Bluesummers
Aug 10 2009, 09:05 PM
Update: Links for the day:
Luca Toni al West Ham
Fernando Gago al Atletic Madrid
Van der Vaart al Aston Villa
Fabregas al Barça
Bluesummers
Aug 10 2009, 09:07 PM
Update;
Lotito: 'I told you so!'
President Claudio Lotito is ready to welcome back the Lazio 'dissidents' and gives his update on a five-year plan.
The Biancocelesti shocked Inter with a 2-1 victory in the Italian Super Cup, following up on the Coppa Italia triumph in May.
“Many people laughed when in 2004 I said I would make a winning side with no debts and a 'virtuous' bank balance,” said Lotito.
“Now they have had to eat their words. My pride is not so much at the success as with the fact we've proved that you can win with ideas and not just by spending money.”
When Lotito took over the Biancocelesti, they were on the verge of bankruptcy following Sergio Cragnotti's reign.
“Things have changed since his day. We are winning and will not stop here with the trophies.
“We proved in the Super Cup that we have a very competitive squad. I will reinforce it even more.”
This could be free of charge, as the trip to Beijing was without contract rebels Goran Pandev, Cristian Ledesma and Lorenzo De Silvestri.
“They pulled themselves out of this project, but as a good Christian, I am ready to embrace the prodigal sons.”
Tennie
Aug 10 2009, 09:20 PM
Also re Suarez, I really have to wonder at the brain of whoever wrote that bit of gossip (or the milan transfer people who are considering it). Suarez and Huntelaar....really really REALLY don't like each other. One would think that the club would be smart enough not to buy two players who detest each other.
Ry4n
Aug 10 2009, 09:40 PM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 10 2009, 09:20 PM)

Also re Suarez, I really have to wonder at the brain of whoever wrote that bit of gossip (or the milan transfer people who are considering it). Suarez and Huntelaar....really really REALLY don't like each other. One would think that the club would be smart enough not to buy two players who detest each other.
Suarez from Ajax ?
mishie
Aug 10 2009, 09:45 PM
QUOTE (Ry4n @ Aug 10 2009, 09:40 PM)

Suarez from Ajax ?
Yes
Tennie
Aug 10 2009, 09:45 PM
Yup, according to blue's headline. which is what makes me wonder about it. Makes no sense.
Ry4n
Aug 10 2009, 10:32 PM
QUOTE (mishie @ Aug 10 2009, 09:45 PM)

Yes
dam man i like him , didnt know there was rift between Hunterlaar and Suarez tho
Caesar
Aug 11 2009, 02:15 AM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 10 2009, 10:20 PM)

Also re Suarez, I really have to wonder at the brain of whoever wrote that bit of gossip (or the milan transfer people who are considering it). Suarez and Huntelaar....really really REALLY don't like each other. One would think that the club would be smart enough not to buy two players who detest each other.
I think you are misinformed about that, Huntelaar and Suarez have always been very friendly with eachother off-the-field. And on-the-field they had great chemistry together and complemented eachother very well. In the beginning when Suarez joined Ajax he played very egotistically (similar to Arjen Robben) with his head down often ignoring the other players and didn't lay off enough in situations where it was clearly better to do so and that frustrated Huntelaar quite a bit because he often positioned himself so that he would be in much better position to score and Suarez is simply not as clinical as Huntelaar. But over time their play together improved dramatically to the point that they could find each other almost blindly and they turned into an extremely effective couple. Suarez would be a great signing for AC Milan, not only for his individual qualities, but also because he works extremely well together with Huntelaar. Ajax will definitely not let him go for the low price that Milan is thinking of though.
Tennie
Aug 11 2009, 02:23 AM
I stand corrected.

