QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jul 29 2009, 10:46 AM) 
?? ... Hernanes is 24... will that count? (god this under 23 thing is ridiculous!)
I agree with the no over 30s though but surely we must have a few over 23's too
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I agree with the no over 30s though but surely we must have a few over 23's too
diego souza is the person who I think he is refering to but I could be wrong.
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jul 29 2009, 12:41 PM)
diego souza is the person who I think he is refering to but I could be wrong.
Whos is Diego Souza??
The bit about the Brazilian midfielder does NOT appear in any of the Italian versions of Berlusconi's quotes. I suspect it's an embellishment by goal.craps (yet another reason why anything there is NOT trustworthy).
QUOTE (Tennie @ Jul 29 2009, 01:33 PM)
The bit about the Brazilian midfielder does NOT appear in any of the Italian versions of Berlusconi's quotes. I suspect it's an embellishment by goal.craps (yet another reason why anything there is NOT trustworthy).
It's not from Goal.com Fish it's from : http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=46&a=134498
http://transfermarketweb.com/?action=read&idsel=40433
For anything on calciomercato or tuttomercatoweb, it's ALWAYS smart to doublecheck the info somewhere else. They're generally good but not infalliable. And if you look at the original, it's the writer hypothesizing that a young Brazilian can come, not Berlusconi actually SAYING it.
The bit about Brazilians doesn't appear on Gazzetta, Mediaset, or Eurosport italia. Of THOSE 3, I tend to think that Mediaset is probably the most reliable for milan-related news given that Berlusconi owns the company.
The bit about Brazilians doesn't appear on Gazzetta, Mediaset, or Eurosport italia. Of THOSE 3, I tend to think that Mediaset is probably the most reliable for milan-related news given that Berlusconi owns the company.
QUOTE (Tennie @ Jul 29 2009, 11:33 AM)
The bit about the Brazilian midfielder does NOT appear in any of the Italian versions of Berlusconi's quotes. I suspect it's an embellishment by goal.craps (yet another reason why anything there is NOT trustworthy).
Goal.com is the best
elano again being linked
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Milan and Inter are about to wage a battle for Manchester City midfielder Elano, according to British tabloid The Sun.
The report suggests 28-year-old Elano has become the subject of Italian interest. It is said Citizens manager Mark Hughes sees the player as surplus to requirements at Eastlands following a major summer spending spree.
Voices claim the Rossoneri want the Brazilian as a replacement for Kaka, who joined Real Madrid this summer.
The Biscione have also been looking for a midfielder, and the link with Elano comes amid reports claiming Aliaksandr Hleb has rejected a loan move to the San Siro.
Elano will cost around €9 million. Despite the reports in England, neither Milan nor Inter have confirmed any interest in the Brazil star.
The Rossoneri are eager to land a striker and their search for that position continues.
Meanwhile, Inter were linked with Chelsea's Deco, but that move appears to have fizzled out.
Salvatore Landolina, Goal.com
The report suggests 28-year-old Elano has become the subject of Italian interest. It is said Citizens manager Mark Hughes sees the player as surplus to requirements at Eastlands following a major summer spending spree.
Voices claim the Rossoneri want the Brazilian as a replacement for Kaka, who joined Real Madrid this summer.
The Biscione have also been looking for a midfielder, and the link with Elano comes amid reports claiming Aliaksandr Hleb has rejected a loan move to the San Siro.
Elano will cost around €9 million. Despite the reports in England, neither Milan nor Inter have confirmed any interest in the Brazil star.
The Rossoneri are eager to land a striker and their search for that position continues.
Meanwhile, Inter were linked with Chelsea's Deco, but that move appears to have fizzled out.
Salvatore Landolina, Goal.com
I call BS
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 29 2009, 03:07 PM)
I call BS
it is also on mediaset but they are also quoting sun
goal.com > the Sun. FACT!
of topic just read that hleb mite not go to inter and barca will play an additional 4.5 million for ibra i think inter have done some business
yup. Numerous reports (mediaset, eurosport, etc) have him undergoing a medical at German side Stuttgart.
So it's Eto'o + ~54m for Ibra? my god, is it Armageddon?
I think Hleb would make a perfect Seedorf replacement.
