I are going to continue to overlook things copied from goal because, well, that place isn't worth our time.
Bluesummers
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AC Milan Need Reinforcements - Boca Juniors Coach Alfio Basile

AC Milan lost both their matches in the Audi Cup, falling 4-1 to Bayern Munich before being defeated on penalties in the consolation game by Boca Juniors.

The coach of the Argentine side, Alfio Basile, believes the Italian outfit have become significantly less competitive over the past couple of seasons.

"I have spoken to [Milan coach] Leonardo, who is worried," he revealed to the Corriere dello Sport on Friday.

"[President Silvio] Berlusconi must assist in buying players for their attack, compared to the 2007 team that won the World Club Cup they are missing a lot, mostly their offensive potential."

Milan won the 2007 World Club Cup in Japan by defeating Boca Juniors 4-2. The Rossoneri have not won a competition since that time. The Italian side have also failed to bring in a replacement for Brazilian star Kaka, who left the club for Real


just sad. We have to have a coach from argentina tell us we need players. Truly pathetic.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jul 31 2009, 12:27 PM) *
@ Blue


Would you!!?

will I? hmmm..... okay tongue.gif

but if i'm right what shoudl we change dst's name too?
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Tennie @ Jul 31 2009, 12:27 PM) *
Meh. I think goal is far worse than most places. It's why I don't bother even looking at the site any more. And yes all journalists will 'spin' articles, but these guys go far beyond what even partially responsible journalists would do. I still think it's pretty much worthless as a news source. People here can look at or believe whatever they want but Fishdoll and I are going to continue to overlook things copied from goal because, well, that place isn't worth our time.

fair enough. But were still going to post them as it does not go against forum rules smile.gif
Tennie
Then feel free, but be aware that at least one person thinks you're wasting your time taking up space with useless dross. smile.gif
Zed.D
Blue, what's happened to you. you're nagging again all the time! biggrin.gif I thought your perspective had changed and neared that of R7...?
Bluesummers
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Official: Lazio are have acquired free-agent striker Julio Cruz after the player agreed a deal with the capital club.


another one we could have gotten. sigh...this policy under 23 is stupid and is not benefitting us! Pannuci and now cruz, two decent players who could have def helped us out.
han2503
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jul 31 2009, 06:31 PM) *
Blue, what's happened to you. you're nagging again all the time! biggrin.gif I thought your perspective had changed and neared that of R7...?

He removed his rose tinted glasses and discovered that it was not roses that were being hurled his way but it was actually cr@p
Zed.D
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jul 31 2009, 09:59 PM) *
will I? hmmm..... okay tongue.gif

but if i'm right what shoudl we change dst's name too?


Good!
-
Actually dst's name should have been changed after he lost the Bet II.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jul 31 2009, 12:31 PM) *
Blue, what's happened to you. you're nagging again all the time! biggrin.gif I thought your perspective had changed and neared that of R7...?

i'm not nagging i'm just not in a bright mood. Yeah my perspective is much better. Last year I probably would have quit and left not even bothered with.

But at this it just hurts being a milanfan man, and I have no idea how to explain it but its the worst feeling ever. Milan used to bring me such joy, waiting until we signed a big player bragging to all my freinds, watching the games. It was like free heroin, all the addictive qualities with no physical damage. But all that is now gone and has left me feeling raw sad.gif
han2503
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jul 31 2009, 06:32 PM) *
another one we could have gotten. sigh...this policy under 23 is stupid and is not benefitting us! Pannuci and now cruz, two decent players who could have def helped us out.

Its easy, because by saying this Berlu practically ruled out 90% of the top class players that we could get
Bluesummers
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 31 2009, 12:34 PM) *
Its easy, because by saying this Berlu practically ruled out 90% of the top class players that we could get

han strikes again lol! tongue.gif
han2503
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jul 31 2009, 06:35 PM) *
han strikes again lol! tongue.gif

Not getting it unsure.gif
Zed.D
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jul 31 2009, 10:04 PM) *
i'm not nagging i'm just not in a bright mood. Yeah my perspective is much better. Last year I probably would have quit and left not even bothered with.

