Ah you should know when I'm joking already.

When I said that I was joking. Partly...

Oh, were you? sorry! but we (I mean Me vs. Anti-Madridistas!) had a similar debate some time ago...

No.


It got bad at mid season, but when the pressure was on the coach, the players stepped up to his defense and backed their talk on the field, so as of right now, i'm hoping Ancelotti dsn't take the past criticism too seriously and stays with milan

It was the same back then, I'm not one to say these things seriously and what does stupid mean in this case anyway? I'm just expressing my distaste for the image Real have been projecting over the past 15 years or so.

What have the fans got to do with that? yes, Marca and AS are a disgrace, Madrid management have been more like a bunch of clowns, but I for one will always exclude the fans and the players from this. can't help it, don't think they're all evil.

Yes, but probably 50% of the fans Madrid have now are the ones who are their because the Madrid management bought into the image instead of the football. Let's not forget why they buy the players they buy

Long before some Real managers started to create this 'image' buy the fans into supporting Real they were an extremely popular club, weren't they? I can't believe that 50%, it's gotta be much less than that!

There are a lot of Madrid jerseys and other apparel seen out here. Meh. To me, it's merely the equivalent of being among the other sheep wearing LeBron or Kobe jerseys.

I don't blame the fans for what the Real management does, I blame them for other stuff. Like booing their players and Capello when they were still running for the championship (which they eventually won) because the football they played was not attractive enough for them... for things like these I don't like them either.


edit: So apparently Galliani and Ancelotti were in London last night to begin talks for Adebayor. Usually, when we go public, it is to cover another move...

Out of curiosity, it is said that Atalanta offered some cash for Pippo. Saying how he is 36, i was wondering how seriously you guys think they should take the offer?

Well, given that Pippo said no in an interview, not very.

ummmmm Il_diavolo est con
Ok so new question to the members, with everyone playing well atm (or just about) who do we sell this summer?

To be honost I think it would take a really large pile of money to get the board to sell Pippo. He might be 36, but he's on top of his game at the moment. He has never been a physical player, he's never relied on strength nor speed, he's only ever relied on his 'smarts', and that doesn't decrease with age. If we ignore the fact that he can't play two games a week anymore, then I'd say that Superpippo haven't ever been in a better form than what he is now. I see no reason why he couldn't play at least two more seasons.

We won't sell Pippo coz Pippo said he won't leave,and wants to retire in Milan.

GUYS SAMIR HANDANOVIC WANTS OUT.
HE'S SLOVENIAN, I'M HALF SLOVENIAN
I LOVE MILAN, IT'S NO SECRET THEY HAVE BEE LOOKING AT YOUNGER KEEPERS (24)
the only Slovejian worthy of Milan IMO

Fishdoll likes Handanovic, mtl. Wouldn't mind seeing him at all.

In other news, tuttomercatoweb is reporting that Milan have approached Genoa about Milito. (part of me suspects that, if it's true, it may be to annoy the cugini as much as anything)

They're also reporting that Ibrahimovic has put his house in Milan up for sale, which they take to be a sure sign he's leaving.

There's a long editorial/article on Milannews tonight about Milan players on loan and what's likely to happen to them. I'm going to condense it here. It's pretty interesting.

The 11 On Loan

#11 Marco Storari
Didn't find the space he hoped for at Fiorentina and they're not likely to buy him. Hard to see him staying at Milanello even with Abbiati's injury. Could be used as part of a co-ownership deal, possibly in a trade for Marchetti.

#10 Willy Aubemeyang
One of the biggest flops of the last Primavera. Went to Avellino and had a disaster of a year, only scoring his first goal last week. Little hope for a high profile career. Most likely he'll end up playing in Switzerland like his older brother Catilina.

#9 Luca Antonelli
Does well when fielded at Parma and well liked by their management and fans. Logical to think that he could end up sold to Parma as part of another deal between Ghirardi and Galliani. Not a phenomenon but a good solid player.

#8 Massimo Oddo
Bayern isn't even joking about keeping him. One of the worst buys made by Galliani and the transfer to Bayern had implications: the hope that Milan would find a home for someone ready to pay the high salary of a world champion. Lyon has shown interest in the past, as has Fiorentina.

#7 Davide Astori
Pretty much unknown until a few days ago until Ancelotti commented that he liked him and that they were keeping an eye on him. Not a lot of games for Cagliari -- if he hasn't matured there, would he do so at Milan? Maybe he'd be recalled in case Favalli doesn't renew to have an extra centerback on the bench. He may be recalled, with the much more promising Matteo Darmian going to Cagliari in exchange.

#6 Romano Perticone
After a bad period at Livorno, doing well. His coach speaks well of him and he's matured more than Astori. If Livorno do well in the playoffs, he could stay with them in Serie A.

#5 Pierre Aubameyang
On loan in the French second league at Dijon. 32 games and 8 goals, he's drawn the interest of a lot of Ligue 1 clubs, particularly Lille. His future most likely in France, still on loan, but kept under observation.

#4 Alberto Paloschi
The current thought is to bring him back as someone who won't just sit on the bench at Milanello; a lot of clubs are ready to take him on loan for next year -- Cagliari is first in line (as they're losing Acquafresca). With Inzaghi at Milan another year and Borriello recuperated, another year on loan might be best for him.

#3 Davide Di Gennaro
The fantasista wants to play in rossonero and he's got the skill. Called up for the U21s. Galliani and Braida like him. Perhaps next year at Genoa (who own the other half of him) or perhaps next year at Milan.

