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samira
I don't see Dzeko in Milan right now but VDV and Honda yes.
But what happend to Honda, one day we want Honda and next day, no news about him
vahid
QUOTE (mkenya @ Aug 2 2010, 12:43 PM) *
..there's this italian kid playing for ManU and doing well, I've forgotten the name...

Federico Macheda?
Dracoris
Roma might be taking Janku off our hands!!

woot

We bought VDV and he will help us win the Scudetto

Source:

ERROR:Broken Link to: My dreams
d'Arc.LP
QUOTE (Dracoris @ Aug 2 2010, 03:19 PM) *
Roma might be taking Janku off our hands!!

woot

We bought VDV and he will help us win the Scudetto

Source:

ERROR:Broken Link to: My dreams


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Fishdoll
How's this for you, Dracoris:

Tuttomercatoweb is reporting (not sure where from, probably Marca) that Real are now offering 20 million + VDV for Thiago Silva.

Would you take that?
m1ke
No. No no no no.
d'Arc.LP
Yes if with those 20 milion we buy another good defender.
X-Offender
QUOTE (mkenya @ Aug 2 2010, 02:43 PM) *
..i think this is the major problem with Milan and serie A generally, at 26 a player is still considered v.young..the reason why players like Giovinco, Santon, go to waste..there's this italian kid playing for ManU and doing well, I've forgotten the name..imo youth should be given a decent chance..


Aggregating 1-2 players from the primavera every season would be fine, but passing that limit would be too much of a risk. I think Strasser and Verdi would be ready for that, but I don't know about the rest.
littlechris
QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Aug 2 2010, 03:37 PM) *
How's this for you, Dracoris:

Tuttomercatoweb is reporting (not sure where from, probably Marca) that Real are now offering 20 million + VDV for Thiago Silva.

Would you take that?


guys what about mesut ozil he has a year left on his current contract, i think bremen will listen to offer for him before they lose him on free transfer next summer though i heard madrid is in pole position for him if he is free next summer, i think we should bid for him now.

if jankulovski leave we should sign gareth bale at all cost as a long lasting solution for to left wing back.

bale 15 million
ozil 1o

but are very young and talented. 20 and 21 years respectively.
X-Offender
I'd sign Oezil on the spot, but I doubt our management would be willing spend $$$ for someone who has a year left in his contract. We're just poor like that.
Dracoris
I would seriously consider it. Silva was the man last year, and I am hard pressed to think of another decent CB on the market that would be available that is at the same skill level as Silva. Sokratis could fit in his place well I think, but I doubt that he will play as good. Bonera could move back to CB from RB for depth options. But we'd definitely need a new purchase. 20m could probably get Juventus to sell us Chiellini....

Until I can come up with a good replacement my answer would be no.



I would also sign Ozil in a hearbeat, but considering the competition from Madrid, City, Manchester etc. we would be quickly out priced.
han2503
Why would you even consider selling Silva? Ok so solve a minor problem in attack and create a massive problem in defence. We're not going to buy a top defender if we do sell him, a good defender is hard to come by not to mention the price tag that would be put on his head.

I would end up costing us more then if we would just sign VDV outright.

VDV is a great player, but I wouldn't want him at the cost of Thiago
Bluesummers
I dont know, i'm with Jack on this one. I say enough with trying to sign players and build teams; its not going to work with the current model of milan.



If we have 15-20m every season to spend, were going to have to do alot of loans in order to be competitive. I say lets suffer 3-4 years and let the kids get experience; then we'll have a good team.

We aren't arsenal, everyone knows that. If wenger got 7th or 8th, his policy would still continue. If we got 7th or 8th, we would spend to fix it just like we did when we got 5th.


We have alot of talented youth now. We should really give them a chance.


Gk=Donnaruma/perruchini/di fabio

RB=Darmian/santonocito

CB=albertazzi/romagnoli/pasini

LB=de vito/desole

CM=merkel/strasser/novinic/fossatti/samparisi/hottor

FW=zigoni/berreta/oudamadi/ikande/Verdi/Palibrk
Dracoris
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 2 2010, 02:44 PM) *
I dont know, i'm with Jack on this one. I say enough with trying to sign players and build teams; its not going to work with the current model of milan.



If we have 15-20m every season to spend, were going to have to do alot of loans in order to be competitive. I say lets suffer 3-4 years and let the kids get experience; then we'll have a good team.

We aren't arsenal, everyone knows that. If wenger got 7th or 8th, his policy would still continue. If we got 7th or 8th, we would spend to fix it just like we did when we got 5th.


