Has to be said that 5+ games into the new season and Pato is a mere shadow of what he was last year. Tail end of last season I rated him as one of the best in the world, that is how good he was looking.

Now he's not even the best striker at the club.

Pato has the ability, there is no doubt about that. But this current regime is crushing him - as I said a number of weeks ago and was strongly disagreed with by a few of you on here, he looks lost. He doesn't look happy, he is miles off form, and the pressures of the club on his shoulders are making him wither away, rather than responding.

Right now, it saddens me to say it, but Milan is the worst of the elite European clubs right now to get the best out of Pato and develop him properly.

Instead of carefully nurturing him, Leo is basically putting all our hopes on him - because Dinho sure isn't responding. It's not the right way to develop the lad - and I fear that all his potential to be maybe the best player in the world is going to fade because he wasn't trained properly.

For the sake of Pato's career, unless things change dramatically between now and January, and I can't see that happening, I would accept a major bid for him and let him go to a club where he can develop as he's meant to.

Leo's not the manager to get us out of this, and Pato's not capable of doing anything without help.

I still like Leo as a person, but I do believe it's easier to get a good manager than a god given talent. And I wouldn't sell Pato at all.

However if he does ask to leave, I'd sell him in a heartbeat. There's no point then. And the money can be used elsewhere.

+1

With his brace in the 3-2 victory at the Bernabeu, Pato became the youngest ever Rossoneri player to score in the Champions League, aged 20 years and 49 days.

He is 15 days younger than the previous record holder Yoann Gourcuff, who was 20 years and 64 days old when they beat AEK Athens 3-0 on September 13 2006.

(From Football Italia.)

Wow, thats sweet and kind of sad that the youth policy was non existant before 2000+.


Hey zed, whenn do you think perez will offer 100m for him? I'm gonna say Next july.

I dare him, that ************! I will go all the way to Madrid and assassinate him myself!

Btw, it's sad we didn't play in the CL last season. his record could have been much better now.

wowza! now thats some passion! good on you lad.

I think he did it last night.

LOLs ! so true, I bet silvio and perez are talking on the phone as we speak

DON'T EVEN JOKE!

first CL goal, gets a brace @ the bernabeu in a late win.

stuff of legends

I didn't realise that was his first goal. Does that mean it took him until his 2nd season (in the CL) to score 1? No comment.

He got to play in only two CL games two seasons ago, vs Arsenal, and last season there was no CL for us. what'd you expect? (don't make me mention Gila's fantastic CL record!)

I think scoring a winning brace at the Bernabeu was totally worth the 2 year wait!

I agree with you

Pato, as the rest of the team, seems to finally be getting over the loss of Kaka and starts to trust in himself rather wait for Ricky to feed it to him. Though AC still need a good ACM as Pirlo nor Ambrossini clearly not cutting it. Once the puzzle is complete (January hopefully) we will stuff maurinhos mouth with his own S@#$ next time we meet Inter.

Pato should work on his speedy first touches, he has ruined two great chances in the last two Serie A games. And, to avoid getting Zed mad, I'm not saying that he won't or that he can't or that he's not good enough for his age or anything else that is bad, I'm just mentioning it. Let's hope this is enough.

+1 Agreed...

for zed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O2-Rr4s5AI...feature=related

Pato's dribbling is still deserting him - sometimes he manages to head up a head of steam, but inevitably it goes nowhere.

I think we should alter the way he is deployed, because recently he's being used as a right winger and I don't think that's getting the best from him.

No...I think he's young enough to learn that role, for one. And it's not like he's not getting scoring opportunities. He was played in the same position against Madrid, and he ripped Marcelo a new one.

Today was an offday for him.

Plus, it's not a winger. This is Leo channeling the old Brazil of Jair, Pele and Tostao. Pato will be our wing forward...and I like it. He's got the pace and the trickery.

He's not a winger. He's a RF. Its a similar role to what messi plays. Starts wide and then attacks the middle. A winger would attack down the side to the byline and either cross or pass. I've not seen him do that once.

That's what I said.

So did Navas for Sevilla. Marcello is a terrible defender.



He's not really shown the above this season though, that's my point.

Maybe winger was the wrong word, I agree he doesn't cross, but he's operating in a position whereby we see him running at left backs and defenders and usually failing to beat them.

I feel he should be deployed as a SS.

I'm falling for him.....slowly.....

does anyone have video of the brace he scored in the friendly?

Was this friendly decided on the fly or something?

Hey, at least we kept a clean sheet.

And Pippo hit the post.

any vid ??? highlights something like dat

Guys, what are you talking about ???

This:

What was the line-up of Milan ? Was Hunter playing ? Or meybe in spite of easy game Ronaldinho was in starting 11 ?

We played our own youth team and won 2-0? Am I reading that correctly? If so, that's bloody awful.

My thoughts exactly! We can't score more then 2 goals unless its against leaky Real now??

Milan is a 2 goal team... we just switched off the engines at that point. Besides, you guys should be praising the youngsters!

I don't think they even cared...

The title in the main goal.com page was 'Carlo's astonishing attack on Pato"!! classic goal.com

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Anyway, considering that these quotes are translated accurately, I have to say I feel very sorry for Carlo. he gave up on his ideas because the most junior member of the team didn't like it?

If it's true, it's pathetic (a rookie handled Pato but you couldn't). if it's not true, it's still pathetic (cause it'd be a bad excuse). no wonder why I never became his biggest fan.

I don't believe Carlo said this for a second, he was barely playing Pato at times last season, the moment he stopped scoring and Pippo was fit he was back to the old Kaka, Seedorf, Pippo formation

I don't really think he had that mcuh influence on Carlo's decisions. Also we could never have played like this under Carlo. What continue to play Rino and Ambro as wingers, restricts Pirlo to just being a DM and continue to let the slowest player in the game to play in an attacking position?? I'm sure Carlo would have had the b@lls to play like this... yeah right!

All I know is that Pato and Dida played and we won 2-0 (our millionth 2-goal outing). The ensuing lack of coverage is understandable.

As of current form and if he continues such form, I predict 21 goals from Pato at the end of the season.
Inzaghi, 10 goals
Boriello 8 goals
and Huntelaar 6 goals

A total of 45 goals from our strikers...

I agree, I think your very close to being correct. 45 sounds like a good number.

Unless Pato goes on a killing spree and start bagging braces every game, we might see 30 goals from him....it's unlikely though...

Well, that doesn't entirely depend on Pato. we certainly need a great team for that - great AMs/FBs.

I'd be happy with 20 goals in all competitions. that sounds like something he can do.

Bah...Zigoni's better than him. If Pato doesn't hit 30, we should chop off a finger? Right Pana?!!

No.. we want to have different punishments for our players... in his case, the Duck's got the feathers so we add the tar!

I am tempted to dock zeddie a cookie for being a bad fanboy for not reporting this first.

Pato was named best young player in Serie A last season at the annual 'Oscar del Calcio' awards.

Pato's acceptance speech (for all those that understand italian):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSy34Rdt-NI

Shame on you Zeddie... You should come up with all things duck related...

Bah, of course he's the best youngster. we didn't need Calcio Oscar to tell us that, did we?

Pato is one of my favorite players, Pato, the duck
And is true we don't need a price to tell os that
But he won the best young player last year to and its sad that he's injury
he reminds me of Cristiano Ronaldo and he's good to, Pato got a brigth furture