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han2503
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Aug 31 2010, 10:05 PM) *
Well to be quite honest it didn't require an answer as I believe it was a rhetorical question.

So I guess it was more of a statement. wink.gif

Still there was no need to mention it imo wink.gif
agenth
aren't the Italian votes taking place soon?

Maybe that's the reason...
Dracoris
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 31 2010, 05:02 PM) *
Ronaldinho was also a success, and those are the only 3 we have signed, so far it's a home run of successes with Brazilians

Also Dinho is no egomaniac, Robinho on the other hand is a different story... But I'm hoping that the environment they're in will keep their egos in check.


Dude!!! That is something you don't ever ask!!!!


Give it up man, I've been here a year or so now and I have never seen a positive comment from Miz. She keeps us in check smile.gif
Tennie
It's not an appropriate comment to ask or to joke about, full stop.


Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Panama Devil @ Sep 1 2010, 12:05 AM) *
This sudden change of mentality from Berlusconi is weird.

I think he knows something we don´t and this unexpected shopping spree confirms it. As a matter of fact, I believe there will be more signings in January.

The team will change even more and I´m sure Galliani is already working on it.

Something will change in the football world and our directives know about it.

Still... this is good for us... change is goooooooood!!!


You got a new keyboard ?
agenth
QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 31 2010, 11:24 PM) *
It's not an appropriate comment to ask or to joke about, full stop.



yeah. If you had PMS (stomacheache, headache, sickness or whatever)
in a real bad shape, every month a couple of days,

you would be in a foul mood as well (or even worse)

innocent.gif
X-Offender
Good job Blue. That's how you built a competitive team without spending crazy money.
Jack Bauer
BTW you forgot about Dominic Adiyiah.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Aug 31 2010, 05:37 PM) *
BTW you forgot about Dominic Adiyiah.


thanks, fixed
Bluesummers
LOL! My post gets deleted laugh.gif


can I ask what the problem with it was?
RinoIlCapitano
Wow you are so pessimistic , you are really killing the joy of that, milan returned to the mercato and we are becoming again a competitive squad even in CL so cmon, Robinho and Zlatan are awesome players which will help us win something i hope biggrin.gif (i know biggrin.gif)...
X-Offender
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Sep 1 2010, 12:51 AM) *
LOL! My post gets deleted laugh.gif


can I ask what the problem with it was?


Crap, that sucks. Do you still have all the info or did you lose it along with the post?
Dracoris
Dang I missed it. Now I want to see the mystery post.
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (Dracoris @ Aug 31 2010, 09:01 PM) *
Dang I missed it. Now I want to see the mystery post.

laugh.gif
jbryant1
2 long years and we finally get a couple top players. Ibra, robinho, pirlo, pato, boateng, and dinho, what a great combination of players. The only way we could have done better is to have spent Man City prices for Fabregas or Messi or somebody like that and that's just stupid and not going to happen. The fact that Milan were smart about it makes it that much better.

Borriello is a good player but maybe not good enough for Milan. Roma will be the test for him.

After watching Benitez inter flop against bologna this might be our season to turn things around.

elcordobez
i'm still not over the Ibra transfer

James Milner ----> Man City 30mill euro
Joleon Lescott ----> Man City 24mill euro

Ibrahimovic ------> Milan 24mill euro

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MizNelson
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 31 2010, 01:52 PM) *
MizNelson, are you having your period or something?

Just finished it a week ago, actually. Thank you for asking. smile.gif

Anyway, forgive me for not automatically orgasming over every "big" name we sign, because most of them over the past few years ultimately wound up being wastes of space.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (elcordobez @ Sep 1 2010, 04:55 AM) *
i'm still not over the Ibra transfer

James Milner ----> Man City 30mill euro
Joleon Lescott ----> Man City 24mill euro

Ibrahimovic ------> Milan 24mill euro

laugh.gif

..not getting drawn into this..
anano1214
SHIRT NUMBERS: IBRA TAKES 11, ROBINHO CHOOSES 70
8/31/2010
MILAN - As for the shirt numbers of the two new Rossoneri stars, Zlatan Ibrahimovic took number 11, while Robinho will wear number 70 this season.

