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post Jan 21 2012, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Jan 21 2012, 06:31 PM) *
its a fact? Okay, that's getting simply too pathetic for me. Enjoy yourself.

listen just cuz you can't counter my comment don't call my opinion pathetic, okay? i gave you a nice statistic comment on that if u want but don't u dare call my opinion pathetic again (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jan 21 2012, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jan 21 2012, 12:54 PM) *
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) OK fair enough, Trini. this is too hilarious for me to ruin it by continuing to argue (no offense at all intended).

(I tell you, the backspace key is so underrated! I typed a lot in response to the whole Pato argument but I thought what's the point? we've been repeating ourselves too much over this issue)

Haha (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Fair enough, but just to be clear, I'm not against Pato; I was just voicing that there are exceptions in which two players from different positions can be compared.
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post Jan 21 2012, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE (milanbuf88 @ Jan 21 2012, 02:35 AM) *
While I don't wish Pato any ill will and I love his potential but there is most definitely a good argument for at least discussing his potential sale. Seriously, how many injuries does he have to get and how much time does he have to miss before people admit this? Blindly deeming him untouchable is plain fanboyism.

+1. At this rate of injuries, and unless there will be a drastic change soon, all his potential will be worth nothing in a few years.

BTW, didn't we sent him to be tested by US specialists not long ago? His problems might be more than just milan lab messing up...
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post Jan 21 2012, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE (nuh @ Jan 21 2012, 01:04 PM) *
what do you mean biased? its a fact! pato is much better than him...balotelli has never managed to score more than 8 or 9 goals in a season...all this talk of him being better is nonsense!
I mean seriously, fine pato hasn't been in good form this season but give the kid a break! i remember sheva once had a bad season with injuries and finished the season with only 5 league goals i wonder what this forum would of said if it was open then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) , just give the kid a break!

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif) EXCAAATLYYYYYY +∞

But then $heva went on that season to score the winning CL goal and the very next year he had an awesome goalscoring haul (used to be my favourite player (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) )

It saddens me how quickly fans in general turn on a player when he's in difficulty....There was a point last season when despite his obvious talent nobody would have dared said that Balo>Pato. We need to remember that ALL strikers go through rough patches the MAIN problem with Pato is that this is exacerbated by the fact that his good streaks have all been rather short and too sporadic since they have always been pnctuated by injury and the bad form that follows subsequently.
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post Jan 22 2012, 12:57 AM
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QUOTE (nuh @ Jan 21 2012, 09:26 PM) *
listen just cuz you can't counter my comment don't call my opinion pathetic, okay? i gave you a nice statistic comment on that if u want but don't u dare call my opinion pathetic again (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I didn't call your opinion pathetic, but you stating yours as a fact. And now you just assume I can't counter yours - which makes you act even more pathetic - but I simply was not bothered to do so.

Oh, and, one thing, if stats is all you look at, you never make right judgements when it comes to players. Not only is Balotelli scoring a lot this season, but also does a lot more than just scoring, all what Pato doesn't do.

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post Jan 22 2012, 12:58 AM
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QUOTE (nuh @ Jan 21 2012, 05:04 PM) *
what do you mean biased? its a fact! pato is much better than him...balotelli has never managed to score more than 8 or 9 goals in a season...all this talk of him being better is nonsense!
I mean seriously, fine pato hasn't been in good form this season but give the kid a break! i remember sheva once had a bad season with injuries and finished the season with only 5 league goals i wonder what this forum would of said if it was open then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) , just give the kid a break!

You do realise Balo's never started more than 13 league games a season yeah?

As for Sheva, I think you'll find he contributed a lot more that season than Pato is now.
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post Jan 22 2012, 12:59 AM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jan 22 2012, 01:58 AM) *
You do realise Balo's never started more than 13 league games a season yeah?

As for Sheva, I think you'll find he contributed a lot more that season than Pato is now.

He thinks forwards are there only to score goals...
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post Jan 22 2012, 01:46 AM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Jan 21 2012, 11:59 PM) *
He thinks forwards are there only to score goals...

Whilst that is the most important thing (and I'd take a guess that Balo's minutes played: goals ratio is probably better, if not very close), Balo hasn't played as a central forward a lot. For Inter under Jose he played wide sometimes as Milito with the central guy, same goes for last season at City when Dzeko was the central man in a front 3.
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post Jan 22 2012, 02:26 AM
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QUOTE (nuh @ Jan 21 2012, 09:04 PM) *
I mean seriously, fine pato hasn't been in good form this season but give the kid a break! i remember sheva once had a bad season with injuries and finished the season with only 5 league goals i wonder what this forum would of said if it was open then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) , just give the kid a break!

Not a good comparison. No one would said something bad because Sheva (BTW, Sheva at Pato's age was CL top scorer (98) and led a team like Dynamo Kiev to a CL semis) was scoring a lot before and after that season and had no chronic injury problems like Pato does.

You are presenting it like Pato had few injuries and people just given up... It's 12 injuries in two years, he's barely getting into good shape and hurt again. It's only natural that people would be frustrated.

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post Jan 22 2012, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Jan 22 2012, 12:05 AM) *
Haha (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Fair enough, but just to be clear, I'm not against Pato; I was just voicing that there are exceptions in which two players from different positions can be compared.


+1. that's why I said fair enough. they can be compared to an extent, but it's obvious enough that it's not right in general to compare two different players playing in different positions at different stages of their career. normally players from the same position are compared with each other (for example, Messi vs Ronaldo not Messi vs Ramos!)

As for the Balotelli comparisons, both him and Pato are talented IMO though I rate Pato more highly because when I compare their performances in their best seasons, I find Pato's to be better. Balo is yet to strike me as the kind of a player than can carry his team on his back with his goals while that's what Pato did in 2008-09.

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post Feb 6 2012, 10:34 AM
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Christian Ruiu on twitter: Pato will 100% be back against Cesena. He might be on the bench for the game against Arsenal. And more important, he will start against Juventus.
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post Feb 6 2012, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Feb 6 2012, 10:34 AM) *
Christian Ruiu on twitter: Pato will 100% be back against Cesena. He might be on the bench for the game against Arsenal. And more important, he will start against Juventus.

Shouldn't he have been out for a month? Thus he'd come in later than Aqui and Boateng...

I hope they're not rushing him back because of the injury/suspensions
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post Feb 6 2012, 05:35 PM
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Who's Christian Ruiu?
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post Feb 6 2012, 07:04 PM
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Journalist.
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post Feb 6 2012, 10:46 PM
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Tassotti: "Out of all our injured players, Pato is the one who is closest to returning. The only players still need a bit of time."
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