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post Jun 13 2010, 09:14 PM
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It's not true either. Messi bearly played in his first season seeing as he was new to the first team. He played quite a bit in his 2nd season, though he was more of a sub. Since then he's played almost every game.
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post Jun 13 2010, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 13 2010, 08:14 PM) *
It's not true either. Messi bearly played in his first season seeing as he was new to the first team. He played quite a bit in his 2nd season, though he was more of a sub. Since then he's played almost every game.

In his first few seasons he did get injured a lot, I think he had a gowth problem, that's why he always says he'll always be thankful to Barca for sticking with him.

The day Pato is sold will only be for money just like Kaka was sold. And really we shouldn't be wishing for it as I can't see us spending money to get someone that can come close to him. He had an injury plagued season, every player goes through that at one point or another, at one point Ambro was compared to glass as he used to spend entire months out with injuries. I'm sure you wouldn't have wanted to see him being sold just because he's injury prone (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jun 13 2010, 09:26 PM
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But no one was willing to spend 50m on Ambro han. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Jun 13 2010, 09:32 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 14 2010, 12:52 AM) *
Ambro was compared to glass as he used to spend entire months out with injuries. I'm sure you wouldn't have wanted to see him being sold just because he's injury prone wink.gif


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post Jun 13 2010, 09:36 PM
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Oh, I thought it was more of a rhetorical question. Anyway, I never said we should sell him this season. Or the season after. But if he doesn't evolve into a world class striker when he's reached 22, start getting worried.

Don't get me wrong peeps, Pato is my favorite Milan player, I would never want him sold. But it's all this ambition I have on the guy, I expect him to wonders and not just play "good" and score a "few goals". Get it?
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post Jun 14 2010, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 13 2010, 08:26 PM) *
But no one was willing to spend 50m on Ambro han. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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And at the time we weren't digging in the dumpsters for old freebies. We didn't really need the money. Ambro was just the guy we kept because he had been with us for a while, since Rino was the main DM in the team
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post Jun 15 2010, 12:49 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 14 2010, 05:44 PM) *
Technicality (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

And at the time we weren't digging in the dumpsters for old freebies. We didn't really need the money. Ambro was just the guy we kept because he had been with us for a while, since Rino was the main DM in the team


Yeah, I remember Ancelotti bringing Ambro in only when were were leading 2-1 or 3-1 just to tighten the midfield. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jun 15 2010, 03:11 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 13 2010, 09:22 PM) *
In his first few seasons he did get injured a lot, I think he had a gowth problem, that's why he always says he'll always be thankful to Barca for sticking with him.

The day Pato is sold will only be for money just like Kaka was sold. And really we shouldn't be wishing for it as I can't see us spending money to get someone that can come close to him. He had an injury plagued season, every player goes through that at one point or another, at one point Ambro was compared to glass as he used to spend entire months out with injuries. I'm sure you wouldn't have wanted to see him being sold just because he's injury prone (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Basically what X said. If someone was willing to pay big money I'd sell him and re-invest throughout the team.

But it's not like that. Ambro was our best player last season, yet wouldn't demand a big fee because of his age. Pato hasn't performed all that amazingly since joining, but his reputation alone would get us big money.
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post Jun 16 2010, 07:46 AM
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Hasn't performed all that amazing compared to who, exactly??
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If it's kurt I expect him to say Adam Johnson.
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post Jun 16 2010, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jun 16 2010, 08:46 AM) *
Hasn't performed all that amazing compared to who, exactly??


Compared to his potential.
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post Jun 16 2010, 02:21 PM
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Messi stayed in Barcelona and I think selling Pato would be a stupied idea

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post Jun 17 2010, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 16 2010, 04:01 PM) *
Compared to his potential.

Please enlighten me, how is that even a yardstick for what he does?! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I think Pato did live up to his potential (whatever it is) in his first 2 seasons. statistically speaking, he did even better than Messis or Hiuguains of world football (only mentioning this since people like to masturbate over the prospect of comparing Pato to them so much). no other teenage footballer in recent years, as far as I know, managed to score as many goals as Pato did when they were the same age.

This last season was a different story, as he spent about one/third of the season on the sidelines. still 14 goals in 25 games is not bad at all.

Statistics aside, he has scored many vital and/or brilliant goals since joining us, do I need to remind people of them?


Another interesting fact: no Milan striker in the past 3 seasons managed to score goals against as many diverse/different teams as Pato did - from the biggest teams out there (Inter, Juve, Real, Roma, Fiorentina, etc.) to the bottom-table ones (Siena, Reggina, Lazio, etc.). Pippo comes close but still doesn't match.

And the thing is, Milan has been nothing short of an inconsistent, sometimes even pathetic, team in these past seasons but Pato has showed he can perform nonetheless. I still remember comments like "Pato doesn't deserve the teammates around him" when he was about the only one trying and doing something positive.

If all of these are not good enough reasons to silence those who insist that he should be sold, I don't know what is. if people don't like Pato, they should just admit that and that stop bringing arguments that don't hold water.

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His haircut is not Milan quality. Sell Pato buy Wilhelmssonn.

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post Jun 17 2010, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jun 17 2010, 12:47 PM) *
Please enlighten me, how is that even a yardstick for what he does?! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I think Pato did live up to his potential (whatever it is) in his first 2 seasons. statistically speaking, he did even better than Messis or Hiuguains of world football (only mentioning this since people like to masturbate over the prospect of comparing Pato to them so much). no other teenage footballer in recent years, as far as I know, managed to score as many goals as Pato did when they were the same age.

This last season was a different story, as he spent about one/third of the season on the sidelines. still 14 goals in 25 games is not bad at all.

Statistics aside, he has scored many vital and/or brilliant goals since joining us, do I need to remind people of them?


Another interesting fact: no Milan striker in the past 3 seasons managed to score goals against as many diverse/different teams as Pato did - from the biggest teams out there (Inter, Juve, Real, Roma, Fiorentina, etc.) to the bottom-table ones (Siena, Reggina, Lazio, etc.). Pippo comes close but still doesn't match.

And the thing is, Milan has been nothing short of an inconsistent, sometimes even pathetic, team in these past seasons but Pato has showed he can perform nonetheless. I still remember comments like "Pato doesn't deserve the teammates around him" when he was about the only one trying and doing something positive.

If all of these are not good enough reasons to silence those who insist that he should be sold, I don't know what is. if people don't like Pato, they should just admit that and that stop bringing arguments that don't hold water.


Dude, no one wants Pato to be sold, at least not for now. And it's not about numbers we're complaining about, rather the fact he should be more involved in every match and be the star of this team.
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