We have alot of talented youth now. We should really give them a chance.


Gk=Donnaruma/perruchini/di fabio

RB=Darmian/santonocito

CB=albertazzi/romagnoli/pasini

LB=de vito/desole

CM=merkel/strasser/novinic/fossatti/samparisi/hottor

FW=zigoni/berreta/oudamadi/ikande/Verdi/Palibrk


Theres a reason every team doesn't use cheap 20 year old kids. They just arn't usually good enough. I am all for giving them experience, and in two to three years time they might become the stars of Milan. When our youth can walkout and dominate a high powered CL game, then I say we give them their starting position. Moving them up to first team too soon runs the risk of them rotting on the bench and then being transferred away.

Like I said, IF we could get a replacement just as good as Silva, which would mean there would not be a gaping problem in defense because it would be fixed, then yes I would do it. But I can't think of a suitable replacement for Silva that is openly available anyways.

mishie
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 2 2010, 07:44 PM) *
I dont know, i'm with Jack on this one. I say enough with trying to sign players and build teams; its not going to work with the current model of milan.



If we have 15-20m every season to spend, were going to have to do alot of loans in order to be competitive. I say lets suffer 3-4 years and let the kids get experience; then we'll have a good team.

We aren't arsenal, everyone knows that. If wenger got 7th or 8th, his policy would still continue. If we got 7th or 8th, we would spend to fix it just like we did when we got 5th.


We have alot of talented youth now. We should really give them a chance.


Gk=Donnaruma/perruchini/di fabio

RB=Darmian/santonocito

CB=albertazzi/romagnoli/pasini

LB=de vito/desole

CM=merkel/strasser/novinic/fossatti/samparisi/hottor

FW=zigoni/berreta/oudamadi/ikande/Verdi/Palibrk

Yeah i can really see you guys doing that. Christ we lose 1 game and half the forum thinks we're in crisis!!
Yes i'm all for promoting the youth and have said so on many occasions and often questioned why we weren't producing the players....so in theory good idea in practice not sure how many "fans" would have the patience and don't forget the immortal quote......"We are Milan after all"

not a criticism just food for thought wink.gif
Bluesummers
QUOTE (mishie @ Aug 2 2010, 01:44 PM) *
Yeah i can really see you guys doing that. Christ we lose 1 game and half the forum thinks we're in crisis!!
Yes i'm all for promoting the youth and have said so on many occasions and often questioned why we weren't producing the players....so in theory good idea in practice not sure how many "fans" would have the patience and don't forget the immortal quote......"We are Milan after all"

not a criticism just food for thought wink.gif


I fully agree.


I will admit I was one of those that said "We are Milan afterall" and that we shouldn't lose and its all silvio fault etc etc.


But i've come to realise it solves nothing, all it does is create scapegoats towards people who could care less. We as fans need to realise this club's belongs to its supporters and not one single entity.


Bashing Silvio will solve nothing. We need to look at our situation and realise that we have no money, our owner who injected cash into our club for 25 years has stopped, we are an old squad, we have a poor mgmt in terms of backroom stuff, we have poor stadium attendance, we have an unbalanced wage bill, we barely have any sponsors.




These problems run deep but they are slowly getting fixed.


The positives:


1) We have bought a youth system. I give full credit to Galli, Pederzoli and Stroppa for the fine work they've done so far. I would say with the youth we have coming up, I'd place us in the top 10 best youth academies in the world.

2) Our club's financial structure is in good health in comparison to others. We are very forunate because we've mainly bought players for the last 25 years instead of tried to grow our own talent. Madrid has done a similar thing and they will eventually pay the price for their massive debt.

3) We have 7 champions league trophies wink.gif We need to realize what the significance of that.

4) Poor mgmt. This is a part of the club that needs to be addressed and it has been getting addressed slowly. We are rapidly building youth projects all over the world and promoting the milan style. We have strived to bring in more sponsors. We are playing more and more freindly matches, making us a marketable product. We are already going hardcore into the USA market. We just need to breach Japan and China.

5) MilanLab. As it stands currently, we have the best Sports Science research development centre in the world for soccer. According to the book "Soccernomics" We are the only club in the world to be able to have several players at the age of 30+ sustain consistent performances at the highest level and feature regularly in our starting line up. Most other clubs will have 1 or 2 at most.






So all in all its not all gloom and doom. Yes we are going to suffer for a few years. This is given, lets not deny it or try and sugar coat it. The possibility of us finishing under 4th place is very possible. But thats what a soccer club is.


