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Bluesummers
Also this one is Leo's pick so hopefully he'll turn out good. Galliani signed him strictly based on Leo's wanting of him at the club.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Jun 13 2009, 05:27 PM) *
Kaka is still pretty young and still has market value, something that the others that "shouldn't be on the team" lack.

Personally, I think his sale was inevitable because of his slump in form over the past two seasons coupled with his high $175K-a-week wages. He was clearly getting burned out here and change of scenery was definitely in the cards somewhere down the line; Milan just merely expedited the process.

We'd have a much harder time moving the lesser guys, anyway, which some don't seem to understand.

The only good kaka's sale did us is the 65 million in the bank and the 9 million reduction from our wage bill. Footballing wise, we have decreased severely in terms of team skill. Kaka is a difference maker and can change a game on his own. Whether he is injured or not on form, he still was one of our key players that was essential to the side functioning, like pirlo is.
Milan Are Brilliant
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jun 14 2009, 06:01 AM) *
so its official: Aly Cissokho:

22 years old.

At least he's young.

Can't say Milan will really get the footballing world talking in terms of this transfer though.

Anyone seen enough of him to make a good judgement? He looked reasonable against Man United in the CL, that's all I've seen of him though.
kurtsimonw
I'll wait for Portys word on this one, I've only seen him less than a handful of times.
Bluesummers
QUOTE
Report: Milan Sign Aly Cissokho From Porto

According to ilsussidiario.net, Milan general manager Adriano Galliani has confirmed that the "very difficult" negotiations with Porto for defender Aly Cissokho ended well "thanks to the friendship with the Porto president".

The Rossoneri will pay the Portuguese side €15 million for the services of the young full-back, who can play both on the left and right flank, with the possibility of also playing as a winger when needed.

There should not be any problems with the 21-year-old's contract, as Milan offered him four times more what he currently earns at Porto.

In fact, the Rossoneri will offer him a four-year deal at €1m per season. This sum obviously enticed the player greatly and allowed the former Champions League winners to beat the competition of Olympique Lyon.

In the meantime, Milan continue their assault on Wolfsburg for their striker Edin Dzeko, who is valued at around €30m, which the Italian club consider to be too high as they can at most offer €20m plus the loan of full-back Massimo Oddo.


No idea about him, we'll have to wait until Porty talks. But....


Players In:

Cissokho 15 million
Oddo free
Thiago Silva 10 million

Players out:

Maldini retirement
Senderos loan
Sheva loan
Kaka 65 million
Gourcuff 15 million
Beckham loan



Total Spent: 25 million
Total Sold: 80 million
han2503
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Jun 13 2009, 10:55 PM) *
Football clubs aren't profitable business's and have never been. In the past, when berlusconi needed Milan, he bankrolled Milan and there wasn't a problem but now he no longer needs Milan for popularity and so the club has been left to struggle on it's own. Perhaps he should just sell Milan to someone who has the clubs best interest at heart!?!?!

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QUOTE (MizNelson @ Jun 14 2009, 12:27 AM) *
Kaka is still pretty young and still has market value, something that the others that "shouldn't be on the team" lack.

Personally, I think his sale was inevitable because of his slump in form over the past two seasons coupled with his high $175K-a-week wages. He was clearly getting burned out here and change of scenery was definitely in the cards somewhere down the line; Milan just merely expedited the process.

We'd have a much harder time moving the lesser guys, anyway, which some don't seem to understand.

I don't think you're understanding the concept of this at all. I'm not talking about getting high transfer fees for selling these players. I'm talking about getting these players off our wage billls, which is our biggest problem. Kaka earned a high wage but he merited all that he was given. These players who have become mediocre at best and nearly earned as much as Kaka did is what's ridiculous.

Any mid table team in Serie A would jump at the chance to sign Seedorf, Ambro, Dida, Janku, Kaladze. But they're not good enough for Milan anymore, especially if they're not willing to accept the bench and take wage cuts.

