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Bluesummers
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According to the News of the World, Chelsea are ready to pay Milan a sum of €52.5 million for the services of Alexandre Pato.

The Blues have long been linked with the Brazilian teenager, especially since Carlo Ancelotti, the former Rossoneri boss, took over at Stamford Bridge earlier this summer.

The Italian giants have thus far resisted all approaches for their up-and-coming striker, but Chelsea believe they have come up with a deal that will please all parties.

It is claimed that the Londoners are willing to buy Pato outright for the aforementioned €52.5m and then loan him back to Milan immediately for the 2009-10 season.

The Serie A side are worried about cashing in on another star so soon after selling their talismanic playmaker, Kaka, to Real Madrid, but the Pensioners' new proposal would calm some of those fears.

A NOTW source said, "The boy would come to Chelsea right now but Milan have just sold Kaka and do not want to lose another top star.

"That's why this deal could make all the difference. Milan get their money up front and keep his services for one more season and have plenty of time to scout a replacement.

"Chelsea are hoping it is the perfect deal both for them and for Milan."

Both clubs are yet to comment on these latest reports.



G don't do this. He's only 20. It'll be such a waste. 52 is not enough!
kurtsimonw
I don't think he'll go because I don't believe Chelsea will make an offer like that. However, if Chelsea were to make a similar offer, he's as good as gone. He's not worth £50m, plus we've just bought Huntelaar so I reckon we'd sell.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 8 2009, 07:48 PM) *
I don't think he'll go because I don't believe Chelsea will make an offer like that. However, if Chelsea were to make a similar offer, he's as good as gone. He's not worth £50m, plus we've just bought Huntelaar so I reckon we'd sell.

that is crazy. we are trying to build a team that can compete with the worlds best. Why would we sell a 20 year old prodigy? I think we should tell chelsea to bid 100m or f*ck off. If they bid that then at lest we can replace him with worldclass signings.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 9 2009, 02:52 AM) *
that is crazy. we are trying to build a team that can compete with the worlds best. Why would we sell a 20 year old prodigy? I think we should tell chelsea to bid 100m or f*ck off. If they bid that then at lest we can replace him with worldclass signings.

I'm not saying I would sell, that's just what I feel Silvio and Fester would be thinking.
MizNelson
It's News of the World. It's crap.
Zed.D
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 9 2009, 05:18 AM) *
I don't think he'll go because I don't believe Chelsea will make an offer like that. However, if Chelsea were to make a similar offer, he's as good as gone. He's not worth £50m, plus we've just bought Huntelaar so I reckon we'd sell.

It's not about what he's worth at the moment but what he potentially will be worth in a few years' time. and rarely I've seen the EPL sides paying the right sum of money for players. in fact both what they buy and what they sell is overpriced most of times. I still laugh when I think of £30m Manchester paid for Berbatov... Pato may not be worth 50m right now, but what if he did go all the way and became what many expect him him to? it'd be harder to buy him then. that's why the dirty buy him and loan him back policy is being mentioned (even if it's some journalist's fantasies). we know Chelsea are the masters of that.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Aug 9 2009, 05:48 AM) *
I still laugh when I think of £30m Manchester paid for Berbatov...

It is a single case though to be fair. The whole Villa squad is pretty much worth more than we bought them for, can't think of a player who isn't worth more now or wasn't worth more at the time. Rooney for £25m is a joke now, if Pato is worth £50, so is he. Sheva for £30m at the time was insulting to Milan, he was worth far more than that. The whole Arsenal squad were bought for incredible prices. Of course the big clubs often pay over the odds, because they can, but I think that's fair to say in any league. ROnaldinho and Zambro are 2 of last summers signings who've failed to live upto half of what we paid for the, yet. As for Barca buying Ibra..
ganney
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 9 2009, 02:52 AM) *
that is crazy. we are trying to build a team that can compete with the worlds best. Why would we sell a 20 year old prodigy? I think we should tell chelsea to bid 100m or f*ck off. If they bid that then at lest we can replace him with worldclass signings.


the story's probably crap but if it were true, we'd have him on loan for a year&can scout for the next big star, i'd take the money even though i'm always amazed when i see just how TRUELY GIFTED the guy is but @ the same time i'm sure there's another 20yr old somewhere that's just as good.
it took kaka 6 seasons to be sold for 65m so i think pato goin for 52m after 18months can't be too bad though it might be a loss as i'm sure he'll be the best in the world in the not too distant future, i predicted same with kaka 4yrs b4 he actually won it.
ganney
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 9 2009, 02:48 AM) *
I don't think he'll go because I don't believe Chelsea will make an offer like that. However, if Chelsea were to make a similar offer, he's as good as gone. He's not worth £50m, plus we've just bought Huntelaar so I reckon we'd sell.


paloshi's the same age, we could have him back. that's assuming pato'll leave cos one can't be too sure with berlusconi& our crappy management
kurtsimonw
It would be crazy to sell him.

