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OFFICIAL: PATO: Out for 3-4 weeks

Someone remind me, why didn't we sell him?

FFT!

How the **** can you rely on Pato when he's injured so often? And some (ridiculous) people wanted us to drop Ibra in order to give Pato a more key role

Hmmm something seriously wrong with him...lifestyle perhaps?
Anyways we seemed cursed for injuries this season not just Pato

This is why we need to get rid. It's easy to point a finger at MilanLab, but they're not the ones injuring him. They just do a bad job once a player is injured.

From earlier this season:



12 in two years

What about fitness coaches?! they don't have to "injure him". not knowing **** about what they're doing would be enough.

I still remember the Brazilian NT doctors criticizing ours over their treatment of Ronaldo (or maybe it was Pato?). getting injured so freakin' much, is not normal even for an injury-prone player. I can't accept it that this is just Pato being made of glass (or turned into that to be more accurate ). some people at the club cannot do their job right. either that or they've already ruined the boy's career and can't do anything about it (but personally I'm leaning more towards the first possibility).

This is really frustrating I'm beginning to think maybe we should sell him after all, for his sake! who knows what will happen to him under different personnel...

No one wanted to drop Ibra right now, but in 2 seasons time whether we like it or not, he'll most likely be gone.

As for Pato, I'd bet my @ss that should he go to another top team, the injuries would most likely be a thing of the past

And we had the possibility of selling him for €35 million only two weeks ago. Thank you very much Silvio.

pato is a quality player these injuries will soon go away...we need to keep faith in him

I think you're jumping the bandwagon too soon here.

I m hoping City just bid 20m and balotelli for Pato

If anyone would have to put up cash in that deal it'd be us. Don't even think City are that stupid.

I'd take a straight swap between Pato and Balotelli.

u guys can't even compare pato and balotelli....pato is much better than him...i would rather have pato with one leg rather than that immature brat

Well truth be told, that immature brat has progressed quite a fair bit. Since moving to England, his head just got a bit more tighter, and his game got a lot more tighter. I'll still vote for the duck than Balotelli. And frankly, I'd like him to not come here at all, fan of the club or not. But Balotelli has grown as a player, can't deny that.

I honestly can't believe what I'm reading. Why so bitter? The young guy gets injured, and all we get is a list of "sorry we didn't sell him" and "now he's worthless" one-liners. Can't believe my eyes. Guys this is still Milan, sometimes I honestly don't get why you're Milan fans when there are clubs out there who'd perfectly incorporate this "winner" mentality?

I don't really share the 'is much better than him' part. Clearly you are hating on him, very biased on this.

Balo is far better at this stage, in my opinion. Milan are front-runners for the title and Pato has made no impact at all. As for Mario, well, he came off early against Liverpool injured - they lost. Didn't play against United - they lost. Didn't play against Sunderland - they lost. He's massively important to the current top team in England, says an awful lot about his quality.

If we did a straight swap, we'd be the winners in that deal.

For about 2 seconds until he throws his toys out of the pram for not getting his way

Not going to even respond to the Pato hate from a couple of posters.

Like I said to x-off in the other thread, luckily none of you guys get to call the shots

How many games has he started at City? Has he thrown any tantrums this season?

It only takes a single thing to set him off, Mancini seems to know how to handle him and his antics.

+1.

Coming to this thread and reading some of comments makes me feel like I'm listening to a broken record. I mean, yeah OK, it's understandable some don't rate him anymore and want him to get sold, but how many freakin' times does one repeat something?

Or maybe he has matured as a person. He made lots of stupid mistakes when he was really young. People tend to mature as they age.

While I don't wish Pato any ill will and I love his potential but there is most definitely a good argument for at least discussing his potential sale. Seriously, how many injuries does he have to get and how much time does he have to miss before people admit this? Blindly deeming him untouchable is plain fanboyism.

It's not so much about fanboyism as legacy. One of the hallmarks of truly big clubs is the "homegrown" (also superstar bought at young age) talisman. Barcelona has many. Bayern and Manure have Rooney and Schweinsteiger. Who do we have for the next generation?
Nesta is the last true active champion we have. I'm pretty sure if we sold Pato and got say Neymar none of us would complain. But this for club hasn't rebooted with any genuine superstars from this present era. Pato is the closest we have. Ibra is great but how much longer does he have? I remember how sharply my then favourite player Batigol declined from 31 to 32 and the same happens to others all the time.

Pato is nothing compared to Thiago Silva.

Comparing apples and oranges, what a way to go.

Both fruits (players)... just saying.

That's what I'm talking about!!! just because both are fruits (players) doesn't mean you can compare them.

