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Zed.D
Yeah! it's usual Marca/AS bullsh1t. nobody will believe it!

Anyway, he must be stupid to choose Madrdid over Milan when Madrid have Nistelrooy/Robinho/Soldado/Higuain/Raul/Saviola sleep.gif (and add Cassano to that if you wanted!)

And Milan have... Ronaldo/Inzaghi/Gilardino rolleyes.gif

The Choice is all his, I'm sure he will make a wise decision!
Portman
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jul 24 2007, 03:56 PM)
Yeah! it's usual Marca/AS bullsh1t. nobody will believe it!

Anyway, he must be stupid to choose Madrdid over Milan when Madrid have Nistelrooy/Robinho/Soldado/Higuain/Raul/Saviola sleep.gif (and add Cassano to that if you wanted!)

And Milan have... Ronaldo/Inzaghi/Gilardino  rolleyes.gif

The Choice is all his, I'm sure he will make a wise decision!
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I think he knows he won't play many matches in the next 2 years or so if he comes to Europe. No mather the team.
han2503
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 24 2007, 12:31 PM)


http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/...lo/1019828.html

From Marca, Madrid's paper quoting Pato's agent: "Relax, he only wants Real Madrid."

I dunno if this is true or not though...  rolleyes.gif
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What do you really expect from marca or AS? rolleyes.gif
Zed.D
We beat Marca/AS in rumors they made for Kaka... maybe they want revenge!? rolleyes.gif
Zed.D
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 24 2007, 06:55 PM)
I think he knows he won't play many matches in the next 2 years or so if he comes to Europe. No mather the team.
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Of course he won't get a lot of playing time, he's 17 for God's sake! but I'm confident he will play more and will find it easier to adapt in Milan than in Madrid, because Madrid have 6 strikers, twice as we have. and pretty decent ones indeed. Saviola, Nistelrooy, Robinho and Raul are enough to push Pato to the stands.

Just look what Higuain has become in Madrid: a pretty ordinary striker. I don't want Pato to go to the same direction as Higuain and Gago did.
Portman
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jul 24 2007, 06:13 PM)
Of course he won't get a lot of playing time, he's 17 for God's sake! but I'm confident he will play more in Milan than in Madrid, because Madrid have strikers twice as we have, and pretty decent ones. Saviola, Nistelrooy, Robinho and Raul are enough to push Pato to the stands.

Just look what Higuain has become in Madrid: a pretty ordinary striker. I don't want Pato to go to the same direction as Higuain and Gago did.
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Gago will be a first 11 player along with Diarra in the midfield for sure. Higuaín is still 20. He has time and talent. He can play as right-winger too.
Zed.D
I didn't see anything that special from Higuain last season...
Gago is good and will be better, but didn't worth 20 million euro (!?). by the way he's the only Argentine that I like.
Portman
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jul 24 2007, 06:20 PM)
I didn't see anything that special from Higuain last season...
Gago is good and will be better, but didn't worth 20 million euro (!?). by the way he's the only Argentine that I like.
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Higuain? Check out the match vs. Espanyol, against Recreativo, against Mallorca, against Atletico... he was always there to score or assist. Very important signing for Real Madrid.

I always liked Gago. Milan tried him but Braida got the answer "He only wants Madrid." rolleyes.gif
Zed.D
Well, maybe you're right about Higuain. but I just didn't see anything worth 13 million euro from him!

As for Pato, I hope we don't get into another "only Madrid" situation this time... because I consider Gago's transfer to Madrid a loss for us.
Portman
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jul 24 2007, 07:09 PM)
As for Pato, I hope we don't get into another "only Madrid" situation this time... because I consider Gago's transfer to Madrid a loss for us.
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Gago to Madrid, Lucas Leiva to Liverpool, Ibrahimovic to Inter, Suazo to Inter, Abidal to Barcelona... big list for the last 12 months. rolleyes.gif
I_Rossoneri
I believe Leonardo king.gif has worked his magic with Pato - after all who coud refuse an offer from Leonardo wink.gif

I also think that if Milan do buy Pato they will leave him in Brazil for the time being, he can't come til january anyway.
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 24 2007, 06:34 PM)
Gago to Madrid, Lucas Leiva to Liverpool, Ibrahimovic to Inter, Suazo to Inter, Abidal to Barcelona... big list for the last 12 months. rolleyes.gif
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Biggest loss IMO was Diarra to circus madrid.
Portman
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Jul 24 2007, 08:30 PM)
I also think that if Milan do buy Pato they will leave him in Brazil for the time being, he can't come til january anyway.
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He can come right now. Milan just have to get a job to his father/mother in Milano. FCPorto did that when they bought Anderson (now ManUtd) when he was 17.

QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Jul 24 2007, 08:32 PM)
Biggest loss IMO was Diarra to circus madrid.
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Diarra was never a Milan target. Just rumours, nothing serious from any director or agent. [Not the same on Ibrahimovic, Gago...]

It was a Madrid/United target but I think everybody knew he would end up in Madrid. He said from the 1st minute he'd only accept that. Too bad. For me M.Diarra is the best defensive midfielder in the world. Very important player for the Spanish Champions.
I_Rossoneri
Braida and Galliani both went to watch Diarra a few times, but like you say, he wanted madrid(the fool wink.gif )

And about Pato, I'm not sure about the rules but I heard he woudn't be allowed to leave unti he was 18. But I suppose if his family moved then he would be able to as well.
Milan Are Brilliant
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Jul 24 2007, 08:12 PM)
And about Pato, I'm not sure about the rules but I heard he woudn't be allowed to leave unti he was 18. But I suppose if his family moved then he would be able to as well.
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Yeah as Porty says I think the parent has to have a job confirmed and that will help so much with the application.

Milan's backroom staff should find something for them to do!
Portman
QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Jul 24 2007, 09:34 PM)
Yeah as Porty says I think the parent has to have a job confirmed and that will help so much with the application.

Milan's backroom staff should find something for them to do!
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FCPorto "gave" Anderson mother the job to work on a restaurant. The problem is that nobody in that restaurant has ever seen Anderson's mother. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Now, the case is on courts I believe. But nothing will happen for sure.
KillerMax
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 24 2007, 02:42 PM)
FCPorto "gave" Anderson mother the job to work on a restaurant. The problem is that nobody in that restaurant has ever seen Anderson's mother.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

Now, the case is on courts I believe. But nothing will happen for sure.
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laugh.gif laugh.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Jul 24 2007, 11:12 PM)
Braida and Galliani both went to watch Diarra a few times, but like you say, he wanted madrid(the fool wink.gif )
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Well about Diarra ... I don't think he could be offered first team football, unlike at Madrid he can. Cuz at Milan, the Seedorf-Pirlo-Gattuso almost certainly played ahead of anyone .. In that sense, Diarra would have been surplus to our requirements. At least that is how I see it ..
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jul 24 2007, 11:01 PM)
Well about Diarra ... I don't think he could be offered first team football, unlike at Madrid he can. Cuz at Milan, the Seedorf-Pirlo-Gattuso almost certainly played ahead of anyone .. In that sense, Diarra would have been surplus to our requirements. At least that is how I see it ..
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With our European team(2 DM's) he would have been excellent IMO. I'm sure Carlo could have fitted him in somewhere wink.gif
Portman
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Pato esclarece: tanto faz Milan ou Real



Garoto contraria empresário e diz que não tem preferência especial pelo clube espanhol

Alexandre Pato é alvo dos clubes mais poderosos do Velho Continente

O Real Madrid que trate de não se animar tanto, porque Alexandre Pato não parece tão seduzido assim pelo clube merengue. Nesta terça-feira, o atacante de 17 anos contrariou seu empresário e disse que não tem preferência entre Milan e Real. Gilmar Veloz havia declarado ao jornal Marca, da Espanha, que o craque do Internacional preferia o time madrilenho.

- Quem cuida disso é meu empresário. Ele conhece bem todos estes lugares e estes clubes. Depois, eu que vou definir. Não tenho preferência agora. Qualquer um dos dois está bom para mim - afirma Pato.

O curioso é que Pato, por conta própria, restringiu os interessados a Milan e Real Madrid ao dizer que 'qualquer um dos dois está bom'. O possível tropeço do menino fecha com a declaração de Veloz, que relatou à Rádio Gaúcha que Pato já teria descartado alguns clubes. Especula-se que um deles seria o Chelsea. Mas o menino negou que tenha tomado tal decisão.

Pato deixará o Beira-Rio em janeiro. Pelo jogador, o Inter deve receber um valor superior à multa rescisória, estipulada em US$ 20 milhões (R$ 38 milhões).

Source: GLOBOesporte


Basically Pato today said it was not true that Marca-thing about "only Real".