Have we signed anyone, even if that's another youngster? I just saw Inter have signed Lucio... I head nothing about it. (I was on vacation that past two weeks).
PS How unlucky is Porty, he's seen his favorite player join two of the clubs he hates the most. The only thing that remains is for Ibra to end his career at Porto!
Have we signed anyone, even if that's another youngster? I just saw Inter have signed Lucio... I head nothing about it. (I was on vacation that past two weeks).
PS How unlucky is Porty, he's seen his favorite player join two of the clubs he hates the most. The only thing that remains is for Ibra to end his career at Porto!
QUOTE (dst @ Jul 29 2009, 06:40 PM)
PS How unlucky is Porty, he's seen his favorite player join two of the clubs he hates the most. The only thing that remains is for Ibra to end his career at Porto!
I actually thought of it when Ibra signed for Barca. (Gone but not forgotten!
)
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jul 29 2009, 06:06 PM)
So it's Eto'o + ~54m for Ibra? my god, is it Armageddon?
heh ... inter before selling ibra and gettin 54m ... already did some good buys ... like lucio .... what about milan ... before and after selling kaka and getting 60m ... they didn't try to think of buying a player that can help us ..... ( oh sorry berluscuni thoughts about 23 years old and under players ... pfffft )
The cugini are, with that outrageous sale, covering about 1/3 of their operating loss for last year (it's in the 150mln range).
QUOTE (Tennie @ Jul 29 2009, 09:28 AM)
The cugini are, with that outrageous sale, covering about 1/3 of their operating loss for last year (it's in the 150mln range).
If it isn't spent that is.
Update: Martins to wolfsburg seems to be pretty much done. The fee is 10M euros. Now if we truly want Dzeko, now is our chance to go for him.
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Milan, Leonardo: "Under 23? It is also Dzeko"
29.07.2009 10.10 di Antonio Vitiello article read 8756 times
On the statements of President Silvio Berlusconi that he would like a couple Milan, with just under 23, Leonardo said: "Now we just under 23? Even Dzeko is under 23, even Cissokho. The important thing is to see what could be done," says the coach of rossoneri. But the Brazilian does not give up easily: "I am not the guy who threw himself down and even children", reports La Gazzetta dello Sport. "I feel with Galliani every day, so as things evolve," concludes Leonardo in Monaco of Bavaria for this evening's friendly against the hosts.
29.07.2009 10.10 di Antonio Vitiello article read 8756 times
On the statements of President Silvio Berlusconi that he would like a couple Milan, with just under 23, Leonardo said: "Now we just under 23? Even Dzeko is under 23, even Cissokho. The important thing is to see what could be done," says the coach of rossoneri. But the Brazilian does not give up easily: "I am not the guy who threw himself down and even children", reports La Gazzetta dello Sport. "I feel with Galliani every day, so as things evolve," concludes Leonardo in Monaco of Bavaria for this evening's friendly against the hosts.
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New interview in Germany's die Welt. Headline: "Wolfsburg's Dzeko Still Dreams of AC Milan."
WELT ONLINE: This time you have to measure yourself against the best teams in Europe.
Dzeko: That's certainly a dream. We work so hard for such highlights. Now to be able to score against teams like Real Madrid and AC Milan... it's the best thing that can happen to a footballer.
WELT ONLINE: Speaking of AC Milan?
Dzeko: That was a good keyword, right?
WELT ONLINE: Admittedly. Recently you had an offer from the Italians and made it clear that you would gladly transfer.
Dzeko: That's where I stand. I've been fascinated by this club since I was a little kid. Why, I don't know, but for me AC Milan always stood for the greater footballing world. That's where I want to go. And now I'm 23 years old and I receive an offer from the club that I've always raved about. It was only honest for me to say: yes, I want to go there.
WELT ONLINE: But Wolfsburg didn't not let you leave. You must be disappointed.
Dzeko: The club had every right to say no. That's how it goes... you don't get everythin you wish for in life. Wolfsburg took me on two years ago and I have a contract here until 2011. I talked with manager Armin Veh and told him that I would like to transfer, and he told me that he had great ambitions here and that he absolutely needed me to achieve them. And so I'm staying. No problem - I'm hardly unsatisfied here.
WELT ONLINE: Other footballers in similar situations find themselves with sudden inexplicable injuries and performance drops.