We need to look ahead. Galliani says we're starting a new cycle? I don't believe that for a second as we've still got the major problems of the squad intact while we're getting rid of our best players one by one. It's ridiculous, and you've really got to start questioning their motives with the moves they're mayking.

You say Kaka has declined? I agree, but you also cannot overlook the fact that even if he has been playing like cr@p on and off for the past 2 seasons we still played like headless chickes when he was not on the field. The fact that we relied on him so much is what we have to look at here. Kaka's form? The Milan medical staff practically ruined Kaka, he was playing when he was injured 75% of the time, he was always pushed into games before recovering because we needed him so much.

Anyone can say what they want about this transfer. On the financial aspect I think Milan did a good deal, he's going to turn 28, soon he'll hit 30. He isn't the player he used to be just a short couple of months ago. The sum we got for him is justifiable taking all of this into account. But when looking at it from the footballing aspect, I think it was a major mistake. Who are we going to find that can replace Kaka and do what he did for us? We've lost the player that has single handedly draged this team on for the better part of 3 years no matter what form or fitness state he is in.

QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jun 14 2009, 03:15 AM) *
AC Milan have signed French left-back Aly Cissokho (22) from FC Porto for 15 million Euros. Milannews are quoting gallaini that he will come on monday for medical... "It 'been a difficult negotiation, resolved through the friendship that binds us to presiente of Porto." Il giocatore sarà a Milano lunedì per le visite mediche. The player will be in Milan Monday for medical check ups

I think he's pretty good, better then Janku that's for sure. We needed something better in that left back position and I think we got it. We still need another CB though, lets wait see...

QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jun 14 2009, 06:04 AM) *
Also this one is Leo's pick so hopefully he'll turn out good. Galliani signed him strictly based on Leo's wanting of him at the club.

Finally a coach that is willing to demand the players that he wants, and not be willing to accept whatever cr@p the management throw at him.

So far Leo has asked for Dzeko and this kid and the management look to be delivering.
MizNelson
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jun 13 2009, 07:15 PM) *
AC Milan have signed French left-back Aly Cissokho (22) from FC Porto for 15 million Euros. Milannews are quoting gallaini that he will come on monday for medical... "It 'been a difficult negotiation, resolved through the friendship that binds us to presiente of Porto." Il giocatore sarà a Milano lunedì per le visite mediche. The player will be in Milan Monday for medical check ups

Source? And Goal.crap doesn't count.

QUOTE (han)
I don't think you're understanding the concept of this at all.

I don't think I ever will, either, since I'm in the distant minority here in regards to the Kaka issue. I think I'll just quit talking about it altogether.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 14 2009, 02:07 AM) *
So far Leo has asked for Dzeko and this kid and the management look to be delivering.

He's got balls i'll give him credit for that. But we'll need far more than some random LB and Dzeko for us to be competitive again so I hope he doesn't stop there.
MizNelson
Apparently, Porto announced in a release (not on their website) that Cissokho was leaving.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Jun 14 2009, 02:31 AM) *
Apparently, Porto announced in a release (not on their website) that Cissokho was leaving.

Yeah its official pretty much.
kurtsimonw
Another Italian signing, awesome.
RinoIlCapitano
I think that we are really making a step forward with signing young players, cisokho is very very talented, i think he is a great signing and a real reinforcement for our defense because he will play in a LB where we have really sucked this year.
Darunia
I think he will be a great signing, we needed youth at LB and someone with energy and pace and Cissokho will fit that bill. I don't know how good he is but I wish him all the luck. Hopefully Cissokho will be like Clichy or Evra.
Habitant
the problem is we just splurged 15 for a club thats constantly complaining about money, it's so hypocritical. just think about it... this was our gourcuff money... LOL i cant see us spening more than 30-40 m this transfer window. opfully we dont spend 40m on dzeko caz the way things are going just about anyone can f us over.
nuh
well if you look at it this way we didn't use any of the kaka money and our transfer budget we used gourcuff's money and they never said that, that money was going to the club so i think its logic we used that money, so that would make us able to use our transfer money and maybe half of kaka's money the rest would go in to the club
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 14 2009, 10:43 AM) *
Another Italian signing, awesome.

