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Zed.D
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 28 2007, 06:54 PM)
Calm down. It's not done yet.

http://www.tgcom.mediaset.it/controcampo/a...olo372806.shtml

TGcom says Leonardo is flying to Brazil Monday to talk with Pato's parents and offer a 2M/euros per year contract. They say his mother would like him to be near Kaka', such a religious player.

It seems that Milan already agreed with Internacional a deal about 20M/euros for Pato. Now it's up to Leonardo to convince the player and his parents.

He'd come only in January.
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Wasn't he supposed to fly to Brazil on Friday!?...

Anyway, I'm sure Milan will not have any problems with Inter on financial details. it's only the player's choice. I hope it is Milan.

Hopefully we see that sweet official announcement before January. as long as I see the confirmation of signing Pato, I don't care if he comes right now or two years from now! devil.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jul 28 2007, 03:52 PM)
Wasn't he supposed to fly to Brazil on Friday!?...

Anyway, I'm sure Milan will not have any problems with Inter on financial details. it's only the player's choice. I hope it is Milan.

Hopefully we see that sweet official announcement before January. as long as I see the confirmation of signing Pato, I don't care if he comes right now or two years from now! devil.gif
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I'm pretty sure if we do sign him, it'll be announced this summer, rather than January. Hopefully..
Portman
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http://globoesporte.globo.com/ESP/Noticia/...60-4410,00.html

Pato's father said some ours ago:

"There are no offers for him, but if they appear... it's up to Alexandre to decide.
"One thing is clear: he's not going to Europe to be on the reserves or any kind of experience.
"He's going there to play."


Well, in Milan... with Inzaghi (34) and Ronaldo (31)... he'll get time to play soon I believe. Even knowing we could get another foward and Gilardino is 25.
kurtsimonw
He'll get more time at Milan than either Inter or Madrid. Madrid have alot of young guys on their team, as well as the likes of Raul/RvN. We all know about Inters striker situation. rolleyes.gif

Come to Milan!
Zed.D
Are Milan retreating from their offer?!!

Yesterday Carletto said that we are not interested in him right now and now his father says there no offers!

It worries me...
fresh_prince7
Pato only has eyes for Milan (Sunday 29 July, 2007)

Chelsea, Inter and Real Madrid have targeted Alexandre Pato, but the young Brazilian says he only has eyes for “fantastic” Milan.

The Under-20 sensation is lighting up the transfer market and has already been labelled the new Kaka at the age of 17.

“Milan are flying over to Brazil to sign me? That is fantastic,” he told Spanish newspaper ‘As’ and several Brazilian media.

“I won’t be meeting with their emissaries unless Internacional and my agent Gilmar Veloz give me the go ahead. All I can do is wait and hope.”

It’s reported that on Monday consultant Leonardo will fly to Porto Alegre for negotiations with his club Internacional.

This weekend Coach Carlo Ancelotti stated that Pato would most likely arrive in January, as by that stage he would have turned 18.

The offer Milan have prepared is said to be in the region of £14m to beat competition from rivals Inter, Chelsea and Real Madrid.

It would be a similar scenario to the capture of Kaka in 2003, when Leonardo also acted as their representative to broker the deal.

In fact, Kaka’s presence is an important factor for Pato, as his family is very religious and wants to ensure there is a positive role model when he flies to Europe alone.

Pato will be given a five-year contract starting out at £800,000 per season, rising to £1.3m by 2011-12.

(channel4.com)

WOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! devil.gif
Ry4n
QUOTE (fresh_prince7 @ Jul 29 2007, 01:14 PM)
Pato only has eyes for Milan (Sunday 29 July, 2007)

Chelsea, Inter and Real Madrid have targeted Alexandre Pato, but the young Brazilian says he only has eyes for “fantastic” Milan.

The Under-20 sensation is lighting up the transfer market and has already been labelled the new Kaka at the age of 17.

“Milan are flying over to Brazil to sign me? That is fantastic,” he told Spanish newspaper ‘As’ and several Brazilian media.

“I won’t be meeting with their emissaries unless Internacional and my agent Gilmar Veloz give me the go ahead. All I can do is wait and hope.”

It’s reported that on Monday consultant Leonardo will fly to Porto Alegre for negotiations with his club Internacional.

This weekend Coach Carlo Ancelotti stated that Pato would most likely arrive in January, as by that stage he would have turned 18.

