Hmm. Possibly. Verdi looked hungry in the last match I saw. Much better than Di Gennaro, who seems to have fizzled out.
But I was specifically referring to cover for Abate at RB for which I think Mancini is half-decent.
I read on tribal (again quoting Corriere) that it's an 'auction' for Pato with the base price at 55. Real might try to include Benzema in the deal. I call BS on that one.
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Mancini does not have the hunger or the ability to play a part in the team. Worst case scenario is that we move Antonini to RB in an emergency
I would like a closer look at De Vito, maybe he can fill in for the LB position in the future
I would like a closer look at De Vito, maybe he can fill in for the LB position in the future
Mancini was not even fit this season. He's alright. Not spectacular. But at least we know what he's capable of.
De Vito is cute.
Antonini at RB is a no-go. Seen him play there too many times now, and I don't think he's attuned to that position.
De Vito...
De Vito is cute.
Antonini at RB is a no-go. Seen him play there too many times now, and I don't think he's attuned to that position.De Vito...
Something wrong with your keyboard, Jack? Evertime you put an apostrophe, there's '///' before it.
Funny. I see a '\\\'
I can't remember, you edited your post so I can't check. 
I´M SO HAPPY BECAUSE WE´RE ALREADY COOKING TWO SUMMER MOVES:
1. PERMANENT TRANSFER NEGOTIATIONS FOR MANCINI;
2. NEGOTIATIONS TO KEEP LEONARDO.
BOY WE´RE HAVING A BUSY PRE SUMMER TRANSER CAMPAIGN ... 2 MOVES ALREADY ... I CANNOT EVEN WAIT TO SEE WHAT MOVE WE WILL DO NEXT ... MAYBE A 3RD TRANSFER FOR NESTA TO BRING HIM TO THE FIRST TEAM DIRECTLY FROM THE DOCTOR.
BOY I´M SO EXCITED!!!
1. PERMANENT TRANSFER NEGOTIATIONS FOR MANCINI;
2. NEGOTIATIONS TO KEEP LEONARDO.
BOY WE´RE HAVING A BUSY PRE SUMMER TRANSER CAMPAIGN ... 2 MOVES ALREADY ... I CANNOT EVEN WAIT TO SEE WHAT MOVE WE WILL DO NEXT ... MAYBE A 3RD TRANSFER FOR NESTA TO BRING HIM TO THE FIRST TEAM DIRECTLY FROM THE DOCTOR.
BOY I´M SO EXCITED!!!
2 moves that take us nowhere further forward than we are now though!
About how much in debt actually are we? or is berlusconi just super cheap and unwilling to fork over the cash to bring in some younger talent?
We probably won't exist next season, it's got that bad.
Nah, I don't believe we actually have any debt, we just don't spend. I think Silvio wants the club to be able to run itself AND bring in the money to buy players, which is impossible.
Nah, I don't believe we actually have any debt, we just don't spend. I think Silvio wants the club to be able to run itself AND bring in the money to buy players, which is impossible.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Apr 15 2010, 09:13 PM) 
2 moves that take us nowhere further forward than we are now though!
I do hope you understand IRONY...
I think you mean sarcasm?
Yeah, it's sarcasm. I'm not an idiot, the 'boy I'm excited' is a bit of a giveaway.
I just don't need much to complain, is all.
I just don't need much to complain, is all.
QUOTE (Panama Devil @ Apr 15 2010, 10:04 PM)
MAYBE A 3RD TRANSFER FOR NESTA TO BRING HIM TO THE FIRST TEAM DIRECTLY FROM THE DOCTOR.
QUOTE (tomahawk @ Apr 16 2010, 09:51 AM)
About how much in debt actually are we? or is berlusconi just super cheap and unwilling to fork over the cash to bring in some younger talent?
Zero debt. It's the only achievement we can claim to have. Our current income means we can keep the club running as it is. Anything more than that, in terms of transfers etc. will have to be financed by player sales/co-ownerships.
Silvio occasionally gives us a 'gift'.
seems like that we ll have another get-by/trophyless season again and that behind the scenes there working on youth i suppose. If we sell pato though for 55 million then they should seriously consider buying 4-5 good players with that money
Mediaset's running an article saying that Leonardo rescinded his contract on Tuesday and that he'll be returning to Brazil to work on the organization of the world cup there (not as NT coach).
