Zed.D
Jun 11 2009, 10:29 AM
God please whoever it is, don't let it be Luca Toni...
Real will 99.99% sign Ronaldo by the way.
http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=...;newsid=6634291Edit: sorry CMF I didn't see your post!
CrazyMilanFan
Jun 11 2009, 11:19 AM
Abate Torino-Milan 30%-70%
Antonelli Parma-Milan possibile rinnovo
Ardemagni Triestina-Milan 100% - 0%
Astori Cagliari - Milan 55% - 45%
Coppola Atalanta - Milan 100% - 0%
Di Gennaro Genoa - Milan 40% - 60%
Paixao Livorno - Milan possibile rinnovo
Offredi Pro Sesto - Milan 80% - 20%
Perticone Livorno - Milan 65% - 35%
Paloschi Parma - Milan 50% - 50%, possible che si vada alle buste
All our co-owned players and where they will end up according to milannews out of the list it seems abate and astori ( defender) are the only ones whihc we are looking at
han2503
Jun 11 2009, 12:03 PM
I don't think Milan should rush here. We should look at all the options.
Imo, first priorities should be given to a CB, striker, LB and a midfielder
Dzeko is not our only option, there's Benzema we could look into, imagine him along side Pato. I think they would work very well. Concidering that is will be Dinho now who's going to flank the strikers I think we need fast strikers up there. I don't think it can get any faster then those 2.
A CB is an issue we connot avoid any longer. We've just lost Paolo, we don't know what will happen with Nesta. CB should be our first priority, ahead of the striker imo.
A midfielder. I can't help but think what our management were thinking when they chose to just let Yoann go without a fight. They knew that they were going to sell Kaka and even then they couldn't assure him of a starting position??!!! I mean what the hell??? So now we're rejecting one of the biggest talents in Europe so that Seedorf can play every week?

And why didn't we ask Real for Sneijder or VdV (Sneijder being the first option)? Sneijder would finally make Seedorf sit on the bench and play in the attacking mid role if neccissary.
Another fullback is neccissary also, Zambro can play on either side, but Janku cannot be a starter anymore, he's simply not good enough
CrazyMilanFan
Jun 11 2009, 01:59 PM
gallaini has announced that mattioni,sheva and senderos wont be reddemed..... he briefly commented on dzeko that we will see how it processes.... will be long intersting market for Milan and yes i have no idea why we didnt include any dutch midfielder in kaka deal
Zed.D
Jun 11 2009, 02:14 PM
What does reddemed mean?
Zed.D
Jun 11 2009, 02:47 PM
Nevermind.
It's a good move IMO, letting Mattioni, Senderos and Sheva leave. I would have kept Senderos as the 4th CB option but we surely can find someone as good, and cheaper (or even better!).
Zed.D
Jun 11 2009, 02:57 PM
Finally Galliani says something regarding the trabsfers!
QUOTE
ADRIANO GALLIANI: "Il Milan sarà assolutissimamente competitivo"11/06/2009
MILANO - Così Adriano Galliani, Aministratore delegato del Milan, oggi in Lega Calcio: "Il Milan sarà assolutissimamente competitivo. Per ogni giocatore che parte arriverà un sostituto adeguato. È partito Maldini, è arrivato Thiago Silva. È partito Kakà, arriverà un giocatore importante. Il Milan non sta affatto smobilitando. Fino ad oggi, a parte altri che hanno giocato meno, sono partiti giocatori come Emerson e come Senderos, Shevchenko e Mattioni che non sono stati riscattati".
Google translate:
http://translate.google.com/translate_t#it...scattati%22.%0AADRIANO GALLIANI: "Per ogni giocatore..."11/06/2009
MILANO - Ancora Adriano Galliani, oggi in Lega Calcio: "Per ogni giocatore che parte, arriverà al Milan un sostituto adeguato. I nostri due extracomunitari per la prossima stagione saranno Thiago Silva e Dzeko, nel caso in cui Dzeko dovesse arrivare".
Google translate:
http://translate.google.com/translate_t#it...e%20arrivare%22.
gal_kenny
Jun 11 2009, 03:08 PM
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jun 11 2009, 01:47 PM)

