Of course, not the whole management. That's what I meant, and that's why I posted my earlier comment. As an outsider looking in, it's just the Berlusconis that wants Pato to say - both father and daughter. Galliani in my opinion wants Pato out, and Allegri doesn't care either way. Same goes for the media and fans, they are divided.

The way they almost shipped him out a few months back to France, and the way Mr. B chipped in to stop the deal says it all. Berlusconi even came in and slammed Allegri in the media about the constant injuries Pato (and other squad members have) had to face, which the coach conveniently covered up in his last press conference. And the only reason Pato is flying to America is because Mr. B wants him to.

Otherwise, if the club cared, they'd have sent him for second opinion months (if not years) back.

This summer, either Pato or Ibra will leave. You'll see.

Ibra?

Can't see that happening, at least not this summer

If one stays, the other will leave. They hate each other.

Wow,nice conclusion there...

And that's...how did you come to this conclusion, would you care explaining?

He's got one leg and Italy and another in Albania. he knows stuff he don't know. at least that's what he said last time.

I don't think all's too well between Ibra and Pato, they certainly don't love each other. but I'm positive they can get along professionally. especially if Pato learns to play football again.

I remember Ibra hugging the f1ck out of him last year xD

Ibra just doesn't pass the ball alot.

Yeah, I just came back from Milan today. Had a really nice chat with Galliani.

No, really, I read an article yesterday that one of them will be leaving. As for the fact that they don't like each other, I thought everyone was aware of it by now.

Yes but there's a small difference between not liking each other and hating each other! I don't think they dislike each other now any more than they've ever had before. so in that case I wouldn't say one of them will definitely leave. they can get along.

I don't buy into that BS.


So every article we read should be taken as correct?

The Pato Ibra thing was a rumour from last season due to some bickering in a couple of games because of one not passing the ball to the other etc. But if you've notices Ibra practically has a bicker with every player on the pitch who does not do what he thinks should be done. That's Ibra on the pitch

Ibra and Pato look more than ok when I've seen training vids and as last season wore on they were doing a lot better together.

Ibra imo is 100% going to stay next season whether Pato stays or goes. Ibra is top dog at Milan no matter who the supporting cast in attack is and he knows this, and thrives on it. This is why I worry about Tevez as then you can see them stepping on each other's toes. Also, Ibra is having the season of his life at Milan, I don't think I've seen him this influential for any team in his career, not even Inter. Allegri plays to his strengths. Ibra could not have it any better, than he does at Milan, so imo another season is gauranteed. And I wouldn't be surprised to see Galliani fishing for an extension. Ibra = Serie A

I think the main reason why Pato chose to leave for PSG (until Silvio stopped him) was because he has zero social and professional relationship with Ibra, who, on the other hand, doesn't really like him. I am convinced of this. Of course, as I always say, you can believe what you want.

Pato did not choose to go to PSG

The only one that wanted Pato out from the equation was Galliani. Pato and Berlu put the breaks on the entire thing because Pato did not want to go and Berlu did not want to sell him.

I doubt Pato would give up being at a club like Milan because he and Ibra are not in love

They're professionals, you can't say whether or not they like each other because you simply don't know.

I love how you've suddenly turne the PSG-Pato thing into something that is due to personal conflict with Ibra because you read something yesterday...

Have you actually seen any video of Pato and Ibra talking together? They don't get along, everyone in Milan knows this.

Think what you want.

Yes, I'm sure your private eyes told you this...

Sorry but I find this entire Ibra vs Pato thing you're trying to sell ridiculous.

Then don't buy it. I see it irks you a lot, though.

Lol, it irks me?

What does? Your shameful Tevez promotion? You'd think you were his agent trying to whore him out to us.

I just don't buy into these things, sorry for not believing everything reported by the media. I just believe in professionals. If Pato is sold it has nothing to do with Ibra and everything to do with his injuries

And whether Pato stays or not, it certainly does not effect Ibra's position at Milan, which is the most important player in the team.

Can I see the link to the article or was it a print version?

You got worked up a lot for something I said, which in the end is not very important considering everyone forms their own opinion.

My shameful Tevez promotion? So, the fact that I want Pato out and Tevez in is shameful in itself? OK.

I believe it was on Milannews, but I can't find it.

Trying to play up the either/or scenario with Ibra and Pato is an indirect promotion of Tevez. Whether it's intentional or not.

And how is what I said worked up? So if anyone disagrees with what you read and deem correct than they get worked up?

So what's wrong with promoting Tevez? The fact you don't like him doesn't mean it's a bad thing.

You overreact every time there's negative comments about Pato, always try to defend him, disapprove of any speculations that might endanger his permanence at Milan.

That's mostly because I'm afraid of the other option

The only reason I "overreact" as you say is because everytime Pato puts a foot wrong you're quick to jump in and wave your Tevez flag. As if he's beating himself up with a hammer to get injured. It's not just about the player, but the attitude you've shown that irks me.

