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han2503
Robinho made the same gesture, I think they were trying to use it as a shout out to the Chinese fans, but it backfired badly imo.
CHU-LIP
QUOTE (dst @ Aug 7 2011, 04:42 PM) *
I don't think he's making fun of anyone, I think it's thank you of sorts to the Chinese fans but it's stupid if that's what it is as I said above. In any case since Darunia says he's offended my opinion does not really matter.

Exactly, the opinion of Western people doesn't matter. ( So mine doesn't too. tongue.gif )

And if it's really meant as a thank you or gesture, it is a huge fail, and really dumb.
Fillipo Simone
It's really stupid. I don't get how someone didn't warn them or made sense into them. Seedorfs autograph on the camera for instance was cool and could be interpreted as an hommage, but that gesture...is just plain stupid, and well, offensive to some.
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (dst @ Aug 7 2011, 10:42 AM) *
I don't think he's making fun of anyone, I think it's thank you of sorts to the Chinese fans but it's stupid if that's what it is as I said above. In any case since Darunia says he's offended my opinion does not really matter.

+1

QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Aug 7 2011, 01:39 PM) *
Exactly, the opinion of Western people doesn't matter. ( So mine doesn't too. tongue.gif )

And if it's really meant as a thank you or gesture, it is a huge fail, and really dumb.

Agreed.
Zed.D
"Racist gesture"... LMAO. in a world so full of hatred and "serious" racism, it's funny to see people actually get offended over something like this. no offense Darunia.
Darunia
I don't think it's "racist", just stupid and immature. He's only 21, so I'm not surprised.. but he's part of Milan and should be classier than that. Still a duck fan, though.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Darunia @ Aug 7 2011, 08:27 PM) *
stupid and immature.

I don't think 2 words describe Pato better than these. Fortunately his talent matches his stupidity.
William405
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 7 2011, 10:30 PM) *
I don't think 2 words describe Pato better than these. Fortunately his talent matches his stupidity.


Really?Do you like know him in person?

I think you guys judge too much,while knowing too little.It's silly how much you criticize.

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Aug 7 2011, 10:13 PM) *
"Racist gesture"... LMAO. in a world so full of hatred and "serious" racism, it's funny to see people actually get offended over something like this. no offense Darunia.


Agreed.

kurtsimonw
QUOTE (William405 @ Aug 7 2011, 08:45 PM) *
Really?Do you like know him in person?

He got married as a teenager. Then divorced. Then started going out with his bosses daughter.

I don't know him in person. That doesn't mean I don't have an opinion on his immense level of stupidity.
Zed.D
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 7 2011, 11:22 PM) *
He got married as a teenager. Then divorced. Then started going out with his bosses daughter.

I don't know him in person. That doesn't mean I don't have an opinion on his immense level of stupidity.

Those acts mean immense stupidity to you? what about his many interviews, for example? I think you're just as immature judging someone like that.
William405
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 7 2011, 10:52 PM) *
He got married as a teenager. Then divorced. Then started going out with his bosses daughter.

I don't know him in person. That doesn't mean I don't have an opinion on his immense level of stupidity.


Well,that's the way you perceive it.

First,you said it yourself he was a teenager,he probably wasn't mature enough to make correct decisions,and his parent probably didn't step up,and take their role.We do things when we are young,things we regret,I'm sure everyone passed through such phases.As for dating the bosses daughter,I don't see any problem it assuming that Pato and Barbara are now adults,and deal with things rationally.

His immense level of stupidity?That's a bold statement.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Aug 7 2011, 10:04 PM) *
Those acts mean immense stupidity to you? what about his many interviews, for example? I think you're just as immature judging someone like that.

Immense stupidity is surely a overstatement. But his actions showed he's really immature in some ways, and sometime acts without thinking twice. That I believe cannot be disputed.
William405
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 7 2011, 11:17 PM) *
Immense stupidity is surely a overstatement. But his actions showed he's really immature in some ways, and sometime acts without thinking twice. That I believe cannot be disputed.


Who doesn't? biggrin.gif

I just see it as really insignificant to even be discussed.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Aug 7 2011, 09:04 PM) *
Those acts mean immense stupidity to you? what about his many interviews, for example? I think you're just as immature judging someone like that.

Yes, I'm very immature.

I don't speak Portugese or Italian, I can not really comment on his interviews.