The offer Milan have prepared is said to be in the region of £14m to beat competition from rivals Inter, Chelsea and Real Madrid.

It would be a similar scenario to the capture of Kaka in 2003, when Leonardo also acted as their representative to broker the deal.

In fact, Kaka’s presence is an important factor for Pato, as his family is very religious and wants to ensure there is a positive role model when he flies to Europe alone.

Pato will be given a five-year contract starting out at £800,000 per season, rising to £1.3m by 2011-12.

(channel4.com)

WOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! devil.gif
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we have practically signed him all we have to do is wait
agenth
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 28 2007, 04:24 PM)
He'd come only in January.
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why only in january?
Jack Sparrow
He turns 18 only by the jan transfer window
jbryant1
Hopefully we'll wrap this business up this week and have him in the bag. He could come on immediately and make an impact. Hopefully Milan will give him an immediate active role in the squad.
Portman


Moratti today spoke about Pato.

He said he's still an option for Inter and he's one of the 5-6 top young-guns around.
han2503
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 31 2007, 12:11 AM)


Moratti today spoke about Pato.

He said he's still an option for Inter and he's one of the 5-6 top young-guns around.
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What kid in his right mind that will be trying to make an impact in Europe by playing a good ammount of matches goes to a team that is basically made up of strikers?? rolleyes.gif
Portman
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SU REPRESENTANTE TAMBIÉN ANUNCIÓ UNA OFERTA DEL INTER POR EMERSON

El futuro de Pato se decidirá en dos semanas
El jugador brasileño Alexandre Pato sabrá el futuro de su carrera "dentro de un par de semanas", cuando se decida qué club es el "más adecuado a su juventud", dijo hoy su representante, Gilmar Veloz, en declaraciones a una radio romana. El representante de Pato sólo reveló que el próximo club del jugador será europeo "y que llegará o en enero o en julio de 2008".

Según los medios de comunicación, estarían interesados en el delantero del Internacional Porto Alegre, el club italiano Milán, el español Real Madrid, y además el Inter de Milán, que también, aseguraron, envío un emisario para negociar su traspaso. El agente también habló del futuro de otro de sus representados el brasileño del Real Madrid Emerson, que admitió interesa al Inter.

La marcha de Emerson al equipo milanés "dependerá sólo de la decisión del Real Madrid", con el que el jugador tiene todavía dos años de contrato, añadió el agente. Respecto al compatriota en el Roma Alessandro Faiolhe "Mancini", que negocia su contrato hasta el 30 de junio de 2009, Veloz afirmó que no hay "ningún problema en renovar" con el club italiano, donde el futbolista "está trabajando y se encuentra muy bien".

http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/...lo/1022173.html


Pato agent saying things will be solved in 2 weeks. Mid-August so.
Real, Milan and Inter are after him.

His agent confirmed too, that Inter want Emerson.
Jack Sparrow
As I see it...Moratti is trying to do an Oliveira. He's gonna tell the agent, we'll buy Emerson as well if you can guarantee us Pato.
Portman
http://mediacenter.gazzetta.it/MediaCenter...ed-0003ba99c667

As you can see in the video, the kid asked Galliani: "So, what's the big transfer? Pato or Ronaldinho?"

Galliani: "More chances on the first one [Pato] than the second [Ronaldinho]."

Well, TBH I just posted the video because of that girl next-to Galliani. What a lucky b*stard.
armiss
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 31 2007, 01:22 PM)
http://mediacenter.gazzetta.it/MediaCenter...ed-0003ba99c667

As you can see in the video, the kid asked Galliani: "So, what's the big transfer? Pato or Ronaldinho?"

Galliani: "More chances on the first one [Pato] than the second [Ronaldinho]."

Well, TBH I just posted the video because of that girl next-to Galliani. What a lucky b*stard.
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biggrin.gif king.gif
armiss
i guess She is a Model & His Wife , i dont remember her name

she once said galliani is mad about football as he watch football from every corner in the world
Zed.D
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Milan Giants Front Runners In Pato Race 

Milan seemed to have the upper hand to get the Brazilian wonder kid, but Inter's interest could complicate things for the Rossoneri...

