Under no circumstances can we loose Pato to Inter, we must get him

Yes, that definitely is the vodka talking

Moratti can pull "a Suazo" or "a Chivu" paying 3 or 4M/euros NOT TO the player or the club BUT to his agent...

I won't be surprised.

*hic*

The merda and his men stole the Duck from his bed,
And bound him in his bones....

The game be ours and by the powers
Where we will we roam

Yo ho play together...hoist the colours high
Heave ho gods and devils.....never shall we die....



*passes out*



G'nite ladies...arrivederci

Moratti is as corrupt and shady as the next guy is, but he just hasnt been caught yet

Moggi was doing questionable things all the time but only recently got caught

What happened ? Milan give up on Pato ?

source : papers in italy

I wouldn't take the paper's a reliable source ... They might give u the BIG picture, but whether we sign him or not, or if we lost out on him or not, I would rather wait for a more detailed report .. Rather than go for a paper's headline, plus it's Corriere so ..

VERY VERY GOOD NEWS IT SEEMS! Galliani has said something about Pato:

"mentre Pato è un progetto di campione, ma per noi vale gli altri quattro"

And what does that mean?! I put it in the google translator and the result was this:

"While Pato is a champion plan, but for we he is worth the other four (Eto'o, R10, Sheva, Drogba)"

Baldy's changing his mind about Pato I guess...

This is what Galliani said in an interview with La Gazzetta dello Sport.

"one forward without EU passport will arrive, it is true that we are after a champion. One of these players may come (Drogba, Ronaldinho, Pato, Eto’o eller Shevchenko). But he also says that there is a sixth choice and he will not give away his name, even if he was under torture"

Thats what I understood.

Carlo Pellegatti, a well-known milanista who works for MediaSet (Berluconi coff coff) Studio Sport said today that Pato is a done deal.

I dunno if he's saying the true or not... or someone told him to say that words.

He works in MilanChannel too.

We'll see.

Let's see... I have faith in that kid!

do you have the link of it?

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God... I want Pato so bad, I don't know why but I prefer him to Sheva, Drogba and Eto'o. for me, only Ronaldinho have the edge over Pato!!

Eto'o is gut too.

But I'd take Pato over the 30's Drogba and Shevchenko.

for me pato has been my first choice for a llllllllonnnng time

Well, Pato is not my first choice but still one of the top:

1. Lonal-di-nio.
2. David Villa
3. Eto'o
4. Tévez
5. Pato

But as #2 and #4 seem to be out of question... Pato is the podium.











My top 5 is top... TOP, isn't it?

The only way I see Eto'o coming is maybe in January. In the next half season if there is some bust up with the Barcelona team and Henry and Messi as primary choices, he will leave. The question is will we put up the money for him. Chelsea and others want him as well.

Ronaldinho or Eto'o out of the list would be primary but Pato is more long term. I would buy both these players but tell this to cheap skate Milan.

LOL

Tevez looks crazy in that pic.

I would definately trust Pellagati, he also said this about R9 and Oddo during January.

And with the Leonardo connection I definately see Pato coming our way more then anyone else from that so called list

Interesting tidbit in the Italian press. I'd take it with a grain of salt. Not entirely sure how reliable this is.

[Berlusconi's entourage is sure that the competition for Pato can be considered won. As reported by 'TgSetteSport' (ie, Berlusconi media), the good offices of Leonardo have convinced the 17 year old striker to prefer Milan to Chelsea.]

L'entourage di Silvio Berlusconi è certo che la corsa al nuovo talento brasiliano Pato (18) sia da considerarsi vinta. Così come riporta "TgSetteSport", in onda su "SetteGold", i buoni uffici di Leonardo hanno convinto il diciassettenne attaccante a preferire il Milan al Chelsea. Pato potrà comunque arrivare a Milano non prima della riapertura delle liste a gennaio, visto che soltanto nel mese di settembre diverrà maggiorenne.

link

Congratulations guys. it seems we have won the race for Pato!

just go on and read Tassotti's words on acmilan.com and you'll know what I mean.



"On the transfer campaign and the eventual arrival, in January, of Pato: "From next season we will have Ronaldo available in full regime which is not to be underestimated. Ronaldo will play in the Champions League and for the first time in years he will do a full preparation. Ronaldo has had many days of rest, we have seen it, also on newspapers, that he is already at work. I think a new striker will come, and if it will be Pato and he comes in January, then I think we might do with the strikers we have now." To what point is Pato a promise and to what degree is it a risk considering his young age? "He's not a player who's done and ready, a player who we already know all about. Right now his evaluation is one thing, in a few years, when his level will be clearer, it could no longer be the right time to buy him: there is always some risk in buying a player who is still a minor. But it's a risk that may be worth taking as Pato is a quality player"



It's not 100% official, but I'm sure it's a done deal.
GOD! I feel like I'm in heaven.... it could be the best signing since Kaka.