Nevermind.
It's a good move IMO, letting Mattioni, Senderos and Sheva leave. I would have kept Senderos as the 4th CB option but we surely can find someone as good, and cheaper (or even better!).
Santacroce n Zapata...Thank God Sheva has gone...now we'll be forced to get one striker and Kaka's replacement...Galliani said he likes Cassano...it seems like he'll arrive but as milan said they're tryna get Dzeko first..
gal_kenny
Jun 11 2009, 03:09 PM
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jun 11 2009, 01:57 PM)

Finally Galliani says something regarding the trabsfers!
So Dzeko and Thiago silva would take up our non-eu spot next season...
CrazyMilanFan
Jun 11 2009, 03:23 PM
QUOTE (gal_kenny @ Jun 11 2009, 03:09 PM)

So Dzeko and Thiago silva would take up our non-eu spot next season...
that is what keirrson agents thinks as well interestingly
han2503
Jun 11 2009, 03:26 PM
I don't agree that Thiago Silva should be Maldini's replacement. He's not good enough, atleast not yet anyway.
And it's not just replacing Maldini, but the bigger picture should be looked at here. Nesta is so injury prone that we have to concider him as a bonus rather then a regular team player so we should think about getting a top class center back along with Thiago Silva.
Are they actually saying that Milan will have a central defensive pairing consisting of Thiago Silva and Favalli with Nesta maybe making an appearance or 2? Because I don't know about you lot but that does not really instill a lot of confidence in me. And shouldn't it be time for Favalli to hang up his boots, this is getting really ridiculous now.
Zed.D
Jun 11 2009, 03:44 PM
QUOTE
ADRIANO GALLIANI: "Milan will be absolutely competitive"
6/11/2009
MILAN - Here's what Adriano Galliani, Milan's delegate administrator, said today at the Lega Calcio: "Milan will absolutely be competitive. For each player that leaves an adequate replacement will be found. Maldini left, Thiago Silva arrived. Kaká left, an important player will arrive. Milan are not dismantling. Until today, aside from others who didn't play much, players like Emerson and Senderos have left, as well as Shevchenko and Mattioni who haven't been re-claimed."
ADRIANO GALLIANI: "For each player..."
6/11/2009
MILAN - More from Adriano Galliani, today at the Lega Calcio: "For each player that goes, Milan will have an adequate replacement. Our two non-EU players will be Thiago Silva and Dzeko, if Dzeko comes."
Milan will be absolutely competitive... hmm... that goes right in my sig! I want to see if he's lived up to his words once the transfer window closed.
Habitant
Jun 11 2009, 04:24 PM
this is why galliani is an idiot.
milan wasnt competitive enough last season. now -kaka -malidni i'm wondering how will he maintaining this level of mediocrity let alone raise our silverware hopes.
keep in mind players like R20, kaladze, seedorf will only get slower and lazier and older and less motivated and with recent departures they take on more important roles (the idea sickens me). They haven't been up to the task in the previous seasons, then how can we even fathom resting most of our hopes on them now?!?!?
I'll bet anything this so-called important player is dzeko

would be an excellent signing but he is no kaka replacement.
CrazyMilanFan
Jun 11 2009, 04:24 PM
i think dzeko is very likly bcoz he is mentioned on acmilan.com if we can get cassano after that then our attack linup will be fully complete and seedorf will defintly be on bench
Jack Sparrow
Jun 11 2009, 05:05 PM
Cassano? Can Leo handle this guy? Cassano and Rino on the same team??!!
But he's Italian.