Kaká is not moving away from Milanello, and that alone can be considered as a reinforcement for the Rossoneri fans (mad.gif), considering the rumours of a strong interest by Real Madrid for the Brazilian champion. The mysterious "Mister X" which Carlo Ancelotti referred to some time ago is still just that, a mystery, but a great player will almost certainly join Milan, if not this summer then in January: Brazilian wonder kid Pato.

However, with Inter also interested in the player, it will not be an easy operation to carry out for the Rossoneri. Perhaps the player's will can prove decisive, as he expressed a desire to play alongside Ronaldo, and he will meet many other Brazilian countrymen at Milan.

"Playing with Ronie is a dream I have since childhood", Pato declared. Meanwhile, the player's agent Gilmar Veloz denied that any deal has been sealed yet: "Pato is being followed by Milan, Inter, and Real Madrid, and we will only decide which club is most appropriate for him in a few weeks ."

There is a kind of Milanese derby going on for the 17-year old. While Galliani confirmed Milan's interest ("Pato is a great player and we are always interested in great players", he said), with transfer guru Leonardo allegedly flying to Brazil to try and close the deal, Inter president Massimo Moratti was more formal:

"We are interested in Pato, a very young but highly talented player. I don't know if Milan hold an advantage over us to get him. Milan's advantage is that they have Leonardo (king.gif), who is a very experienced and intelligent manager, but only Pato himself, his father, his agents and his club know who is closest to getting him", the Nerazzurri's chairman said.

DP



What the fvck are we waiting for!?!! unsure.gif we should sign him asap. because Moratti is really trying to do another Suazo to us, I'm pretty sure of it. the situation worries me tbh.
Portman


http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Calciomercat.../galliani.shtml

Galliani stated some moments ago:

"Leonardo is in Brazil but for holdays.
"It's Braida who'll fly today for Pato-deal.
"If we get Pato, then it's OK. If not... he'll go to R.Madrid, Inter, or any other club and the life continues."
Portman
YouTubs:

A Milan fan already made video as "The new Milan wonderkid": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYVm4eiv-LI [Too soon... too soon rolleyes.gif ]

Amazing one-touch play: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtoljSW1H9Y

HIS STUNNING GOAL 3-4 days ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9HzWbYCaGk
Zed.D
Thanks for the videos Porty. king.gif

I'm so fvcking excited about having Pato! I hope Braid doesn't fail in his negotiations!
armiss
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 31 2007, 06:32 PM)
YouTubs:

A Milan fan already made video as "The new Milan wonderkid": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYVm4eiv-LI [Too soon... too soon  rolleyes.gif ]

Amazing one-touch play: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtoljSW1H9Y

HIS STUNNING GOAL 3-4 days ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9HzWbYCaGk
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Wonderful Kid !!!!
i want him mad.gif
armiss
I am absolutely agree with Galliani and the way he speaks about Pato ( if he will not arrive life goes on ) . as players must have enough excitement for playing in Milan squad , not for admiring themselves

and the other is for the way that Pato agent and His father speaks in this days for getting more money .
bigmacmtl
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 31 2007, 08:48 AM)


http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Calciomercat.../galliani.shtml

Galliani stated some moments ago:

"Leonardo is in Brazil but for holdays.
"It's Braida who'll fly today for Pato-deal.
[B]"If we get Pato, then it's OK. If not... he'll go to R.Madrid, Inter, or any other club and the life continues."
[/B]
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and you will be shot in the face and everyone will have a big party and life continues... i still can't believe this is the management of the champions of europe. with the way they are conducting they've made us the laughing stocks of europe and the season hasnt started yet and we won the CL 3 months ago... how **** to do you have to be to pull off that
kurtsimonw
Don't worry, we've never won the UEFA Cup before. We'll have plenty of opportunity now.
Portman
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 31 2007, 07:32 PM)
Don't worry, we've never won the UEFA Cup before. We'll have plenty of opportunity now.
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It's always good to see Inter clinch their 16th scudetto next year... (we've 17).

So it means that in 3-4 years... we're doomed. rolleyes.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 31 2007, 06:42 PM)
It's always good to see Inter clinch their 16th scudetto next year... (we've 17).

So it means that in 3-4 years... we're doomed.  rolleyes.gif
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We can only hope Juve keep winning it. rolleyes.gif
Portman
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 31 2007, 07:47 PM)
We can only hope Juve keep winning it.  rolleyes.gif
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Yeah... a team that have 11 good players. rolleyes.gif
They're lot worse than us. At least we've 14-15 good players.