He said:

"Who takes care of that is my agent. He knows well every club interested in me.
"Then, I'm going to decide.
"I've no preference. Any of those 2 [Milan or R.Madrid] are OK for me."


Does this mean that Alexandre Pato just snub Chelsea and Inter? rolleyes.gif
I_Rossoneri
Perhaps we're the only two interested in him as merda have spent heavily yet again and chelscum have bought nearly everyone else!
Portman
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Jul 25 2007, 02:21 PM)
Perhaps we're the only two interested in him as merda have spent heavily yet again and chelscum have bought nearly everyone else!
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Nop. His agent said more than once that there are 4 clubs after him: Milan, Inter, Chelsea and Madrid.
Rossoneri7
TBH ... Pato would sign for us or Madrid .. There is no other competition out there IMO
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 25 2007, 01:23 PM)
Nop. His agent said more than once that there are 4 clubs after him: Milan, Inter, Chelsea and Madrid.
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An agents job is to make his player look attractive to every club wink.gif
Zed.D
Kaka and Marek alson gave their opinions on Pato today...

so... CONGRATULATIONS!

I can't see Pato going anywhere but Milan. it sure is a done deal.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jul 25 2007, 06:42 PM)
Kaka and Marek alson gave their opinions on Pato today...

so... CONGRATULATIONS!

I can't see Pato going anywhere but Milan. it sure is a done deal.
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I wouldn't say it's a done deal.

The way Madrid are acting over this, claiming he only wants them, is only going to push him closer to Milan, let the Spanish papers say what the want. rolleyes.gif
Portman
Another day, another superb goal by Pato, another win for his club: http://globoesporte.globo.com/ESP/Noticia/0,,MUL77026-4276,00.html (I think you can watch it here)

BTW, you can see Berlusconi talking about Pato in the beginning of the press conf.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qekhpj_BMSc
KillerMax
What a goal!
jbryant1
Pato To Reveal Future Within A Week

Highly coveted Brazil starlet Alexandre Pato has announced that he will make a decision on his future by next week.

Likened in style to AC Milan goldenboy Kaka, the prodigiously talented 17-year-old is considered the next big thing to come out of Brazil. As a result, the likes of AC Milan, Inter, Real Madrid and Chelsea are all competing over his signature, and one of these uberclubs is set to get August off to a very good start if Pato opts for them.

"My agent will be the first person to know what I have decided and I will tell him that in a week," said Pato, who currently stars for Brazilian club Internacional.

There were recently quotes attributed to his agent Gilmar Veloz claiming that his client, nicknamed ‘The Duck’, already had his mind set on Real, but his latest comments on the matter where decidedly ambiguous.

"For the moment the only thing that I can say is that Pato has already dismissed some of the teams that have sent him proposals.” Veloz told Radio Gaucha.

“He told me that after speaking with his parents he will decide which team he will play for and that decision will come from what is best for his family and for his career.”

A princely sum of €25m is being touted for the rights to buy the teenage sensation, as that represents the buyout clause on his contract with Internacional.
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jbryant1
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 26 2007, 11:08 AM)
Another day, another superb goal by Pato, another win for his club: http://globoesporte.globo.com/ESP/Noticia/0,,MUL77026-4276,00.html (I think you can watch it here)

BTW, you can see Berlusconi talking about Pato in the beginning of the press conf.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qekhpj_BMSc
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Nice link.

We should definitely get this kid and we will regret it in 5 years if we don't.
Panama Devil
I'M FULL OF ALL THIS CRAP ... !

I'LL CHECK THIS SITE AGAIN ON AUGUST 20TH TO SEE IF WE FINALLY SIGNED SOMEBODY WITH TWO LEGS.

ALTHOUGH I CAN BE BACK BEFORE ... JUST IF I FEEL THE EARTHQUAKE CAUSED BY THE SIGNING OF THE PLAYER OUR COACH SAID WILL END THE WORLD.
Portman
I can't believe... look at this:
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Alexandre Pato, polemica con Pelè



27.07.2007 09.51 di Francesco Letizia    articolo letto 2414 volte

Non le manda a dire Alexandre Pato: in un'intervista a Radio Gaubìà, il Garoto Colorado ha dimostrato tutto il suo carattere rispondendo per le rime a Pelè che lo aveva definito non ancora all'altezza del calcio europeo. "Volevo ricordare al signor Pelè che sono un campione del mondo, forse se ne dimentica" ha detto il ragazzo di Pato Branco.

