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post Jul 17 2007, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 17 2007, 06:43 PM)
Diego Milito has already the Italian passport and Galliani said:

"If someone comes, it will be a non-EU citizen. Or anyway someone who has this status at the moment and will perhaps be a EU citizen by 31 August."


That leaves for only 2: Ronaldinho and Eto'o that Barcelona is working on their EU passport. Laporta, Barcelona president confirmed that today.
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So R10, doesn't have an EU passport ?
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post Jul 17 2007, 05:03 PM
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R10 is a spanish citizen, everybody knows that. does that differ from EU passport?
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post Jul 17 2007, 09:02 PM
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can someone get clip of pato playing
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post Jul 17 2007, 09:47 PM
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QUOTE (nmcg @ Jul 17 2007, 09:02 PM)
can someone get clip of pato playing
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jvZXORUrwI

He'll be 18 years old next September. Amazing isn't it? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Jul 17 2007, 10:50 PM
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More coloured boots than jellybabies, needless flicks, skills all over the place and some of you guys complain about C.Ronaldo jeez (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

He could be good but this guy will get killed in the Serie A at the moment.
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post Jul 17 2007, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE (nmcg @ Jul 17 2007, 11:32 PM)
can someone get clip of pato playing
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Check this out, it's cool. you can download it and watch it over and over again (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Jul 17 2007, 11:43 PM
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QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Jul 17 2007, 10:50 PM)
More coloured boots than jellybabies, needless flicks, skills all over the place and some of you guys complain about C.Ronaldo jeez  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

He could be good but this guy will get killed in the Serie A at the moment.
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C.Ronaldo is much more tricky-pony than Pato. You can't even compare ffs.

Ronaldo is an arrogant b_stard. A cnut. That's why he's a hero in ManUtd. Just look at their book: Cantona, Scholes, Keane... all soab's. Exactly why they love him... until he joins Madrid in some years. Then he'll be another "cheater/portuguese/diver/traitor". (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

And get killed in Serie A? For some reason we want him now/December. Milanello will give him everything he needs to learn in European soccer. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

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Alexandre Pato is a pure talent and only 17, for god sake.

Have you guys noticed the tecnique this kid has? OK, he's brazillian... but compare him to the great majority of the big players out there [let alone Ronaldinho]. It's unbelievable.
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post Jul 17 2007, 11:57 PM
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BTW, in SKY Italia... they're saying Pato is a done deal. Talking like he's already a Milan player.
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post Jul 17 2007, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 17 2007, 10:43 PM)
And get killed in Serie A? For some reason we want him now/December. Milanello will give him everything he needs to learn in European soccer.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

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Alexandre Pato is a pure talent and only 17, for god sake.
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Oh he's 17 wow! footballers are getting younger and coming on the seen far more frequently nowadays at this age it's almost becoming the norm 17/18 you're in or at least challenging a first team if you're any good...

Yeah everything he needs to learn, meaning we will loan him out for a number of seasons and he will just be one of those players that fades away slowly. Sorry to be critical but this happens so much all these promising players turn slowly into nothing.

It's not really a gripe at this Pato kid more at these kind of transfers...
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post Jul 18 2007, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Jul 17 2007, 11:58 PM)
Oh he's 17 wow! footballers are getting younger and coming on the seen far more frequently nowadays at this age it's almost becoming the norm 17/18 you're in or at least challenging a first team if you're any good...

Yeah everything he needs to learn, meaning we will loan him out for a number of seasons and he will just be one of those players that fades away slowly. Sorry to be critical but this happens so much all these promising players turn slowly into nothing.

It's not really a gripe at this Pato kid more at these kind of transfers...
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Please, do you think he'll do "a Grimi"? Pato is not a Braida-excuse for a bad Summer market.

Alexandre, if we buy him, must stay in Milanello and inside the club. No loans.
For some reason Barcelona didn't loan Messi, Bojan Krkic or Gio dos Santos... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Oh and Galliani said he considers Pato a champion just like Drogba, Shevchenko, Eto'o or Ronaldinho. Not "a Grimi" or anything. We're talking about the best young gun in South-America. Just that.
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post Jul 18 2007, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Jul 17 2007, 10:58 PM)
Oh he's 17 wow! footballers are getting younger and coming on the seen far more frequently nowadays at this age it's almost becoming the norm 17/18 you're in or at least challenging a first team if you're any good...

Yeah everything he needs to learn, meaning we will loan him out for a number of seasons and he will just be one of those players that fades away slowly. Sorry to be critical but this happens so much all these promising players turn slowly into nothing.

It's not really a gripe at this Pato kid more at these kind of transfers...
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Leonardo has seen something in him so he must be good (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I agree with your point though!
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post Jul 18 2007, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 17 2007, 11:04 PM)
Alexandre, if we buy him, must stay in Milanello and inside the club. No loans.
For some reason Barcelona didn't loan Messi, Bojan Krkic or Gio dos Santos...  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Oh and Galliani said he considers Pato a champion just like Drogba, Shevchenko, Eto'o or Ronaldinho. Not "a Grimi" or anything. We're talking about the best young gun in South-America. Just that.
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Exactly, I'm tired of all of these players going out on loan and never being given the chance we could have let the next Maldini or Kaka go I know not likely but you never know with the chance.

