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d'Arc.LP
Christian Ruiu on twitter: Pato will 100% be back against Cesena. He might be on the bench for the game against Arsenal. And more important, he will start against Juventus.
han2503
QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Feb 6 2012, 10:34 AM) *
Christian Ruiu on twitter: Pato will 100% be back against Cesena. He might be on the bench for the game against Arsenal. And more important, he will start against Juventus.

Shouldn't he have been out for a month? Thus he'd come in later than Aqui and Boateng...

I hope they're not rushing him back because of the injury/suspensions
Zed.D
Who's Christian Ruiu?
Jack Bauer
Journalist.
d'Arc.LP
Tassotti: "Out of all our injured players, Pato is the one who is closest to returning. The only players still need a bit of time."
han2503
QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Feb 6 2012, 10:46 PM) *
Tassotti: "Out of all our injured players, Pato is the one who is closest to returning. The only players still need a bit of time."

QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Feb 6 2012, 10:50 PM) *
Tassotti: "I don't know how long it will be before Boateng is ready again. We hope that he'll be ready within 10 days."

So going be what was posted above Pato could be back before 10 days, thus we'd have him for the @rse game at the earliest.

If we don't have Ibra against Juve, I think a Prince, Pato, Robinho attacking three could do well against Juve, because I feel that if Ibra is in there, then they'll just shut him down and the routes to getting the ball to him and we're out, but with Pato and Robs we could have more mobility and pace upfront.

We'll see. But Ibra will be a huge miss for that clash if the ban stays as is
Zed.D
Having Pato back is one thing, having him back in top shape is another. he needs time to get into shape (and the right frame of mind), something he couldn't achieve the last time he came back from injury.

But, at the risk of wrongly being accused of many things, I don't think we'll necessarily miss Ibra vs Juve - he rarely performs against them. on the other hand, Pato and Binho usually do well when Ibra is not around them, so who knows...
kurtsimonw
We need you. sad.gif
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 7 2012, 09:40 AM) *
Having Pato back is one thing, having him back in top shape is another. he needs time to get into shape (and the right frame of mind), something he couldn't achieve the last time he came back from injury.

Thing is, there won't be time for adequate reintegration and form-building. He'll be pushed right into the buring fire because of the dire situation.

As for Ibra against Juve...well, let's just say that I'd rather have a faster player facing the Barzagli-Chiellini duo then him. Also, this could actually mean Milan could play for once a good match, avoiding those pointless long balls.
Jack Bauer


Either she's getting fat or Pato knocked her up biggrin.gif
Zed.D
That's the face of a pregnant woman. no wonder she doesn't show up at games these days.
X-Offender
The famed Milan Lab? More like the infamous Milan Lab. rolleyes.gif
acid911
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 14 2012, 06:33 PM) *
Thoughts?

What thoughts do you need? sleep.gif sad.gif What has not been said about the turds at our fitness department?! Here and on other platforms. Playing with a players career, even life, for greedy gains. They did the same to Ronaldo. Let a player develop on his own, synchronize the body and muscles, and let nature take its course.

A thing like human body is the most complex thing on this planet, but these know-it-all doctors think they're beyond nature. I've followed Ronaldo's career ever since they bulked him up when he was a teenager, and let me tell you it was no fun, seeing a champion fall down every now and then.

Injury prone is one thing, but additional tinkering for growth while playing the most intense of sports? Bah!
Zed.D
^^ What I'm really curious to know is whether he would've grown on his own and had this problem anyways regardless of MilanLab. or if it was a natural growth he wouldn't end up like this.

It's a relief to hear his situation's not irreversible though. I always thought there could be some way to stop these injuries from happening or at least make them happen less. looks like under right people he can get there, but after three injury-plagued seasons and countless injuries, I'm not sure such people exist at Milan anymore.

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 14 2012, 06:27 PM) *
The famed Milan Lab? More like the infamous Milan Lab. rolleyes.gif


Yeah, that bit made me LOL.
acid911
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 14 2012, 09:11 PM) *
^^ What I'm really curious to know is whether he would've grown on his own and had this problem anyways regardless of MilanLab. or if it was a natural growth he wouldn't end up like this.