(Inter have 24-25 laugh.gif )
Zed.D
Milan WILL BE front-runner in every single competition. the championship, CL, Supercup, World Club Cup.

You are all being too cynical just because we haven't signed some stars, and that's unbelievable!

By the way, one more month to go before the transfer window closes. who knows what will happen?! cool.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jul 31 2007, 06:53 PM)
Milan WILL BE front-runner in every single competition. the championship, CL, Supercup, World Club Cup.
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We will not retain the Champions League. Sevilla are hardly push-overs. As for Serie A, we were well off the pace last year, even when we did get R9 and Oddo. Signing nobody of worth and Pato will not help at all

@Porty - Juve are my pick to win the league, we'll have to see what happens.
Portman
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jul 31 2007, 07:53 PM)
Milan WILL BE front-runner in every single competition. the championship, CL, Supercup, World Club Cup.

You are all being too cynical just because we haven't sign some stars, and that's unbelievable!
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Not exactly. The problem is that we don't have depth in our squad. Just that.

And a team that have 14-15-16 good players for 90 matches and 5 competitions, can't be competitive in all of them. It's impossible.

We'll probably going to get the 1 or 2 cups and that's it. We do not have depth for a league.
armiss
they only fuss all over 1 year nothing , in 1 year they won that kicking @ss scudetto with only one team ready in competition , yes this is always true about moratti and inter : they did nothing special and they will not , with a one like moratti you can always go to sleep but we did it in 5 years , it was moggi who destroyed our 3 consecutive scudetto so we could now say we get 3 scudetto , 2 champions league with only 14-15 good players . with out of rate and date players . Congradulation poor Milan . How wonderful and lonely you are and how wonderful your management is .
Zed.D
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 31 2007, 10:30 PM)
Not exactly. The problem is that we don't have depth in our squad. Just that.

And a team that have 14-15-16 good players for 90 matches and 5 competitions, can't be competitive in all of them. It's impossible.

We'll probably going to get the 1 or 2 cups and that's it. We do not have depth for a league.
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ِDepth? I don't believe in it that much. last year we were unlucky with all these injuries which were most a result of World Cup and starting pre-season without enough rest. and worse than that, an 8 point deduction that handed to Milan and immediately killed off Milan's competing spirit in Serie A, but not in Europe. and you did see how we performed in Europe compared to Serie A.

This year will be a whole different story. I know winning Serie A will be more difficult than the international competitions, but I believe Milan will succeed at least in three of them which are: Serie A / World Club Cup / Supercup.

CL is a different story and sometimes even the best teams cannot win it.
bigmacmtl
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jul 31 2007, 01:53 PM)
Milan WILL BE front-runner in every single competition. the championship, CL, Supercup, World Club Cup.

You are all being too cynical just because we haven't signed some stars, and that's unbelievable!

By the way, one more month to go before the transfer window closes. who knows what will happen?!  cool.gif
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OMG it's because we havent SIGNED ANYONE. galli-fck-face-ani and carlo even admitted we need more players to cope with the extra matches. many of you spoke about injuries being a one off thing like we were unlucky. WAKE UP CALL!!! thats one of the downers for having half ur squad over 30!!! so expect the same Sh!t this years as well, thats why it would be sane sign players.
bigmacmtl
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jul 31 2007, 02:20 PM)
ِDepth? I don't believe in it that much. last year we were unlucky with all these injuries which were most a result of World Cup and starting pre-season without enough rest. and worse than that, an 8 point deduction that handed to Milan and immediately killed off Milan's competing spirit in Serie A, but not in Europe. and you did see how we performed in Europe compared to Serie A.

This year will be a whole different story. I know winning Serie A will be more difficult than the international competitions, but I believe Milan will succeed at least in three of them which are: Serie A / World Club Cup / Supercup.

