It's not just a case of him playing bad so I want him sold. It was a hypothetical question of us receiving a £50m offer. It's not like I'm saying we should consider any offer.


Unless dst returns soon, I'll be #1 and you'll be #3. Rookie.

^^ I think Boateng is having a far better season than last year. He's even scored more goals.^

It's only a 400 post margine. I'll stay up the entire night spamming the place if I have to!!!!!

Ok so let me ask you a more realistic question, as for 50m I'd probably give up Thiago if that meant we'd rebuild the team.

Would you sell him for 20 - 25m? And those are Euros not pounds. (The offer was in Euros not Pounds)

Scoring more does not necissarily mean a better season. Also, most of his goal this season have come from belters from outside the box, last season practically all of his goals, came from Pato/Robs and Ibra pushing wide while Boateng running into that space left behind and scoring the ball which is usually crossed by one of the strikers.

His contributions in the overall play for the team was far greater last season imo

I said "he's even scored more goals", that wasn't my main reason for saying he's been better than last season. Just like you can't assess his performances from how many runs he makes into the box (ironically, that's how he scored against Atalanta). That's the job of Nocerino now. Boateng has integrated into our system, though we'd benefit from him much more if he played as RCM and had a creative trequartista to depend on, besides Ibra.

He scored that way against Atalanta because he was played in the position we've been harping on about that he should be playing for months now. If he starts in the midfield 3 then his runs will be harder to track because he's coming in from deep.

When he's played in the AM position now, he's easily pushed in wide areas due to the heavy congestion that builds in the center of the pitch.

This is my point exactly. A player like Pato needs a proper attacking midfielder behind him. While Boateng is being played in a position that requires certain technical skills which he does not possess.

If Tevez does come, than the xmas tree formation you posted a couple days ago would be the best solution with the 3 attacking positions being rotated amongst the 4/5 strikers on the team.

What we need is someone like Eriksen. Young, fast, great vision. We should try to snatch him this summer, when his price is still about €20 million, otherwise in 2-3 years he'll be valued just as much as most talented prospects are nowadays, i.e. A LOT.

Which is what I've been saying, why spend that money on yet another striker when we could buy Eriksen, which is someone we actually need, for the same price

No. I wouldn't. We're at a stage where prices are getting out of control and while I think the Torres and Carroll transfer don't necessarily reflect a true current market value, Pato should still go for a lot of money. I think anything around and above the e35m/e40m mark I would consider.

Than we agree.

Even though at 35m I'd still be very reluctant, it's still a lot of money

But if we sell Pato, we could sign both Tevez and Eriksen.

Let go of Pato to get a whining mercenary who will most likely complain about being homesick in 2 years time. No thanks.

If Tevez comes, he should be an extra, not in place of someone else. He's too much of a risk to throw away someone like Pato on

I don't know about you guys but I refuse to believe there's a £50m offer for Pato. not even by oil-rich clubs like City or PSG. not until Pato starts to shine again (in which case, I wouldn't sell him anyway).

You know what sucks? no matter what his form is, Pato will always be in danger of being sold. when he's not on form like now, and when he is on from like before. the only difference is the suitors are different, right now only rich but nobody clubs are after him, but once he gets back to top from expect to see some top clubs in the mix as well. we just can't seem to be able to hold on to our star players anymore. I'm sure Silva's turn will come sooner or later.

Silva will be a Barca player within 24 months in my opinion. They'll want him to replace Puyol and they need a CB anyway.

Nah, I can't see that happening anytime so. We've been signing many good players lately in order to become competitive again. There wouldn't be a point in weakening our team in that respect.

I think we'll pay out way City want for Tevez now as Inter are in the picture. Summer 2013 I think we'll start hearing, again, about how we need to balance the books and we'll sell him for big money.

There's only so much a defender can get you, and I can't see Barca breaking the bank for a defender either. Pep is more than happy playing Mascherano there. The club can purchase a good CB as backup.

I'd expect an astranomical bid for Silva from Real though. I mean they did pay ridiculous money for a CB like Pepe. So Silva could be worth as much as Kaka was for them...

Problem with Barca is they have such quality and depth at every position it seems, that I wouldn't be surprised if they were happy to blow their budget on 1 player in a position they lack (or will lack by summer '13). I'm hoping they don't go for Thiago as I'd like him to be a future captain, but he simply is the best around right now.

That he is. But I agree with x-off, you'd find it hard to believe that after all this effort to rebuild what was a nearly dead squad, they'd squander all that work by selling the player who is at the heart of our backbone. Just wouldn't really make any sense.

I didn't even notice the dst was gone!

Pato the new Kaka?

Absolutely. Will Pato follow suit? From what I've been reading, apparently Pato called Galliani and told him that "I love Milan way too much, I don't feel like leaving. I wanna stay". I think Pato's too young and wants to build his own story here before leaving for the likes of Barcelona or Madrid. Not sure if he's got what it takes, though.

Yeah but if Pato follows suit and leaves in the summer, it'll be him who's the devil in all this, just like Kaka was made to be. simply because he left after saying he loves Milan and wants to stay. I'm sure people will fail to see the other side of the things, just like with Kaka.