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Bluesummers
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 14 2009, 03:43 AM) *
Another Italian signing, awesome.

what? blink.gif
Bluesummers
Realistically we have about 40 million with the champions league and 15 million with gourcuff's sale to spend. If we spend say at least 15 million of kaka's transfer, we'll have about 70 million euros to spend, which will give us 2-3 more players.
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jun 14 2009, 02:41 PM) *
what? blink.gif

sacrasm blue

QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jun 14 2009, 02:42 PM) *
Realistically we have about 40 million with the champions league and 15 million with gourcuff's sale to spend. If we spend say at least 15 million of kaka's transfer, we'll have about 70 million euros to spend, which will give us 2-3 more players.

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So much?! huh.gif
Bluesummers
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Jun 14 2009, 12:47 PM) *
sacrasm blue


40Mil ohmy.gif
So much?! huh.gif

a year in uefa cup and you forget everything trini wink.gif laugh.gif
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jun 14 2009, 02:51 PM) *
a year in uefa cup and you forget everything trini wink.gif laugh.gif

So true. Its been a while...
Bluesummers
Report: Milan offer 10 million plus Jankulovski for Mexes.
han2503
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jun 15 2009, 10:11 AM) *
Report: Milan offer 10 million plus Jankulovski for Mexes.

Oooo Interesting devil.gif

It would be great if it went through.

Although Roma will want more money
CrazyMilanFan
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jun 15 2009, 11:11 AM) *
Report: Milan offer 10 million plus Jankulovski for Mexes.

if this go thorgh it will be a good deal for milan
CrazyMilanFan
i think we should go till 15 million at max
Dzeko
I would love to see Jankulovski out of Milan, Mexes is OK to come but i prefer Zapata or Santacore...
Galliani BRING Dzeko he wait for the things u promise in Sarajevo...
purwo
from goal.com

Valencia Striker Nikola Zigic On Wolfsburg Radar - Report
The Serbian forward could be heading for the Bundesliga...
15 Jun 2009 14:48:44

According to a report in Superdeporte, Bundesliga champions Wolfsburg are closely monitoring the situation of Valencia's Serbian attacker Nikola Zigic.

The 28-year-old joined his current team from Racing Santander in the summer of 2007. However, Zigic failed to make an impact at Valencia and scored only once in 16 league appearances.

The Primera Division outfit opted to farm him out on loan to Racing Santander this term, where Zigic rediscovered his scoring boots. The Serbian international has scored 13 league goals in 19 matches.

The tall forward's excellent performances haven't gone unnoticed in the rest of Europe and Zigic is being linked with clubs such as West Ham United, Everton, Stuttgart, Hamburger SV and now also Wolfsburg.

The fresh German champions are in the market for a new striker due to the expected departure of Edin Dzeko to Serie A powerhouse AC Milan and have reportedly made Zigic their primary transfer target.

The striker's current Valencia deal is due to expire in 2012, but Zigic could be allowed to leave the club if the price is right.


welcome dzeko biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
Dzeko
QUOTE (purwo @ Jun 15 2009, 04:36 PM) *
from goal.com

Valencia Striker Nikola Zigic On Wolfsburg Radar - Report
The Serbian forward could be heading for the Bundesliga...
15 Jun 2009 14:48:44

According to a report in Superdeporte, Bundesliga champions Wolfsburg are closely monitoring the situation of Valencia's Serbian attacker Nikola Zigic.

The 28-year-old joined his current team from Racing Santander in the summer of 2007. However, Zigic failed to make an impact at Valencia and scored only once in 16 league appearances.

The Primera Division outfit opted to farm him out on loan to Racing Santander this term, where Zigic rediscovered his scoring boots. The Serbian international has scored 13 league goals in 19 matches.

