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han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 13 2010, 08:26 PM) *
But no one was willing to spend 50m on Ambro han. tongue.gif

Technicality biggrin.gif tongue.gif

And at the time we weren't digging in the dumpsters for old freebies. We didn't really need the money. Ambro was just the guy we kept because he had been with us for a while, since Rino was the main DM in the team
X-Offender
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 14 2010, 05:44 PM) *
Technicality biggrin.gif tongue.gif

And at the time we weren't digging in the dumpsters for old freebies. We didn't really need the money. Ambro was just the guy we kept because he had been with us for a while, since Rino was the main DM in the team


Yeah, I remember Ancelotti bringing Ambro in only when were were leading 2-1 or 3-1 just to tighten the midfield. biggrin.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 13 2010, 09:22 PM) *
In his first few seasons he did get injured a lot, I think he had a gowth problem, that's why he always says he'll always be thankful to Barca for sticking with him.

The day Pato is sold will only be for money just like Kaka was sold. And really we shouldn't be wishing for it as I can't see us spending money to get someone that can come close to him. He had an injury plagued season, every player goes through that at one point or another, at one point Ambro was compared to glass as he used to spend entire months out with injuries. I'm sure you wouldn't have wanted to see him being sold just because he's injury prone wink.gif

Basically what X said. If someone was willing to pay big money I'd sell him and re-invest throughout the team.

But it's not like that. Ambro was our best player last season, yet wouldn't demand a big fee because of his age. Pato hasn't performed all that amazingly since joining, but his reputation alone would get us big money.
Zed.D
Hasn't performed all that amazing compared to who, exactly??
Jack Sparrow
If it's kurt I expect him to say Adam Johnson.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jun 16 2010, 08:46 AM) *
Hasn't performed all that amazing compared to who, exactly??


Compared to his potential.
samira
Messi stayed in Barcelona and I think selling Pato would be a stupied idea

Zed.D
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 16 2010, 04:01 PM) *
Compared to his potential.

Please enlighten me, how is that even a yardstick for what he does?! rolleyes.gif

I think Pato did live up to his potential (whatever it is) in his first 2 seasons. statistically speaking, he did even better than Messis or Hiuguains of world football (only mentioning this since people like to masturbate over the prospect of comparing Pato to them so much). no other teenage footballer in recent years, as far as I know, managed to score as many goals as Pato did when they were the same age.

This last season was a different story, as he spent about one/third of the season on the sidelines. still 14 goals in 25 games is not bad at all.

Statistics aside, he has scored many vital and/or brilliant goals since joining us, do I need to remind people of them?


Another interesting fact: no Milan striker in the past 3 seasons managed to score goals against as many diverse/different teams as Pato did - from the biggest teams out there (Inter, Juve, Real, Roma, Fiorentina, etc.) to the bottom-table ones (Siena, Reggina, Lazio, etc.). Pippo comes close but still doesn't match.

And the thing is, Milan has been nothing short of an inconsistent, sometimes even pathetic, team in these past seasons but Pato has showed he can perform nonetheless. I still remember comments like "Pato doesn't deserve the teammates around him" when he was about the only one trying and doing something positive.

If all of these are not good enough reasons to silence those who insist that he should be sold, I don't know what is. if people don't like Pato, they should just admit that and that stop bringing arguments that don't hold water.
Jack Sparrow
His haircut is not Milan quality. Sell Pato buy Wilhelmssonn.

X-Offender
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jun 17 2010, 12:47 PM) *
Please enlighten me, how is that even a yardstick for what he does?! rolleyes.gif

I think Pato did live up to his potential (whatever it is) in his first 2 seasons. statistically speaking, he did even better than Messis or Hiuguains of world football (only mentioning this since people like to masturbate over the prospect of comparing Pato to them so much). no other teenage footballer in recent years, as far as I know, managed to score as many goals as Pato did when they were the same age.

This last season was a different story, as he spent about one/third of the season on the sidelines. still 14 goals in 25 games is not bad at all.

Statistics aside, he has scored many vital and/or brilliant goals since joining us, do I need to remind people of them?