QUOTE (William405 @ Aug 7 2011, 09:04 PM) *
His immense level of stupidity?That's a bold statement.

Yep. They weren't married long and no doubt the former wife will be entitled to a tidy some of money. He really didn't need to rush into it like that. No teenager should get married because, generally speaking, you can't know a person well enough to know its the right thing to do. Obviously since they divorced, it wasn't the right thing.

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 7 2011, 09:17 PM) *
Immense stupidity is surely a overstatement. But his actions showed he's really immature in some ways, and sometime acts without thinking twice. That I believe cannot be disputed.

Maybe a slight overstatement. biggrin.gif
William405
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 7 2011, 11:46 PM) *
Yep. They weren't married long and no doubt the former wife will be entitled to a tidy some of money. He really didn't need to rush into it like that. No teenager should get married because, generally speaking, you can't know a person well enough to know its the right thing to do. Obviously since they divorced, it wasn't the right thing.


That's entirely his parents mistake in my opinion.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (William405 @ Aug 7 2011, 11:05 PM) *
That's entirely his parents mistake in my opinion.

Can't agree with you - this is the 21st century, parents don't have such a decisive role smile.gif
Dracoris
It was dumb, sure, but I can't believe its been made into that big of a deal. But I'm Western so what do I know. smile.gif
Zed.D
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 8 2011, 12:16 AM) *
Yes, I'm very immature.

I don't speak Portugese or Italian, I can not really comment on his interviews.

Oh you don't have to! many of them have been posted in your mother tongue in this thread.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Aug 8 2011, 08:50 AM) *
Oh you don't have to! many of them have been posted in your mother tongue in this thread.

It's harder to judge something in text and I imagine half of what he actually says/means in lost in translation anyways.
Zed.D
That's poetry which gets lost in translation... but we don't have to agree on everything smile.gif
d'Arc.LP
Alexandre and Barbara photos from Sardinia








Bluesummers
ahhahahahhaha laugh.gif
kurtsimonw
Disaster waiting to happen. It can't end well.
Bluesummers
yup bye bye pato soon enough
d'Arc.LP
Pato back at Milanello



Robinho and Alexandre Pato were back at Milanello with the former taking part in training and the latter working out in the gym.


MILANELLO- Milan trained in the afternoon ahead of the opening league game of the season at Cagliari on Saturday.Training started at 17.30 on the raised pitch on the shoulder of the gym, with a warm-up lasting for around half an hour and ending with runs over the small hurdles.

The session continued a ball possession drill on a 30 metre by 30 metre pitch followed by a match in the same area with four small goals. The session ended with a further 20-minute match.

Pato and Robinho returned in the afternoon in time for training although Robinho took part, with Pato working out in the gym.

Zlatan Ibrahimovic went through a personalised programme before finishing off in the gym. Clarence Seedorf ran 100m by 100ms while Stephan El-Shaarawy underwent a performance test, first in the cover pitch and then the raised pitch. Valoti trained in the sanded area.

Tomorrow’s session will take place at 10.00.
X-Offender
I hear that Thiago Silva and Yepes will return later and that they won't be available for the game against Cagliari. That leaves only Bonera and Nesta at disposal.
d'Arc.LP
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 24 2011, 04:15 AM) *
I hear that Thiago Silva and Yepes will return later and that they won't be available for the game against Cagliari. That leaves only Bonera and Nesta at disposal.


They'll be back on Thursday (tomorrow). I think they will be in disposal against Cagliari.
X-Offender
QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Aug 24 2011, 04:33 AM) *
They'll be back on Thursday (tomorrow). I think they will be in disposal against Cagliari.


I heard otherwise from Mediaset. It's true they're back tomorrow, but apparently Allegri won't even consider calling them for Cagliari.
Fillipo Simone
And what about Mexes? Why only Nesta and Bonera?
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 24 2011, 09:41 AM) *
And what about Mexes? Why only Nesta and Bonera?

Mexes is still recovering from the injury he got while playing for Roma

I wonder why we let them get the extra day when they know that ohmy.gif Bonera ohmy.gif is the only other option...

I can see this is going to be a mix and match, patchwork game. Hopefully we get the 3 pts without too much trouble. Or injuries, since we seem to be picking up 1 or 5 per match lately
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 19 2011, 03:28 AM) *
Disaster waiting to happen. It can't end well.