Dzeko: I would harm both the club and myself with that. Once more: I'm not angry at Wolfsburg and I don't stress myself over it. I'm staying here and trying to play even better next season than in the one before.
WELT ONLINE: When did you have your first contact with AC Milan?
Dzeko: The first came as early as two years ago, but nothing came of it and I went to Wolfsburg. Things became concrete a few days after the end of last season. Then there were talks and the decision from Wolfsburg not to let me go. Now the topic is crossed off.
WELT ONLINE: Definitely?
Dzeko: At least for one year. We'll see what happens then.
WELT ONLINE: The dream of AC Milan is not yet outdreamed?
Dzeko: No, I will always dream it.
WELT ONLINE: And so you will leave Wolfsburg at the latest at the end of 2011?
Dzeko: No, that was never said. My agent is dealing with that in conversations with Wolfsburg about the future.
WELT ONLINE: Perhaps even about a contract extension?
Dzeko: Why not? I don't deny that I feel great in Wolfsburg. In 2011 I'll be 25 years old and will still have a lot in front of me. I would prefer, however, that the talks were completed before the start of the season, so that I could just concentrate on my play.
WELT ONLINE: This time you have to measure yourself against the best teams in Europe.
Dzeko: That's certainly a dream. We work so hard for such highlights. Now to be able to score against teams like Real Madrid and AC Milan... it's the best thing that can happen to a footballer.
WELT ONLINE: Speaking of AC Milan?
Dzeko: That was a good keyword, right?
WELT ONLINE: Admittedly. Recently you had an offer from the Italians and made it clear that you would gladly transfer.
Dzeko: That's where I stand. I've been fascinated by this club since I was a little kid. Why, I don't know, but for me AC Milan always stood for the greater footballing world. That's where I want to go. And now I'm 23 years old and I receive an offer from the club that I've always raved about. It was only honest for me to say: yes, I want to go there.
WELT ONLINE: But Wolfsburg didn't not let you leave. You must be disappointed.
Dzeko: The club had every right to say no. That's how it goes... you don't get everythin you wish for in life. Wolfsburg took me on two years ago and I have a contract here until 2011. I talked with manager Armin Veh and told him that I would like to transfer, and he told me that he had great ambitions here and that he absolutely needed me to achieve them. And so I'm staying. No problem - I'm hardly unsatisfied here.
WELT ONLINE: Other footballers in similar situations find themselves with sudden inexplicable injuries and performance drops.
Dzeko: I would harm both the club and myself with that. Once more: I'm not angry at Wolfsburg and I don't stress myself over it. I'm staying here and trying to play even better next season than in the one before.
WELT ONLINE: When did you have your first contact with AC Milan?
Dzeko: The first came as early as two years ago, but nothing came of it and I went to Wolfsburg. Things became concrete a few days after the end of last season. Then there were talks and the decision from Wolfsburg not to let me go. Now the topic is crossed off.
WELT ONLINE: Definitely?
Dzeko: At least for one year. We'll see what happens then.
WELT ONLINE: The dream of AC Milan is not yet outdreamed?
Dzeko: No, I will always dream it.
WELT ONLINE: And so you will leave Wolfsburg at the latest at the end of 2011?
Dzeko: No, that was never said. My agent is dealing with that in conversations with Wolfsburg about the future.
WELT ONLINE: Perhaps even about a contract extension?
Dzeko: Why not? I don't deny that I feel great in Wolfsburg. In 2011 I'll be 25 years old and will still have a lot in front of me. I would prefer, however, that the talks were completed before the start of the season, so that I could just concentrate on my play.
Wolfy played Mallorca from spain. He scored, here is the goal. dzeko, july 27
Um. The Dzeko thing's been reported repeatedly by more than a couple of people. It's the same interview originally mentioned on Monday.
The translation of the Leonardo thing doesn't make any sense -- got a link to the original?
The translation of the Leonardo thing doesn't make any sense -- got a link to the original?