Oh, well....

Let's just say it was mutual,and get on with it

I'd say in the end what Galliani tried to do was just business (alla the Godfather!) which would be fine if he didn't brag about the family BS all the time. there's no such thing about Milan anymore.

Agreed,I couldn't believe that Galliani would push Pato out at first.

Galliani has lost a lot of credibility with this entire thing and how it played out. He's been made to look like an idiot and it's his fault.

If we didn't have any money than why get involved in the first place?? Especially when our attacking department is the last area that should be of concern to him.

You think Gallaini on his own decided to sell pato without discussing with anyone else? Its anything but Gallaini's fault.

Imo he asked Allegri on his oppinion, but I don't believe that Silvio was really involved in the process, he just gives the ok when it's time, and clearly selling Pato for 25m was not ok for Silvio, and I agree with that completely.

Suitors will surely come knocking for Silva one day, but something tells me he will remain loyal to Milan.

This is your heart speaking, I can feel that. Anyway, it won't be the same. Kaka's case was more complex: the whole entourage was annoying - just remember the brother, the wife and above all the agent-father. It made him much less innocent then Pato is or will be at the moment.


Yet, when did Galliani last refer to the "big family atmosphere"? One should remember that it was a long time ago. I think we've turned a new chapter with Allegri, and from that moment on, no one is mentioning the family stuff any more (not that it's directly related to Allegri's appointment).


Credibility? Naah, Moratti was a clown for years, then he miraculously became the king. I don't think this failure will bring to us any harm.

Fair enough, Fillipo


Not just Galliani, Berlu and the players say it sometimes. even the newcomers say it on day 1.


+1. I can't see what's so tragic about what happened. surely that can't erase Galliani's achievements over the past 3 decades!

Maybe credibility was to strong a word, but he's looking like a tool in the media atm after saying we've pulled out of all talks, especially after all the parading around in the media and taking pictures for the media with Tevez.

It just simply doesn't look good for him or the club for that matter

I agree 100% With Moggi. The guy has a keen eye for talent and shrewed dealings in the Mercato. He's been spot on with the vast majority of his predictions at well. Contrary to what the average myopic fan things. selling iBra and keeping Pato is the best way forward in both footballing and economic terms.

This suggestion comes from a guy who bought iBra himself when he was far less productive than Pato at his age.
Enough with the silly nepotism suggestions, Allegri makes him ride the pine harder than either Leo or Ancelotti

Well if you agree with him then I rest my case

Maybe, but I don't see any important consequence for the future. It will go away fast.

anyone wanna give psg a 'redial'

I thought Pato did OK in the first half, then vanished in the second. Though what pissed me off was his egoism. He never passed the ball to Ibra, almost like trying to avoid him. It's plain obvious that there's no feeling between the two, but only Ibra seems to do something about it.

I've been defending Pato lately and I'm still eager to wait and trust him yet...I can't say I'm satisfied. He looks clumsy - a zillion times tonight he made slight but important mistakes: his dribble wasn't good enough, the wrong turn, the wrong first touch or ball control...naah, I fear the kid must get some help. Someone has to show him the right way, he's 22, he could do still do it, but tonight - well you simply could feel he won't score.

He's following in the footsteps of Robinho. They've both been dreadful in the games they've played this season. When Cassano was ruled out for the rest of the season, I said to myself that it ain't so dramatic, considering we still have Pato and Robinho. Right now, I'm cursing what happened to him. The guy was in a superb form, him and Ibra formed a fantastic duo that would have plunged this awful Inter side to the ground. Not to mention the guy has (and plenty of it) what we lack more than anything else right now: creativity.

Cassano surely could have been useful for us today. He is the man!

Get well soon!

with Barca and Real lusting after him, PSG wanting him as well as Chel$ki and whomever else and Materazzi urging Inter to buy him it seems that it's only the football pundits of the internetz that don't rate/value Pato

When was the last time either Barca or Real were "lusting after him" ?

I remember a few years ago there were rumours of cash + Ramos or something like that. But that sounds like it was just speculation and nothing to it.

Chelsea have been interested in him for a while as he is always mentioned in relation to them. I don't know how muc truth there is to it though.

Personally I believe that atm, no matter how rich a club is, we won't be getting any record breaking bids for Pato. Simply because his performances as of late do not demand such high transfer fees. Which is why it would be ridiculous to sell him now as we have nothing to gain from it, but could potentially stand to lose a lot

Chelsea were only interested in him when Ancelotti was there.

Even when the entire saga was going on with PSG, a lot of reports mentioned Pato as a transfer target for Chelsea. Like I said, this could be all BS.

My main point is that atm Pato won't command a huge transfer fee which is why the management cannot afford to sell him now

Allegri: "Pato will get checked by the doctors tomorrow, who will evaluate the extent of his injury."

It looked like another muscle injury. If so, it'll be his 15th I think in recent years. The guy is cursed.

I'm so not gonna check this thread for some time!

LOL, this guy is hopeless.