I see no reason why he wouldn't. unsure.gif Unless it's an extra-ordinary case like Messi, people do hit up where they should. And it's not like Pato was short when he came here, he was pretty much above average for his age. Simpler routines and sustained muscle buildup would (and should) have been on, not tinkering with natural growth.

Only if he got injured half the amount, I am dead certain Pato would be hitting 20+ goals regularly every season.
William405
Given we had Arsenal beat,and spaces were open.I really liked how Allegri put Pato in a advanced position for the counter attacks,it was a smart move for some more goals,sadly Pato was a bit rusty.But,we used his characterstics quite well.
Milan Are Brilliant
QUOTE (William405 @ Feb 16 2012, 05:35 AM) *
But,we used his characterstics quite well.

You mean - we gave him a maximum of 10 minutes. biggrin.gif
TriniKing_CE
Is it just me or does anyone else get really nervous once Pato begins to sprint now?
X-Offender
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Feb 16 2012, 06:14 PM) *
Is it just me or does anyone else get really nervous once Pato begins to sprint now?


That's exactly how I felt last night. unsure.gif
acid911
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Feb 16 2012, 10:14 PM) *
Is it just me or does anyone else get really nervous once Pato begins to sprint now?

Not me. sleep.gif I've seen him fall down after a good sprint more than a few times. If an injury is coming, it's coming! No wonder the guy is afraid to over-exert himself. I did use to get a little twitchy when Ronaldo went a sprinting, though.
d'Arc.LP
Nice gesture from Pato. When he was driving to Milanello today, he got stopped by two Milanisti who asked him for his autograph. Pato then asked them if they were going to Milanello, which they confirmed - and then Pato drove them to Milanello.
acid911
Is nice. king.gif
X-Offender
They were three fans, not two.
kurtsimonw
I don't know what to say anymore.
acid911
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 26 2012, 02:53 AM) *
I don't know what to say anymore.

Well there were three fans, not two. smile.gif
Fillipo Simone
Hah, patience, we need patience. He just came back and was pushed against two top teams. Surely, the best always keep going, but...patience is needed.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 25 2012, 11:09 PM) *
Hah, patience, we need patience. He just came back and was pushed against two top teams. Surely, the best always keep going, but...patience is needed.


That's not it. He looks like he's lost that touch which distinguished him. He's too rusty and static, and looks completely lost and out of place in our game. Somehow I fear all these injuries have seriously compromised his career.
Fillipo Simone
We'll see. It's early to tell. He's 22, his Milan career might be in jeopardy, but he can recover; it may however take a while (not only physical, but mental recovery).
Zed.D
+1. yes Pato was awful but he's a long way from the normal conditions. it astonishes me that some of you just can't wait, he's barely played 2 games since coming back for crying out loud.
X-Offender
Apparently Pato was subbed because he had some muscular problem. laugh.gif

Source: Sportmediaset
William405
I thought it was a precaution sad.gif
X-Offender
Same difference. He's reached such a low point that he can't even finish a game without getting injured, let alone play two games in a row.
kurtsimonw
It's starting to get silly now and it's why it's difficult to have patience with him.
William405
Sad really.
TriniKing_CE
Vidrio Pato... sleep.gif

drucurl
Come on kiddo get up....water slides down a duck's back don't let the rains of injury dampen your feathers....fly fly and soar above them all
Jack Bauer
Like Zed said few times - as thing stand now, he would be better elsewhere. I feel like he needs a fresh start with a new team and different medical treatment.
Zed.D
^^ Yeah, it'd suck see him with another team, but that'd be for the best. question is with the nightmarish season he's had so far, would any team offer enough money for us to let him go?

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 26 2012, 04:22 AM) *
It's starting to get silly now and it's why it's difficult to have patience with him.


I find it unbelievable that you always act like he's solely responsible for what's happening to him as you don't seem to have any patience problem with the people treating him. and please don't give me one of those "injury prone players are injury prone" things. what is happening to him far transcends that situation.
drucurl
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 26 2012, 04:08 AM) *
^^ Yeah, it'd suck see him with another team, but that'd be for the best. question is with the nightmarish season he's had so far, would any team offer enough money for us to let him go?