That's true but Silva came to Milan as a man. so he isn't really homegrown. He came as a great young-ish (24 isn't young again apparently) player and reached his peak with us. He's more a Milan's $heva than a Barcelona's Messi/Xavi/Iniesta ....ok I'll shut up now

Of course they can be compared, just not their full profile, but certainly a fair amount of their characteristics can be.

For instance, I can compare an apple & an orange on their list of nutrients and how beneficial they are to good health.

In this case case the fruits would again be the said players, while the 'good health' or 'body' will be the our club.

It all depends on what nutrients the body needs at the time given their intake from other sources at their disposal.

^^*sigh* I cannot believe we are actually gonna have a discussion and debate on the appropriateness of a 'figure of speech'. What a mad bunch we are!

I disagree. Sheva was already doing incredible and leading his team in the CL. Thiago was good but not nearly the nest defender in the world candidate he is now.

Is how, now?! UEFA doesn't seem to share this view. They way they overlooked him is criminal.

OK fair enough, Trini. this is too hilarious for me to ruin it by continuing to argue (no offense at all intended).

(I tell you, the backspace key is so underrated! I typed a lot in response to the whole Pato argument but I thought what's the point? we've been repeating ourselves too much over this issue)

what do you mean biased? its a fact! pato is much better than him...balotelli has never managed to score more than 8 or 9 goals in a season...all this talk of him being better is nonsense!
I mean seriously, fine pato hasn't been in good form this season but give the kid a break! i remember sheva once had a bad season with injuries and finished the season with only 5 league goals i wonder what this forum would of said if it was open then , just give the kid a break!

Nor is Pato. I know you disagree with that. And I thought you either forgot about Thiago Silva for a minute, since you didn't mention him, and I thought he should have been mentioned in your reply.


its a fact? Okay, that's getting simply too pathetic for me. Enjoy yourself.

listen just cuz you can't counter my comment don't call my opinion pathetic, okay? i gave you a nice statistic comment on that if u want but don't u dare call my opinion pathetic again

Haha
Fair enough, but just to be clear, I'm not against Pato; I was just voicing that there are exceptions in which two players from different positions can be compared.

+1. At this rate of injuries, and unless there will be a drastic change soon, all his potential will be worth nothing in a few years.

BTW, didn't we sent him to be tested by US specialists not long ago? His problems might be more than just milan lab messing up...

EXCAAATLYYYYYY +∞

But then $heva went on that season to score the winning CL goal and the very next year he had an awesome goalscoring haul (used to be my favourite player )

It saddens me how quickly fans in general turn on a player when he's in difficulty....There was a point last season when despite his obvious talent nobody would have dared said that Balo>Pato. We need to remember that ALL strikers go through rough patches the MAIN problem with Pato is that this is exacerbated by the fact that his good streaks have all been rather short and too sporadic since they have always been pnctuated by injury and the bad form that follows subsequently.

I didn't call your opinion pathetic, but you stating yours as a fact. And now you just assume I can't counter yours - which makes you act even more pathetic - but I simply was not bothered to do so.

Oh, and, one thing, if stats is all you look at, you never make right judgements when it comes to players. Not only is Balotelli scoring a lot this season, but also does a lot more than just scoring, all what Pato doesn't do.

You do realise Balo's never started more than 13 league games a season yeah?

As for Sheva, I think you'll find he contributed a lot more that season than Pato is now.

He thinks forwards are there only to score goals...

Whilst that is the most important thing (and I'd take a guess that Balo's minutes played: goals ratio is probably better, if not very close), Balo hasn't played as a central forward a lot. For Inter under Jose he played wide sometimes as Milito with the central guy, same goes for last season at City when Dzeko was the central man in a front 3.

Not a good comparison. No one would said something bad because Sheva (BTW, Sheva at Pato's age was CL top scorer (98) and led a team like Dynamo Kiev to a CL semis) was scoring a lot before and after that season and had no chronic injury problems like Pato does.

You are presenting it like Pato had few injuries and people just given up... It's 12 injuries in two years, he's barely getting into good shape and hurt again. It's only natural that people would be frustrated.

+1. that's why I said fair enough. they can be compared to an extent, but it's obvious enough that it's not right in general to compare two different players playing in different positions at different stages of their career. normally players from the same position are compared with each other (for example, Messi vs Ronaldo not Messi vs Ramos!)

As for the Balotelli comparisons, both him and Pato are talented IMO though I rate Pato more highly because when I compare their performances in their best seasons, I find Pato's to be better. Balo is yet to strike me as the kind of a player than can carry his team on his back with his goals while that's what Pato did in 2008-09.