Why so negative Kurt? We have no clue, aside from what Blue feeds us 96.gif
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 24 2011, 05:08 AM) *
Mexes is still recovering from the injury he got while playing for Roma

I wonder why we let them get the extra day when they know that ohmy.gif Bonera ohmy.gif is the only other option...

I can see this is going to be a mix and match, patchwork game. Hopefully we get the 3 pts without too much trouble. Or injuries, since we seem to be picking up 1 or 5 per match lately

+1
d'Arc.LP
New pics from his vacation in Sardinia:





source: Alexandre and Barbara photos from Sardinia pt. 2
d'Arc.LP
kelvinbayer
Lets hope something comes out of this!
Bluesummers
damnnnn barbara is sooo sexy wub.gif
Zed.D
I always forget his Birthday. have a Happy one Duck.
TriniKing_CE
Happy Belated one to the Duck! devil.gif devilsmiley.gif

drunksmilef.gif

d'Arc.LP
Alexandre Pato training with Brazil, September 2011 :





more pictures : Alexandre Pato's Fan Page
arivanjj
cool pic that first one smile.gif
acid911
Yup, very artistic. Both of them! king.gif He practically looks like a duck coming out of water in the first one!
drucurl
This kid is going to be a hybrid of $heva and Ronaldo:

Ronaldo:

speed (a bit)
first touch (although it has been poor of late)
dribbling (about 70%, again not seen much since Carletto)
eye for goal
finishing

$heva:
Aerial Ability
Free kicks
can attack wide or CF


What he lacks:
Either Ron or $heva's footballing brain (can improve with time although unlikely)
Passing ability either
$heva's work rate
Ron's decision making


All in all I think us Milanista's are truly blessed to have a forward with such potential. A source of anxiety is whether he can unlock it ALL. If he does he will surely surpass $heva but still finish below Ronaldo

If he doesn't he won't be mentioned in the same breath as these guys again (fingers crossed)
acid911
Couldn't agree more if I tried, drucurl. king.gif Excellent analysis! And yeah, definitely, these next 2-3 years are going to be very interesting. I like to tell every football fan I know to bring me a striker like Pato (of his age), and there is none in world football right now. Pato truly is a gem!
KillerMax
Sheva was and always will be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ronlado

Sheva at his prime was one of the fastest footballers on the planet
He scored Free Kicks
He dribbled with Fabulous technique (meaning the only category Ronaldo can trump him, he is still as good as any)
He was more tactically aware than Ron
He possessed more strength
Excellent header of the football

Ronlado on the other side was a Inzaghi-Zico morph without the heading ability.
d'Arc.LP
QUOTE (KillerMax @ Sep 15 2011, 03:50 AM) *
Sheva was and always will be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ronlado

Sheva at his prime was one of the fastest footballers on the planet
He scored Free Kicks
He dribbled with Fabulous technique (meaning the only category Ronaldo can trump him, he is still as good as any)
He was more tactically aware than Ron
He possessed more strength
Excellent header of the football

Ronlado on the other side was a Inzaghi-Zico morph without the heading ability.


Oh, I still remember his goal against Lazio, when he came in from bench and scored a 35m free kick. dreamyeyesf.gif
Jack Sparrow
QUOTE (KillerMax @ Sep 15 2011, 08:20 AM) *
Sheva was and always will be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ronlado

Sheva at his prime was one of the fastest footballers on the planet
He scored Free Kicks
He dribbled with Fabulous technique (meaning the only category Ronaldo can trump him, he is still as good as any)
He was more tactically aware than Ron
He possessed more strength
Excellent header of the football

Ronlado on the other side was a Inzaghi-Zico morph without the heading ability.


Well Ronaldo was a better finisher. Proved a hit in 3 different leagues. Shone for his NT. Won a WC.

I think it's a close race...but for me Ronaldo just edges it.

But I love Sheva more.
KillerMax
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 15 2011, 12:13 AM) *
Well Ronaldo was a better finisher. Proved a hit in 3 different leagues. Shone for his NT. Won a WC.

I think it's a close race...but for me Ronaldo just edges it.

But I love Sheva more.


When I think of Sheva, I only can see him in a Milan shirt. Funny how my brain just does that smile.gif
Jack Sparrow
More or less. Sheva pulled heartstrings like few other players I've seen.
acid911
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 15 2011, 10:13 AM) *
Won two WCs.

Corrected. wink.gif 1994 and 2002.
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