Another interesting fact: no Milan striker in the past 3 seasons managed to score goals against as many diverse/different teams as Pato did - from the biggest teams out there (Inter, Juve, Real, Roma, Fiorentina, etc.) to the bottom-table ones (Siena, Reggina, Lazio, etc.). Pippo comes close but still doesn't match.

And the thing is, Milan has been nothing short of an inconsistent, sometimes even pathetic, team in these past seasons but Pato has showed he can perform nonetheless. I still remember comments like "Pato doesn't deserve the teammates around him" when he was about the only one trying and doing something positive.

If all of these are not good enough reasons to silence those who insist that he should be sold, I don't know what is. if people don't like Pato, they should just admit that and that stop bringing arguments that don't hold water.


Dude, no one wants Pato to be sold, at least not for now. And it's not about numbers we're complaining about, rather the fact he should be more involved in every match and be the star of this team.
Zed.D
QUOTE (Football Italia)
Pato commits to Milan

Friday 9 July, 2010

Alexandre Pato says he would like to see out his contract at Milan amid speculation that he could leave the club.

The Brazilian striker has been frequently linked with moves to Chelsea and Real Madrid in recent months.

However, his comments to TV EBAND will reassure Milan's supporters.

Pato wasn't included in Brazil's 23-man squad for the World Cup, something that has reared its head again after the Selecao's exit from South Africa.

“I would prefer not to comment on the Selecao's performance in South Africa,” Pato said

“I am only concentrating on getting ready for Milan's training camp on July 20 and working hard so the next Brazil Coach, whoever it may be, will take me into consideration.

“Today I am only thinking about getting back to playing for my country with the green and gold shirt. I have a contract with Milan until 2014 and I intend to respect it.

“In 10 years' time I would like to return to Brazil and close my career with Internacional, the team of my heart.”
Bluesummers
he'll be in madrid long before he respects his contract tongue.gif *hides*
X-Offender
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jul 9 2010, 07:28 PM) *
he'll be in madrid long before he respects his contract tongue.gif *hides*


I think so too. But Pato is way too young, he won't leave till he's accomplished something important and won the Ballon d'Or with this team... if he proves to be good enough for that.
Coldest
QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 21 2010, 11:35 AM) *
Of course he won't. Until he makes about 5-6 years in here, there's no way he'll leave.


Maybe, do you want him to leave, don't you ??? dry.gif tongue.gif dry.gif tongue.gif
X-Offender
QUOTE (Coldest @ Jul 9 2010, 08:34 PM) *
Maybe, do you want him to leave, don't you ??? dry.gif tongue.gif dry.gif tongue.gif


Of course not! Pato is our pride and joy. goodheart.gif
Coldest
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 9 2010, 06:36 PM) *
Of course not! Pato is our pride and joy. goodheart.gif


I'm sad Dinho isn't... Could you explain me, why you dislike him ?
Jack Sparrow
*facepalm* Here we go. Knock em dead X-Off. biggrin.gif
X-Offender
Again? Well, to put it simply, I think our game revolves too much around Ronaldinho and the guy is not reliable anymore like he used to be. He'll make the usual assist every now and then, but he fails in everything else that constitutes the game of football. I think he's the pure incarnation of the slowness and slack and disincentive of our team in the last couple of years. The sooner we get rid of him, the better.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jul 9 2010, 07:28 PM) *
he'll be in madrid long before he respects his contract tongue.gif *hides*

I wouldn't be that hasty. Mourinho is Reals only chance. If they fail with him and loose patience, no one will join Real over Milan. I'm sure Kaka regrets Year One. Let's see how it turns out.
Zed.D
Thank god Stephanie is not around Pato anymore. we won't be seeing his silly heart shaped celebration thing anymore.