I find it unbelievable that you always act like he's solely responsible for what's happening to him as you don't seem to have any patience problem with the people treating him. and please don't give me one of those "injury prone players are injury prone" things. what is happening to him far transcends that situation.

+1
Pato is the youngest scorer in Italy to reach his mark. He's been through tougher health problems before.

Another issue that I'd like o examine is the controversy surrounding his motivation. Unless he's Zlatan level conceited I don't think he's resting on his laurels just yet. In fact HE KNOWS he hasn't won $#!t. So all the far out complains that he doesn't work on his game and isn't motivated are ENTIRELY BASELESS. Sure he might look lazy but after the kid pulls up with muscular problems without even the slightest bit of provocation wouldn't you be a bit hesitant to take off like a jet every time.

He has to work on getting his body to some reasonable level of resilience and Milan's med's have to work on a special fitness regimen for him

And ffs ppl please stop making baseless accusations that you have no proof for. If he plays languid like Pirlo while having a good run of fitness then by all means fire away. Till then it is ridiculously unfair to keep knocking him while he's down. Heck even Nesta has a couple bad games right after coming off his injury spells.
Dracoris
The kind of bad Pato was this week was not 'rusty' bad....it was 'i dont care anymore' bad. If you can't get motivated for Juve then what can you get motivated for? I think its time for him to take on a new challenge.
Danny
The problem with Pato is compounded by the baggage with Babs. It makes things very very complicated.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Dracoris @ Feb 27 2012, 01:31 AM) *
The kind of bad Pato was this week was not 'rusty' bad....it was 'i dont care anymore' bad. If you can't get motivated for Juve then what can you get motivated for? I think its time for him to take on a new challenge.


This. I don't see it just as a fitness problem anymore. The guy seems completely lost, out of place and an extraneous body to Allegri's game. He just doesn't fit in. And then there's the motivation excuse, too. I think it'd have been better for both parties if he was sold to PSG last month. No wonder he accepted their offer, just Silvio had to close everything off. dry.gif
Zed.D
QUOTE (Dracoris @ Feb 27 2012, 04:01 AM) *
The kind of bad Pato was this week was not 'rusty' bad....it was 'i dont care anymore' bad. If you can't get motivated for Juve then what can you get motivated for? I think its time for him to take on a new challenge.

Are you talking about his facial expression and all that or his work-rate and overall performance?
d'Arc.LP
Silvio Berlusconi: "Pato needs to regain the confidence in himself. It's my intention to keep him for the next years. I think that Pato is feeling well here at Milan and I hope that he will stay."
X-Offender
QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Feb 27 2012, 12:21 PM) *
Silvio Berlusconi: "Pato needs to regain the confidence in himself. It's my intention to keep him for the next years. I think that Pato is feeling well here at Milan and I hope that he will stay."


Well, of course, grandaddy. He'll be the father of your daughter's child, after all. Sure you wanna keep him. rolleyes.gif
drucurl
Pato was a favourite of Silvio and Milan in general....long before Babs....I find it incredible that these unfounded accusations about his character, work ethic etc get bandied about as an interpolation of this.

Reports of him missing training, spending the night out and showing up to games or training in poor shape are noticeably absent.....yet these supposed "fans" keep flinging mud on his character at his lowest point.

Meanwhile there's enough video evidence to prove that Ibra IS a vicious and violent player and fans clamour for less punishment......my my how much love a few goals against minnows can buy these days ohmy.gif
Zed.D
Best post evaaaa! tongue.gif

Seriously, I completely agree with the parts about Pato.
d'Arc.LP
And still it's interesting how Ibra made 27 appearances this season scoring 23 goals.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 26 2012, 08:08 AM) *
I find it unbelievable that you always act like he's solely responsible for what's happening to him as you don't seem to have any patience problem with the people treating him.

I've said numerous times before I want our medical staff completely overhauled. But none of them are Pato, they don't know how he feels, only he does. If he keeps coming back and getting re-injured, then that's partly on him.
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