But at this it just hurts being a milanfan man, and I have no idea how to explain it but its the worst feeling ever. Milan used to bring me such joy, waiting until we signed a big player bragging to all my freinds, watching the games. It was like free heroin, all the addictive qualities with no physical damage. But all that is now gone and has left me feeling raw sad.gif


Do it my way, wait till the transfer window is officially closed , because you'd feel stupid if after all the things you've said, one or two top class players arrived. still 30 days to go. wink.gif
han2503
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jul 31 2009, 07:39 PM) *
Do it my way, wait till the transfer window is officially closed , because you'd feel stupid if after all the things you've said, one or two top class players arrived. still 30 days to go. wink.gif

30 days of pure misery dry.gif
Bluesummers
Update: Its reported that we have tried to strike a loan or exchange deal with perez regarding huntelaar, but the only player he is willing to budge for is pirlo. He would do a straight swap of pirlo and huntelaar, otherwise its 20m cash.


Tennie
Reported where?
Bluesummers
Update: Lazio put De Silvestri, pandev and Ledesma on the market.
Tennie
The lazio thing isn't news. Those three have been on the market for weeks.
dst
QUOTE (Tennie @ Jul 31 2009, 09:27 PM) *
Meh. I think goal is far worse than most places. It's why I don't bother even looking at the site any more. And yes all journalists will 'spin' articles, but these guys go far beyond what even partially responsible journalists would do. I still think it's pretty much worthless as a news source. People here can look at or believe whatever they want but Fishdoll and I are going to continue to overlook things copied from goal because, well, that place isn't worth our time.

We're wasting more time talking about how crappy that site is than we would if we read what's in it... what I'm saying is yes, it surely is a crappy place but why all the fuss about it? Channel4 is also crappy (maybe less but it does not really matter to me), half of their stuff is from Tuttosport and Corriere... it's just news, I never believe whatever is said anyways no matter where they come from.
Tennie
Problem is, dst, some people DO believe what's written there. smile.gif And get stroppy when it's shown to be incorrect.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Tennie @ Jul 31 2009, 12:48 PM) *
Reported where?

studio sport
dst
I get your point. Though I think that while it's a crappy place to look for news people who tend to would get stroppy anyway and there's nothing I can do about it so I don't worry about goal.com.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jul 31 2009, 03:42 PM) *
I would prefer Arabs over Israelis, for the simple reason they are individually rich and don't need to operate in consortiums.

I don't think Guydamak is part of a consortium, I think he bought Pompey himself. While Man City certainly aren't owned by one guy!

Stop being such a H*tler, leave the Jews alone.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Tennie @ Jul 31 2009, 12:51 PM) *
The lazio thing isn't news. Those three have been on the market for weeks.

whoa easy...chill out. I just post what is written out there. If it regards milan its news...

Am i making useless posts or something? Is that why it bothers you? I mean it maybe old but its still existent.
sansiro1708
the sell of pirlo could open space for a Hutelaar(or we can step it up and go all the way for dzeko) and sneijder deal i think
Bluesummers
QUOTE (sansiro1708 @ Jul 31 2009, 01:00 PM) *
the sell of pirlo could open space for a Hutelaar(or we can step it up and go all the way for dzeko) and sneijder deal i think

agreed. I think we should do pirlo plus 10m for sneijder and huntelaar. Maybe we can add galliani and braida bending over too. They might accept tongue.gif
dst
QUOTE (sansiro1708 @ Jul 31 2009, 10:00 PM) *
the sell of pirlo could open space for a Hutelaar(or we can step it up and go all the way for dzeko) and sneijder deal i think

There's more than one of them? tongue.gif
Bluesummers
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Adriano Galliani Denies AC Milan Takeover Plans




With the recent problems Milan have been having on the transfer market, it has been suggested that vice-president Adriano Galliani is planning to take over the club along with a group of Israeli investors.

Current president Silvio Berlusconi is said to be reluctant to make major investments because of his role as Prime Minister of Italy, and does not want to set a bad example during the financial crisis. There have been rumours for some time that he is planning to sell the club.

However, according to Galliani these are all rumours fabricated by the media.