The supposed replacements are Tassotti-Galli with Marcello Lippi as a technical director and Maldini in Leonardo's old director/scout role. Also, there'll be a big shakeup in the medical department, according to the article.
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The supposed replacements are Tassotti-Galli with Marcello Lippi as a technical director and Maldini in Leonardo's old director/scout role. Also, there'll be a big shakeup in the medical department, according to the article.
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Oh cr@p!! 
It's mediaset!! They can't lie!!
Fan fury against the management is gonna go up 10-fold now. We lost our biggest trump card when it came to S.American scouting...and we have no coach.
Good luck holding onto third!!
But seriously though..why not just last out the season here? Things can't be that bad!
It's mediaset!! They can't lie!! Fan fury against the management is gonna go up 10-fold now. We lost our biggest trump card when it came to S.American scouting...and we have no coach.
Good luck holding onto third!!
But seriously though..why not just last out the season here? Things can't be that bad!
Oh, the article says he'll stay through the end of the season and will coach the 3 friendlies in north america. But there's another article from another mediaset guy that confirms he'll leave. This one adds that Maldini won't play any real part in things at Milan until after Galliani is gone (there's a lot of bad feelings - understandably - about how poorly Milan handled Maldini's farewell).
QUOTE (Suhail 3 @ Apr 16 2010, 11:31 AM)
seems like that we ll have another get-by/trophyless season again
Which is a good thing. If we don't win anything for a while, Silvio will see that we desperately need investment. While Athens was great, it's hurt the club far, far more than helped it. It just gave the management an excuse not to spend for a few more years, which is why I really didn't mind how we did in the competition this year.
Here's the official denial:
(from acmilan.com's italian page)
[In reference to stories today regarding a presumed contract recission, the coach of Milan, Leonado states that these stories are completely without basis in fact.]
(from acmilan.com's italian page)
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A.C. MILAN COMUNICATO UFFICIALE
16/04/2010
MILANO - In riferimento alle notizie divulgate oggi relative a una sua presunta rescissione di contratto, l'allenatore del Milan Leonardo precisa che queste sono da intendersi totalmente prive di fondamento.
16/04/2010
MILANO - In riferimento alle notizie divulgate oggi relative a una sua presunta rescissione di contratto, l'allenatore del Milan Leonardo precisa che queste sono da intendersi totalmente prive di fondamento.
[In reference to stories today regarding a presumed contract recission, the coach of Milan, Leonado states that these stories are completely without basis in fact.]
QUOTE (Suhail 3 @ Apr 16 2010, 05:31 AM)
seems like that we ll have another get-by/trophyless season again and that behind the scenes there working on youth i suppose. If we sell pato though for 55 million then they should seriously consider buying 4-5 good players with that money
If someone offers 55 million for Pato that seems like a snap-sell decision to me. He's a good player, but no way he's worth anywhere close to that much at the moment.
QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Apr 16 2010, 12:46 PM)
Oh, the article says he'll stay through the end of the season and will coach the 3 friendlies in north america. But there's another article from another mediaset guy that confirms he'll leave. This one adds that Maldini won't play any real part in things at Milan until after Galliani is gone (there's a lot of bad feelings - understandably - about how poorly Milan handled Maldini's farewell).
Rightly so. Not keen one bit about the rumour bringing Lippi here one bit
QUOTE (servbot @ Apr 16 2010, 01:04 PM)
If someone offers 55 million for Pato that seems like a snap-sell decision to me. He's a good player, but no way he's worth anywhere close to that much at the moment.
Its not so much a question of money rather than talent, he is the only real star we have at the moment, if we sell him, then we have nothing to build around in the future.
QUOTE (servbot @ Apr 16 2010, 03:34 PM)
If someone offers 55 million for Pato that seems like a snap-sell decision to me. He's a good player, but no way he's worth anywhere close to that much at the moment.
Seriously?
Cause it's pretty much a matter of having Pato, and not having Pato. if you think the money would be spent on a world class player, you shoudl think again. his sale money won't make any difference to this circus of a club except that we won't have him to rely on anymore. just like we sold Kaka for 70 million euro and didn't do **** with it.
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 16 2010, 08:42 AM)
Seriously?
Cause it's pretty much a matter of having Pato, and not having Pato. if you think the money would be spent on a world class player, you shoudl think again. his sale money won't make any difference to this circus of a club except that we won't have him to rely on anymore. just like we sold Kaka for 70 million euro and didn't do **** with it.