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/index.php?a...n=read&id=69193
http://globoesporte.globo.com/ESP/Noticia/...42-4274,00.html


Pelé said 1 week ago that Pato should stay in Brazil some more time, bla bla bla...

His answer to Pelé: "I thank Pelé for talking about me but I'll remind him that I am a World Champion [with Internacional de Porto Alegre], in case he has forgotten."

Alexandre showing caracther. Maybe Pelé is a bit fvcked up since Pato beat his record... being the youngest player EVER to score in a FIFA competition. cool.gif

BTW: Corriere dello Sport says Leonardo is flying today to Brazil to close the deal.
Zed.D
Yeah!

I'm in love with this kid. I hope we hear about an agreement before the transfer window closes.

He really is an incredible talent. a world star at the age of 17!

Who's Messi?!
fresh_prince7
Milan close on Pato Friday 27 July, 2007

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Milan are ready to launch their final assault on teenage sensation Alexandre Pato, according to the latest reports in Italy.

The 17-year-old, who won the Copa Libertadores and the FIFA World Club Championship last year, is a fast and technically gifted striker who is highly rated by Rossoneri Coach Carlo Ancelotti.

Former player and current official Leonardo is expected to travel to South America shortly to speak with the youngster, who is a reported target for Real Madrid and some English clubs as well.

The Internacional player, who scored three goals for Brazil in the Under-20 World Cup in Canada this month, could arrive in August if a deal can be thrashed out.

However, Pato’s representative Gilmar Veloz recently stated that Madrid was his client’s preferred destination.

Paulo Roberto Falcao, who was in Italy for Roma’s 80th birthday party celebrations, believes that the player has a bright future – but he cannot be rushed.

“In Brazil we are aware of the fact that Pato has attracted the interest of Milan, Real Madrid and Premiership outfits,” he said. “He is a good player, but he is still only 17 – at that age you are only a child.

“He needs time and still has much to learn, but he is definitely talented and very strong from a technical point of view.”

(channel4.com)

Get us a signature leonardo..
Portman


Galliani when asked about what Marca wrote ("Pato only wants Real Madrid") he said:

"Why don't you just try ask Pato if that is his real intention?" rolleyes.gif

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/index.php?a...n=read&id=68965

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Agent Bronzetti also said it's basically a done deal. Pato will come to Milan in January.

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/index.php?a...n=read&id=68904
mkenya
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Agent Bronzetti also said it's basically a done deal. Pato will come to Milan in January.


You'd better be right!!!!!!
m1ke
Doesn't signing Pato rule out any other non-eu signing?
Zed.D
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 27 2007, 02:37 PM)


Galliani when asked about what Marca wrote ("Pato only wants Real Madrid") he said:

"Why don't you just try ask Pato if that is his real intention?"  rolleyes.gif

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/index.php?a...n=read&id=68965

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Agent Bronzetti also said it's basically a done deal. Pato will come to Milan in January.

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/index.php?a...n=read&id=68904
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Milan And Madrid Plan Final Pato Bids 

Alexandre Pato's future maybe be sorted out as both AC Milan and Real Madrid are said to be making a final push to win the Brazilian wonderkid's signature.

The 17-year-old Internacional forward has been the target for several of Europe's major clubs this summer and the press speculation has been extensive.

Now though, Milan and Madrid appear to be preparing an end game to finally push Pato into making a decision one way or the other.

While the player's agent Gilmar Veloz, has said that his client would prefer a move to the Bernabéu, Milan are preparing a charm offensive to persuade that Italy has more to offer according to Corrierre dello Sport.

The Rossoneri's former player and current director, Leonardo, is to travel to Brazil to speak to his compatriot and his family about the plan that the club has for him.

Having already watched Pato in the Under 20 World Championships in Canada, Leonardo is well aware of the youngster's ability and is confident that he can obtain his signature.

Leandro helped Milan sign Kaká and if he is able to weave his magic again with Pato, then the Rossoneri are planning to present the player between August 10 and 15.

Madrid have also held lengthy negotiations and are determined to not miss out on the starlet, while Inter and Chelsea are also said to have registered their interest.


Well, it says the race is not over yet.

Plus they claim Milan are planning to present him in August. how could we?! he will not turn 18 before September... is it possible to sign him in August and wait until September and then bring him Milan?! better to wait until January I think.