I think big clubs should never sell their best player, unless the player really wants out then there's nothing you can do. If a club is being run properly they should never need to sell, especially a top player and I see no reason for us to sell Pato. But I saw no reason for us to sell Kaka'..
ganney
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 9 2009, 12:50 PM) *
It would be crazy to sell him.

I think big clubs should never sell their best player, unless the player really wants out then there's nothing you can do. If a club is being run properly they should never need to sell, especially a top player and I see no reason for us to sell Pato. But I saw no reason for us to sell Kaka'..


u're right but pato himself had made some suspicious comments bout carlo& the thought of leaving, players will at some point just wanna go(ibrahimobitch is a case in point) so sales are pretty much inevitable, especially now that city, chelsea&madrid are throwing crazy sums in peoples faces
the general idea is for the clubs to remain competitive, i don't think man utd will suffer ronaldo's loss cos they made some good moves in the market, post kaka we're falling apart& still we're not getting quality arrivals. i don't think u'd av been too mad if galliani had announced the signing of diego from werder bremen say 24hrs after selling kaka
han2503
^^^

I suspect that those comment Pato made were intended to get the management rolling on a contract that is not worse then that of Favalli, which is what he has now. I think its only fair that he gets a better one seeing as he is a star in the team.

Also, do you really think Pato had that great of a relationship with Carlo? What with constantly criticising what he does and benching him the second all 3 of Kaka, Seedorf and Pippo were fit. Oh yeah, its a love connection there. I always said that Carlo would go after Pirlo, Seedorf or Gattuso before going for anyone else, and that is what ultimately happened, he wants Pirlo and Chelsea pushed for him
han2503
Milan official site quick to reply to the rumours saying that Pato is absolutely not for sale

I think everyone over there is fearing a riot, I've never seen Milan reply so quickly to such stupid rumours, I think they're afraid to let such things go unanswered now with all the fans being so restless.
ganney
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 9 2009, 01:57 PM) *
^^^

I suspect that those comment Pato made were intended to get the management rolling on a contract that is not worse then that of Favalli, which is what he has now. I think its only fair that he gets a better one seeing as he is a star in the team.

Also, do you really think Pato had that great of a relationship with Carlo? What with constantly criticising what he does and benching him the second all 3 of Kaka, Seedorf and Pippo were fit. Oh yeah, its a love connection there. I always said that Carlo would go after Pirlo, Seedorf or Gattuso before going for anyone else, and that is what ultimately happened, he wants Pirlo and Chelsea pushed for him


he ultimately deserves a handsome contract, still can't believe favalli got a new one, on one hand we have madrid cancelling salgado(33)'s 1yr contract to get arbeloa&the likes and at milan were giving a one year extension to a 38yr guy(its insanity) knowing fully well in today's game we're next to nothing without a new LB (pre season tells it all)

never mind the relationship part, we're talking money.. its a pity we've become a SELLING CLUB so i'm just tryna make myself feel good by not hoping too much cos at this rate we have more than big challenge keeping our stars, at milan everyone's available for the RIGHT PRICE, they're just not sure what pato's is

if indeed the story's not true i'll be glad,
damn the media are getting creative

ganney
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 9 2009, 03:00 PM) *
Milan official site quick to reply to the rumours saying that Pato is absolutely not for sale

I think everyone over there is fearing a riot, I've never seen Milan reply so quickly to such stupid rumours, I think they're afraid to let such things go unanswered now with all the fans being so restless.