Cause it's pretty much a matter of having Pato, and not having Pato. if you think the money would be spent on a world class player, you shoudl think again. his sale money won't make any difference to this circus of a club except that we won't have him to rely on anymore. just like we sold Kaka for 70 million euro and didn't do **** with it.
Of course they would need to reinvest that money in multiple good players to make it worth it! When we sit here and argue that the team has so many holes to fill on the pitch, it'd be better to have several solid players instead of one star, imo. But I really don't think anyone will offer that much, so it's all hypothetically speaking.
That's what I'm saying! we won't reinvest the sale money so we're better off not selling one of our very few young, key players.
And that's why whenever someone says they'd happily sell Pato if a good offer was made, I react!
And that's why whenever someone says they'd happily sell Pato if a good offer was made, I react!
Some might say Pato is Milans only star but they are 11 players on the field, not only him, and Pato is very young and has great talent, so It's hard to find a good offer for him.
I think Pato is probably the only player who would have a huge sell on value, but it's knowing when the right time to cash in on him is. I think the management have made it pretty clear that we're happy to sell anyone for a decent offer.
I agree and not to make a misstake, Pato is worth Ramos and Higuain and I belive even if Messi is 23 and this great and Pato is 3 or 4 yrs old younger, he can become great even greater then Messi it depends on how he will make it, and everybode sees the talent that he has.
I'm not getting into this Pato/Higuain/Ramos thing again. 
Oh you don't have to, we already know your stance
It makes me wonder with all these changes coming in that how long does Galliani have with Milan? I honestly think that 2010/2011 might be his last year.
The direction things seem to be moving in is that Silvio wants milan to be able to run by itself and then he will cut his ties from the club. I doubt he will sell the club, he will probably hand it over to piersilvio but it will be interesting to see what direction this club takes in the next 5 years. Will we sell to arabs or will it turn into another Napoli? Who knows...we'll have to wait and see.
But for now the next 2 years won't be pretty people, buckle up and prepare for the worst.
The direction things seem to be moving in is that Silvio wants milan to be able to run by itself and then he will cut his ties from the club. I doubt he will sell the club, he will probably hand it over to piersilvio but it will be interesting to see what direction this club takes in the next 5 years. Will we sell to arabs or will it turn into another Napoli? Who knows...we'll have to wait and see.
But for now the next 2 years won't be pretty people, buckle up and prepare for the worst.
What do you mean, like Napoli?
QUOTE
Milan Won't Spend Big In The Summer - Report
The club's transfer budget will be approved next week, but fans have been told not to hold their breath, according to reports...
Milan will not be entering any grandiose spending schemes during the summer transfer market because president Silvio Berlusconi will not allocate extravagant funds for new players, claims La Gazzetta dello Sport.
The club's transfer budget for 2010 will be approved next Friday when Berlusconi's holding company Fininvest, who control Milan, gathers for their annual general meeting.
Milan's economic deficit has been curbed after the sale of Kaka to Real Madrid last year which saw their debt slashed from €70 million to €10m.
However, despite the upturn in finances, Gazzetta forecasts there will be no major spending. Gone are the days when Berlusconi injected cash into the club.
And fans will have a clearer picture of what Leonardo will be doing in relation to transfers by the end of term.
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The club's transfer budget will be approved next week, but fans have been told not to hold their breath, according to reports...
Milan will not be entering any grandiose spending schemes during the summer transfer market because president Silvio Berlusconi will not allocate extravagant funds for new players, claims La Gazzetta dello Sport.
The club's transfer budget for 2010 will be approved next Friday when Berlusconi's holding company Fininvest, who control Milan, gathers for their annual general meeting.
Milan's economic deficit has been curbed after the sale of Kaka to Real Madrid last year which saw their debt slashed from €70 million to €10m.
However, despite the upturn in finances, Gazzetta forecasts there will be no major spending. Gone are the days when Berlusconi injected cash into the club.
And fans will have a clearer picture of what Leonardo will be doing in relation to transfers by the end of term.
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He needs to spend at some point or we just won't compete often enough.
We could still do with a #1 GK, an extra full back, a 3rd CB capable of standing in for Nesta/Silva, someone to cover for Pirlo, another wide man would do nicely as well.
We could still do with a #1 GK, an extra full back, a 3rd CB capable of standing in for Nesta/Silva, someone to cover for Pirlo, another wide man would do nicely as well.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Apr 17 2010, 11:11 AM)
He needs to spend at some point or we just won't compete often enough.