The Duck's got a new celebration and it's so cool cool.gif
Bluesummers
Pato:

"I am happy with the outcome and the game played. The coach asked me also a lot of sacrifice and I have willingly made available. The team is growing and this is' important ".


milannews.it
Jack Sparrow
Yeah exactly. The team is 'growing'. I think I know what he means, but it loses a bit in translation. 10ster...mind helping out. biggrin.gif

This is where the stoopid fish pops in, as if Tennie can't speak for herself.
d'Arc.LP
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jul 31 2010, 08:10 PM) *
Thank god Stephanie is not around Pato anymore. we won't be seeing his silly heart shaped celebration thing anymore.

The Duck's got a new celebration and it's so cool cool.gif


Does his new celebration has any meaning or he's doing that thing with his hand just to do something ... smile.gif
kurtsimonw
It was an odd celebration.
d'Arc.LP
QUOTE
Pato: ‘Milan inferior to no-one’

Alexandre Pato insists “Milan can challenge Inter on level terms for the Scudetto. I am very happy to stay at Milan, especially with Ronaldinho.”

‘The Duck’ missed much of last term with a series of injury problems and that inevitably contributed to the third-place finish.

Another ankle setback during the Emirates Cup against Arsenal raised further concerns.

“I’m better now, as the worries have passed,” he told the Corriere dello Sport. “Despite the small sprain, I never stopped training and working to fully recovery.

“When I felt pain, I was afraid that I’d damaged the ankle again, but it was nothing serious.”

Pato is not concerned at facing a Treble-winning Inter side and trying to regain the bragging rights at San Siro.


“Last season Milan were inferior to Inter and we lost both derby games, but it’s a different story now and we don’t feel inferior to anyone. Not even Inter. We have the same chances of winning the Scudetto.”

The fans have not been happy with the transfer strategy, as so far there have been very few changes to the side other than new Coach Max Allegri.

There were also repeated reports that Pato, Ronaldinho and Thiago Silva could be sold this summer.

“I am very happy to stay at Milan and especially happy that Ronaldinho is also here. In my view, he never seriously thought about leaving…”

Pato revealed the player he admires the most in the Inter squad when asked who he’d crown the Ballon d’Or.

“I’d give it to one from Wesley Sneijder, Andres Iniesta and Xavi. Choosing one of the three is too difficult.”

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vahid
last night Duck scored Brazil's second goal against USA. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKD_jSF7qbM...feature=related
and also he wore (what's the past tense of wear? tongue.gif ) #9..He begins to reminds me of Ronaldo-the real one.
Zed.D
Yeah it was mentioned in the national teams thread... just for the record, I love it when he wears Ronaldo's number, plays in Ronaldo's position, and scores a Ronaldosque goal happy.gif
Jack Sparrow
There is only one Ronaldo! sleep.gif
Zed.D
And one Pato!

EDIT: this ^ sounded better in my head..
X-Offender
Pato suffered a light injury in the ankle today at Milanello. His presence at the Berlusconi shouldn't be in doubt, though.

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Dracoris
Even though it isn't serious, its still scary that problems with his ankle keep popping up.
d'Arc.LP
If he get's injured again, like last seasons I'd be more than happy to sell him. In this point where we depend from him, it's more than important that he plays all season.
We don't need another Kaka in squad.
Zed.D
That last line doesn't make any sense to me.
han2503
QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Aug 18 2010, 09:57 AM) *
If he get's injured again, like last seasons I'd be more than happy to sell him. In this point where we depend from him, it's more than important that he plays all season.
We don't need another Kaka in squad.

Kaka only started to get injury prone in his last season.

Selling Pato because of a couple of injuries is ridiculous. In a couple of years time he'll be our only star on the team, and I'm 100% sure that he'll be sold, but only after he's had his best years at Milan, just like Sheva and Kaka
d'Arc.LP
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 18 2010, 12:29 PM) *
Kaka only started to get injury prone in his last season.

