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Linkman
Rofl, Dida wanna-be

To be honest, if Robinho indeed comes, I'd like us to try a three-man defense and have both thre 3-man and 4-man defenses as alternatives.That way, when all 4 of our frickin' stellar offensive line are fit, we go for the win... and if one's down, we go back to our tried and true.

But I reckon that's suicide in serie A.
CHU-LIP
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 30 2010, 12:38 AM) *
Well realistically if he comes and allegri had to play them all....he'd probably do this:



----------------Ibra--------

Ronaldinho--Robinho---Pato


-----Ambrosini------Pirlo-----


------WALL OF CHINA------

Come on, that line-up simply doesn't make sense. Sign Van der Vaart instead then, I'd say...
Bluesummers
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Aug 29 2010, 06:40 PM) *
Come on, that line-up simply doesn't make sense. Sign Van der Vaart instead then, I'd say...



how else could we line them up?

Dinho can't play in the center...maybe pato?


But like I said i prefer VDV aswell. I'm just going by what Silvio is most likely to do as Robinho will come on loan with half his wages paid by city. Then next year we'll sign him on a free rolleyes.gif Free deals gets galliani and Berlu's blood flowing to you know where laugh.gif
CHU-LIP
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 29 2010, 11:42 PM) *
how else could we line them up?

Dinho can't play in the center...maybe pato?

Pato is the last one of the four who should play as the AMC.....

maybe switch Ronaldinho and Robinho.... but no..... NOT ALL 4 should play!! Just 3 of them.... a team needs more than just attackers...... 4 players to rotate for 3 positions.. what's the problem with that?
Bluesummers
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Aug 29 2010, 05:44 PM) *
Pato is the last one of the four who should play as the AMC.....

maybe switch Ronaldinho and Robinho.... but no..... NOT ALL 4 should play!! Just 3 of them.... a team needs more than just attackers...... 4 players to rotate for 3 positions.. what's the problem with that?


Their Egos.


Thats 4 WC players. I'd find very hard if I were in Allegri's position to bench any of them considering if they look at the other players on the field outside the 4 they'd get pissed.


If I were any of them I'd say how could you bench me but play seedorf/pirlo/ambro etc. ?
Linkman
As long as the rotations indeed happen and all players are happy... Go for it.

(by the way our transfers this season are a massive "screw you" to Leo... Allegri gets Boateng, Amelia, Ibra, Sokratis, Leo got... Hunterlaar.)
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Linkman @ Aug 29 2010, 06:47 PM) *
As long as the rotations indeed happen and all players are happy... Go for it.

(by the way our transfers this season are a massive "screw you" to Leo... Allegri gets Boateng, Amelia, Ibra, Sokratis, Leo got... Hunterlaar.)


unfortunately Leo didn't get on his knees and do enough dirty work for silvio wink.gif Allegri was smart and did that before he signed. laugh.gif
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 29 2010, 06:01 PM) *
Silvio's fetish for attackers needs to be tamed!!

Why not bring in a RB or another mid, that's where we really need another signing

Agreed.

While we all like a big name attacked. I would prefer a strengthened Mid Field & Defence at this point.

Oh well. I am greatful at least for what we ended up getting this transfer window, as it's more than I expected.
Fishdoll
Y'know, if the club IS going for the old 'stick the middle finger to teams we don't like' thing, since we've already annoyed inert, we could annoy the gobbi by going for Toto Di Natale. He turned them down. smile.gif
CHU-LIP
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 30 2010, 12:46 AM) *
Their Egos.


Thats 4 WC players. I'd find very hard if I were in Allegri's position to bench any of them considering if they look at the other players on the field outside the 4 they'd get pissed.


If I were any of them I'd say how could you bench me but play seedorf/pirlo/ambro etc. ?

Because they are midfielders, duh!

Well, ego might be a problem... but if Robinho is okay with not starting every game, he seems like the perfect signing if we sell both Borriello and Huntelaar. If Robinho becomes annoying when being benched, then we simply should not sign him.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Aug 30 2010, 01:49 AM) *
Y'know, if the club IS going for the old 'stick the middle finger to teams we don't like' thing, since we've already annoyed inert, we could annoy the gobbi by going for Toto Di Natale. He turned them down. smile.gif


With all respect, no thanks.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Aug 29 2010, 06:53 PM) *
Because they are midfielders, duh!

Well, ego might be a problem... but if Robinho is okay with not starting every game, he seems like the perfect signing if we sell both Borriello and Huntelaar. If Robinho becomes annoying when being benched, then we simply should not sign him.



couldn't agree more but players don't think like that and especially not mercanaries like robinho and ibra.