My info/knowledge about the Eredivisie is sketchy at best (here in the US we only get one game a week and that's in Spanish, which I don't speak well) and clearly the stuff about Suarez/Huntelaar that I remember is from the early period.
Does Suarez have an EU passport?
Also, Fishdoll welcomes Caesar and offers him a cookie.
(Do post an intro in the introductions section! It's nice to have a boardmember from the Netherlands!)
TriniKing_CE
Aug 11 2009, 02:28 AM
Welcome Caesar!
Bluesummers
Aug 11 2009, 08:37 AM
Jose Mourinho has told Inter president Massimo Moratti that he wants to sign Real Madrid midfielder Wesley Sneijder, according to AS.
The Portuguese coach has identified the Dutch playmaker as his number one target as he looks to improve his midfield options for the coming season.
However, a potential transfer seems distant at present with the both sides having conflicting views on the terms of the deal. While Los Blancos will look for a fee of around €25 million, Inter apparently deem this sum excessive and prefer a loan deal.
Reports in Marca suggest that the Italian giants already have their sights on an alternative should they fail to sign Sneijder: his international and club team-mate, Rafael van der Vaart.
The 26-year-old midfielder, who has so far failed to replicate his stellar form of Euro 2008 following his move from Hamburg, would be free to leave the Bernabeu for a fee in the region of €13m.
Bluesummers
Aug 11 2009, 08:39 AM
QUOTE
A number of names have been mooted for Inter's trequartista role, with Wesley Sneijder and Rafael van der Vaart among those to be thrown into the pot, but Inter could shock the world of Calcio by moving for former Milan player Yoann Gourcuff.
The Ligue 1 Player of the Year scored twice for Bordeaux on Sunday as they eased to a 4-1 victory over Racing Club de Lens, and he has shown excellent control and awareness, as well as a knack of scoring some spectacular goals, in the colours of les Girondins.
According to 24oredisport.com, Jose Mourinho has ear-marked the 23-year-old as another option for his attacking midfield position. While Dejan Stankovic filled in the role last season, Mourinho is looking for a more natural attacking midfielder but his search has been fruitless so far.
This could change if he was to move for Gourcuff, who is valued at €20 million by Bordeaux, around €5m more than they paid for him earlier this summer. The challenge of Serie A remains unfulfilled for the Frenchman, who failed to make an impression at Milan prior to being loaned to Bordeaux.
However, after signing a four-year contract with the French champions it will take all of Mourinho’s persuasive powers to tear Gourcuff away from the Aquitaine side.
CrazyMilanFan
Aug 11 2009, 08:39 AM
another alternative being mentioned for inter is gourcuff
Bluesummers
Aug 11 2009, 08:41 AM
QUOTE
Roma are continuing to chase a striker and have narrowed their options to Real Madrid starlet Alvaro Negredo and Milan striker Marco Borriello, reports the Corriere dello Sport.
With all the incoming stars at the Spanish club, Negredo is unlikely to find much space, but the club do not want to sell their young striker on an outright basis. However, they are willing to loan the player to Roma, an option the capital club are seriously considering after the player's agent complimented the Italian club last week and hinted that it would be a good destination for his client.
Meanwhile, Marco Borriello may now be surplus to requirements at Milan with the arrival of Klaas-Jan Huntelaar, and the Giallorossi are considering taking a chance on the player, who was injured for a majority of the 2008-09 campaign.
Alternatives for the Serie A outfit are Roman Pavlyuchenko of Tottenham Hotspur and promising Siena striker Abdelkader Ghezzal.
Roma have had a fairly quiet summer besides selling Alberto Aquilani to Liverpool, but they have started off their season on a positive note, defeating AA Gent convincingly over two-legs in the Europa League.
han2503
Aug 11 2009, 08:41 AM
Saw that Gourcuff piece, I call BS
Bluesummers
Aug 11 2009, 08:44 AM
QUOTE
Update: Marca "Inter won the derby for Sneijder"
Even the prosecutor of the player, Soren Lerby, confirmed he had spoken with the company Nerazzurri. The cost of Dutch was set at 25 million. Everything would seem to lead to a shift to Inter the food, since the club Moratti has no need to deal with the budget, and also because it could enter into negotiations as a player Maicon, always in sight of Real Madrid.
Bluesummers
Aug 11 2009, 08:45 AM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 11 2009, 01:41 AM)