We could still do with a #1 GK, an extra full back, a 3rd CB capable of standing in for Nesta/Silva, someone to cover for Pirlo, another wide man would do nicely as well.
We could still do with a #1 GK, an extra full back, a 3rd CB capable of standing in for Nesta/Silva, someone to cover for Pirlo, another wide man would do nicely as well.
silvio's anser to all of these
Storari, Abate/antonini are fine, astori, Flamini and finally Addiyiah.
god i love our frugal management
The ONLY, and I repeat ONLY way we SHOULD ever ever EVER begrudgingly agree to see alex pato leave us, is if it were to happen in either of these two circumstances:
1) Pato to Madrid for Benzema and 40 mil. (With the 40 mil: we buy milos krasic (20) , hernanes (12-15), young defender (5-8)
2) Pato to Chelsea for Drogba, Ivanovic and 35 mil. (Krasic, Hernanes)
With...
Ronnie + Krasic (he can run!) supporting either Benz or Drog (who can run!) (Borriello, Hunter), with an Hernanes (he runs/works hard!), Pirlo, Flamini/Ambro (they run, albeit sometimes with their heads cut off!) midfield (seedorf = supersub), and a backline with versatility: Abate/Zambro/Ivanovic, Thiago/Ivanovic/Yepes, Nesta/Ivanovic/Yepes, Antonini/Zambro...
We challenge for a treble...and alex pato becomes a player we like, EXCEPT when he plays milan.
However, if he is sold in any capacity OTHER than what's outlined above, Milan gets pushed to the back burner until Berlusconi leaves, and I start devoting my passion towards Harry Redknapps TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR!
1) Pato to Madrid for Benzema and 40 mil. (With the 40 mil: we buy milos krasic (20) , hernanes (12-15), young defender (5-8)
2) Pato to Chelsea for Drogba, Ivanovic and 35 mil. (Krasic, Hernanes)
With...
Ronnie + Krasic (he can run!) supporting either Benz or Drog (who can run!) (Borriello, Hunter), with an Hernanes (he runs/works hard!), Pirlo, Flamini/Ambro (they run, albeit sometimes with their heads cut off!) midfield (seedorf = supersub), and a backline with versatility: Abate/Zambro/Ivanovic, Thiago/Ivanovic/Yepes, Nesta/Ivanovic/Yepes, Antonini/Zambro...
We challenge for a treble...and alex pato becomes a player we like, EXCEPT when he plays milan.
However, if he is sold in any capacity OTHER than what's outlined above, Milan gets pushed to the back burner until Berlusconi leaves, and I start devoting my passion towards Harry Redknapps TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR!
QUOTE (vnata001 @ Apr 17 2010, 11:24 PM)
I start devoting my passion towards Harry Redknapps TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR!
I have alot of passion aimed at Harry Redknapp and while he's in charge I hope his Tottingham Lolspurs fail miserably. I don't think I hate anything on Earth more than that 'person'.
We don't just need a Pirlo replacement, we need a Pirlo heir. Someone is going to have to take his position sooner rather than later it seems and I'd like to see them bring in a young guy to learn from the master for a season or two.
intresting well its good to see that were gonna get things clear from the on so we dont have another tense summer building up into disappointment just expect a few kids in and perhaps 1-3 decent signings - exc mario yepes
I completely agree with vnata and to answer the pirlo heir thing...i think hernanes would be perfect for that role. he could either replace pirlo eventually or seedorf right now
QUOTE (tomahawk @ Apr 17 2010, 10:42 PM)
I completely agree with vnata and to answer the pirlo heir thing...i think hernanes would be perfect for that role. he could either replace pirlo eventually or seedorf right now
I like you. I have been pro-hernanes for a while now
We've commited TOO much money on 30+ players to be competitive :Kaladzhe,favalli, zambrotta,jankulovski,nesta,oddo, abbiatti, dida, roma, ambro, beckham, rino, pirlo, seedorf, mancini, pippo, are pretty much all making 2m+ (i'm guessing and for the talent mentioned that is revolting.
I mostly agree with you on the money for pensioners plan, mtl. But I'll make an exception for Nesta and Pirlo. Those two, I think, are worth it.
I don't think Favster's making 2mln/year. Maybe 1mln. Gazzetta's wage thingy was posted somewhere on here.