lol!
Maestro10
QUOTE (ganney @ Aug 9 2009, 03:01 PM) *
he ultimately deserves a handsome contract, still can't believe favalli got a new one, on one hand we have madrid cancelling salgado(33)'s 1yr contract to get arbeloa&the likes and at milan were giving a one year extension to a 38yr guy(its insanity) knowing fully well in today's game we're next to nothing without a new LB (pre season tells it all)

never mind the relationship part, we're talking money.. its a pity we've become a SELLING CLUB so i'm just tryna make myself feel good by not hoping too much cos at this rate we have more than big challenge keeping our stars, at milan everyone's available for the RIGHT PRICE, they're just not sure what pato's is

if indeed the story's not true i'll be glad,
damn the media are getting creative


Yes, Milan is a selling club. If next year we dont make it to at least the semis of the champions league, then bye-bye pato, cuz we got to balance the books laugh.gif

What a joke Milan have become!
Ry4n
QUOTE (Maestro10 @ Aug 9 2009, 04:21 PM) *
Yes, Milan is a selling club. If next year we dont make it to at least the semis of the champions league, then bye-bye pato, cuz we got to balance the books laugh.gif

What a joke Milan have become!


At least we will lose alot of Glory hunters thats a plus smile.gif
Maestro10
QUOTE (Ry4n @ Aug 9 2009, 05:27 PM) *
At least we will lose alot of Glory hunters thats a plus smile.gif


You mean on our way down to 12th place ? yeah that is a plus dry.gif
Ry4n
QUOTE (Maestro10 @ Aug 9 2009, 04:30 PM) *
You mean on our way down to 12th place ? yeah that is a plus dry.gif


dude what ?! 12 place lol laugh.gif what are you saying blink.gif we arent Livorno or Siena.
Maestro10
QUOTE (Ry4n @ Aug 9 2009, 04:43 PM) *
dude what ?! 12 place lol laugh.gif what are you saying blink.gif we arent Livorno or Siena.


well, at the rate we have been going, a mid table finish would complement us right now dry.gif
Ry4n
QUOTE (Maestro10 @ Aug 9 2009, 04:49 PM) *
well, at the rate we have been going, a mid table finish would complement us right now dry.gif



yeah you can say that on the last these pre season results yes , im not going to debate over lost matches , but from what a gather from your point of view , if we beat a few of the teams we played that would help our chances in the league huh.gif
Maestro10
QUOTE (Ry4n @ Aug 9 2009, 05:59 PM) *
yeah you can say that on the last these pre season results yes , im not going to debate over lost matches , but from what a gather from your point of view , if we beat a few of the teams we played that would help our chances in the league huh.gif


no, i wouldnt mind us losing in preseason, but at least our team can work as a REAL team ! that is the difference, we neither play as a team nor do we even scrap for a win, so what more ?
Ry4n
QUOTE (Maestro10 @ Aug 9 2009, 05:11 PM) *
no, i wouldnt mind us losing in preseason, but at least our team can work as a REAL team ! that is the difference, we neither play as a team nor do we even scrap for a win, so what more ?


hopefully we improve the more games they play together and get to know each other in attack and in defence i.e Tiago Silva - Nesta , Abate - Ronaldinho - Borriello - Huntelaar - De Gennaro
Maestro10
QUOTE (Ry4n @ Aug 9 2009, 05:56 PM) *
hopefully we improve the more games they play together and get to know each other in attack and in defence i.e Tiago Silva - Nesta , Abate - Ronaldinho - Borriello - Huntelaar - De Gennaro


hopeful wishing is all that we have sad.gif
han2503
QUOTE (ganney @ Aug 9 2009, 02:01 PM) *
he ultimately deserves a handsome contract, still can't believe favalli got a new one, on one hand we have madrid cancelling salgado(33)'s 1yr contract to get arbeloa&the likes and at milan were giving a one year extension to a 38yr guy(its insanity) knowing fully well in today's game we're next to nothing without a new LB (pre season tells it all)

Its simple really Favalli gets a measly contract while the management have the advantage of saying we're covered in the CB and LB area because we have Favalli who can cover both spots. But if they didn't extend Favalli's contract they would have to buy a new player + give him and salary that is far better then what Favalli currently earns.