So, if we get Pato we won't sign anybody else!??

That means... we won't make a single transfer for next season...

u guys im getting emotional i was the first one to even post something about pato .....and my dream comes true pato tieni il cuore rossonero ... YESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!! dream come true ....hes going to be a superstar. wait A MILAN SUPERSTAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i really want to hug leonardo right now

Exactly. I'm of course pro signing Pato, but we still need another forward.

He will come in January and need time to adapt to the tough league, to the requirement of a team like Milan and to compete with experienced players. He's not the player who will bring the immediate impact to the team. He's for the years to come.

It seems as though Leonardo has done more than assessing the player. He convinced the player to sign for Milan.

But Pato won't be an instant success .. Some ppl are of the opinion, that he would be a first team player .. I would think more of the lines of loaning him out Cuz, Kaka and Gourcuff couldn't handle the pressure of playing for Milan when they first got here. So ..

Well, it isn't for me to decide, but I am definitely happy for us to have the upper hand

Guys, let's calm down. It's not official yet.

Even Suazo was official and we all know how that turned out...

No. we'll probably buy another striker (though Tassotti said otherwise), Pato is in the future's plan, starting from second half of the season.

We could go after Milito... he's not that expensive, he's at the ideal age for joining Milan (28), he's had a very good season at Zaragoza.
we could release him once we had Pato ready to be a "regular starter", which I think may long at least till the start of the 2009/2010 season.
maybe we had some plans for Milito when we loaned Oliveira to Zaragoza? (couldn't he be that 6th option??)

Really, EVERYTHING could be...

Diego Milito has already the Italian passport and Galliani said:

"If someone comes, it will be a non-EU citizen. Or anyway someone who has this status at the moment and will perhaps be a EU citizen by 31 August."

That leaves for only 2: Ronaldinho and Eto'o that Barcelona is working on their EU passport. Laporta, Barcelona president confirmed that today.

So R10, doesn't have an EU passport ?

R10 is a spanish citizen, everybody knows that. does that differ from EU passport?

can someone get clip of pato playing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jvZXORUrwI

He'll be 18 years old next September. Amazing isn't it?

More coloured boots than jellybabies, needless flicks, skills all over the place and some of you guys complain about C.Ronaldo jeez

He could be good but this guy will get killed in the Serie A at the moment.

Check this out, it's cool. you can download it and watch it over and over again

C.Ronaldo is much more tricky-pony than Pato. You can't even compare ffs.

Ronaldo is an arrogant b_stard. A cnut. That's why he's a hero in ManUtd. Just look at their book: Cantona, Scholes, Keane... all soab's. Exactly why they love him... until he joins Madrid in some years. Then he'll be another "cheater/portuguese/diver/traitor".

And get killed in Serie A? For some reason we want him now/December. Milanello will give him everything he needs to learn in European soccer.

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Alexandre Pato is a pure talent and only 17, for god sake.

Have you guys noticed the tecnique this kid has? OK, he's brazillian... but compare him to the great majority of the big players out there [let alone Ronaldinho]. It's unbelievable.

BTW, in SKY Italia... they're saying Pato is a done deal. Talking like he's already a Milan player.

Oh he's 17 wow! footballers are getting younger and coming on the seen far more frequently nowadays at this age it's almost becoming the norm 17/18 you're in or at least challenging a first team if you're any good...

Yeah everything he needs to learn, meaning we will loan him out for a number of seasons and he will just be one of those players that fades away slowly. Sorry to be critical but this happens so much all these promising players turn slowly into nothing.

It's not really a gripe at this Pato kid more at these kind of transfers...

Please, do you think he'll do "a Grimi"? Pato is not a Braida-excuse for a bad Summer market.

Alexandre, if we buy him, must stay in Milanello and inside the club. No loans.
For some reason Barcelona didn't loan Messi, Bojan Krkic or Gio dos Santos...

Oh and Galliani said he considers Pato a champion just like Drogba, Shevchenko, Eto'o or Ronaldinho. Not "a Grimi" or anything. We're talking about the best young gun in South-America. Just that.

Leonardo has seen something in him so he must be good

I agree with your point though!

Exactly, I'm tired of all of these players going out on loan and never being given the chance we could have let the next Maldini or Kaka go I know not likely but you never know with the chance.

Well if he's anywhere near as good as Mr Lionel Messi I won't be complaining!


Haha, I guess.

Off-Topic: Bristol eh? I'm going to UWE Uni in September if you know it and living in the centre as of September, place any good?!

From 89 there are 3 young stars from South America:

1. Alexandre Pato (Brazil - Internacional BR)
2. Gio dos Santos (Mexico - Barcelona ES)
3. Carlos Vela (Mexico - Arsenal UK)

That said... how can Pato be a Grimi... a player that nobody knew about and that his ex-club fans and forums were laughing at the transfer.

For Pato it's just Chelsea, R.Madrid, Inter and Milan fighting for him. Just these 4.