[b]Selling Pato because of a couple of injuries is ridiculous. [/b]In a couple of years time he'll be our only star on the team, and I'm 100% sure that he'll be sold, but only after he's had his best years at Milan, just like Sheva and Kaka


Last seasons Pato got injuries in winter and he wasn't fit until the season ended, it seams that those injuries comes periodically . Why would I like to keep a player that can play only 1/2 of season ? I personally don't see him playing for us more than 30 games this season and that's all becouse of injuries. I hope we sign a big name this season, cos' Pato is not a player who we can depend and trust, not yet, and probably never if those injuries don't disappear.
Zed.D
(OR! maybe our medical team sucks?! I still remember how they rushed Pato for the Napoli game which resulted in him aggravating his muscle problem and missing the rest of the season)
d'Arc.LP
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Aug 18 2010, 05:00 PM) *
(OR! maybe our medical team sucks?! I still remember how they rushed Pato for the Napoli game which resulted in him aggravating his muscle problem and missing the rest of the season)


I thought we have one of the best medical team on Europe blink.gif
Medical team didn't say Pato to play against Napoli, it was Leonardo and Pato himself, do you remember Pato saying that he was afraid to play even he was ready (that was 1-2 weeks before game against Napoli).
Bluesummers
We do have the best MilanLab (research centre) in the world.


In terms of actual medical staff lol, we don't come top 10.




We have 2 doctors that are high quality. Messchaelk and meerseman. The rest are retarted.
agenth
QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Aug 18 2010, 06:54 PM) *
Last seasons Pato got injuries in winter and he wasn't fit until the season ended, it seams that those injuries comes periodically . Why would I like to keep a player that can play only 1/2 of season ? I personally don't see him playing for us more than 30 games this season and that's all becouse of injuries. I hope we sign a big name this season, cos' Pato is not a player who we can depend and trust, not yet, and probably never if those injuries don't disappear.

What do you consider a big name?
And do you honestly think that's going to happen?

QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 18 2010, 09:32 PM) *
We do have the best MilanLab (research centre) in the world.


In terms of actual medical staff lol, we don't come top 10.




We have 2 doctors that are high quality. Messchaelk and meerseman. The rest are retarted.

Why do we need that many doctors?!?!
OR why aren't the best doctors the ones who have presidential veto rights (in consultations)
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (agenth @ Aug 19 2010, 03:00 AM) *
What do you consider a big name?


Paolo Maldini sad.gif
d'Arc.LP
QUOTE (agenth @ Aug 19 2010, 01:00 AM) *
What do you consider a big name?
And do you honestly think that's going to happen?


Ibrahimovic for ex. and like Braida said that's not impossible.
Dracoris
If Braida says its not impossible, it means they are at least trying.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 18 2010, 09:32 PM) *
We do have the best MilanLab (research centre) in the world.

In terms of actual medical staff lol, we don't come top 10.

We have 2 doctors that are high quality. Messchaelk and meerseman. The rest are retarted.

How can you say "the rest is r......."? Do you know them? You follow their careers and mistakes, decisions and routes? Oh please,...
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 19 2010, 02:19 AM) *
How can you say "the rest is r......."? Do you know them? You follow their careers and mistakes, decisions and routes? Oh please,...



go do a little research on milan medical facilities and staff, then you would know what i'm talking about. rolleyes.gif
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 19 2010, 11:07 AM) *
go do a little research on milan medical facilities and staff, then you would know what i'm talking about. rolleyes.gif

research on milan medical facilities and staff - and what would that research consist of?
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 19 2010, 03:17 AM) *
research on milan medical facilities and staff - and what would that research consist of?


read up on who the staff are; their history at the club; visit MilanLab; what they've done prior; what they do at milan; etc etc.



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but whatever, there is no point arguing so lets stop here. It is my opinion that we have 2 good doctors and the rest are not good. I base this on my own personal research. You may disagree if you wish.
Fillipo Simone
You see, I don't want to argue. Just I belive "retards" is a very bad word to describe persons you hardly know.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 19 2010, 03:43 AM) *
You see, I don't want to argue. Just I belive "retards" is a very bad word to describe persons you hardly know.



our cultures are very different then. Here in Canada, labeling someone as retarted could mean they are bad or not fit for their part.

I apologize if I've offended you in anyway. I'll use better wording in the future.
agenth
I remember a poster claiming to be related to Dr. Meerseeman, I think it was at R&B forums...
MizNelson
Yeah, that was a hoot. Nobody bought it, of course.
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