I don't think Favster's making 2mln/year. Maybe 1mln. Gazzetta's wage thingy was posted somewhere on here.
this squad would compete (wiith little changes)
boriello - Hunter
Ronaldinho............................Pato
Rakitic*-flamini
Kolarov - Thiago silva - Zapata - Antonini
Viviano
rakitic would be pushing it, being as we could live with pirlo another year, but with a repaired backline we don't look so bad
boriello - Hunter
Ronaldinho............................Pato
Rakitic*-flamini
Kolarov - Thiago silva - Zapata - Antonini
Viviano
rakitic would be pushing it, being as we could live with pirlo another year, but with a repaired backline we don't look so bad
QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Apr 18 2010, 01:56 PM)
I mostly agree with you on the money for pensioners plan, mtl. But I'll make an exception for Nesta and Pirlo. Those two, I think, are worth it.
I don't think Favster's making 2mln/year. Maybe 1mln. Gazzetta's wage thingy was posted somewhere on here.
I don't think Favster's making 2mln/year. Maybe 1mln. Gazzetta's wage thingy was posted somewhere on here.
nesta is a part time player and with thiago showing us why his stint at porto didn't last too long (injuries), can't be counted on 25+ games a year, We need deph, and it's sad to say but we need a #1 Cb because the dropoff from nesta/thiago to favalli and kaladzhe is enormous (i' not mentioning Bonera...he's dead to me)
That's ALOT of money into SOOO little current talent
Again, I agree with you, mtl. We need a top rate cb. I'd love Bonucci but don't think we're likely to get him. I'd reall love Chiellini but...
There was talk today in tuttomercatoweb about Stuttgart's Serdar Tasci again today. He'd be an option.
Zapata...I liked him last year but Udine's been almost as leaky as Juve this year.
There was talk today in tuttomercatoweb about Stuttgart's Serdar Tasci again today. He'd be an option.
Zapata...I liked him last year but Udine's been almost as leaky as Juve this year.
QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Apr 18 2010, 02:06 PM)
Again, I agree with you, mtl. We need a top rate cb. I'd love Bonucci but don't think we're likely to get him. I'd reall love Chiellini but...
There was talk today in tuttomercatoweb about Stuttgart's Serdar Tasci again today. He'd be an option.
Zapata...I liked him last year but Udine's been almost as leaky as Juve this year.
There was talk today in tuttomercatoweb about Stuttgart's Serdar Tasci again today. He'd be an option.
Zapata...I liked him last year but Udine's been almost as leaky as Juve this year.
most of the goals conceded our because of their FBs M. Motta left the RB position wide open and Lukovic is USELESS at LB. their CBs are actually very good, enough so that they sent Felipe To florence on loan.
Hrm. And Motta has hardly played at Roma (what do folks think about him?).
That said, I agree. We need fullbacks (or at the very least a good RB; I rather like Antonini), a GOOD centerback, a regista and maybe another attacker.
Wonder if we're likely to get any of those.
That said, I agree. We need fullbacks (or at the very least a good RB; I rather like Antonini), a GOOD centerback, a regista and maybe another attacker.
Wonder if we're likely to get any of those.
QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Apr 18 2010, 02:14 PM)
Hrm. And Motta has hardly played at Roma (what do folks think about him?).
That said, I agree. We need fullbacks (or at the very least a good RB; I rather like Antonini), a GOOD centerback, a regista and maybe another attacker.
Wonder if we're likely to get any of those.
That said, I agree. We need fullbacks (or at the very least a good RB; I rather like Antonini), a GOOD centerback, a regista and maybe another attacker.
Wonder if we're likely to get any of those.
I love Marco motta, and for the life of me don't understand why Ranieri dosn't feature him more. He was IMO Serie A's most complet RB (better defensively then Maicon) last year. Then again i'm bias, i love Udinese and watch alot of their games, it's a tribute to the teams structure that they have been able to keep such a squad of great players with barely any demanding to leave i mean look at their lineup last year that pretty much got off to the best start in serie A in the bigining: Felipe, Quagliarella*, Motta*, Zapata, asamoah, D'agostinio Di natale, Isla(so versatile), Sanchez, Inler, HANDANOVIC!!!!! (forza slovenja). They are so good at recruiting youth players too. The problem is the coaches havn't been able to find a a way to make all the talent work together, much like ciro failed to do in Juve
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