Saw that Gourcuff piece, I call BS
You take the words right out of my mouth. +1
han2503
Aug 11 2009, 08:54 AM
On the Sneijder thing, we could go for VdV who's a lot cheaper, and we don't have to persuade Real by giving them one of our best players in Maicon, who imo was just as influential for Inter as Ibra was
Bluesummers
Aug 11 2009, 08:59 AM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 11 2009, 01:54 AM)

On the Sneijder thing, we could go for VdV who's a lot cheaper, and we don't have to persuade Real by giving them one of our best players in Maicon, who imo was just as influential for Inter as Ibra was
I agree. I'd prefer vdv on loan than forcing ourselves to pay 20m for sneijder. VDV can be just as good given the opportunity.
I think mourinho has alot of defenders so he doesn't really care.
He has:
Santon
Maicon
Zanetti
Chivu
lucio
burdisso
samuel
rivas
matterazi
He has a very good bench and starting team in defence.
Bluesummers
Aug 11 2009, 09:02 AM
Inter:
Santon
Maicon
Zanetti
Chivu
lucio
burdisso
samuel
rivas
matterazi
Milan:
Nesta
Kaladze
Bonera
Onyewu
antonini
Favalli
Janku
Silva
Oddo
Zambrotta
Who do you guys think has the better defensive roster?
I'd say inter personally.
Bluesummers
Aug 11 2009, 09:07 AM
UPDATE!
Di Silvestri negotations hit a stumbling block as Gareth Bale takes first priority for Milan
From then on it became a quarterback at the court of Leonardo will come but probably will not be Lorenzo De Silvestri. The negotiations on the side biancoceleste seems to have bogged down after the rejection of the inclusion of Lotitio Oddo in exchange technique.
The President of Lazio wants cash only. With this slowdown, the Milan seems to have driven on Welsh Gareth Bale, whose price will be higher than that of De Silvestri but it is also more flexible to deal with.
I knew it! @han
Bluesummers
Aug 11 2009, 09:08 AM
By the way prices are:
Silvestri : 8M
21 years old
Bale: 12-15m
20 years old
I think though we still sign Di S. We'll pay the cash or give them one of our kids+cash.
Bluesummers
Aug 11 2009, 09:18 AM
QUOTE
Chelsea Owner Roman Abramovich To Offer €46.5m For Bayern Munich's Franck Ribery

Looks like carlo could possibly get his wish! Silvio couldn't fulfill this, lets see if abrom can.
kurtsimonw
Aug 11 2009, 09:21 AM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 11 2009, 09:08 AM)

By the way prices are:
Silvestri : 8M
21 years old
Bale: 12-15m
20 years old
I think though we still sign Di S. We'll pay the cash or give them one of our kids+cash.
I can't understand this Bale love. Spurs bought him, he's been terrible - he's yet to win an EPL game in his 2 seasons there - so now one of Europes top clubs want him? Okay..

Very disappointed if this is anything more than a rumour.
Bluesummers
Aug 11 2009, 09:23 AM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 11 2009, 02:21 AM)

I can't understand this Bale love. Spurs bought him, he's been terrible - he's yet to win an EPL game in his 2 seasons there - so now one of Europes top clubs want him? Okay..

Very disappointed if this is anything more than a rumour.
he's so overrated its not even funny.
You know kurt sometimes I wish we were linked with AV players so you could hook us up. Its so hard trying to get news, there is barely anything

I'm growing impatient! We need signings!!!!
Bluesummers
Aug 11 2009, 09:25 AM
update: So reports are claiming that Storari will be our keeper until abbs has recovered.
1)abbiati
2)storari
3)dida
4)kalac

If this is true than LOL!!!! 4m a season for Dida to be benched, f*ckin sad!!!