"It is a completely unfounded story, more than false," he said to La Repubblica. "The relationship with Silvio Berlusconi is inseparable and has been going on since November 1, 1979."

Milan have seen all of their transfer targets to bolster their attack fall through. The most clear example of their apparent economic problems was their failure to sign Sevilla striker Luis Fabiano, as they were unwilling to raise their bid of €14 million, a fee deemed too small by the Spanish club.



almager
if they sell Pirlo,and buy huntelaar ,they will be fools,they shold buy ,hernanes,ya ya toure,jovetic or......
LaPalma
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jul 31 2009, 08:06 PM) *
So Martins joins Wolfsburg... how long before the Dzeko deal is announced on acmilan.com? any guesses? happy.gif

A year?
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jul 31 2009, 10:42 AM) *
Some papers saying Galliani is arranging for a hostile takeover.

I would prefer Arabs over Israelis, for the simple reason they are individually rich and don't need to operate in consortiums. A consortium is asking for trouble. A single person usually implies relative stability. Esp. if he's rich enough.

If Slivio ends up selling I think I would prefer Ferro the Rich 'Italian' to buy us over.
It doesn't hurt that his trademark chocolate rocks as well!
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (Tennie @ Jul 31 2009, 02:20 PM) *
Your post is deleted, dst. smile.gif And what's wrong about the site is that they mistranslate and sensationalize and just plain make up a lot of stuff. Hardly anything posted there is accurate.

EDIT: It's like getting your news from the National Enquirer (or in the UK from the Sun). Sure, you can do it but you're going to have a very warped and not accurate view of what's going on.

I guess its just a convenience for us that are most (/only) familiar with English - cuz it sites news from different papers around the globe for different leagues.

I don't have much of a problem with the site, but I know to take it with a grain of salt.
I sometimes use it to begin searching for something in a foreign language if its interesting as well.
Tennie
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Both Sky tg24 (Sky italia's 24 hour news station) and Mediaset are reporting that Andrea Pirlo's agent is in London negotiating terms for his client. Looks like it's going to be something like 20mln cash. And no Pizarro.

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It's gonna be the end of the Milan we've known.
kurtsimonw
I think this is relevant for us about now. sad.gif

TriniKing_CE
F*vK!!!
Noo!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mad.gif

Quick... someone tell me there is still hope that Pirlo will stay! sad.gif cry.gif
Habitant
i dont think milan has ever gotten so bad in one summer, theres was the early 80s but because of the whole betting scandal...
ganney
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Aug 1 2009, 04:08 AM) *
F*vK!!!
Noo!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mad.gif

Quick... someone tell me there is still hope that Pirlo will stay! sad.gif cry.gif


sorry, judging by the ways things have gone so far... i don't think so
ganney
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jul 31 2009, 07:39 PM) *
Do it my way, wait till the transfer window is officially closed , because you'd feel stupid if after all the things you've said, one or two top class players arrived. still 30 days to go. wink.gif


its nt just about top players, its the whole structure that's failing... scouting for example: i understand we've got several scouts around the world, i thought they were paid to actually scout for decent players. if the management knew ther'd be no cash to splash they should av sent the scouts hunting for decent players at whatever price we can indeed afford rather than shaming us with failed bids here&there. KOLO TOURe was signed from an african club(asec mimiosas for £100k, sold this week for £16m)
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Tennie @ Jul 31 2009, 07:29 PM) *
cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

Both Sky tg24 (Sky italia's 24 hour news station) and Mediaset are reporting that Andrea Pirlo's agent is in London negotiating terms for his client. Looks like it's going to be something like 20mln cash. And no Pizarro.

realmad.gif realmad.gif realmad.gif

It's gonna be the end of the Milan we've known.

cry.gif
Zed.D
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Aug 1 2009, 02:20 AM) *
If Slivio ends up selling I think I would prefer Ferro the Rich 'Italian' to buy us over.
It doesn't hurt that his trademark chocolate rocks as well!


Yeah the Ferrero products rock! I'd love to see him take over.

QUOTE (LaPalma @ Aug 1 2009, 01:34 AM) *
A year?


Better than never...

QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 1 2009, 05:59 AM) *
cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
Both Sky tg24 (Sky italia's 24 hour news station) and Mediaset are reporting that Andrea Pirlo's agent is in London negotiating terms for his client. Looks like it's going to be something like 20mln cash. And no Pizarro.
realmad.gif realmad.gif realmad.gif
It's gonna be the end of the Milan we've known.


Maldini, Kaka and now probably Pirlo in one transfer window. wow... I'm speechless. never ever thought of seeing this day. what hurts even more is that worthy replacements haven't been brought either...

QUOTE (ganney @ Aug 1 2009, 11:00 AM) *
its nt just about top players, its the whole structure that's failing... scouting for example: i understand we've got several scouts around the world, i thought they were paid to actually scout for decent players. if the management knew ther'd be no cash to splash they should av sent the scouts hunting for decent players at whatever price we can indeed afford rather than shaming us with failed bids here&there. KOLO TOURe was signed from an african club(asec mimiosas for £100k, sold this week for £16m)


I know what you're saying... our scouts suck (not Locke's) donkey balls. so does our youth system (to a lesser degree though). Silvio doesn't invest. top players are leaving/being sold. everything looks bad nowadays! upon selling Kaka they promised us a new Milan - an absolutely competitive one! lol... I can't see it no matter how hard I try.
ganney
QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 1 2009, 02:29 AM) *
cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

Both Sky tg24 (Sky italia's 24 hour news station) and Mediaset are reporting that Andrea Pirlo's agent is in London negotiating terms for his client. Looks like it's going to be something like 20mln cash. And no Pizarro.

realmad.gif realmad.gif realmad.gif

It's gonna be the end of the Milan we've known.


my problem isn't so much with selling pirlo, most players will eventually move on at some point in their careers moreover i don't know what figures we'r gettin but i reckon its a fair deal... the real problem is the uncertainty of what happens to the money A. balancing books
B. straight into berlu's pocket/divorce settlements or whatever else he's got goin on
C. rebuilding a winning side
the spiders are having so much fun spinning all sorts of webs in our trophy cabinet
Bluesummers
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Andrea Pirlo is just a signature away from becoming a Chelsea player after agreeing personal terms with the Premier League side.

According to Milan-based paper Il Giornale, the Italian international has been offered a four-year deal worth €6 million-per-season - the same amount he earns with the Rossoneri.

Roman Abramovich will also pay Milan between €18m and €20m for the player, who is dearly wanted by Blues boss Carlo Ancelotti.

A move has been propelled forward rapidly after the player's agent, Tulio Tinti, flew to London late on Friday night.

Tinti is in the capital to tie up the deal. Pirlo is then expected to fly to England on Monday morning, leaving his Milan team-mates behind at Milanello.

On Friday evening, Chelsea's press officer, Steve Atkins, claimed there was "nothing official" when asked about the speculation surrounding the Italian ace.

Despite the report from Il Giornale, neither Pirlo nor Milan have made a comment just yet.
dst
... HA! What a great family we are... rolleyes.gif

It's funny because when I fell in love with Milan we were in a bad condition as we are now but it was because Milan had this certain quality about them, a class. Right now, we're as classy as anyone.

Even Madrid is looking perfectly classy from down here!
Bluesummers
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The money taken from Milan through the sale of Pirlo (18 million) will be invested to meet the immediate need of Leonardo, who pressed for a center forward role and a defender, preferably outside. If the tip regarding the name is that of Luis Fabiano, the quarterback of clothing the suspect was rossonero De Silvestri, the Lazio 21enne put at the door by Lotito. On the side of the scales also Oddo.

The world champion could be included in a treaty that is based on at least 7 million, the figure that Fiorentina is willing to pay for the couple outside. Three problems for this solution: the age difference between the two (Oddo has 33 years), the engagement (the Wee currently receives 2.5 million annual net turnover totally out of the budget lotitiano) and reports not idyllic between Oddo and the chairman of Lazio, which created many problems during the transition in rossonero. Positive signs, however the friendly relations between the two companies, which perhaps could also tentatively mention to the subject-Ledesma, a player for the ideal replacement for Pirlo.