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http://www.ilsussidiario.net/articolo.aspx?articolo=33313
translation:
It is not certain that the end is not Edin Dzeko the transfer coup of Milan. At least three indicators suggest that the negotiations with the rossoneri is far from being passed. Inannzitutto from Germany have arrived to the latest statements by the boy, from the columns of Die Welt, has launched a kind of appeal: "I want to go to Milan. I received an offer from the club where I dreamed of playing since childhood, for me, the Milan will always be the best team in the world. The company has the right to say no, as I can express my will. "
The second clue comes from Vlado Borozan, prosecutor Ivanovic and consultant market Wolfsburg, where the team plays Dzeko. Questioned yesterday by Corriere dello Sport, a dry application: "The treaty is passed?", The answer was "No".
Third clue. The Wolfsburg continue to look for attackers on the market: first was a step away from NILMA, then finished at Villarreal, now the rumors of the transfer loss in the running for an old acquaintance of Italian football: quell'Oba Oba Martis recently downgraded with Newcastle . If you add to this the statements of Mr Berlusconi, who yesterday said he wanted to buy only the Under 23, here's Edin Dzeko (Class'86) appears to be the ideal investment for the rossoneri.
translation:
It is not certain that the end is not Edin Dzeko the transfer coup of Milan. At least three indicators suggest that the negotiations with the rossoneri is far from being passed. Inannzitutto from Germany have arrived to the latest statements by the boy, from the columns of Die Welt, has launched a kind of appeal: "I want to go to Milan. I received an offer from the club where I dreamed of playing since childhood, for me, the Milan will always be the best team in the world. The company has the right to say no, as I can express my will. "
The second clue comes from Vlado Borozan, prosecutor Ivanovic and consultant market Wolfsburg, where the team plays Dzeko. Questioned yesterday by Corriere dello Sport, a dry application: "The treaty is passed?", The answer was "No".
Third clue. The Wolfsburg continue to look for attackers on the market: first was a step away from NILMA, then finished at Villarreal, now the rumors of the transfer loss in the running for an old acquaintance of Italian football: quell'Oba Oba Martis recently downgraded with Newcastle . If you add to this the statements of Mr Berlusconi, who yesterday said he wanted to buy only the Under 23, here's Edin Dzeko (Class'86) appears to be the ideal investment for the rossoneri.
QUOTE (Tennie @ Jul 29 2009, 10:35 AM)
Um. The Dzeko thing's been reported repeatedly by more than a couple of people. It's the same interview originally mentioned on Monday.
The translation of the Leonardo thing doesn't make any sense -- got a link to the original?
The translation of the Leonardo thing doesn't make any sense -- got a link to the original?
http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en...ww.milannews.it
Fishdoll +1 cookie to blue for the links!
The Martins-to-Wolfsburg thing is around several places (though not noted as finalized yet).
The Leonardo thing was actually a tv interview, part of which I saw (shockingly) on Sky Sports news on FSC. Leonardo's english is quite good.
He's basically saying that it's all well and good to have kids, but you also need champions. He's in regular contact with Galliani so there's no tension between coach & club, etc etc etc.
The Martins-to-Wolfsburg thing is around several places (though not noted as finalized yet).
The Leonardo thing was actually a tv interview, part of which I saw (shockingly) on Sky Sports news on FSC. Leonardo's english is quite good.
He's basically saying that it's all well and good to have kids, but you also need champions. He's in regular contact with Galliani so there's no tension between coach & club, etc etc etc.
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OFFICIAL: Kolo Toure Leaves Arsenal And Signs Four-Year Deal At Manchester City for a fee of 16 M pounds.
a smart idea for arsenal to do? what do you all think about this transfer...?
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After the passing of Peter Crouch (28) to Tottenham, Arsenal remains the only suitor for the Dutch center forward Klaas-Jan Huntelaar (25). According to the London Evening Standard the Gunners have the distinct advantage in team competition for the signature of Madrid.
Lets cross him off the list, he is no longer possible.
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Dembele: "Rest in Alkmaar"
By turning off the dream final of Series A, Moussa Dembele (22) is distributed with the same grit as ever for a new season with Az Alkmaar. The mighty offensive Belgian midfielder said: "The opportunities that I have to start small. There were many contacts with clubs in Italy, even with Milan, but this will not be nothing."
By turning off the dream final of Series A, Moussa Dembele (22) is distributed with the same grit as ever for a new season with Az Alkmaar. The mighty offensive Belgian midfielder said: "The opportunities that I have to start small. There were many contacts with clubs in Italy, even with Milan, but this will not be nothing."
cross him off too.