Bravo G Bravo!
LaPalma
Aug 11 2009, 09:40 AM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 11 2009, 10:18 AM)


Looks like carlo could possibly get his wish! Silvio couldn't fulfill this, lets see if abrom can.
For only 46 million

Not a chance. Real have already offered 80 million and their offer has been refused.
kurtsimonw
Aug 11 2009, 09:49 AM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 11 2009, 09:23 AM)

he's so overrated its not even funny.
You know kurt sometimes I wish we were linked with AV players so you could hook us up. Its so hard trying to get news, there is barely anything

I'm growing impatient! We need signings!!!!
I'd rather Milan were not linked with our players! Then again, better to Milan than anywhere else.
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Aug 11 2009, 09:40 AM)

For only 46 million

Not a chance. Real have already offered 80 million and their offer has been refused.
Has Ribery really been that good? I saw alot of Bundesliga football when he and Toni first joined and they were great, heard less of him last season yet he seems to be worth even more.
Zed.D
Aug 11 2009, 09:55 AM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 11 2009, 11:55 AM)

update: So reports are claiming that Storari will be our keeper until abbs has recovered.
1)abbiati
2)storari
3)dida
4)kalac

If this is true than LOL!!!! 4m a season for Dida to be benched, f*ckin sad!!!

Bravo G Bravo!
I don't get it, Dida makes mistakes but he's better than Storari... why should he be second to him now?
kurtsimonw
Aug 11 2009, 09:58 AM
That's pathetic on so many levels.
Dida isn't a World class keeper, far from it, but you could put forward a strong debate as to why he should be our #1.. but 3rd string keeper? No way. This then means you're paying millions a year for somebody who isn't even going to be ont he bench. Crazy.
LaPalma
Aug 11 2009, 10:49 AM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 11 2009, 10:49 AM)

I'd rather Milan were not linked with our players! Then again, better to Milan than anywhere else.
Has Ribery really been that good? I saw alot of Bundesliga football when he and Toni first joined and they were great, heard less of him last season yet he seems to be worth even more.
He has been good but he has also been hugely hyped IMO. Fact is though, that Uli Hoeness knows how much he can demand these days. And if someone is willing to pay 40 million € for Berbatov Ribery is worth a lot more.
And yes, the Dida story is pathetic. They should send him to a brazilian club to allow him a proper end of his career. Would be the best option for both sides.
dst
Aug 11 2009, 10:56 AM
I don't get this De Silvestri / Bale thing... the one is a RB, the other is a LB... it seems to me that this is more of a "just sign somebody" situation...
What we need is a left back. If we had a real plan we would have already signed Criscito.
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Aug 11 2009, 12:49 PM)

He has been good but he has also been hugely hyped IMO. Fact is though, that Uli Hoeness knows how much he can demand these days. And if someone is willing to pay 40 million € for Berbatov Ribery is worth a lot more.
And yes, the Dida story is pathetic. They should send him to a brazilian club to allow him a proper end of his career. Would be the best option for both sides.
There's no way Ribery is going to go for "that little" in a transfer window where there have been record-breaking signings...
I don't think Dida wants to go. He's snug as a bug in a rug. I don't blame him, this is great money for someone that's ending his career.
kurtsimonw
Aug 11 2009, 11:03 AM
QUOTE (dst @ Aug 11 2009, 10:56 AM)

He's snug as a bug in a rug.
I'm sorry, but are you mental?
dst
Aug 11 2009, 11:08 AM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 11 2009, 01:03 PM)

I'm sorry, but are you mental?
You should know that by now.
Zed.D
Aug 11 2009, 11:18 AM
LOOOL
Tennie
Aug 11 2009, 11:20 AM
Mediaset is reporting that Milan are working on the recission of Kalac's contract. And that he might be substituted (?) by Monaco keeper Flavio Roma.
Tennie
Aug 11 2009, 11:49 AM
As for the De Silvestri thing, there seems to be some confusion in the press, with reports conflicting. What I think the situation is is this: Milan want to include cash + player (Oddo) while Lazio want either cash + player (abate) or cash (8mln). Bale is apparently being sought for loan-with-option, though part of his economic rights are owned by the same investment firm that owns part of Fabiano's rights.
han2503
Aug 11 2009, 11:58 AM
QUOTE (dst @ Aug 11 2009, 10:56 AM)