Same goes this week with El Shaa. We want younger successful players yet they can't make a mis-step or it's off with their heads

If my attitude irks you it's because Pato's situation has irked me to no end.

I thnk Pato's situation has irked everyone, but it's certainly not something he's bringing upon himself which is why I find it so laughable when you almost blame him for getting injured

Have I? I just want us to sell him, I don't believe in him anymore, but I don't think how I can blame him for his injuries. That's all MilanLab's fault for abruptly rushing his growth spurt.

I'll dig up a couple of posts after he's been injured. And whether you give up on him or not it's still up to Silvio in the end.

You think that any Milan fan is not fed up with this entire situation? Not just Pato, but the entire physical/medical issues that we've been constantly faced with this season. If it was just Pato than it's almost acceptable, he's injury prone, there's nothing you can do, but when it's the entire team going through these problems than I cannot find it in me to crucify or give up on a player with as much promise as Pato.

I think sending him to the US means they haven't given up on him as well as acknowledging that there are serious internal problems within the medical department in the club.

Galliani: "According to Meersseman - whom I rate highly - a definitive solution to Pato's injury problems was found in USA".

Hopefully. That would be immense.

That would be great,and hopefully we'll show enough faith in him...

Apparently they re-stabilized his body's equilibrium, which was the main reason of his muscular injuries. Here's hoping for the best.

Question is why now?They could have been done it anytime in the summer,and saved the kid some injuries.But,that just reinforces how bad our medical team is.

I suppose they thought they could solve the problem by themselves.

Most likely

Here's to hoping the kids injures are truly behind him. He came to Milan at a time when we were at one of lowest points in recent times, and despite that he gave us performances to be proud of; he delivered immediately and consistently, he attracted the attention of some of Europe's top clubs. Whatever happens moving forward, we can be proud of what he did in his time here with us.

Bravo Pato & Forza Milan!!



...curiosity though, how do you realign one's equilibrium?

Boban about Pato: "I thought he would be the future of Milan, now I think he should leave Milan, everyone would benefit from it. The player wouldn't have to deal with Ibrahimovic, the rossoneri would earn enough money that would allow them sign a top player".

Link

I think these last two months will be crucial for Pato's future. If he doesn't get injured and starts scoring regularly, I can see us keeping him. Otherwise, his exit will be inevitable.

Bah!

Hey, it's the truth, buddy. Pato and Ibra just don't see each other.

I know. In fact, I already knew that the first few matches both played together. I'm just sad it came to this. On form and fitness, Ibra and Pato could have been the best attack in the world (save for NT forwards). Anyway, I'd put the major blame for this on Ibra, being the senior and more experienced partner.

He may be scoring goals left and right, but if Pato leaves, Ibra won't stay too long either. We'll be left dry!

I think Pato is more at fault. I've seen Ibra trying to get in touch with him, but Pato always ignores the guy. It's like he has this absolute dislike for Ibra, for various reasons. And it's not like Ibra is the sweetest guy to get along with. Like you said, on paper, they should have formed one of the strongest partnerships around, but when attitude gets in the way, things always get complicated.

Indeed. But it's futile to speak about fault. We don't know 10% of what goes on behind closed doors.

All I know is, Ibra is our present day star, but Pato should be our future. I still believe we must find a replacement for Ibrahimovic rather then Pato. He's a thug, and I'd be the happiest person in the world if we managed to find a proper replacement and get loose from this dependency.

Agreed, guys. With both of you. Anyway, I did make a monster of a post a few days back, detailing Ibra and his attitude of being the biggest fish in the pond. That's at play here, sadly. And for better or for worse (most probably, worse) Pato has his own little world, and doesn't want to be a minion of the Swedish monster.

Unless they somehow patch up, realign their radars, fans of the clubs are who will be at major loss. Both are two of the biggest names in the game, and while it's true that both may be at fault in varying capacities (as I said in my post above), they can't realize their potential together. Pathetically sad, and sadly pathetic. Egos.

And that's keeping Pato's injuries out of it. If they've fixed him up, I'd like to see some extended showings from Pato and Ibra together. They haven't got that many chances together, but if they do, it should be an interesting watch. Both can't keep ignoring each other, if they play more than a few matches!

Oh come on!Pato was having trouble adapting to Allegri's system in general...

It's madness to sell him now if they've found a solution for his injuries IMO. I hope he and Ibra can finally put behind whatever it is that's keeping them apart, because Milan would be better off.


Is it me or is Boban saying this more for Pato's sake? like, implying Pato can't improve as long as Ibra is there...


+1.

He was fine in that system last season so I don't buy it.

If the injury issue is really over, and he will get his confidence back, all the other stuff are resolvable within the team.

Sad day for Pato, very sad.

Yeah, I think he didn't want to aggravate his injury so we took him off.

Awful decision. He needs to sit out for the season. If we had a must-win game on the last day for the title and we aren't leading, sure, what have we got to lose in putting him on? But to play him in a game that's already over.. come on Max, terrible decision.

Agreed. terrible decision. EL Sha should have come on.