They will come only to milan if they are guaranteed time. Otherwise they wouldn't come.

Ibra didn't take a pay cut to sit on the bench and neither will Robinho.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 29 2010, 06:54 PM) *
With all respect, no thanks.


+1


sticking it to inter is one thing but I'd rather not piss of Juve. I don't want to us to become like Inter where the rest of Italy hates us.
Jack Bauer
QUOTE (acid911 @ Aug 30 2010, 02:32 AM) *
So would I, but even Barca are not not THAT stupid to let him come to us. wink.gif Maxwell is a great cover option for them when their first XI player (read Abidal) gets injured or needs a break. Though it must be said a guy like Maxwell is much needed here in Milan, and I'm all for his signing. Just not sure the Spanish club will let him go.

They aslo have Adriano (bought him from Sevilla) who can play both left full back and midfielder. I think Maxwell transfer is possible if we push hard enough.

BTW about VDV - I'm not sure that he will want to go here because of his bad relationship with Zlatan from their Ajax days.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Aug 29 2010, 06:10 PM) *
They aslo have Adriano (bought him from Sevilla) who can play both left full back and midfielder. I think Maxwell transfer is possible if we push hard enough.

BTW about VDV - I'm not sure that he will want to go here because of his bad relationship with Zlatan from their Ajax days.


yeah I remember that. Didn't zlatan kick him in training on purpose or something.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 30 2010, 02:11 AM) *
yeah I remember that. Didn't zlatan kick him in training on purpose or something.


Yup.
CHU-LIP
Oh, I kinda forgot Van der Vaart and Zlatan had a fight back then. I remember very well the fight between Mido and Zlatan though.

Hmm.. Zlatan was a bit nasty back then... no wonder I didn't like him
Bluesummers




edit:


Chu please change your DP, it kills everytime i see her. She is too hot cry.gif One of the hottest girls I have ever seen!

so cute and sexy wub.gif
Bluesummers
WOW JUST WOW GALLIANI IS A F**KING GENIUS!

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!



-Raiola and Galliani have dinner over the possibility of Maxwell.

-Robinho negotations begin with a huge discout. Reported price 10m.

(now watch us sign him for 5 laugh.gif the people at the barcaforum are calling galliani a robbing mafioso laugh.gif )

FIFA agent Vincenzo Morabito confirmed, speaking of the possible landing Robinho at Milan, the absolute viability of the deal: "Robinho has a deal with Milan absolutely feasible. The Brazilian is no longer in plans Manchester City and AC Milan has long been waiting for him. It remains only to understand if he will arrive immediately or January. "


Ibra: "Zanetti? Before I arrived at Inter he had won nothing" dry.gif (at least actl ike your in milan, these comments are not welcome!)


milannews.it
Fishdoll
Just as exciting as it was 2-3 pages ago, yep.

I'd still be in favor of a Maxwell signing.
Bluesummers
Robinho and Maxwell arrive before tuesday....noooo that would be too much. That would be def fantasy mercato.
Jack Bauer
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 30 2010, 03:13 AM) *
Yup.

The injury was during the international game between Sweden and Holland. Rafael's (hot) wife was the one who accused Ibra in the media and said it was intentional.
RinoIlCapitano
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 30 2010, 01:31 AM) *
Robinho and Maxwell arrive before tuesday....noooo that would be too much. That would be def fantasy mercato.

Oh god that would be massive, but it is possible, berlusca was super happy those days and close to the team so maybe he got crazy and he will make another super milan with maxwel and robinho. I think we are even now super but we will get depth which we definitelly need if we want to be on max levels in scudetto and CL
Linkman
God guys, if we can sign Robinho by just $10m... I honestly can't say no to that.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Linkman @ Aug 30 2010, 03:06 AM) *
God guys, if we can sign Robinho by just $10m... I honestly can't say no to that.


I know, right? It's just too worthy of an opportunity to let it slip.
alskor
QUOTE (elcordobez @ Aug 29 2010, 05:17 PM) *
Janku looks fit now he'll definitely help with depth.

more on the Ibra transfer -



- Galliani

http://www.football-italia.net/aug29r.html

Uncle fester you sly dog

Knew it!

I'm telling you... Ibra was their guy all along and Barca has been desperate to move him all along. Everything in between was just talk.

---------------------------------------------------------------------

On Robinho - Robinho makes plenty of sense. Another target who wants to move and the team is desperate to move.