The tall forward's excellent performances haven't gone unnoticed in the rest of Europe and Zigic is being linked with clubs such as West Ham United, Everton, Stuttgart, Hamburger SV and now also Wolfsburg.

The fresh German champions are in the market for a new striker due to the expected departure of Edin Dzeko to Serie A powerhouse AC Milan and have reportedly made Zigic their primary transfer target.

The striker's current Valencia deal is due to expire in 2012, but Zigic could be allowed to leave the club if the price is right.


welcome dzeko biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


It's not done yet bro, 99% Dzeko will sign contract at Wednesday, that's what reporters in Bosnia are saying.
Any way after Dzeko we need to bring some fast wingers, Keaper and defender, what u ppl think about players that are on transfer lists:
WF :Robben, Van Der Vart, Malauda, Kalou, GK: Amelia, Landrau Def : Mexes, Santacore, Zapata??
i think that some of this players (Robben, Malauda, Mexes) would be great adition to our club.
Our game is too slow, we lost explosion in mid after selling Kaka, if we are looking to be competiv squad next season ( I MEEN LOOK HOW BARCA PLAY) we have to speed up the game or we don't have a chance. Leonardo is great m8 for the job, he have a nose for good and young players and i think he is next Arsen Venger.
One more thing i have to ask u guys that are from Italy, any one watch primavera and under 18 Teams? I mean dang Milan spent so much money FOR YOUTH DEPARTMENT and for the past 5 years we didn't get SINGLE PLAYER THAT PLAY IN REGULAR 11 (exept Palochi but he will stay in Parma one more season)?
Dzeko
This is what Papers in Bosnia just posted :


President of A.C. Milan Adriano Galliani, Sports Director Ariedo Braida and Coach Leonardo have sit on the table with Wolfzburg managment so they try to negotiate details and to lover the asking price that Germans set up.

This is how we work in Milan: Almost a year we wanted Cissokho, and we have Thiago Silva. Our primary target now is Džeko and we just wait on Wolfsburg. If Wolfsburg reconsider, we will look for some one with the equivalent abilitis, spoke Galliani.

Player Manager Irfan Redzepagic said that agrement beatven player and Milan heve been signed so it's onlly Wolfzburg left to accept the price. Irfan told too that Dzeko expresed desire yesterday to the President of Wolfsburg to go to Milan. Irfan finally concluded that just few days are separating Dzeko and Milan.
han2503
Latest Milan transfer news.

Galliani commented on the transfer market, said that Thiago Silvo and Cissokho have already arrived and the only other objective is Dzeko.

Which is total BS as we need at least 1 other defender and a replacement for Seedorf.

The Janku-Mexes switch has been denied by Galliani. Although some of the press are still insisting on it
han2503
QUOTE (Dzeko @ Jun 15 2009, 03:06 PM) *
This is what Papers in Bosnia just posted :


President of A.C. Milan Adriano Galliani, Sports Director Ariedo Braida and Coach Leonardo have sit on the table with Wolfzburg managment so they try to negotiate details and to lover the asking price that Germans set up.

This is how we work in Milan: Almost a year we wanted Cissokho, and we have Thiago Silva. Our primary target now is Džeko and we just wait on Wolfsburg. If Wolfsburg reconsider, we will look for some one with the equivalent abilitis, spoke Galliani.

Player Manager Irfan Redzepagic said that agrement beatven player and Milan heve been signed so it's onlly Wolfzburg left to accept the price. Irfan told too that Dzeko expresed desire yesterday to the President of Wolfsburg to go to Milan. Irfan finally concluded that just few days are separating Dzeko and Milan.

Thanks for the update

And welcome to Milanfan cool.gif devil.gif
Jack Sparrow
I want my CB. Unless Milan Lab has suddenly reconvinced everyone that Nesta will be injury free.

I guess if this is all, the plan is to pair Kaladze with Silva in the centre defence. It could work. Even Rio made mistakes, but with Vidic he was great.