Anyway, I'm a little bit worried about Madrid's interest. unsure.gif not so sure if I can call him a Rossonero yet...
Portman
QUOTE (m1ke @ Jul 27 2007, 04:10 PM)
Doesn't signing Pato rule out any other non-eu signing?
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Yes but as Galliani said: the OTHER player at the moment is non-EU but in 31 of August he'll be a European citizen. So no prob.

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jul 27 2007, 04:12 PM)
Plus they claim Milan are planning to present him in August. how could we?! he will not turn 18 before September... is it possible to sign him in August and wait until September and then bring him Milan?! better to wait until January I think.

As I said in this thread WE CAN LAND HIM NOW giving his father/mother a job in Milano.

FCPorto did the same when they got Anderson [now a Manchester United player]. But I don't think Pato will come now. It's just 3/4 months... we'd probably come in January.
Zed.D
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 27 2007, 06:49 PM)
Yes but as Galliani said: the OTHER player at the moment is non-EU but in 31 of August he'll be a European citizen. So no prob.
As I said in this thread WE CAN LAND HIM NOW giving his father/mother a job in Milano.

FCPorto did the same when they got Anderson [now a Manchester United player]. But I don't think Pato will come now. It's just 3/4 months... we'd probably come in January.
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Anderson played in Portugal. maybe Italy has different rules?

Anyway, you're right. why should we rush things when he's just a 17 year old kid?!
m1ke
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 27 2007, 03:19 PM)
Yes but as Galliani said: the OTHER player at the moment is non-EU but in 31 of August he'll be a European citizen. So no prob.
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Do you know when Ronaldinho turns EU?
Portman
QUOTE (m1ke @ Jul 27 2007, 04:43 PM)
Do you know when Ronaldinho turns EU?
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According to what Laporta said, he and Eto'o will get the EU-thing really soon. Probably until the end of August.

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/index.php?a...n=read&id=67876
m1ke
Before the 31st? wink.gif
Portman
QUOTE (m1ke @ Jul 27 2007, 05:53 PM)
Before the 31st? wink.gif
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Who knows? wink.gif
Portman


Pato new Nike earrings.

http://globoesporte.globo.com/ESP/Noticia/...55-4410,00.html

He said it's not "a demand" from Nike. The sponsor just gave that to him in Canada and he liked, so...
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 27 2007, 05:18 PM)


Pato new Nike earrings.

http://globoesporte.globo.com/ESP/Noticia/...55-4410,00.html

He said it's not "a demand" from Nike. The sponsor just gave that to him in Canada and he liked, so...
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I think they've found just about every possibly way of advertising. rolleyes.gif
Zed.D
Have any of our current players earrings?! I really don't know...
Tennie
I'd be willing to bet that none of them (save possibly Darmian) have braces!
Zed.D
Carlo Ancelotti had a pre-game conference today (for the Lecco game), he talked about many things, including Pato! since it is in Italian I didn't understand much and google translator didn't help either.

Su Pato: "E' un giocatore di grande prospettiva, non è un discorso immediato".

google translator -> On Pato: “a player of great perspective, is not an immediate speech (?!)”

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Ancora su Pato: "Nell'eventualità può arrivare solo a gennaio".

-> Still on Pato: “In the event it can only arrive to January.


It seems we have secured his signature, and he'll come in January. cool.gif
Portman
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jul 28 2007, 04:18 PM)
Carlo Ancelotti gave a pre-game conference today (for the Lecco game), he talked about many things, including Pato! since it is in Italian I didn't understand much and google translator didn't help either.

Su Pato: "E' un giocatore di grande prospettiva, non è un discorso immediato".

google translator -> On Pato: “a player of great perspective, is not an immediate speech (?!)”

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Ancora su Pato: "Nell'eventualità può arrivare solo a gennaio".

-> Still on Pato: “In the event it can only arrive to January.
It seems we have secured his signature, and he'll come in January.  cool.gif
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Calm down. It's not done yet.

http://www.tgcom.mediaset.it/controcampo/a...olo372806.shtml

TGcom says Leonardo is flying to Brazil Monday to talk with Pato's parents and offer a 2M/euros per year contract. They say his mother would like him to be near Kaka', such a religious player.

It seems that Milan already agreed with Internacional a deal about 20M/euros for Pato. Now it's up to Leonardo to convince the player and his parents.

He'd come only in January.
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