Well if he's anywhere near as good as Mr Lionel Messi I won't be complaining!

QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Jul 17 2007, 11:04 PM)
Leonardo has seen something in him so he must be good (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I agree with your point though!
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Haha, I guess.

Off-Topic: Bristol eh? I'm going to UWE Uni in September if you know it and living in the centre as of September, place any good?!
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post Jul 18 2007, 12:21 AM
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QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Jul 18 2007, 12:16 AM)
Exactly, I'm tired of all of these players going out on loan and never being given the chance we could have let the next Maldini or Kaka go I know not likely but you never know with the chance.

Well if he's anywhere near as good as Mr Lionel Messi I won't be complaining!
Haha, I guess.
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From 89 there are 3 young stars from South America:

1. Alexandre Pato (Brazil - Internacional BR)
2. Gio dos Santos (Mexico - Barcelona ES)
3. Carlos Vela (Mexico - Arsenal UK)

That said... how can Pato be a Grimi... a player that nobody knew about and that his ex-club fans and forums were laughing at the transfer. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

For Pato it's just Chelsea, R.Madrid, Inter and Milan fighting for him. Just these 4.
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post Jul 18 2007, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Jul 18 2007, 02:28 AM)
Oh he's 17 wow! footballers are getting younger and coming on the seen far more frequently nowadays at this age it's almost becoming the norm 17/18 you're in or at least challenging a first team if you're any good...

Yeah everything he needs to learn, meaning we will loan him out for a number of seasons and he will just be one of those players that fades away slowly. Sorry to be critical but this happens so much all these promising players turn slowly into nothing.

It's not really a gripe at this Pato kid more at these kind of transfers...
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QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Jul 18 2007, 02:46 AM)
Exactly, I'm tired of all of these players going out on loan and never being given the chance we could have let the next Maldini or Kaka go I know not likely but you never know with the chance.

Well if he's anywhere near as good as Mr Lionel Messi I won't be complaining!
Haha, I guess.

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You're completely wrong my friend! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

First of all, he's not another Grimi, I can assure you. nobody in Europe even knew who the hell was Grimi! but Pato... just look at the long list of these heavy weight clubs that are fighting for his signature: Milan, Inter, Chelsea, Arsenal, Real, Juventus and on and on it goes... Grimi looked like a big joke from the very first day.

Secondly, I really doubt that he'll be loaned out. he MUST grow up in Milan. not even in Primavera. I know he won't get much playing time in his first season, but here with Kaka and especially Ronaldo, he'll learn and get matured faster than any other club in the world. the board surely knows this.

And thirdly, he's just 17 but he's as almost famous as Messi!! OK, I'm exaggerating a little bit, but believe me he's a big star right now! Nobody knew Messi this well when he was 17. I think he'll be Messi's greatest rival in the future.

Like Tassotti said, he doesn't lack anything. incredible technique, powerful shots, heads the ball very well and most of all, as a striker, he's always at the right place and the right time, just like Ronaldo!

Do you have any question? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Jul 18 2007, 12:24 PM
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QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jul 18 2007, 01:10 PM)
You're completely wrong my friend!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

First of all, he's not another Grimi, I can assure you. nobody in Europe even knew who the hell was Grimi! but Pato... just look at the long list of these heavy weight clubs that are fighting for his signature: Milan, Inter, Chelsea, Arsenal, Real, Juventus and on and on it goes... Grimi looked like a big joke from the very first day.

Secondly, I really doubt that he'll be loaned out. he MUST grow up in Milan. not even in Primavera. I know he won't get much playing time in his first season, but here with Kaka and especially Ronaldo, he'll learn and get matured faster than any other club in the world. the board surely knows this.

And thirdly, he's just 17 but he's as almost famous as Messi!! OK, I'm exaggerating a little bit, but believe me he's a big star right now! Nobody knew Messi this well when he was 17. I think he'll be Messi's greatest rival in the future.

Like Tassotti said, he doesn't lack anything. incredible technique, powerful shots, heads the ball very well and most of all, as a striker, he's always at the right place and the right time, just like Ronaldo!

Do you have any question?  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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He has yet to prove himself ont he big stage.

Sure, all those clips that u see on youtube (or downloaded..) are great and they show you his great tricks and what not ... But, can he handle the pressure of playing for AC Milan ?!

And on that note .. I have been watching football for sometime now, do u know how many players that where tauted to be the next Maradona, Pele, etc etc .. And they failed to meet that status.

Look at his body .. Compare it to Kaka' .. You clearly see a difference, Kaka's body can handle the pressure of Serie A calcio, but his thin physique wont stand a chance against even the mid table team's defenses ... He needs a lot of preparation to get ready for a team like Milan, let alone, how you are making him look like the new superstar of football.

I am not disagreeing with you that he has talent, but I am drawing a line as to don't expect too much from him in the next 2 years. He still has sometime to learn and get ready for the European competitions. Then, 2 years from now, then you could assess if he is the next superstar or an average over hyped player (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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