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jul 29 2009, 08:00 PM)
a smart idea for arsenal to do? what do you all think about this transfer...?
I think it's a terrible deal for Arsenal, I don't see how it could be good for them. If things remain as they are, City will almost surely finish above the Gooners.
Huntelaar would be a great choice for attack I think but they also need a great defender now and of course they still HAVE TO find a solid DMF.
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Lets cross him off the list, he is no longer possible.
I think it's only a matter of us wanting him. remember we were supposed to be the first club to be informed of any outgoing Madrid player as part of the Kaka deal.
QUOTE (dst @ Jul 29 2009, 09:54 PM)
I think it's a terrible deal for Arsenal, I don't see how it could be good for them. If things remain as they are, City will almost surely finish above the Gooners.
That'd be a sad day for me personally.
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jul 29 2009, 05:24 PM)
I think it's only a matter of us wanting him. remember we were supposed to be the first club to be informed of any outgoing Madrid player as part of the Kaka deal.
are u 100 percent sure abt this clause/deal
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jul 29 2009, 08:57 PM)
are u 100 percent sure abt this clause/deal
I clearly remember Galliani saying this on the official website. but whether to believe him is up to you
@ CMF
I have to add this though that my impression is that this was more like a gentlemen's agreement rather than a clause in the deal.
I have to add this though that my impression is that this was more like a gentlemen's agreement rather than a clause in the deal.
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jul 29 2009, 05:34 PM)
@ CMF
I have to add this though that my impression is that this was more like a gentlemen's agreement rather than a clause in the deal.
I have to add this though that my impression is that this was more like a gentlemen's agreement rather than a clause in the deal.
yea i get what u mean but then sadly we wont be able to afford madrid players other than RVN
some 26 year old austiran marc janko being linked with us it is on milanews
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jul 29 2009, 06:31 PM)
I clearly remember Galliani saying this on the official website. but whether to believe him is up to you
its obviously only a gentleman's agreement, nothing legal... otherwise we'd have gotten something by now
on an unrelated note, i'm watching milan/bayern(audi cup) with my bro who happens to be a bayern supporter, now we've got a bet, its 1/2time &we'r a goal down, our boys' performances are also quite uninspiring. i might as well hand him the cash now, even though we normally flog bayern i'm not too sure bout this one.
QUOTE (ganney @ Jul 29 2009, 09:44 PM)
its obviously only a gentleman's agreement, nothing legal... otherwise we'd have gotten something by now
on an unrelated note, i'm watching milan/bayern(audi cup) with my bro who happens to be a bayern supporter, now we've got a bet, its 1/2time &we'r a goal down, our boys' performances are also quite uninspiring. i might as well hand him the cash now, even though we normally flog bayern i'm not too sure bout this one.
on an unrelated note, i'm watching milan/bayern(audi cup) with my bro who happens to be a bayern supporter, now we've got a bet, its 1/2time &we'r a goal down, our boys' performances are also quite uninspiring. i might as well hand him the cash now, even though we normally flog bayern i'm not too sure bout this one.
Marc Janko missed last three penalties for Salzburg, its not a class player i bet Zigoni is class for him as Austrian league is not at the lvl we play...
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jul 29 2009, 01:31 PM)
I clearly remember Galliani saying this on the official website. but whether to believe him is up to you
I also remember this - If to acutally belive what Galliani said is completely different matter.
He could have possibly made this up in his head. He probably thinks that football is like life and it's only morally right of Madrid to do so
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jul 29 2009, 01:34 PM)
@ CMF
I have to add this though that my impression is that this was more like a gentlemen's agreement rather than a clause in the deal.
I have to add this though that my impression is that this was more like a gentlemen's agreement rather than a clause in the deal.
I also think it may be along these lines if any thing... nothing concrete or in writting.
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jul 29 2009, 01:59 PM)
yea i get what u mean but then sadly we wont be able to afford madrid players other than RVN
Damn - he isn't under 23. we best forget signing Mardid players then!
QUOTE (Dzeko @ Jul 29 2009, 04:43 PM)
Marc Janko missed last three penalties for Salzburg, its not a class player i bet Zigoni is class for him as Austrian league is not at the lvl we play...
Thanks for saying your piece.