#2 Ignazio Abate
Always the last to give up, the fastest player in Serie A. Torino risks not being able to keep him - not because of money but because Milan may want him back. Very popular with Milan fans. His father is on staff. Ancelotti would do well to consider him in another role instead of the wing position he currently plays. Midfield, trequartista, RB. The important thing is that he comes back.

#1 Yoann Gourcuff
He's the key to Milan's market and the problem is that the decisions aren't all up to Milan. Bordeaux has until the end of the month to buy him out. The player and his father want reassurances that he'll be more than a benchwarmer. Letting him go (aside from the buyout) would be the worst possible start to Milan's market.

Ones I would want to see re-called

Gourcuff
Di Gennaro
Paloschi

Abate is good but he'll never fit in under Carlo's system, I think permanently selling him would be the best option, same goes for Storari and Oddo, who I can't really see coming back, although I do think we're a fullback short

Abate as a RB! It's possible, look at the success Flamini has had, Abate could be even better.

He's not that good defensively but Serginho was much worse. Then again, Serginho was also much faster. I think we need a LB. Zambrotta can play there and be effective but he's still better at RB.

Can Abate play in the mid-3 on the right? Though perhaps Yoann would be better in that respect. With his speed, Abate should probably be further up the field, playing alongside Kaka/R80. But is he that good?

PLEASE GOD MAKE THIS HAPPEN!!

He's not a proper target man is he? And he's Argentine. I think Inter are ahead of us. But I also think we have better relations with Genoa.

Fishdoll wouldn't mind even if he has Argie cooties. Still think that the interest is mostly to annoy the cugini but still. There could be worse purchases.

Yup...I remember seeing some goal where he did hold up the ball rather well. He's a pure #9 isn't he?

Come to think of it we have a surplus of forwards who cut in from the wings, but not anyone who's a natural striker, holds the ball and can threaten from set pieces.

He could provide a whole different option in attack.

Hmmm....and he'd be cheaper than Adebayor right?

I'm with Zeddie. Sign him!

He is such a leader on the national team. Has that swagger you want from a keeper


we are just raising the price for them like they did to Thiago Silva

Couple of rumors from Tuttosport that are interesting even if they may not be true:

* Milan may be making a bid for Carles Puyol
* Parma want to get Federico Macheda on loan

I can't relate to such rumors in any way. they're just stupid! it's like signing Maldini from Milan, Raul from Real, etc. impossibilities. I remember very well when Puyol, at Albertini's farewell game, said Milan is the only club he'd ever play for if he were to leave Barca, but that's irrelevant since he will never leave Barca! he's their God, and it's safe to say Barca have a brighter near future than Milan.

Puyol to Milan is never going to happen but just the though of it makes go... *insert Zed's craziest gif here*

Macheda would be an idiot if he accepted that. When playing in the EPL, being loaned to an Italian club is only the previous step from being loaned to a baseball club.

Well, MU did loan Giuseppe Rossi to Parma....

That one is more believable than the Puyol one. The Gobbi paper is always especially creative when it comes to Milan-related rumors.

... and now he's in Spain. The EPL and Serie A are way different, there's no point making the transition from one to the other only to go back.

Studio Sport has a new rumor!

Drogba to Milan for 7-8 million + Kaladze.

And Mediaset reports that Milan are interested in poaching Thiago Motta of Genoa.

Yeah... if only...

I don't think Genoa need a CB anyway.

i like it! a strong CF for a good 2 seasons for cheap, and we get ride of a nagging defensively liability .

Fishdoll's going to respectfully disagree with you, habitant. He'd rather deal with the known evil (defensive liability) than the unknown one (see Drogba's postgame antics from Wednesday).

Yeah that was Drogba and not Milito... stupid dst!

Still... does Chelsea really need another CB!??

Drogba is a very good forward but I too dislike his behavior, he's a very bad loser! We should just give them 8m and Kaladze...

edit: OR... we should sell Ronaldinho and then give Chelsea Kaladze + money for Lamps...

i remember milan 1989 1990 with van basten,gullit and rijkaard. this milan was the best team in the world. today,the football has evoluated and it,s difficult to have best players because the competition is more hardener.today,there are a lot of powerfull teams and the competition for possess the best players is very active .my dream for milan,the team of my heart,is the arrival of Messi and Iniesta .i know that these transfers are impossibles but i know for milan nothing it's impossible! and i continue dreaming.

Right, and I'm his long-lost great aunt. God bless Tuttosport.

We need a side that isn't too young? agreed. but we need a side that isn't TOO OLD either.

The title is stupid.

I agree with Zed. We need to find a balance.

the title is really stupid...i agree..

Having young players is good because you know a position will be filled for a certain amount of years.. but I don't think it's that big of a deal. Old players are just as capable as young players.

Funnily enough, the original title was something else (a normal title) but they changed it to make it more interesting. typical goal.com


No they're not. imagine a Milan side with an age average of 33 (as it was against Catania) playing a team like Barca in Europe next season... they won't be able to keep up with fast paced teams. I don't want another embarrassing CL exit like the one against Arsenal. Milan needs to bring down its age average, period.

.... ....

There is some kind of interview about Adebayor or Drogba on sportmediaset.it....I really don't understand what it talks about cuz i don't understand Italian!!!

I'm going to disagree and say one thing. There seems to be a huge misconception that young = quick, old = slow. There is no relation between speed and age in my opinion, at least not during a football career.

Don't see anything about drogba and adebayor on mediaset.

I do see a note saying that Abramovich is prepared to buy out Shevchenko's contract and that he'll then be free to find another club (ie, he's not wanted back at Chelsea).

I'm not too sure either, but I sure do hope its something alone the lines of:
'STAYING FAR AWAY FROM MILAN'