Where would he play? Put him on the opposite wing, as part of the tridente with Pato and Ibra and let Ronnie roam where ever he wants on attack. That lineup would be utter devastation on attack. Unstoppable. You play Ambro/Boateng/Flamini behind those guys and make them stay back and track back even more. Pirlo links it all. He will have to stay back even more (which is fine, since he doesn't really have the pace to stay with this attack any more) and the other DM will have to play more of a strict holding role than we're used to, and the full backs will really have to sit back more or work. Plus, don't expect to see all 3 together all the time anyway. It really lets us rest one of Ibra/Robinho/Pato/Dinho a lot - which is big, since this team is looking a strong candidate for both Scudetto and Europe.


-------------------Ibra-------------------
---Robinho-----------------------Pato---} Attacking Tridente

------------------Ronnie---------------- (let him roam)

----------Ambro---------Pirlo------------

Anton.------Nesta----Silva-----Zambro


Above all else, you find a way to make it work if you get him at a price you like - because it is rare opportunity and difficult to add players of Robinho's quality. He is both a present and future asset of the highest caliber. If you can get an impact talent like this relatively on the cheap you go get him and figure it out afterwards.

EDIT: and you get him - because right now there aren't a whole lot of possible landing spots for him (though Barca is apparently looking to drop 18-20m on a left winger and he could easily be the guy). The next talent like this that is available to us at a price we like may not come along for a while - and when it happens there may be other teams like Real, Chelsea, Man U, Man City, etc... who are looking for a player like that then.
MizNelson
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 29 2010, 04:38 PM) *
----------------Ibra--------

Ronaldinho--Robinho---Pato


-----Ambrosini------Pirlo-----


------WALL OF CHINA------

---------DIDA-WANNABE----


What took you so long to see the light? smile.gif
MilanManiac9
Personally I'm not a huge fan of Ambro, and in my opinion the Armband should go to Gatusso, Zambrotta, or Pirlo. But, I guess if the Management thinks he's worth the spot in the starting XI, I may as well get over it. As for an ideal line-up, here's mine as of 8-29-2010 (assuming we pick up Robinho):

---Robinho---Ibra---Pato---

---------Ronaldinho---------
-Boateng----------Gatusso-
-----------Pirlo [C]----------

---Anton.---Nesta---Zambrotta---

Dida


I think, even though this will probably happen right after Maldini becomes an Inter fan (yeah, I mean that this will not happen in a billion years), that we should try to pick up Tim Howard to replace Dida. I like Dida, but the guy seems to be one catastrophe after another (I mean, the man got hit with a freakin' firework, so he's pretty much a disaster-magnet). Howard had a phenomenal World Cup, has experience but youth as well, and is one of the best GKs in the Barclays Premier League. Just a thought.
TriniKing_CE
Okay, so this is where I jump in and ask when last you watched Milan's games? huh.gif
Bluesummers
Been reading reports and what journalists have had to say these last few days and what berlu said today just confirms it.

I'm 99% sure he'll arrive. I think i'm going to say it now devil.gif



WELCOME TO MILAN ROBINHO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!








Ibra will probably wear 99

Robinho will wear 11



------Ibra---

Ronnie-robbie-ducky



--

Kaladze's transfer to genoa will be done today most likely. Its going to be a loan with half of his wages paid by us (2m)

Not bad deal imo.

MN/TMW
pippo ah badman
QUOTE
AC MILAN, Borriello : "I could leave...."

After AC Milan's 4-0 win over Lecce, the Rossoneri's striker Marco Borriello (28) told reporters at San Siro stadium : "I could leave AC Milan before the transfer market shuts down on Tuesday evening. I am 28 years old and I am not keen on becoming a reserve now that the club officials have signed an additional forward (i.e. Zlatan Ibrahimovic). I heard the rumours about Juventus being interested in me. I say anything can happen, so let's wait and see .....".

Note : As recently reported here on Football Press, Borriello is indeed tracked by Juventus. Developments are expected between Monday and Tuesday.


Link: http://www.footballpress.net/?action=read&idsel=68490
MilanManiac9
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Aug 30 2010, 12:30 AM) *
Okay, so this is where I jump in and ask when last you watched Milan's games? huh.gif

Who, me? Quite often, thank you. At any rate, often enough to know that our back line likes to be in shambles. If there's anything we need, it's Maldini and Jaap Stam back in their primes. That was truly the greatest back four we have ever (and probably will ever have) seen in Rossoneri kits.
pippo ah badman
QUOTE (MilanManiac9 @ Aug 29 2010, 08:41 PM) *
Who, me? Quite often, thank you. At any rate, often enough to know that our back line likes to be in shambles. If there's anything we need, it's Maldini and Jaap Stam back in their primes. That was truly the greatest back four we have ever (and probably will ever have) seen in Rossoneri kits.