To them Favalli is a win win, he's low maintenance and is a way to assure people that we're covered in defence without spending extra cash on a new player
nuh
i think favalli is underrated he is better then kaladze, janko, odd, antonini and so in these few matches zambrotta i think ppl don't give him credit because he is old but i think he is really really solid i think another guy who is underrated in milan is bonera both of them are solid very solid
mishie
QUOTE
Dopo il trasferimento di Klaas-Jan Huntelaar, la pista Milano (sponda rossonera) - Madrid non sembra essersi raffreddata. Secondo alcune indiscrezioni di mercato i rossoneri ed i blancos potrebbero sedersi nuovamente intorno ad un tavol per discutere della situazione di Rafael Van der Vaart, inserito come Huntelaar, nella lista degli epurati da Pellegrini. Sull'ex capitano dell'Ajax però ci sono anche i cugini dell'Inter che hanno individuato in lui una delle possibili alternative per il trequartista chiesto da Mourinho. Il Milan però gode con la società merengues di una corsia preferenziale e potrebbe ottenere il giocatore in prestito con diritto di riscatto l'anno prossimo, fissato a 10 milioni di €.


Basically it says after the transfer of Huntelaar discussions between the 2 clubs haven't stopped...Van der Vaart could follow on loan for a year with a option to buy at the end for €10m

milannews.it
Tennie
Fishdoll would take that deal inna heartbeat.
han2503
QUOTE (mishie @ Aug 9 2009, 09:47 PM) *
Basically it says after the transfer of Huntelaar discussions between the 2 clubs haven't stopped...Van der Vaart could follow on loan for a year with a option to buy at the end for €10m

milannews.it

I would absolutely p!ss my pants if this happened, I'd be even happier with this then with the Huntelaar deal
Ry4n
VDV !!!!!!!
nuh
i dunno that much about him i saw him play a few times he wasn't that good but do you guys think this would be good ?
Tennie
I've seen him play for Hamburg and for the Netherlands NT and think he's quite good -- he didn't shine for Real but I'm not going to hold that against him.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (mishie @ Aug 9 2009, 02:47 PM) *
Basically it says after the transfer of Huntelaar discussions between the 2 clubs haven't stopped...Van der Vaart could follow on loan for a year with a option to buy at the end for €10m

milannews.it

hmm we'll see what happens. I won't comment on this until more news comes but its either hes the smoke screen for hernanes or vice versa.


But as all have said, he is a great player. I would prefer him to hernanes. I hope di silvestri gets wrapped up soon as well. We need these players bad!
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 9 2009, 03:48 PM) *
I've seen him play for Hamburg and for the Netherlands NT and think he's quite good -- he didn't shine for Real but I'm not going to hold that against him.

He wasn't given much playing time to be fair. He was like huntelaar. He didn't come in playing like a superstar so they tore him apart and didn't give him the chance to gel into the team. Also changing coaches in the middle of the year didn't help either.
han2503
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 9 2009, 11:44 PM) *
He wasn't given much playing time to be fair. He was like huntelaar. He didn't come in playing like a superstar so they tore him apart and didn't give him the chance to gel into the team. Also changing coaches in the middle of the year didn't help either.

Isn't that the story of any Real player or coach? They throw them away like garbage and get shiny new toys every year, the good thing however is that teams like Milan will benefit from this. Too bad Pellegrini wants to keep Sneijder, although I don't know how long he'll want to stay on the bench for...
Bluesummers
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 9 2009, 04:58 PM) *
Isn't that the story of any Real player or coach? They throw them away like garbage and get shiny new toys every year, the good thing however is that teams like Milan will benefit from this. Too bad Pellegrini wants to keep Sneijder, although I don't know how long he'll want to stay on the bench for...

I think pellegrini will be sacked soon. Probably by december. I hope we sign vdv though, he will boost our mid so much. He's only 26/27.
sansiro1708
VDV, di silvestri, bale, huntelaar = summer transfers....oddo in exchange for di silvestri
Bluesummers
Update:

First off HAPPY BIRTHDAY SUPER PIPPO! Turned 36 on Sunday!

Leo confirmed market is still open and new transfers will come.

We are linked with VDV, loan with clause of 10m

Bayern munich are reported to be in talks with Milan for Kaladze. Price around 5-10m. (i'd give him away for free)

Adriano's agent said he could come back to italy but milan is not possible. Roma and samp are main targets.

We are linked with palermo's Blerim Dzemaili

Lazio have returned from China and today being monday is make or break for us regarding Di S.