If as you have said about him is infact true - then I think we can all agree its best if we stay away from him
btw, I think the replied to the wrong post. You quoted ganney and not CMF.
QUOTE (Tennie @ Jul 29 2009, 04:45 PM)
Fishdoll +1 cookie to blue for the links!
The Martins-to-Wolfsburg thing is around several places (though not noted as finalized yet).
The Leonardo thing was actually a tv interview, part of which I saw (shockingly) on Sky Sports news on FSC. Leonardo's english is quite good.
He's basically saying that it's all well and good to have kids, but you also need champions. He's in regular contact with Galliani so there's no tension between coach & club, etc etc etc.
The Martins-to-Wolfsburg thing is around several places (though not noted as finalized yet).
The Leonardo thing was actually a tv interview, part of which I saw (shockingly) on Sky Sports news on FSC. Leonardo's english is quite good.
He's basically saying that it's all well and good to have kids, but you also need champions. He's in regular contact with Galliani so there's no tension between coach & club, etc etc etc.
Heya , yeah Leonardo's english is very good as fluent as his Italian is. He was a paundit on BBC Sport - Match of the day programme a few seasons back commentating with a few other retired players about the days premier league action.
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Probably bulls***. But who knows. It would be weird indeed if we did sign him, but like I said earlier G cannot be predicted. This could be a smokescreen for dzeko or dzeko could have been a smokescreen for him...
QUOTE (ganney @ Jul 30 2009, 12:14 AM)
its obviously only a gentleman's agreement, nothing legal... otherwise we'd have gotten something by now
I think we will have any of Madrid's outgoing players if we actually want to, and meet their demands - which cannot be very high. problem is we apparently don't want any of them. they're too good and too expensive.
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Jul 30 2009, 05:45 AM)
Damn - he isn't under 23. we best forget signing Mardid players then!
this under23 thing makes me smile in this hard times (which for me personally is not only about football). Berlu is a big laugh!
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Update: Elano seems closer to Milan as the two Milanese giants will go head to head for this Brazilian's contract. His Estimated price tag is set at a minimum of 15 M euros by Manchester City.
go to inter please. Lets sign hernanes for 10m and be done with the mid department.
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jul 30 2009, 10:46 AM)
Probably bulls***. But who knows. It would be weird indeed if we did sign him, but like I said earlier G cannot be predicted. This could be a smokescreen for dzeko or dzeko could have been a smokescreen for him...
Higuain? he seems to be part of the new Madrid plans... I doubt it, but wouldn't really mind to see him at Milan.
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jul 30 2009, 12:24 AM)
Higuain? he seems to be part of the new Madrid plans... I doubt it, but wouldn't really mind to see him at Milan.
I think they want to get rid of him and keep negredo. Originally they were going to offload negredo and hunty so that would leave higuain as back up. But now it seems with negredo staying, the chances of higuain leaving have increased.
Real's strike force:
Raul
Benzema
Negredo
Huntelaar
Higuain
Van Nistelrooy
young players
Too many.
but...
I think its just rumors to calm the fans down. After yesterday's defeat they need to do something, even if its lying it will calm people down. So saying we bid 25 m for higuain may not be realistic or true but it will do its purpose.
I can't take the wait!
When will the first real 'signing' arrive? ...One better arrive!
More over I hope I like our choices or it will just add to the pain and anger!
...
F*vK!
When will the first real 'signing' arrive? ...One better arrive!
More over I hope I like our choices or it will just add to the pain and anger!
...
F*vK!
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jul 30 2009, 07:23 AM)
go to inter please. Lets sign hernanes for 10m and be done with the mid department.
i'll be really pissed if we shun our chance to get hernanes
OFFICIAL: Elano Leaves Manchester City For Galatasaray
LMAO beaten again by a turkish club, pathetic!
LMAO beaten again by a turkish club, pathetic!
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jul 30 2009, 07:21 AM)
I think we will have any of Madrid's outgoing players if we actually want to, and meet their demands - which cannot be very high. problem is we apparently don't want any of them. they're too good and too expensive.
this under23 thing makes me smile in this hard times (which for me personally is not only about football). Berlu is a big laugh!
this under23 thing makes me smile in this hard times (which for me personally is not only about football). Berlu is a big laugh!yeah i lost the bet, but 4-1 is humiliating, we've pretty much lost to everybody.
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