CL is a different story and sometimes even the best teams cannot win it.
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umm sorry but i dint know we were the only team in europe to have players at the world cup? everyone had the same problem.

we won our first 3 games and inter only had 3-4 more points than us and then we started to play **** and we start to fall behind because we werent winning, not because of some retarded 8 pt deduction. besides i thought that was supposed to be 'extra motivation" thats what milan refered too it as. it was obvious BS. lesson? dont believe much of what they say because most of it is BS. just like the BS they are talking now.
bigmacmtl
QUOTE (armisse @ Jul 31 2007, 02:14 PM)
they only fuss all over 1 year nothing , in 1 year they won that kicking @ss scudetto with only one team ready  in competition , yes this is always true about moratti and inter : they did nothing special and they will not , with a one like moratti you can always go to sleep but we did it in 5 years , it was moggi who destroyed our 3 consecutive scudetto so we could now say we get 3 scudetto , 2 champions league with only 14-15 good players . with out of rate and date players . Congradulation poor Milan . How wonderful and lonely you are and how wonderful your management is .
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they completly dominated serie a and beat the record for most pts, now if that isnt special then i dont know what isnt. dont be ignorant just cuz we're dealing with inter. they are an even better side from last year and us we'lll we've only gotten smaller which is a (boriello and oli gone, billy retired). 3 scudetti? thats being presumptious. Juve cheated but if i'm not mistaken milan we're in involved too wheter any of us like it or not. you think a team like milan with all the power and ressources it has cant cheat? i'm sur einter cheated too but thats not up to us to decide. in the end juve deserved those scudetti more than us because they were more consistent than us, even tho we outplayed them when it was 1v1.
kurtsimonw
I have to agree with bigmac, Inter would have won the league regardless.

If we started off on the same points, they'd have won it clearly. If they started on less points, they'd have won it clearly. Inter will have it tougher this upcoming season as I believe Juve will be back to their old self.

Don't go by pre-season friendly results, they mean nothing at all. rolleyes.gif
Zed.D
QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Jul 31 2007, 11:31 PM)
OMG it's because we havent SIGNED ANYONE. galli-fck-face-ani and carlo even admitted we need more players to cope with the extra matches.  many of you spoke about injuries being a one off thing like we were unlucky. WAKE UP CALL!!! thats one of the downers for having half ur squad over 30!!! so expect the same Sh!t this years as well, thats why it would be sane sign players.
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We may need a few reinforcements, but we don't really need STARS. I'm sure you wouldn't say these words if we had signed a mega-star by now. I'd love to see R10 or Eto'o in Milan as much as you do but as you know it, that's just a dream.

QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Jul 31 2007, 11:37 PM)
umm sorry but i dint know we were the only team in europe to have players at the world cup? everyone had the same problem.

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Yes we were the only team that went all the way to the World Cup final. Oddo, Pirlo, Gattuso, Inzaghi, Nesta. it's true that only Gattuso and Pirlo played in all matches, but the the others had heavy trainings till the very last day and didn't have much time for rest, just like Pirlo and Gattuso.

Who did Inter have apart from Materazzi?! NOBODY. Argentina were eliminated in 1/4 so its players had at least 10 more days (or maybe more) to rest than Italian players.

Juve also had a situation like us, but they played in Serie B and no CL. so you can't compare them to Milan either.

From other Europe's big clubs... you name it: Real? Barcelona? Manchester? Chelsea? none of them had these kind of problems... injuries, fitness problems, lacking motivation because of point penalty, losing the best goal scorer, etc. last season was really a fvcked up one for Milan. I still wonder how we went all the way to the CL final.

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we won our first 3 games and inter only had 3-4 more points than us and then we started to play **** and we start to fall behind because we werent winning, not because of some retarded 8 pt deduction. besides i thought that was supposed to be 'extra motivation" thats what milan refered too it as. it was obvious BS. lesson? dont believe much of what they say because most of it is BS. just like the BS they are talking now.


We didn't do anything special when we were three or four points behind Inter. we just won a couple of games. it was Inter who took off slowly (and Mancini nearly got fired for his results). but they got better and better and that's it. "extra motivation" was BS. it was more like "fvcked up motivation"! if we weren't winning it was only a result of that 8 point deduction and lacking motivation.

If what I say is not true, then how can you justify our European glory?! we had the same team in both competitions. right?
bigmacmtl
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jul 31 2007, 05:51 PM)
We may need a few reinforcements, but we don't really need STARS. I'm sure you wouldn't say these words if we had signed a mega-star by now. I'd love to see R10 or Eto'o in Milan as much as you do but as you know it, that's just a dream.
Yes we were the only team that went all the way to the World Cup final. Oddo, Pirlo, Gattuso, Inzaghi, Nesta. it's true that only Gattuso and Pirlo played in all matches, but the the others had heavy trainings till the very last day and didn't have much time for rest, just like Pirlo and Gattuso.