We? ...or U?

And you do know Dida is no longer with Milan right?
Bluesummers
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Aug 29 2010, 10:30 PM) *
Okay, so this is where I jump in and ask when last you watched Milan's games? huh.gif



+1 I would assist but you got this one wink.gif

show them the ways of the force Master Yoda!
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (MilanManiac9 @ Aug 30 2010, 12:41 AM) *
Who, me? Quite often, thank you. At any rate, often enough to know that our back line likes to be in shambles. If there's anything we need, it's Maldini and Jaap Stam back in their primes. That was truly the greatest back four we have ever (and probably will ever have) seen in Rossoneri kits.

blink.gif

....



laugh.gif



QUOTE (pippo ah badman @ Aug 30 2010, 12:43 AM) *
We? ...or U?

And you do know Dida is no longer with Milan right?

+1

Although not in most recent times, there has been a better backline and it consisted of:
Franco Baresi, Paolo Maldini, Alessandro Costacurta and Mauro Tassotti.

wink.gif


And FYI... it considered by many as the best Defence ever, not just in Milan!
Bluesummers
QUOTE
AC Milan are poised to sign Uruguayan central defender Sebastian Coates (19) from Nacional before the end of the month.

footballpress.net
TriniKing_CE
I'm not to sure what to make of the Robinho rumors. I wouldn't really be against him coming but at the same time I don't want him at the expense of Boriello. I know he will not be the obvious starter anymore since Ibra has arrived, thats understood, but I would still like him in the team as I like his characteristics as a forward, and he'll make good back up. (then again... I guess it also depends on if he is willing to stay on as back up - as is being reported in news he isn't keen on the idea) *sigh*

Though, if we're able to buy more players why not a: WB, CB, or CM? unsure.gif

I guess it cuz they would be getting Binho at a (considered) knock off price. So...

Whatever happens, happens - Lets wait and see!
MilanManiac9
Yes, I know Dida is gone, I was suggesting we bring him back. I know he's inconsistent, but from how he played against Panathinaikos in Detroit, Abby isn't any better.

Okay, maybe the back line has been a bit better than what I said, but Maldini is still the heart and soul of Milan. If we had him from a few years ago, we wouldn't have such an upstart Captain. Ambro can never, ever replace Paolo, Armband or no. Pirlo is the closest one we have to a true leader for Milan, and as I said, Zambrotta and even Gatusso would be better for the Captaincy than Ambro.

Maybe we should pick up Sergio Ramos... dreamyeyesf.gif
Bluesummers
This is about to get very entertaining smoke.gif


TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (MilanManiac9 @ Aug 30 2010, 01:07 AM) *
Yes, I know Dida is gone, I was suggesting we bring him back. I know he's inconsistent, but from how he played against Panathinaikos in Detroit, Abby isn't any better.

Okay, maybe the back line has been a bit better than what I said, but Maldini is still the heart and soul of Milan. If we had him from a few years ago, we wouldn't have such an upstart Captain. Ambro can never, ever replace Paolo, Armband or no. Pirlo is the closest one we have to a true leader for Milan, and as I said, Zambrotta and even Gatusso would be better for the Captaincy than Ambro.

Maybe we should pick up Sergio Ramos... dreamyeyesf.gif

First off... please explain how Zambrotta would ever qualify as a captain contender at Milan?

Secondly, Dida's time at Milan was as good as over...

As was Maldini's and hence when he chose to hang up his boots.

Would you have honestly still liked him on the field? ...Because I can recall a serious lack in his pace, & his knee problems, which the in latter (most recent) years of his career caused him to be somewhat embarrassed by players that should only dream of getting past him.

I fail to see how Maldini still playing would help us?

Sergio Ramos is overrated as a Defender at best. IMO.
anano1214
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 29 2010, 10:38 PM) *


looks sexy


The milan colours really suit him smile.gif

i agree smile.gif) he looks really good in milan colours smile.gif))
anano1214
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 29 2010, 10:58 PM) *
Borriello: "I could leave. Juve? I wouldn't exclude it."

Link

Berlusconi: "We could sign another champion (Robinho)."

Link

i prefer Borriello stay , i don't like Robinho ... i think bori is much better than him... he played in RM, Man City and played very bad
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 30 2010, 12:40 AM) *
Been reading reports and what journalists have had to say these last few days and what berlu said today just confirms it.