And a spot on the left did open up for us, with Ricky's departure.
TriniKing_CE
Jun 11 2009, 05:48 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 11 2009, 10:26 AM)

I don't agree that Thiago Silva should be Maldini's replacement. He's not good enough, atleast not yet anyway.
And it's not just replacing Maldini, but the bigger picture should be looked at here. Nesta is so injury prone that we have to consider him as a bonus rather then a regular team player so we should think about getting a top class center back along with Thiago Silva.
Are they actually saying that Milan will have a central defensive pairing consisting of Thiago Silva and Favalli with Nesta maybe making an appearance or 2? Because I don't know about you lot but that does not really instill a lot of confidence in me. And shouldn't it be time for Favalli to hang up his boots, this is getting really ridiculous now.
...+
Plenty
TriniKing_CE
Jun 11 2009, 05:52 PM
MILAN - Here's what Adriano Galliani, Milan's delegate administrator, said today at the Lega Calcio: "Milan will absolutely be competitive. For each player that leaves an adequate replacement will be found. Maldini left, Thiago Silva arrived. Kaká left, an important player will arrive. Milan are not dismantling. Until today, aside from others who didn't play much, players like Emerson and Senderos have left, as well
as Shevchenko and Mattioni who haven't been re-claimed."
...So we still have Sheva and Mattioni?
Emerson & Senderos have left [...oh how simple words just seem to make you overjoyed]

EDIT :
Regarding Sheva and Mattioni question...
Never mind... in other reports I am now seeing that they have indeed left as well.
TriniKing_CE
Jun 11 2009, 05:54 PM
Stupid Interent... DP
TriniKing_CE
Jun 11 2009, 06:17 PM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 11 2009, 12:05 PM)

Cassano? Can Leo handle this guy? Cassano and Rino on the same team??!!
But he's Italian.

And a spot on the left did open up for us, with Ricky's departure.
Gattuso may seem to be an aggressive player on the pitch. But I can hardly recall and incident in which he has made a spetical of himself other than there [...ie. the dressing room or otherwise]
Cassano possibly becoming a rossonero...