Who did Inter have apart from Materazzi?! NOBODY. Argentina were eliminated in 1/4 so its players had at least 10 more days (or maybe more) to rest than Italian players.

Juve also had a situation like us, but they played in Serie B and no CL. so you can't compare them to Milan either.

From other Europe's big clubs... you name it: Real? Barcelona? Manchester? Chelsea? none of them had these kind of problems... injuries, fitness problems, lacking motivation because of point penalty, losing the best goal scorer, etc. last season was

really a fvcked up one for Milan. I still wonder how we went all the way to the CL final.
We didn't do anything special when we were three or four points behind Inter. we just won a couple of games. it was Inter who took off slowly (and Mancini nearly got fired for his results). but they got better and better and that's it. "extra motivation" was BS. it was more like "fvcked up motivation"! if we weren't winning it was only a result of that 8 point deduction and lacking motivation.

If what I say is not true, then how can you justify our European glory?! we had the same team in both competitions. right?
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Who wouldnt want stars? big clubs sign stars or up-coming stars, thats just the way it is and we havent signed a legit star since nesta (ronaldo was surplus was not a star when we got him and he wont be, he is a very good player) and thats a long time for a club like milan. and now we have been promised a star for some time now and our management has fVcked up royally in that department. we dont need stars, but a new star + average signings.

ur telling me that milan was more tired than inter cuz italy played 2 more matches than argentina laugh.gif

milan had janku (played 3 matches only), nesta (played 1 games), gattuso, pirlo, gila (barely played), cafu (played 4-5 matches), simic (played 3 matches), kaka (played 5 matches) we dint have many players that played much besides rino/pirlo

and inter had vieira who played all the games + argies @inter who played till 1/4s

not a huge diff if any....

we won the CL because of the following reasons:

-we had by far the easiest group so it was impossible not to qualify
-celtic was probably the easiest or 2nd easiest team we could of played for the round fo 16
-bayern was probably the 2nd easiest draw for us after PSV
-we got 2 away goals which is because of kaka
- san siro display was a collective effort so we coudl get revenge
-our win in the final was a mediocre display by pretty much everyone except 2 moments from kaka which inzaghi skilfully finished + liverpool couldnt finish their chances
-Overall everyone underestimanted us till we reached the finals

in the end we won the CL 90% cuz of kaka, and we cant rely on him doing this again if we wanna have any chance of winning anything this season.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Jul 31 2007, 11:11 PM)
in the end we won the CL 90% cuz of kaka, and we cant rely on him doing this again if we wanna have any chance of winning anything this season.
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We will have R9 this season, which will help alot. But there's 0% chance of us retaining the trophy. Look at the other teams that made the semi's and the players they're bringing in.

We can't even compete with Liverpool in the transfer market anymore. Milan need to start being serious in the summer. We seem to think we can get anybody we want, when that's very far from the truth.
bigmacmtl
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 31 2007, 06:18 PM)
We will have R9 this season, which will help alot. But there's 0% chance of us retaining the trophy. Look at the other teams that made the semi's and the players they're bringing in.

We can't even compete with Liverpool in the transfer market anymore. Milan need to start being serious in the summer. We seem to think we can get anybody we want, when that's very far from the truth.
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ronaldos CL record: 42 app, 16 G (some of which are penalties) ... he's never been good in the CL and thats when he was el phenomenal... so i guess now ronaldo i going to magically become even better than he's been over the years even tho he's been in the decline for 2-3? rolleyes.gif

we are champions of europe, it shouldnt be so hard to sign world class players. the problem is milan not being able to spend money ( ya we would spend on R10 or eto'o) but you have to be open minded. theres always gonna be a few players that wont be sold so you go on the other world class players that are within the 30-40m range. some of you are saying well who are these players? well if there was no one good on the market than how come liverpool, chelsea, man u, inter, barca, real, juve EVEN spurs and athletico are making excellent signings?

what happened to we can sign anyone we are milan? what happened to this signing that will rock the world? what happened to we will sign eto'o or R10? what happened to we will get a world class player? how clubs besides real (at least they're signing good players) talk so much but cant backup any of it? it's really embarrassing listening to them. obviously the summer isnt over but its not looking good.
Portman
Back to topic...