As for Luis Fabiano, however, incoming signals from Seville and his prosecutor, Fuentes: the doors are still open with 15-16 million and the transfer could finally quit.
Bluesummers
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Andrea Pirlo’s move to Chelsea will fund the Milan revolution, raising cash for Luis Fabiano, Wesley Sneijder and possibly Juan Roman Riquelme.

The Rossoneri have been convinced to take action on the transfer market after a series of embarrassing friendly defeats, including this week’s 4-1 to Bayern Munich.

The £56m raised by selling Kaka to Real Madrid has not been reinvested, as it was needed to balance the books, so it’s now reported they will sacrifice Pirlo to bring in fresh cash.

While Italian newspapers suggest a deal is done and will be announced shortly, The Sun claims Chelsea saw their offer of £14m plus Claudio Pizarro rejected.

The 30-year-old is lining up a contract worth £105,000 per week and a reunion with Carlo Ancelotti, as he no longer fits into Leonardo’s tactical system.

This transfer would in turn raise the necessary funds for Milan to complete their Luis Fabiano swoop, as Sevilla turned down their “insulting” £12.5m bid.

It is believed the Brazilian could be signed for around £18m, as he has already stated his desire to join the San Siro giants.

Other reinforcements are also eyed for the midfield if Pirlo moves on, as Football Italia has learned that Argentina star Riquelme is desperate to push through a switch to Milan.

Riquelme’s team Boca Juniors played the Diavolo in this week’s friendly tournament and was spotted asking opponents about a potential switch.

There is also interest for Real Madrid’s Dutch figure Sneijder, who might be available on loan after the revolution at the Bernabeu.

If Fabiano is beyond reach, then the younger Klaas Jan Huntelaar would be Leonardo’s favourite option after the £10m move to Stuttgart collapsed.
Bluesummers
Update: Allright here we go! Pirlo is good as sold. Will be announced shortly. Price 18-20m.

Berlu has also increased our budget, by how much it is not known.

Our first signing after that is Di Silvestri from Lazio. We are in negotations with Lolito and we will use Oddo+cash or just cash to sign him.

After that we are going after Fabiano and Huntelaar, as bronzetti and braida continue negotations in spain, while Galliani is in wolfsburg still talking about Dzeko.


Bluesummers
Signings will all hit next week at rapid pace is what I am predicting. We'll see more news by monday forsure.
Bluesummers
hernanes news:


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Photos internet Reached exclusively by Calciomercato.com is the prosecutor of the young and talented Hernanes, midfielder of St. Paul, still leaves room for negotiation, despite the 24enne midfielder and club paolista the suitors are not missing.

"The St. Paul is not interested in selling Hernanes - said Augusto Frederico Pena, the prosecutor player reached by telephone from Calciomercato.com -. But if there was a proposal economically attractive and the player wanted to leave we would be willing to deal."

A step forward was officially for now only Cska of Moscow, but did not fall in full of Hernanes, looking for a top team to launch his European career after the success of the Brazilian: "CSKA made an offer that was not considered satisfactory - Pena continues -. The player has not in his plans to go play in Russia. An Italian club? So far nobody has made real progress "

For rossoneri, therefore, the margins are negotiated, as well as the placet player groped for the Italian adventure: "Who does not like to play in Milan - says Pena -. E 'one of the top 5 clubs in the world, has a special relationship with Brazil and its football coach and the same is Brazilian. Before the dream, however, Milan must come forward and formalize an offer. "

Rossoneri I have the problem of non, and this complicates the negotiation so that for now even unofficial contacts have not been, at least to hear Pena: "Contact with rossoneri? I have not received any phone call."
Zed.D
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 1 2009, 01:34 PM) *
Update: Allright here we go! Pirlo is good as sold. Will be announced shortly. Price 18-20m.

Berlu has also increased our budget, by how much it is not known.

Our first signing after that is Di Silvestri from Lazio. We are in negotations with Lolito and we will use Oddo+cash or just cash to sign him.

After that we are going after Fabiano and Huntelaar, as bronzetti and braida continue negotations in spain, while Galliani is in wolfsburg still talking about Dzeko.


How do you know all that? unsure.gif
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