acmilan.com
Milan Are Brilliant
QUOTE (elcordobez @ Sep 1 2010, 04:55 AM) *
i'm still not over the Ibra transfer

James Milner ----> Man City 30mill euro
Joleon Lescott ----> Man City 24mill euro

Ibrahimovic ------> Milan 24mill euro

laugh.gif

To be fair those 2 are nothing to Balotelli, a kid who has achieved next to nothing but shown his arrogance and they bought him for how much?!?! Already he's managed to crash his car over here probably being a idiot behind the wheel no doubt.

I'll be surprised if he does well over here, I doubt he will be able to hack it.
MilanManiac9
QUOTE (jbryant1 @ Aug 31 2010, 09:31 PM) *
After watching Benitez inter flop against bologna this might be our season to turn things around.

+1 Been saying it all along. Finally, somebody agrees.

Rafa will bring Inter crashing down with him, just like he did with Liverpool.
acid911
QUOTE (pacang @ Sep 1 2010, 12:11 AM) *
so many people waiting for fifa11.. nobody expecting PES?

As much as it pains me to say this, the new versions of PES are lagging behind EA's FIFA for quite some time. sad.gif The last time they had the upper hand was in games that came out in 2006. After that they've continuously been playing catch up.

QUOTE (Caraliciously @ Sep 1 2010, 12:28 AM) *
Gonna be one hell of a future... Just give it some time to gel and lets hope Robinho gets his act together!

This. If everyone plays to their potential, we should end up pretty well. cool.gif And great avatar by the way!

QUOTE (vnata001 @ Sep 1 2010, 01:03 AM) *
*PS - hey acid, good to see you around!

Charmed, vn king.gif Thanks! Always a pleasure reading your detailed and true to the core thoughts. Heck, I'm pretty much a fan, and have saved quite a few our your posts - nothing better reading them along with a hot cup of coffee. And its no surprise, I agree with most everything, as what you write is very logical. Keep posting, and see ya around!

QUOTE (Dracoris @ Sep 1 2010, 06:01 AM) *
Dang I missed it. Now I want to see the mystery post.

It probably was Blue's financial summary of our transfer ins and outs. innocent.gif I seem to have missed it too!
Dracoris
I guess he didn't source it. Which is silly to me, I would have preferred to see it regardless. I'm not a child, I understand its his own personal thoughts and ideas. Oh well sad.gif

Acid I'm with ya on the Fifa deal. Ever since the jump was made to the "NextGen" EA has crushed Konami in the video game market. I don't actually have a PS3 with me atm since I'm away at college so its killing me knowing I won't get to play it the day it comes out.

I wonder if Milan will make it in the demo...that would be sweet!
acid911
QUOTE (Dracoris @ Sep 1 2010, 08:49 PM) *
I guess he didn't source it. Which is silly to me, I would have preferred to see it regardless. I'm not a child, I understand its his own personal thoughts and ideas. Oh well

Quite possible. smile.gif That's the Bluey we know and love, after all.

QUOTE (Dracoris @ Sep 1 2010, 08:49 PM) *
Acid I'm with ya on the Fifa deal. Ever since the jump was made to the "NextGen" EA has crushed Konami in the video game market. I don't actually have a PS3 with me atm since I'm away at college so its killing me knowing I won't get to play it the day it comes out.

Exactly. Five years ago, in 2006, the FIFA series had gloss and official licenses, and the Winning Eleven/PES had gameplay, polish, and insane amount of details. Player attributes, weaknesses, and what not. It all changed after the move to next gen, and well even though Konami tried hitting back with innovations last year, they still had it tough. unsure.gif And this year it looks to be the same continuation - EA's got a bunch of new tricks and improvements in FIFA 11. Really looking forward to it, to see the new and improved Milan after our summer transfers.

QUOTE (Dracoris @ Sep 1 2010, 08:49 PM) *
I wonder if Milan will make it in the demo...that would be sweet!