Rumours about a 22M/euros deal to get Pato.
What do you think? Too much?

TBH I just don't want to hear Galliani saying "We should have got him when he was in Internacional" in few years. rolleyes.gif
Tennie
Er. Guys, it's still July. There IS another month to the transfer window.

I agree that Milan really does need more depth to be a serious contender for the Scudetto, but I don't think there's a great need to be quite as pessimistic as some are.

As for the transfer campaign...the last time I felt really horrible about the summer market was in the summer of 2002. The defense was a mess and everyone I knew was making rude Fester jokes. Milan had scraped through the first couple of CL qualifiers in August, though it wasn't pretty. And then, on the last day of the market, Nesta arrived. The moral of the story? Milan likes last-minute dramatics. There's no need to start the bashing just yet. Have a little faith. smile.gif

EDIT: 22 m for Pato? It's a lot but I say go for it.
bigmacmtl
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 31 2007, 06:50 PM)
Back to topic...



Rumours about a 22M/euros deal to get Pato.
What do you think? Too much?

TBH I just don't want to hear Galliani saying "We should have got him when he was in Internacional" in few years.  rolleyes.gif
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worth it
jbryant1
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 31 2007, 11:00 AM)
Not exactly. The problem is that we don't have depth in our squad. Just that.

And a team that have 14-15-16 good players for 90 matches and 5 competitions, can't be competitive in all of them. It's impossible.

We'll probably going to get the 1 or 2 cups and that's it. We do not have depth for a league.
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I agree with this and have been emphasizing the problems with our bench.

The real problem is that we have depth on the bench but 50 % percent is injury prone depth. Our real key is our midfield and perhaps Ronaldo if he can revive. We could use another attacking midfielder. Kaka was our depth last season. We wouldn't have won the champions league without him.

The rest of our team is lacking. Our defense- we should clean house, and get some fresh talent out there, its not really that great when Madrid, Barcelona, and Chelsea are monopolizing most of the talent out there.

By the time we go for someone there transfer price is too high. Rebuild our defense around Nesta, Janku, and Oddo. Find their successors and go for it. Forwards is the other problem. With only 3, 2 injury prone, 1 can't be counted on.

In an interview recently Kaka came out and talked about you have to continuously look forward to the next season, the last one doesn't matter anymore. THe problem with Milan's management is that they are stuck in last season with the CL win, and flat out fail to address the potential weaknesses approaching. It really could either way with Milan. Either we win or fall flat, its hard to say.

But one things for sure, we have the same team that got outplayed by Inter, Livorno, and Roma last season, its not a good sign because they are even stronger and of course Juventus. Also Chelsea, Barcelona and others have more depth and are free of the injuries from the start of the season, making the CL more competitive.
armiss
QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Aug 1 2007, 12:43 AM)
they completly dominated serie a and beat the record for most pts, now if that isnt special then i dont know what isnt. dont be ignorant just cuz we're dealing with inter. they are an even better side from last year and us we'lll we've only gotten smaller which is a (boriello and oli gone, billy retired). 3 scudetti? thats being presumptious. Juve cheated but if i'm not mistaken milan we're in involved too wheter any of us like it or not. you think a team like milan with all the power and ressources it has cant cheat? i'm sur einter cheated too but thats not up to us to decide. in the end juve deserved those scudetti more than us because they were more consistent than us, even tho we outplayed them when it was 1v1.
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yes they dominate on something that there was only one serious rival on it : Roma , so when you have no rivals what can you do with a squad like inter and teams like reggina and siena , you must set the record , No its not absolutly about ignorant , because their organization is out of character , they proved it in last year and us : i dont see anything special from mancester united in semi final , a team like manchester that dominate premier league for whole season , , so i will repeat everthing plus 3 Scudetto and 3 Champions League , yeah it is presumptious when we dont see the clear truth . biggrin.gif
then about Moggi and juve , how can you said that , it was moggi system who down all of our hard works and our consistency , and exactly it was juve pressure that made those condition in stanbul and the best document about our innocence was Milan - Juventus game in Turin ( 2004-2005) that Refree Bertini did it for juve and everybody saw that and finaly they Punished Bertini . king.gif
Zed.D
QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Aug 1 2007, 02:41 AM)
Who wouldnt want stars? big clubs sign stars or up-coming stars, thats just the way it is and we havent signed a legit star since nesta (ronaldo was surplus was not a star when we got him and he wont be, he is a very good player) and thats a long time for  a club like milan. and now we have been promised a star for some time now and our management has fVcked up royally in that department. we dont need stars, but a new star + average signings.