Nice!
TriniKing_CE
Jun 11 2009, 06:21 PM
Seems very likely that Ibrahimovic would leave inter:
Sweden and Inter Milan forward Zlatan Ibrahimovic told Swedish TV station TV4 : "I already know where I will play next season, but I am not going to say it now ....".
As much as I would love for him to leave inter, this would br considered a blow of Serie A.
TriniKing_CE
Jun 11 2009, 06:32 PM
Similar to what CMF posted earlier:
Here are the numbers of young seasonal rossoneri who have experience in other clubs:
Ignazio Abate (classe: 86, stato: comproprietà con il Torino, ruolo: esterno di centrocampo): 25 presenze e 2 gol con il Torino. Ignazio Abate (Class: 86, status: owned by the Turin, position: midfield external): 25 appearances and 2 goals with the Turin.
Davide Di Gennaro (classe: 88, stato: comproprietà con il Genoa, ruolo: trequartista): 24 presenze e 1 gol con la Reggina. Davide Di Gennaro (Class: 88, status: owned by Genoa, role: trequartista): 24 appearances and 1 goal by Reggina.
Davide Astori (classe: 87, stato: comproprietà con il Cagliari, ruolo: difensore centrale): 10 presenze con il Cagliari. David Astor (Class: 87, State: Cagliari with the ownership, position: Central defender): 10 appearances with Cagliari.
Alberto Paloschi (classe: 90, stato: comproprietà con il Parma, ruolo: attaccante): 39 presenze e 11 gol con il Parma. Alberto Paloschi (Class: 90, status: owned by Parma, position: striker): 39 appearances and 11 goals with Parma.
Willy Aubameyang (classe:87, stato: prestito, ruolo: attaccante): 30 presenze e 1 gol con l'Avellino. Willy Aubameyang (Class: 87, State: loan, position: striker): 30 appearances and 1 goal with Avellino.
Matteo Ardemagni (classe: 87, stato: comproprietà con la Triestina, ruolo: attaccante): 25 presenze e 2 gol con la Triestina. Matthew Ardemagni (Class: 87, State: ownership with Triestina, position: striker): 25 appearances and 2 goals with Triestina.
Luca Antonelli (classe: 87, stato: comproprietà con il Parma, ruolo: terzino): 14 presenze nel Parma. Luca Antonelli (Class: 87, status: owned by Parma, position: quarterback): 14 appearances in Parma.
Daniel Offredi (classe: 88, stato: comproprietà con la Pro Sesto, ruolo: portiere): 29 presenze con la Pro Sesto. Daniel Offredi (Class: 88, status: owned by Pro Sesto, position: goalkeeper): 29 appearances with the Pro Sesto.
Simone Malacarne (classe: 89, stato: ceduto alla Cremonese, ruolo: centrocampista): 29 presenze e 1 gol con il Pizzighettone. Simone Malacarne (class: 89 Status: sold to Cremonese, position: midfielder): 29 appearances and 1 goal with Pizzighettone.
Matteo Bruscagin (classe 89, stato: ceduto alla Pro Sesto, ruolo: difensore): 0 presenze con il Monza e 12 con il Pizzighettone. Matthew Bruscagin (Class 89, was: sold to Pro Sesto, position: defender): 0 appearances with the Monza and 12 with the Pizzighettone.
Patrick Kalambay (classe: 84, stato: prestito, ruolo: centrocampista): 20 presenze e 3 gol con il Como. Patrick Kalambay (Class: 84, State: loan, position: midfielder): 20 appearances and 3 goals with Como.
Matteo Lunati (classe:87, stato: prestito, ruolo: centrocampista): 2 presenze con il Como. Matteo Lunati (Class: 87, State: loan, position: midfielder): 2 appearances with Como.
Riccardo Caraglia (classe:89, stato: prestito, ruolo: centrocampista): 4 presenze nel Pizzighettone. Riccardo Caraglio (Class: 89, State: loan, position: midfielder): 4 appearances in Pizzighettone.
Kingsley Umunegbu (classe: 89, stato: prestito, ruolo: trequartista): 2 presenze nella Salernitana e 4 nel Portosummaga. Kingsley Umunegbu (Class: 89, State: loan, role: trequartista): 2 Salernitana in attendance and 4 in Portosummaga.
Andrea Cosner (classe:89, stato: ceduto alla Reggiana a titolo definitivo con accordo di partecipazione, ruolo: difensore): 2 presenze con la Reggiana e 1 con il Bassano. Andrea Cosner (Class: 89, State: Reggiana succumbed to a final agreement with the involvement, role: defender): 2 appearances with Reggiana and 1 with the Bassano.
Emanuele Orlandi (classe:88, stato: prestito, ruolo: trequartista): 27 presenze nel Carpenedolo. Emanuela Orlandi (Class: 88, State: loan, role: trequartista): 27 appearances in Carpenedolo.
Elia Legati (classe:86, stato: prestito, ruolo: difensore): 0 presenze nel Monaco e 9 nel Novara. Elijah Legates (Class: 86, State: loan, position: defender): 0 appearances in Monaco and 9 in Novara.
MizNelson
Jun 11 2009, 06:50 PM
Emerson left the club over a month ago. Not sure why it's making news now.
Zed.D
Jun 11 2009, 07:16 PM
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Jun 11 2009, 08:51 PM)

As much as I would love for him to leave inter, this would br considered a blow of Serie A.
So be it. Kaka's departure has been the biggest blow Serie A could have received. at least if Zlatan goes the rest of the league's top teams will have a tiny chance to win the title.
TriniKing_CE
Jun 11 2009, 07:17 PM
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jun 11 2009, 02:16 PM)

So be it. Kaka's departure has been the biggest blow Serie A could have received. at least if Zlatan goes the rest of the league's top teams will have a tiny chance to win the title.
Who said they wouldn't replace him?!
TriniKing_CE
Jun 11 2009, 07:21 PM
Haven't yet seen it anywhere else as yet [I think it may be a bit misleading]
Real Madrid have signed Cristiano Ronaldo from Manchester United for a world record breaking sum of 93 million Euros.
...from transfermarketweb.com
Anyway, whether it's true already or not, eventually it will be.
MizNelson
Jun 11 2009, 07:24 PM
It even made ESPN.com, so it's spreading.
CrazyMilanFan
Jun 11 2009, 07:27 PM
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Jun 11 2009, 07:21 PM)

Haven't yet seen it anywhere else as yet [I think it may be a bit misleading]
Real Madrid have signed Cristiano Ronaldo from Manchester United for a world record breaking sum of 93 million Euros.
...from transfermarketweb.com
Anyway, whether it's true already or not, eventually it will be.
try United official website
Zed.D
Jun 11 2009, 07:29 PM
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Jun 11 2009, 10:47 PM)

Who said they wouldn't replace him?!