I hope they would. There was a time when AC Milan was featured a lot in the demos. The first one I remember playing was FIFA 99 (which had Juve and ManU), and then another demo I played was FIFA 06 (one of my favorite football games), and it had Milan with Maldini, Sheva and Kaka in all their glory. devil.gif Milan was featured in other demos over the year, I am sure. I actually played almost all FIFA games since 99, but just a couple of demos. Let's see what happens now.

PS. On a personal note FIFA 2006 was my absolute favorite, the environment, player ratings, and overall look was absolutely great. Even though it was not next gen. laugh.gif I still adore that game!
Milan Are Brilliant
Yep Fifa is better at the moment, though the game is far from perfect, anyone try to play manager mode last year on it without bugs?! The addition of things like Personality+ (which is basically the same stat concept of years and years) and make your own celebration. Finesse shots dumb the game down so much, though at least in the WC game they didn't make them so easy. In terms of EA Sports games when you play this and go and play a game like Madden or, especially the NHL series of recent years they are in another league.

I can probably count the amount of games I played Milan online on one hand in Fifa 10. Get the feeling in Fifa 11 they will be used as much as Inter, Barca, United etc.

Playing Fifa I don't get the same sense of satisfaction or enjoyment as with PES when it was on top especially with it's Master League - last minute winners etc. Also, playing it with mates was a lot more enjoyable and skillful compared to Fifa's get a fast player, through ball to fast player one-one with keeper, finesse shot into the bottom right hand corner *yawn*. I think in a few years time Pro Evo will be back on top.
Coldest
It's very interesting topic to talk about... Personally, I've been PES fan for a couple of years till I got my Xbox which provides me an chance to play next-gen FIFA. I must say, FIFA has been pretty impressive recently, but talking about PC it's a different story. However, the coming year might be like a revolution.... One guy who've played PES beta, summed up his opinion:


Day 1: Hmmmm
Day 2: Hmmmmmmm
Day 3: Hmm...Ahhh...Ohhh
Day 4: Oh. My. God. PES is back!!!

So, I think, PES may not overplay FIFA 11, but it should become competitive at least, once more... wink.gif If you wanna read full review, just tell me.

han2503
QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Sep 1 2010, 04:38 PM) *
Yep Fifa is better at the moment, though the game is far from perfect, anyone try to play manager mode last year on it without bugs?! The addition of things like Personality+ (which is basically the same stat concept of years and years) and make your own celebration. Finesse shots dumb the game down so much, though at least in the WC game they didn't make them so easy. In terms of EA Sports games when you play this and go and play a game like Madden or, especially the NHL series of recent years they are in another league.

I can probably count the amount of games I played Milan online on one hand in Fifa 10. Get the feeling in Fifa 11 they will be used as much as Inter, Barca, United etc.

Playing Fifa I don't get the same sense of satisfaction or enjoyment as with PES when it was on top especially with it's Master League - last minute winners etc. Also, playing it with mates was a lot more enjoyable and skillful compared to Fifa's get a fast player, through ball to fast player one-one with keeper, finesse shot into the bottom right hand corner *yawn*. I think in a few years time Pro Evo will be back on top.

Well I'm a Manager Mode fan and considering I paid over €60 to buy the game, I was p!ssed off about it and the major issues and bugs it had. Especially compared to the other EA sports games like you mentioned.

However the licencing, graphics, gameplay, etc, all put PES to shame. I was never really a PES fan but a few years back I could appreciate the technical aspect of the game, which it won hands down, but now Fifa have caught up on that as well.
X-Offender
Nice sig, han. biggrin.gif
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 1 2010, 06:19 PM) *
Nice sig, han. biggrin.gif

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Jack Sparrow
C'mon...you like it. Don't say you don't!! laugh.gif
Milan Are Brilliant
QUOTE (Coldest @ Sep 1 2010, 06:55 PM) *
So, I think, PES may not overplay FIFA 11, but it should become competitive at least, once more... wink.gif If you wanna read full review, just tell me.

Yeah, I've heard quite a bit similar to this. It seems Konami may have pulled their finger out this year, and although I'm 99.9% sure it won't be better than Fifa in terms of gameplay I think it could be the beginning of the series coming back to it's peak again.

QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 1 2010, 07:10 PM) *
Well I'm a Manager Mode fan and considering I paid over €60 to buy the game, I was p!ssed off about it and the major issues and bugs it had. Especially compared to the other EA sports games like you mentioned.

However the licencing, graphics, gameplay, etc, all put PES to shame. I was never really a PES fan but a few years back I could appreciate the technical aspect of the game, which it won hands down, but now Fifa have caught up on that as well.

Manager mode is the only reason I'd play this game offline. I don't mind playing online clubs from time-time (though that's pointless now) but playing be a pro by myself offline seems ridiculously boring as all you seem to do is watch the AI pass aimlessly and do completely stupid stuff time and time again. I expect bugs from games and glitches I mean I've grown up with games that had those issues so that doesn't bother me. However, when the glitch was the game freezing after completing a game every single time in manager mode it was more than a petty annoyance, it was useless.

I still think PES faces look far better than Fifa to be honest. Licensing never bothered me when Pro Evo was the king of footie games. EA haven't really done much with their sports franchises this year, if you look at Tiger Woods, Madden, NHL etc none of them have changed dramatically since last year, and it looks like this will be the same with Fifa. Plus EA will soon annoy people with the you only play online if you buy the game new thing otherwise pay to play it online, oh and also pay your live subscription fee!
Fillipo Simone
When did this turn into a FIFA vs. PES history topic?
Habitant
the moment the summer transfer ended loll
TriniKing_CE
AC's Aces!!!

amancik
Ibro Patonaldinho
acid911
Not to sound greedy or anything, but maybe we should have tried signing up VDV for our mid. unsure.gif Spurs got an epic deal at 8m, and I think he would have adjusted well in between Pirlo and Seedorf. But maybe the club has bigger plans for the next couple of seasons, who know?!
pacang
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Sep 2 2010, 08:46 AM) *
AC's Aces!!!



nice.. from the email eh? u placed ur order already?
MizNelson
QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 2 2010, 04:21 AM) *
Not to sound greedy or anything, but maybe we should have tried signing up VDV for our mid. unsure.gif Spurs got an epic deal at 8m, and I think he would have adjusted well in between Pirlo and Seedorf.

I wouldn't have minded that.
acid911
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Sep 2 2010, 09:00 PM) *
I wouldn't have minded that.

Yeah, having 4 dynamite forwards is all warm and fuzzy, but another guy in the creative engine room would have just given us the right balance. smile.gif Heck, I'd even have traded him for KPB (even though I think he's pretty good as it is). Rafael van der Vaart is just that added insurance, and truly an awesome buy at that price.

Oh well, can't have everything. Let's go all guns blazing with what we have!
han2503
QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 2 2010, 04:15 PM) *
Yeah, having 4 dynamite forwards is all warm and fuzzy, but another guy in the creative engine room would have just given us the right balance. smile.gif Heck, I'd even have traded him for KPB (even though I think he's pretty good as it is). Rafael van der Vaart is just that added insurance, and truly an awesome buy at that price.

Oh well, can't have everything. Let's go all guns blazing with what we have!

Boateng gives us more balance to the team, since he provides power, pace and more defensive assurance in midfield. VDV would have been great, but not at the expense of KPB.
acid911
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 2 2010, 09:28 PM) *
Boateng gives us more balance to the team, since he provides power, pace and more defensive assurance in midfield. VDV would have been great, but not at the expense of KPB.

Yeah, I guess, that being the key phrase. unsure.gif Anyway, I'm not complaining, not one bit. You can't have everything of course, I'd have added in VDV, Dzeko, and G. Rossi along with Krašić. But what we have is A-okay.
han2503
QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 2 2010, 04:46 PM) *
Yeah, I guess, that being the key phrase. unsure.gif Anyway, I'm not complaining, not one bit. You can't have everything of course, I'd have added in VDV, Dzeko, and G. Rossi along with Krašić. But what we have is A-okay.