But where are the wingers, Leo was talking about? I think it's crap though. How can you have wingers in a 4-3-1-2?? Unless it was actually a 4-5-1. Pato to do a Rooney and play on the left. Ronaldinho left free.
CrazyMilanFan
QUOTE (Dzeko @ Jun 15 2009, 04:06 PM) *
This is what Papers in Bosnia just posted :


President of A.C. Milan Adriano Galliani, Sports Director Ariedo Braida and Coach Leonardo have sit on the table with Wolfzburg managment so they try to negotiate details and to lover the asking price that Germans set up.

This is how we work in Milan: Almost a year we wanted Cissokho, and we have Thiago Silva. Our primary target now is Džeko and we just wait on Wolfsburg. If Wolfsburg reconsider, we will look for some one with the equivalent abilitis, spoke Galliani.

Player Manager Irfan Redzepagic said that agrement beatven player and Milan heve been signed so it's onlly Wolfzburg left to accept the price. Irfan told too that Dzeko expresed desire yesterday to the President of Wolfsburg to go to Milan. Irfan finally concluded that just few days are separating Dzeko and Milan.

seems good news and BTW is ur name Dzeko or r u just a fan wink.gif
purwo
QUOTE (Dzeko @ Jun 15 2009, 10:46 AM) *
i think he is next Arsen Venger.


yay, like this, I think he will be
CrazyMilanFan
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 15 2009, 04:16 PM) *
I want my CB. Unless Milan Lab has suddenly reconvinced everyone that Nesta will be injury free.

I guess if this is all, the plan is to pair Kaladze with Silva in the centre defence. It could work. Even Rio made mistakes, but with Vidic he was great.

But where are the wingers, Leo was talking about? I think it's crap though. How can you have wingers in a 4-3-1-2?? Unless it was actually a 4-5-1. Pato to do a Rooney and play on the left. Ronaldinho left free.

i dont think wings are being considered we would have got abate back if not for first bt as a backup to wings
gal_kenny
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 15 2009, 03:06 PM) *
Latest Milan transfer news.

Galliani commented on the transfer market, said that Thiago Silvo and Cissokho have already arrived and the only other objective is Dzeko.

Which is total BS as we need at least 1 other defender and a replacement for Seedorf.

The Janku-Mexes switch has been denied by Galliani. Although some of the press are still insisting on it


Dzeko is not the only other objective...Chillax Milanfans, the transfer market hasn't even opened...so we still have time
han2503
QUOTE (gal_kenny @ Jun 15 2009, 03:24 PM) *
Dzeko is not the only other objective...Chillax Milanfans, the transfer market hasn't even opened...so we still have time

According to Galliani he is...
Habitant
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 15 2009, 03:16 PM) *
I want my CB. Unless Milan Lab has suddenly reconvinced everyone that Nesta will be injury free.

I guess if this is all, the plan is to pair Kaladze with Silva in the centre defence. It could work. Even Rio made mistakes, but with Vidic he was great.

But where are the wingers, Leo was talking about? I think it's crap though. How can you have wingers in a 4-3-1-2?? Unless it was actually a 4-5-1. Pato to do a Rooney and play on the left. Ronaldinho left free.

how can even dream of comparing ferdinand with kaladze? kakha has had a couple of good seasons with us, but has been simply pathetic for 3 years now.
Habitant
after dzeko we NEED TO GET A cb, and a min. of 1 creative mid. we did just lose kaka and the idea of bringing no one to help out with the loss would be suicidal.
Darunia
Mexes and Dzeko would be great signings - we clearly need another CB. If only Gourcuff came back and Seedorf left sad.gif

As for wingers, Janku and Abate can play on the wing


Abbiati
Zambrotta Nesta/CB Thiago Cissokho
Flamini Pirlo Ambrosini
Ronaldinho
Dzeko Pato

or

Abbiati
Zambrotta Nesta Thiago Cissokho
Abate Flamini Pirlo Jankulovski
Dzeko Pato
dst
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 15 2009, 06:16 PM) *
I want my CB. Unless Milan Lab has suddenly reconvinced everyone that Nesta will be injury free.