He's snug as a bug in a rug
That's like the strangest thing you're ever said. But soo true...
han2503
Aug 11 2009, 12:00 PM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 11 2009, 11:49 AM)

As for the De Silvestri thing, there seems to be some confusion in the press, with reports conflicting. What I think the situation is is this: Milan want to include cash + player (Oddo) while Lazio want either cash + player (abate) or cash (8mln). Bale is apparently being sought for loan-with-option, though part of his economic rights are owned by the same investment firm that owns part of Fabiano's rights.
I'd prefer giving them the 8m then even concidering Abate in this. He's probably our only hope for a youth player to actually even imagine of making it. And If it really came to that we don't have to pay them a cent as we've been offered better money then 8m for Abate
dst
Aug 11 2009, 02:23 PM
Damn we can't even afford to spend 8m on a solid young Italian player with good potential? That's sad.
I rate Di Gennaro higher than Abate but I don't want to see either go.
Tennie
Aug 11 2009, 03:43 PM
Fishdoll's filing this one under 'nonsense story' but Mediaset are reporting that Milan are looking at Fiorentina's Vargas as the wingback purchase.
Calciomercato is also reporting (not sure Fishdoll believes it) that Roma are talking to Milan about bringing Borriello over on loan.
dst
Aug 11 2009, 03:49 PM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 11 2009, 05:43 PM)

Calciomercato is also reporting (not sure Fishdoll believes it) that Roma are talking to Milan about bringing Borriello over on loan.
OK. Give us Motta and Borriello's all yours!!!
Tennie
Aug 11 2009, 03:55 PM
Fishdoll'd accept De Rossi too.
han2503
Aug 11 2009, 03:59 PM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 11 2009, 02:55 PM)

Fishdoll'd accept De Rossi too.
LOL
Fishdoll has unrealistic expectations and rates Boriello quite highly if he thinks he's good enough for a swap with De Rossi
dst
Aug 11 2009, 04:00 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 11 2009, 05:59 PM)

Fishdoll has unrealistic expectations and rates Boriello quite highly if he thinks he's good enough for a swap with De Rossi

You think we'd have to include Kaladze too?
han2503
Aug 11 2009, 04:01 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Aug 11 2009, 03:00 PM)

You think we'd have to include Kaladze too?
LOL
And probably Kalac to really smooth things over, no one can say no to that deal
Dzeko
Aug 11 2009, 04:06 PM
Helo all,
I missed u guys...
I was at Vacataion (I spoke with Essien LOL) i tought many things GREAT AND NEW things will hapend but onlly thing that hapend is Huter, im glad we sign Solid Striker, now i hope we will get rid of Kalac, Dida, Stortari and Kaladze coes they can't play on HIGH level any more. 20 days left untill end of Transfer Market let's see what will B&G cook for us, i hope we will get at least 3 more players so we could be competiv : GK, LB, DM, RW (LW)
FORZA MILAN
dst
Aug 11 2009, 04:08 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 11 2009, 06:01 PM)

And probably Kalac to really smooth things over, no one can say no to that deal
I think with Kaladze it would go like this:
Milan "how much for De Rossi?"
Roma "30 million"
Milan "what if we also give you Kaladze?"
Roma "35 million"
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Seriously though, we should not let Borriello go, we don't have that many forwards. De Rossi is obviously not a realistic target for us since... well, we have no money but I'd be thrilled if we moved for Motta or Antunes.
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@ Dzeko: you truly think we need another DM? [that's defensive midfielder, right?]
Tennie
Aug 11 2009, 04:20 PM
Fishdoll waves hi to Damir! Welcome back!
Unrealistic dreaming aside, Fishdoll'd like either Motta or De Silvestri. Wouldn't mind Shakhtar's Dario Srna either.
Warchant
Aug 11 2009, 05:02 PM
with all this talk of goalkeepers
personally, i believe milan should go after Tim Howard. Probably in the debate of being one of the top 5 goal keepers in the world right now. he's not playing for a world class club and he probably wouldn't break the bank.
he also already has a good partnership with the Gooch as well
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