Who said we wouldn't replace Kaka?
(...Who am I kidding?

)
TriniKing_CE
Jun 11 2009, 07:50 PM
Bluesummers
Jun 11 2009, 08:40 PM
Okay, transfers so far:
Out:
Maldini
Emerson
Senderos
Mattioni
Shevchenko
Kaka
Gourcuff
In:
Oddo
Wage bill per week, decrease:
175k=kaka
30k= Maldini
77k=emerson
35k=senderos
10k=mattioni
75k=shevchenko
40k=gourcuff
Comes to a total around 20 million euros decreased from our wage bill from these departures.
MizNelson
Jun 11 2009, 08:48 PM
Not sure why Oddo was brought back. I guess this essentially means the only holdovers in our Extreme Makeover: Milan Edition will be predominantly Italian.
Anyway, the Bald Ego has said that we aren't interested in Cassano, but we are in Mexes as wel as Dzeko.
Bluesummers
Jun 11 2009, 08:53 PM
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Jun 11 2009, 01:48 PM)

Not sure why Oddo was brought back. I guess this essentially means the only holdovers in our Extreme Makeover: Milan Edition will be predominantly Italian.
Anyway, the Bald Ego has said that we aren't interested in Cassano, but we are in Mexes as wel as Dzeko.
He was on loan and bayern didn't buy him so he had to come back. I don't think hes staying though.
Bluesummers
Jun 11 2009, 08:55 PM
If we can sell seedorf or get rid of him somehow, that would save us a huge 77k on our wage bill. Give dida a 2 year contract and lower his wage bill that would save us some trouble. Sell Kaladze as well thats another 77k.
TriniKing_CE
Jun 11 2009, 09:15 PM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jun 11 2009, 03:53 PM)

He was on loan and bayern didn't buy him so he had to come back. I don't think hes staying though.
+1
If he does stay I won't mind though as long as he is used as backup, unless he proves worthy of getting starts.
TriniKing_CE
Jun 11 2009, 09:17 PM
QUOTE
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jun 11 2009, 03:40 PM)

Wage bill per week, decrease:
175k=kaka
30k= Maldini
77k=emerson
35k=senderos
10k=mattioni
75k=shevchenko
40k=gourcuff
Comes to a total around 20 million euros decreased from our wage bill from these departures.
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jun 11 2009, 03:55 PM)

If we can sell seedorf or get rid of him somehow, that would save us a huge 77k on our wage bill. Give dida a 2 year contract and lower his wage bill that would save us some trouble. Sell Kaladze as well thats another 77k.
Where do you guys get an accurate figure of all these wages??
TriniKing_CE
Jun 11 2009, 11:57 PM
Apparently mediaset is linking us to Arsenal's Gallas... again!
whoarethepatriots
Jun 12 2009, 12:49 AM
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Jun 11 2009, 09:17 PM)

Where do you guys get an accurate figure of all these wages??

Football Manager
gal_kenny
Jun 12 2009, 01:24 AM
Don't worry that's how the summer is like..when we're looking for players be it attackers, midfielders, or defenders, the media links us with everyone...I'm 100% sure Gallas wouldn't even smell here...senderos has gone back n no one would come in his place
Habitant
Jun 12 2009, 01:54 AM
QUOTE (gal_kenny @ Jun 12 2009, 12:24 AM)