If I wanted to have everything, the only other 2 things I would have asked for would have been a top class RB and another mid, preferably a Pirlo alternative
Dracoris
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 2 2010, 01:23 PM) *
If I wanted to have everything, the only other 2 things I would have asked for would have been a top class RB and another mid, preferably a Pirlo alternative


Poli here. VDV and Ibra would've clashed big time, and if Berlu is choosing who we get, it would be Ibra over VDV.
vnata001
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 2 2010, 09:28 AM) *
Boateng gives us more balance to the team, since he provides power, pace and more defensive assurance in midfield. VDV would have been great, but not at the expense of KPB.


willing to give KPB a chance after all, huh? wink.gif

I will stake my word on this: Kevin-Prince Boateng is good enough. The dude is a physical specimen. He's good ball winner, strong when carrying the ball (like Zee with more pace), creative in the pass, decent control, strong shot, good in the air. Upside his huge. Maturity is the issue.

KPB's weakness is his love of being overly cute. His backheels and flicks (which he did SEVERAL times last match) were tolerable when we were up 3-0 to lecce, but he was doing them in our OWN HALF. Continuing to play with that naivety when in our own half, when your being deployed as a box-box mid, is just reckless. Seedorf is full of fancy feet in the attacking 3rd, but NEVER messes around in our half. With a little maturity though, Boateng seems to have the perfect mix of attributes to be a class act Box-to-Box.

With him and Flamini on the team, i don't know that we need another midfielder.
X-Offender
I think we should have signed Rafinha for the fullback position. Genoa got him for only 8 million.
alskor
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 2 2010, 02:36 PM) *
I think we should have signed Rafinha for the fullback position. Genoa got him for only 8 million.

Man, 100% agree on that.

Re: VDV - Pirlo is the regista. How many attacking players do we need? The biggest criticism of this squad right now is the lack of guys who track back... I'm not sure how much we could play VDV or how much he would even help. We have plenty of depth ion midfield if not too much quality. Honestly, when and where could we play him? You can't pay that kind of price for him to backup Pirlo and you certainly can't play him next to Pirlo. So you play him instead of Ronnie? We already have a pretty decent option there in Seedorf, and Flamini and Gattuso need playing time too.

If I could have changed anything in the midfield I might have switched out Rino for a young defensive holding mid. Another KPB style player, though one who was cheaper and doesn't rate as high. I think we're going to see a lot of hour mark/late game subs where one of the four top attackers (Ibra/Ronnie/Robbie/Pato) comes out for KPB to sit on a lead. It would be nice to have a little more depth in that area.



So, in conclusion, while I do appreciate van der Vaart's game, I can't see a fit for him on this team. He's basically a really expensive slight upgrade to an are where we have good depth. While I guess you can play VDV on the left wing some, too... the bottom line is his best positions are already taken by superior options. Hard to see him as the kind of need that would justify that price.
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 1 2010, 02:19 PM) *
Nice sig, han. biggrin.gif

+1 devilsmiley.gif ...Welcome to the dark side! laugh.gif
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 2 2010, 02:36 PM) *
I think we should have signed Rafinha for the fullback position. Genoa got him for only 8 million.

Agreed...

Or we could have at least tried to bullying them into one more transfer. laugh.gif
han2503
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Sep 2 2010, 07:01 PM) *
+1 devilsmiley.gif ...Welcome to the dark side! laugh.gif

dry.gif

Wouldn't Rafinha have taken the other non EU spot? Thus Robinho being impossible to sign? Or does Robinho have a Spanish passport? unsure.gif

Rafinha is a great attacking FB but his defensive qualities imo are so and so, Genoa will be good for him in learning how a Serie A FB has to play. I wouldn't be so surprised if we go for him in the future
acid911
Well I don't know, with the bucket load of youth players we have signed this year, I've got a feeling the board will be looking to promote a whole lot of them into the first XI in the coming seasons. cool.gif Not only because of UEFA rules, but gaps in the team will emerge once guys like Pirlo, Seedorf, Gattuso, Ambrosini etc start retiring one by one.

I see new-found interest in young players from B&G, and if we can unearth a few gems, I'm all for it.
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