You're completely wrong my friend!

First of all, he's not another Grimi, I can assure you. nobody in Europe even knew who the hell was Grimi! but Pato... just look at the long list of these heavy weight clubs that are fighting for his signature: Milan, Inter, Chelsea, Arsenal, Real, Juventus and on and on it goes... Grimi looked like a big joke from the very first day.

Secondly, I really doubt that he'll be loaned out. he MUST grow up in Milan. not even in Primavera. I know he won't get much playing time in his first season, but here with Kaka and especially Ronaldo, he'll learn and get matured faster than any other club in the world. the board surely knows this.

And thirdly, he's just 17 but he's as almost famous as Messi!! OK, I'm exaggerating a little bit, but believe me he's a big star right now! Nobody knew Messi this well when he was 17. I think he'll be Messi's greatest rival in the future.

Like Tassotti said, he doesn't lack anything. incredible technique, powerful shots, heads the ball very well and most of all, as a striker, he's always at the right place and the right time, just like Ronaldo!

Do you have any question?

He has yet to prove himself ont he big stage.

Sure, all those clips that u see on youtube (or downloaded..) are great and they show you his great tricks and what not ... But, can he handle the pressure of playing for AC Milan ?!

And on that note .. I have been watching football for sometime now, do u know how many players that where tauted to be the next Maradona, Pele, etc etc .. And they failed to meet that status.

Look at his body .. Compare it to Kaka' .. You clearly see a difference, Kaka's body can handle the pressure of Serie A calcio, but his thin physique wont stand a chance against even the mid table team's defenses ... He needs a lot of preparation to get ready for a team like Milan, let alone, how you are making him look like the new superstar of football.

I am not disagreeing with you that he has talent, but I am drawing a line as to don't expect too much from him in the next 2 years. He still has sometime to learn and get ready for the European competitions. Then, 2 years from now, then you could assess if he is the next superstar or an average over hyped player

Internacional de Porto Alegre is one of the biggest teams in Brazil.

At 17 he already won the FIFA Club World Club playing against likes of Puyol, Marquez, Zambrotta last December.
At 17 he's already a first 11 player in the Brazil NT. I don't think he'll have some kind of "pressure" problem.

Some of you guys... honestly, I do not understand. We're interested in the best young player in the world (1989) and some of you guys seems like "Eh... another Grimi".

Don't get me wrong !!

He has potential and is a very intelligent young player. But so was Kaka' and Gourcuff before they came to Milan. You will see what I mean when he comes ...

He still needs time and as I said before, if Leonardo aproves of him, then there is little for us to contradict a brilliant scout such as Leonardo !

But whether Pato would be effective for us, that is still a question. And I wouldn't want to answer that question till he breaks into the first team. Which IMO, he still needs 2 years to show if he is capable of handling the pressure.

Playing in South America, Porty, isn't exactly like Serie A and the CL ... Cuz for European competitions you need the physique and the right mental approach ..

You know what I am talking about ... I'm not saying he is no good, I am saying, you are giving him too much credit, when he is just 17 yrs old

I've never once said that.

I just think you can't put all your hopes on one kid, Arsenal bought Walcott who was meant to be an amazing talent, now look at him...

@R7... I know what you mean. I'm not expecting an immediate impact from him either. but a lot of football experts have followed him over past two years and I'm sure they know better than me and you when they say how good could he be. otherwise they wouldn't label him as Brazil's greatest talent of the future



It's not like that. Messi had a very weak body and yet he's at this level because he has incredible technique. I know he has improved a lot since two years ago, but he still doesn't have a spectacular physique.

The same goes for Pato. he has a far better condition right now than what Messi had in two years ago. Messi is 1.70 cm tall while Pato is 1.80 and could still grow tall since he's just 17. so I really doubt Pato could suffer from physical weakness.

Anyway, I agree he may struggle with mental problems, but that's completely normal for a 17, or 18 year old and nothing that couldn't be improved or fixed. I'm saying playing with Ronaldo and Kaka will give him the confidence he needs to fit into the team. and I'm sure he'll handle it very well, not from the very first game, but sooner than you think. like Tassotti said, it's a risk, but worth taking.

It's still not the same... the Brazilian league is full of youngsters! They get many chances... the only player I can recall that was given a chance in any of Europe's big teams in the past years is Messi...

And Serie A is not Joga Bonito; if you do the tricks he does they don't applause you, they kick you down!!

In my view it's not his physical strength that needs to be improved (I'm not saying he's ready but I don't think he's weak either...) but his game! He needs to mature... his play is tactically non-existent... Messi and Kaká were extremely tactically aware compared to most South Americans when they were introduced to European football... Gourcuff is a machine; he always run likes crazy to stand where he's told to, to overlap,...

But Alexander the Duck (... Earth met the Great, now it's time to meet a new one! ) is surely a great talent and there's not better place than Milanello for him to mature! I hope he comes (but not if he is going to be our only transfer)!