I'm 99% sure he'll arrive. I think i'm going to say it now devil.gif


WELCOME TO MILAN ROBINHO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you really feel that confident that he will arrive?

I just wish we could have had more of a balance in the side. Don't get me wrong though, this is obviously WAY better than last year, so don't take my statements of concern to be that of complaining.

I just think our bigger area of concern wasn't quite addressed as it should have been.

*Fingers Crossed* - That our Starting 11 doesn't get injury set backs smile.gif
anano1214
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 30 2010, 12:33 AM) *
Maxwell would be great. Everything we need he gots. Serie A experience, defensive quality, he's an old Interista,...

+1
anano1214
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 30 2010, 01:25 AM) *
WOW JUST WOW GALLIANI IS A F**KING GENIUS!

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!


-Robinho negotations begin with a huge discout. Reported price 10m.

(now watch us sign him for 5 laugh.gif the people at the barcaforum are calling galliani a robbing mafioso laugh.gif )

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL smile.gif)) haha
anano1214
QUOTE (MilanManiac9 @ Aug 30 2010, 05:16 AM) *
Personally I'm not a huge fan of Ambro, and in my opinion the Armband should go to Gatusso, Zambrotta, or Pirlo.

+1
alskor
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Aug 30 2010, 12:58 AM) *
I'm not to sure what to make of the Robinho rumors. I wouldn't really be against him coming but at the same time I don't want him at the expense of Boriello.

You would forego Robinho, one of the best young attacking players in the world and a star of the Brazilian National team (they're not bad, fwiw) for a backup forward...?

I'm not sure I understand the line of thinking here. Besides which, Bori's desire to leave was tied to the arrival of Ibra and doesn't really have anything to do with Robinho - other than obviously rendering him even more unnecessary.

I think people are making too much of Robinho's lack of success at Man City. That was a dysfunctional environment and he really never adapted to England. He has been outstanding on loan back with Santos. He's a versatile offensive weapon and he's just going to get better. Not to mention the off the field benefits... This would mark a Galacticos-like buying spree for Milan (and somewhat on the cheap) that really puts this side back into the forefront on the international stage. The on-field benefits... well, how would you like to add an "8" on the sleeve?

QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Aug 30 2010, 12:58 AM) *
I would still like him in the team as I like his characteristics as a forward

I'm sure we can find someone else to blow easy opportunities in front of the goal. wink.gif

/kidding

I do agree Bori leaving would hurt. We'd be completely without a backup target striker. If he leaves the depth chart would look something like:

-Ibra
-Pato
-Ronaldinho

-(Robinho if he comes)
-(I'm assuming KJH leaves either way)
-Pippo
-uh... Oduamadi, maybe?

We wouldn't be particularly deep at forward and we really don't have anyone else around who can do what Ibra does. Not that anyone can do what he does, but we have no one who even plays similar - no one who can play with their back to the goal and be physical, distribute, etc... Dinho and a few others, maybe even Pirlo, can play a support forward role, but doing that and/or moving those guys out of other roles could drastically change how we play. So without Boriello we do lose something... and we suddenly look very thin up front.

Pippo is a fine backup, but he doesn't have that kind of game and can we count on him to play much if anyone gets hurt? I wouldn't want to bet on it. He's best used as an injection of energy off the bench after the hour mark, IMO. He's been great in that role and asking him to do more (other than occasional starts, especially during weeks when we have tough UCL matches on Tues/Wed) at this stage of his career is a bad idea.

With so little time left in the transfer window its gonna be hard to find a cheap replacement willing to take a bench role... especially a decent quality player (like Bori) who has that same kind of skill set... So, most likely they tell Bori to get over himself, I think.
Jack Sparrow
The way I see it...if we expect to be strong, the team needs to play the way they did yesterday. And for all those people to be running back, tracking runs etc... is impossible. Considering we're playing 60 games a season even with Ibra, it's not possible.

What Robinho offers is something extremely vital. A replacement for R80 and/or Pato, without a too significant dip in quality. Should he come at the cost of Borriello? I don't know. Maybe Beretta could be promoted if they haven't sent him away already.

I'm not worried about egos. That's the one thing that doesn't worry me in Milan. We've always had our stars happy here. Even the ones who left, left admitting they weren't good enough to earn a place.
TriniKing_CE
Truth be told... ^
Bluesummers
Thats def true.

In the book Soccernomics, they say Milan is the best footballing club in terms of atmosphere, helping players adjust and overall treatment of players.

Its several levels above everybody else. It says we are a club that does alot to make sure the players are happy and enjoying their time....hence why no one wants to leave biggrin.gif
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