Storari is also staying at the club, this is what he had to say:

"I'm really glad the way things are. I was convinced to leave Milan soon after the tour, I had had some contact with Parma and Livorno, but then the company has decided to keep me and I am very happy. It 'a great opportunity and a risk: My contract expires in 2010 and then the rest here and play becomes more difficult to find an engagement for next year . But I am very motivated to do well and I want to thank Galliani and Leonardo esteem and confidence. The strange thing is that expire in 2010 also contracts for Dida and Kalac: I have the advantage of being younger. "

(Thank you jesus christ! Finally we can have some new keepers at this club!)


anyways ill keep ya'll posted as soon as I get more news.

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My reflections on updates:

Di S will be done, oddo might go or not.

VDV will be done as real merda and inter merda don't really have that good of connections. Specially given that morratti doesn't give the kind of services that galliani offers wink.gif

We have 4 keeprs laugh.gif

palermo link is bs, probably contract rise or price riser because shaktar and others are linked to him.

pippo didn't turn 36 today imo he turned 28 tongue.gif

kaladze to bayern? I can only pray.. Probably speculation.
Bluesummers
So if we manage to get rid of kaladze Oddo that would be 6-8 M off our wage bill biggrin.gif

Furthermore next year kalac and Dida gone will be another 6 million off! We are looking good!
Zed.D
QUOTE (mishie @ Aug 10 2009, 12:17 AM) *
Basically it says after the transfer of Huntelaar discussions between the 2 clubs haven't stopped...Van der Vaart could follow on loan for a year with a option to buy at the end for €10m

milannews.it


Although I prefer Sneijder to VdV, I would be reaaaally happy if this happened. it's the most realistic rumor I've heard all summer tbh! they don't want Vdv (and he obviously won't be getting muh playing time he why stay there?) - a loan deal with option to buy is absolutely realistic. he's not as good as Sneijder IMO but he's very good. muh better than Seedorf of these years.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Aug 10 2009, 01:10 AM) *
Although I prefer Sneijder to VdV, I would be reaaaally happy if this happened. it's the most realistic rumor I've heard all summer tbh! they don't want Vdv (and he obviously won't be getting muh playing time he why stay there?) - a loan deal with option to buy is absolutely realistic. he's not as good as Sneijder IMO but he's very good. muh better than Seedorf of these years.

It will happen. I'm quite sure of this deal. Like Huntelaar this will be done probably after di S.


By the way for those of you who didn't know. Di S did not travel with the squad to china. We can probably confirm he will be gone asap. Lolito is back today and G is probably in talks with him. After that off to madrid tto suck some perez **** and sign vdv. At least I hope tongue.gif
Zed.D
QUOTE (Ry4n @ Aug 9 2009, 07:57 PM) *
At least we will lose alot of Glory hunters thats a plus smile.gif


???
Suhail 3
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 10 2009, 07:07 AM) *
So if we manage to get rid of kaladze Oddo that would be 6-8 M off our wage bill biggrin.gif

Furthermore next year kalac and Dida gone will be another 6 million off! We are looking good!

yep this is good what you call good buisness cool.gif only IF it went through
Ry4n
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Aug 10 2009, 08:17 AM) *
???


never mind dude was just annoyed at the ammount of pessimism i was reading wink.gif
il_diavolo_mtl
Di silvestri/Drenthe for LB would be a GREAT addition
as would VDV in a "gourcoff" deal with a 10Million dollar buyout:)

i'm gunna be honest guys i like the potential dutch connection:)
Bluesummers
QUOTE
Braida "Dzemaili not interest us"


denial is out. Just like I thought, the link was used to makes other clubs linked with him move faster.
Bluesummers
Update: Reports state that we are in bid for ajax's Luiz Suarez. We are bidding around a region of 12m Euros for the 22 year old.

Bluesummers
Update: Kaladze deal looks very much alive, as it is reported the figure of around 4m is being negotiated biggrin.gif
Tennie
where'd the suarez news come from?

The kaladze story, btw, is from Tuttosport. It does NOT appear in any German sources not counting the german version of goal.com, who is copying Tuttosport. So, for now, Fishdoll's calling bull**** on that story.
mishie
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 10 2009, 09:02 PM) *
Update: Reports state that we are in bid for ajax's Luiz Suarez. We are bidding around a region of 12m Euros for the 22 year old.



QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 10 2009, 09:03 PM) *
Update: Kaladze deal looks very much alive, as it is reported the figure of around 4m is being negotiated biggrin.gif

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