Don't worry that's how the summer is like..when we're looking for players be it attackers, midfielders, or defenders, the media links us with everyone...I'm 100% sure Gallas wouldn't even smell here...senderos has gone back n no one would come in his place
btw we cant have hernanes felipe melo, dzeko cuz those three arre non-eus + we have thiago
gal_kenny
Jun 12 2009, 02:22 AM
i thought melo had an eu passport
Habitant
Jun 12 2009, 03:29 AM
QUOTE (gal_kenny @ Jun 12 2009, 01:22 AM)

i thought melo had an eu passport
oh maybe he does, but thats still 3 non-eus
TriniKing_CE
Jun 12 2009, 05:20 AM
QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Jun 11 2009, 07:49 PM)

Football Manager


Tell me your kidding?!
red
Jun 12 2009, 05:38 AM
I watch a lot of Sampdoria games and Cassano is milan material. However, Cassano and R80 cannot play in the same team. Both tend to drift down the left wing. In terms of movement off the ball, I'd take Cassano over present R80. Heck, I'd sell R80 for even 10 million euros.
If he is going to stay, I hope he rediscovers his touch and maintains an athletic body.
CrazyMilanFan
Jun 12 2009, 07:29 AM
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Jun 12 2009, 05:20 AM)


Tell me your kidding?!

i dont know if blue got them from that but FM figure are quite accurate
CrazyMilanFan
Jun 12 2009, 07:30 AM
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Jun 11 2009, 11:57 PM)

Apparently mediaset is linking us to Arsenal's Gallas... again!

if we give kaladze to wolfburg in dzeko deal then it is ok if we replace kaladze with gallas imo
Zed.D
Jun 12 2009, 07:41 AM
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jun 12 2009, 11:00 AM)

if we give kaladze to wolfburg in dzeko deal then it is ok if we replace kaladze with gallas imo
Agreed. I never thought he was as a terribly bad defender as some seem to think. I think he'd be an improvement over Senderos, Kaladze and perhaps Bonera.
Bluesummers
Jun 12 2009, 07:42 AM
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jun 12 2009, 12:41 AM)

Agreed. I never thought he was as a terribly bad defender as some seem to think. I think he'd be an improvement over Senderos, Kaladze and perhaps Bonera.
agreed. We need to sign somebody to cover the back. I''d welcome gallas.
han2503
Jun 12 2009, 08:12 AM
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Jun 11 2009, 08:48 PM)

Anyway, the Bald Ego has said that we aren't interested in Cassano, but we are in Mexes as wel as Dzeko.
Finally some good moves, let's see if anything materializes out of this. I'd say Mexes woud be the top CB we'd need along siide Nesta/Thiago.
And Dzeko and Pato would make a great pairing as Dzeko is a true target man. Something we haven't had in a while.
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jun 11 2009, 08:55 PM)

If we can sell seedorf or get rid of him somehow, that would save us a huge 77k on our wage bill. Give dida a 2 year contract and lower his wage bill that would save us some trouble. Sell Kaladze as well thats another 77k.
This is what really gets to me. We're paying these ridiculously high wages for players that shouldn't be on the team, let alone earning that much, and instead we go and sell Kaka. I'm just baffled.
QUOTE (Habitant @ Jun 12 2009, 01:54 AM)

btw we cant have hernanes felipe melo, dzeko cuz those three arre non-eus + we have thiago
We can have one of them. We've got Thiago plus another non EU spot open.
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jun 12 2009, 07:30 AM)

if we give kaladze to wolfburg in dzeko deal then it is ok if we replace kaladze with gallas imo
I can't see our management actually using their brains on this. We'll probably pay a ridiculously high ammount in the end or just pull out of negotiations
Bluesummers
Jun 12 2009, 08:41 AM
QUOTE
Dzeko is pushing: "I want to go to Milan"
Edin Dzeko was set: he wants to come to Milan.The Bosnian striker has already found an agreement with the company at the Via Turati happened in Sarajevo between the father and the player Adriano Galliani.
Bluesummers
Jun 12 2009, 08:42 AM
QUOTE
A talk about is David Beckham, by the withdrawal of British National, where he declared, to the Setanta Sports News that "I'll be back with Galaxy to finish the season in December and see where to go, at Milan or somewhere else, I have to wait and see , but my staff knows that I love playing football. "
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