I guess if this is all, the plan is to pair Kaladze with Silva in the centre defence. It could work. Even Rio made mistakes, but with Vidic he was great.

But where are the wingers, Leo was talking about? I think it's crap though. How can you have wingers in a 4-3-1-2?? Unless it was actually a 4-5-1. Pato to do a Rooney and play on the left. Ronaldinho left free.

Leonardo did not actually say wingers, did he?

Anyway, I truly hope we don't bring in any wingers, I truly dislike such a system.
Habitant
if were gonna get a new CB we should think about dumping some deadwight, getting ride of kaladze would be like a new signing biggrin.gif
Suhail 3
QUOTE (Habitant @ Jun 15 2009, 07:22 PM) *
if were gonna get a new CB we should think about dumping some deadwight, getting ride of kaladze would be like a new signing biggrin.gif

lolz funny way of putting it but yeah _ kaladze could get some extra cash for the milan board who love to save money and flash it _ not splash it wink.gif

kaladze and janku should get sold but then again thats probably wishful thinking _ there are some rumours we are to sign mexes but i wouldnt bet on that mexes is a roman _ and a half
Bluesummers
We'll sign about 5-6 players this summer, so everyone relax.


We have signed 2 players with the third soon to arrive this week.


If we sell more players then more will arrive.


Remember transfer market starts july 1 with the players returning to training july 6. If we sing Dzeko this week, I think we have done great so far.
MizNelson
QUOTE (Darunia @ Jun 15 2009, 10:35 AM) *
Abbiati
Zambrotta Nesta Thiago Cissokho
Abate Flamini Pirlo Jankulovski
Dzeko Pato

Dida should probably be penciled in people's speculative lineups for the time being (assuming there's no change in our GK department between now and the end of the transfer window), simply because Abbiati isn't expected back until after the start of the upcoming season and I doubt he'll just walk back into the starting lineup, especially if Dida continues from where he left off.
CrazyMilanFan
milannews are saying that now itlians clubs will look at rossi including milan rossi,pato,dzeko,pippo/paloschi will be really good attack linup
Zed.D
Rossi! YES!
Ry4n
NICE !!!!!!!
Bluesummers
villareal will not let him go for anything under 30 so lets not get too excited guys. Besides he can also be bought by manu at any time for a very low fee because of the clause in his contract.
han2503
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Jun 16 2009, 01:43 AM) *
Dida should probably be penciled in people's speculative lineups for the time being (assuming there's no change in our GK department between now and the end of the transfer window), simply because Abbiati isn't expected back until after the start of the upcoming season and I doubt he'll just walk back into the starting lineup, especially if Dida continues from where he left off.

Dida had a couple of ok games at the end of the season, but he still managed to screw up. Let's not forget the Roma game.

I just don't think that Dida is good enough anymore. And I don't think it has anything to do with his age. We've given him more chances then he deserves imo. Taking into account the high wage he gets, I think it's high time we put him on the market for any ammount that is offered.

Regarding the Rossi rumours. I would absolutely be ecstatic if we managed to snap him up. He's a really talented player, and I'm surprised that no Italian club has been interested in him sooner, especially after he practically revived Parma on his own in 07...

And I think I remember him saying that as a kid he was a Milan fan, so if we're really interested in him we might be his first choice of destination.

An attacking line-up of Pato, Dzeko, Pippo and Rossi would be top class imo. We haven't had that kind of attacking line-up since the old Sheva days. My only worry is Dinho and his fitness, because I'm pretty sure we're going to be playing a 4-3-1-2 system, and we only have Dinho as a pure AM (please don't mention Seedorf here).

Although with Pato and Rossi we could easily switch to 4-3-3 with Pato and Rossi in support of Dzeko.
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