There are the dark years, then the domination years, then the dark years.
Dracoris
It was indeed Marca that reported the story.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy/2010/...er-thiago-silva

han2503
QUOTE (Dracoris @ Aug 3 2010, 01:02 AM) *
It was indeed Marca that reported the story.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy/2010/...er-thiago-silva

Thus it is total BS
Fishdoll
Tuttomercatoweb reports that Milan may be making a bid for Lazio's Cristian Ledesma.
han2503
QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Aug 3 2010, 10:26 AM) *
Tuttomercatoweb reports that Milan may be making a bid for Lazio's Cristian Ledesma.

Hmm, I'm ok with that. I kind of like him
JimboMilano
UK tabloid Daily Mirror is reporting that AC Milan could sign Mexican attacking midfielder Giovani Dos Santos in exchange for striker Klaas-Jan Huntelaar
Link


Portsmouth have lowered their asking price for Prince Boateng, they won't ask for more than €7.2m for the Ghana international midfielder. Lazio is close to signing him. I would love to see him in a Milan jersey
Link

AC Milan have joined Inter Milan and Genoa in the pursuit of Brazilian right-back Ilsinho, who was recently released from Shakhtar Donetsk.
Link
Coldest
QUOTE (JimboMilano @ Aug 3 2010, 02:22 PM) *
UK tabloid Daily Mirror is reporting that AC Milan could sign Mexican attacking midfielder Giovani Dos Santos in exchange for striker Klaas-Jan Huntelaar
Link


I've seen him playing in Barca, and I must say that he is very talented guy, but he has some problems with discipline and alcohol.... I'd like to see him in Milan anyway.
m1ke
Agree - I like Dos Santos. I think he'd be a very good option for the wide positions if we're going to go 4-3-3.
mishie
I still think there is a role for Huntelaar even as back up to Boriello I'd give him till January before ditching him of course he needs some game time to. As for Dos Santos I've seen him and not all that impressed but he's young so time to improve for sure
Boban10
Thiago silva.
QUOTE
The only thing I know is that I'm focused only and always on Milan and want to stay here until at least 2014, which is the current expiry date of my contract. I am here at Milan and I feel really at home, as if Milan was really my family, my second family. I am fine here."


http://www.acmilan.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=125953

Put a smile on my face. smile.gif
samira
QUOTE (Coldest @ Aug 3 2010, 02:32 PM) *
I've seen him playing in Barca, and I must say that he is very talented guy, but he has some problems with discipline and alcohol.... I'd like to see him in Milan anyway.


I don't know why Barcelona let him go !?
But he is good, but he plays better with Mexico then with teams
d'Arc.LP
Hernanes to Lazio: 'It's done!
QUOTE
“Everything should be resolved within the day” for Lazio’s Hernanes transfer, announced San Paolo Vice-President Carlos Augusto de Barros e Silva.


source : link
Tennie
Dos Santos seems to have a bit of a problem personality from what I've gathered. I'd pass.
MizNelson
QUOTE
UK tabloid Daily Mirror is reporting that AC Milan could sign Mexican attacking midfielder Giovani Dos Santos in exchange for striker Klaas-Jan Huntelaar
Link


Portsmouth have lowered their asking price for Prince Boateng, they won't ask for more than €7.2m for the Ghana international midfielder. Lazio is close to signing him. I would love to see him in a Milan jersey
Link

AC Milan have joined Inter Milan and Genoa in the pursuit of Brazilian right-back Ilsinho, who was recently released from Shakhtar Donetsk.
Link

#1 and #3 are not reliable sources, and we're not linked with #2 in any way.
Coldest
QUOTE (samira @ Aug 3 2010, 05:19 PM) *
I don't know why Barcelona let him go !?
But he is good, but he plays better with Mexico then with teams


Because of his attitude. He wanted to get a lot of playing time, and Barca was unable to offer it. By the way, it seemed, he imagined himself as a very good player. I mean, he was immature at that time and the question is, is he now ?
Tennie
He threatened to not play for the NT because his brother wasn't called up. That's not exactly the height of maturity.
nuh
QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 3 2010, 06:49 PM) *
He threatened to not play for the NT because his brother wasn't called up. That's not exactly the height of maturity.

haha at least he's loyal to his bro tongue.gif
nuh
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Aug 3 2010, 05:46 PM) *
#1 and #3 are not reliable sources, and we're not linked with #2 in any way.

ummm yeah we are actually
here
Tennie
nuh, that site you linked to is a fan blog from Australia. And it doesn't cite news sources.

EDIT: But milannews seems to think we might (and they use the conditional so it's iffy even to them) be looking at him.

link
Bluesummers
A big no no for me for dos santos. Don't need trouble makers.