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We ARE signing upcoming-stars. Pato is actually an upcoming-superstar. so is Gourcuff (if not a superstar, he's at least gonna be a star).

Anyway, stars don't always win the game. Barca had plenty of them last season and fvcked everything up. only a decent TEAM succeeds I believe we have a decent team right now. I'm not gonna say we don't need a striker because we really do. but I don't think it necessarily has to be a BIG name.

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ur telling me that milan was more tired than inter cuz italy played 2 more matches than argentina  laugh.gif

milan had janku (played 3 matches only), nesta (played 1 games), gattuso, pirlo, gila (barely played), cafu (played 4-5 matches), simic (played 3 matches), kaka (played 5 matches) we dint have many players that played much besides rino/pirlo

and inter had vieira who played all the games + argies @inter who played till 1/4s

not a huge diff if any....


Exactly! it's not just 2 games. it's about a lot of heavy training sessions. it's about leaving Germany a couple of weeks later than the other teams. it's about a lot of tension before going to the final game. after the final, our players were all tired, both physically and mentally. and then they had to immediately start the new season without enough rest and worse than that, without any hope of winning the league.

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we won the CL because of the following reasons:

-we had by far the easiest group so it was impossible not to qualify
-celtic was probably the easiest or 2nd easiest team we could of played for the round fo 16
-bayern was probably the 2nd easiest draw for us after PSV
-we got 2 away goals which is because of kaka
- san siro display was a collective effort so we coudl get revenge
-our win in the final was a mediocre display by pretty much everyone except 2 moments from kaka which inzaghi skilfully finished + liverpool couldnt finish their chances
-Overall everyone underestimanted us till we reached the finals

in the end we won the CL 90% cuz of kaka, and we cant rely on him doing this again if we wanna have any chance of winning anything this season.


It's right, last season Milan were dependent on Kaka more than any other player. many of our players were either out injured most of time or suffered mental/physical problems (Pirlo, Maldini, Nesta, Kaladze, Cafu, Gilardino, Gourcuff) and yet we ended up winning the CL.

This season we don't have any of these problems. apart from Maldini, we'll have all of our players ready to start at highest levels. they're all charged up!

How can you all give Inter a lot of credit when they just could manage to win the most fvcked up Serie A in the past twenty years? rolleyes.gif
Portman
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Pato sets decision day 

Wednesday 1 August, 2007 ::: channel4.com

Highly-rated Brazilian striking starlet Alexandre Pato has set an August 15 deadline to decide whether he will join Milan or Real Madrid.

The 17-year-old, nicknamed ‘The Duck’, has been tracked by a host of top European sides including Chelsea, Liverpool and Inter, but is now ready to join either the Rossoneri or the Merengues.

Internacional of Porto Alegre have reportedly demanded £15m for the youngster’s signature, but his rescission clause is set at just £9m.

“My dad is on his way back from a tour of Italy and Spain where he got to know the set-up at Milan and Real,” Pato told website globoesporte.com.

“Pato will decide in the next few days,” his father confirmed. “Things surely can’t continue in this unsure manner so we have to decide one way and end this saga.

“We will resolve this before August 15 once and for all as there is no point in renewing his contract at Internacional.”

Pato will only leave the newly-promoted Colorado when the Brazilian Serie A season ends in December.
Portman
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His coach in Internacional:

"I've worked with Robinho in Santos and I can say, without a doubt, he's at the same level."

He also coached Ronaldo (R99) early in his career and compare both:

"They're similar. The difference is that Pato is not as strong as Ronaldo but he's more skilled and has better 'dribble'.
I'd say he's kinda a mix between Ronaldo and Robinho."


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Iarley, a Internacional player, his teammate said on the first day he saw Pato training:

"I've been to many places, I saw many players "appear" in the profissional football... but nothing compares to what I just saw.
"It was like... looking at Ronaldo [The Phenomenon] in the beginning of his career."


http://globoesporte.globo.com/ESP/Noticia/...72-4410,00.html


I really hope he choses Milan.
fresh_prince7
Please bring the kid.. devil.gif
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