Our Squad is fine as it is.


Promote merkel and be done with it.

GK:

Abbiati
Amelia
Roma


DEF:

Kaladze
Janku
oddo
antonini
papa
nesta
silva
onyewu
Bonera
Albertazzi
Zambrotta
Yepes


mid:

gattuso
seedorf
pirlo
ambrosini
flamini
strasser
merkel


fw:

ronaldinho
inzaghi
huntelaar
borriello
pato
Adiyiah
Oudamadi
Verdi


alskor
Dos Santos is talented, but a head case. He's also a very flawed player. Roams like crazy and won't take coaching. Anyone watch El Tri in the World Cup? All over the place blowing up the game plan. He's all the worst parts of how Dinho plays without most of the positives. BIG pass on this guy.

I would be kind of excited if we got him, in all fairness (he's very talented and its not out of the question he matures and puts it all together)... but really scared.
Linkman
With Merkel and Strasser showing to be pretty decent, I think if we were to make on last signing it should be either a full back...

...or a replacement for Bori.
CHU-LIP
Pato as replacement for Borriello... and sign a right winger... please?
Bluesummers
guys please look at the list above and look at how many players we have.



8 strikers, 3 positions.


7 midfielders, 3 positions.

12 defenders, 4 positions.

3 goal keepers, 1 position.


We have 30 players total. That means 12 cannot even sit on the bench. Why do we need more players?





Warchant
talent?
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Warchant @ Aug 3 2010, 06:39 PM) *
talent?



with this current squad, gooch wouldn't even make the bench. There's def some talent there.
CHU-LIP
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 4 2010, 01:48 AM) *
with this current squad, gooch wouldn't even make the bench. There's def some talent there.

duh, Gooch sucks

Thiago Silva, Nesta, Papastathopoulos, Yepes, Albertazzi and Bonera have I got more faith from more than Onweyu. So unless 4 of these defenders cannot play, I don't see the need for Onweyu being on the bench.

QUOTE
We have 30 players total. That means 12 cannot even sit on the bench. Why do we need more players?

Because many of them are bad, some are worse than our Primavera players.

Oddo, Kaladze, Inzaghi, Gattuso, Jankulovski, Onweyu and probably Adiyiah also are seriously useless. 5+ players were Primavera players last season and even though they add more than the players in my previous sentence, it is an easy way to make the squad look big.
Warchant
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 3 2010, 07:48 PM) *
with this current squad, gooch wouldn't even make the bench. There's def some talent there.


never said he would

but we have 1 semi world class striker and most of our midfielders should be retiring in the MLS. and those guys are earning a paycheck...gooch is playing for free
CHU-LIP
QUOTE (Warchant @ Aug 4 2010, 01:56 AM) *
never said he would

but we have 1 semi world class striker and most of our midfielders should be retiring in the MLS. and those guys are earning a paycheck...gooch is playing for free

About the latter, I remember he extend his contract with 1 year and THAT extra year he plays for free which is not this season. So this season he doesn't play for free, or is he?
han2503
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 4 2010, 01:19 AM) *
guys please look at the list above and look at how many players we have.



8 strikers, 3 positions.


7 midfielders, 3 positions.

12 defenders, 4 positions.

3 goal keepers, 1 position.


We have 30 players total. That means 12 cannot even sit on the bench. Why do we need more players?

You're counting the kids, when in reality they'll be lucky to get anywhere near the bench in Serie A/CL games
red
Dos Santos was one of the best youngsters in the WC. Even though he needs some maturity, I'd like to see him at Milan. He has good pace, trickery and a great shot. His passing did not exactly set the world on fire.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 4 2010, 02:19 AM) *
We have 30 players total. That means 12 cannot even sit on the bench. Why do we need more players?


Because 1/3 of our squad sucks? Jeez, what a question...
d'Arc.LP
Edin Dzeko for Sportitalia : Milan and Juventus, a dream that I will see very fast - link

Milan and Genoa are after Kevin-Prince Boateng. The value of the player is 7 mil. - link
armiss
Who knows more about Dzeko position ?
d'Arc.LP
This is all he said :

QUOTE
“I like Italian football, but at the moment I am a Wolfsburg player,” he said.

“In the next few days you’ll know a lot more about my future. I am a Wolfsburg player and my agent worries about the rest.”

When asked about interest from Milan and Juventus, Dzeko said: “There have been inquiries, but nothing concrete that I know of.

“They are two prestigious teams from a European point of view. It’s an honour to be associated with them, but Wolfsburg also have big plans for the future.”
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