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Bluesummers
Lets not deny that most of pippo's goals came from Kaka's assists which were all almost silver platter chances. Its pretty hard to miss in the six yard box on a tap in.

No kaka this season, pippo doesn't do s***
Bluesummers
News:

According to sources in Brazil, we have signed a brazillian CB named Rafael Toloi (19 yrs) for 9m euros. They claim he's the best CB to come out south america in quite some time. We beat the usual hosts (barca/madrid etc etc) to his signing. There are some reports saying that Serginho had been watching him since January and had recommended us to pick him up this summer. - esporteinterativo

Bayern have bid 10m and gomez for Deko- Goal.com

Guti: "I like italy" -milannews


Carlo has said Pato is impossible to sign and he's not going to bid for him. Goal.com

Dzeko's agent says that there a bunch of different interests in Dzeko but no club has sent a concrete offer for dzeko. He says his transfer will be done between may 22-31. - milannews


and heres a blast from the past, said in the january transfer window. I wonder if this will be true as this guy is usually spot on regarding his comments on market:

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rrive in June, says agent and Italian transfer market expert Jose Alberti.

Alberti, who does not represent the Bosnian, claims Milan agreed a deal with Wolfsburg and the player during the January transfer window, and an official deal will be announced at the end of term.

"Milan have already signed Dzeko for June and he will arrive after the World Cup," Alberti told Calciomercatonews.com.

"The deal was closed in January during an important dinner meeting between Adriano Galliani, Dzeko and the player's father who works on his behalf.

"I can say that Dzeko is 100 per cent a Milan player. All that is missing is a signature on the contract and an official announcement."

Despite Alberti's statements, neither Milan, Wolfsburg, Dzeko nor his father have confirmed the deal.
Jack Sparrow
It just struck me..that hyping a player up..saying the transfer is not done yet..and making him 'hotter' property would increase media attention..therefore sponsor's attention. And then when you finally land the player, he's the hottest thing since sliced bread and the sponsors come ringing.
Bluesummers
yup, true that. I don't know if we'll get dzeko though. I've been reading around and it looks like that we really have signed this brazillian kid. Braida is going there after the season's over to finalize the negotation but serginho has pretty much completed most of it. The only part I find hard to believe is the 9m. Its probably alot less than that.
Jack Sparrow
It might be 9 million including bonuses etc.

What I don't get is how every kid is the best <position> to come out of South America. If this kid is the best CB to come out then what's Thiago? His wiki stats seem to indicate he's a goal scoring defender though. Interesting.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ May 12 2010, 03:49 AM) *
It might be 9 million including bonuses etc.

What I don't get is how every kid is the best <position> to come out of South America. If this kid is the best CB to come out then what's Thiago? His wiki stats seem to indicate he's a goal scoring defender though. Interesting.


I think they imply for his age jack. The best defenders from brazil right now are undoubtedly Lucio and Silva.

But whats really interesting is this:

next year:

Koldrup
yepes
toloi
darmian
albertazzi
pasini

all CB LOL, all new players LOL


I'm guessing this is whats going to happen:

kaladze
favalli

are peacing out.
Bluesummers
But jack what really is surprising is the nature of these signings. It seems alot of people around Italy think Berlu is going all out this summer for one last time. Not ridiculous spending but enough to secure us for the next 5 years. Most of the signings will be really good youth with maybe a big signing like dzeko or krasic etc..


I'm going to be crazy and say berlu is going to spend 60 M from his own pocket this summer.
Jack Sparrow
Hmm. Favalli was obviously expected to retire. I think he was initially given the extension solely to function as a training ground partner..help the youngsters out etc. But then our injuries meant, he was pretty much first team XI.

I reckon he'll take a backend job..though he might go to Lazio even. I have a hunch Favster will make an excellent coach.
Jack Sparrow
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ May 12 2010, 03:28 PM) *
But jack what really is surprising is the nature of these signings. It seems alot of people around Italy think Berlu is going all out this summer for the last time. Not ridiculous spending but enough to secure us for the next 5 years. Most of the signings will be really good youth with maybe dzeko or krasic.

I'm going to be crazy and say berlu is going to spend 60 M from his own pocket this summer.


I don't want to guess at the figures...but it's my guess...that what we're doing is 'jumpstarting' our youth system. We've neglected it for some time now, so to start from the grassroots is to start from way behind. However buying 60% completed players, and converting our academy to a European league finishing school is a much better business proposition.

I think in the long run,we make less wrong choices as well. We're buying the elite..but they're elite youth. The question is how we can reconcile youth with experienced 'winning' players with the right mentality. I mean, I have no doubt that a youngster would learn tons with Nesta or Pippo or R80 even. But would I want a youngster apprenticed under Zlatan. Not sure.
Tennie
Tuttomercatoweb reports that Milan may be buying back Ardemagni (striker who is former primavera and who's now co-owned between Cittadella and Triestina), if only to be used as a technical counterpart in summer transfer moves. (link)

Tuttomercatoweb quotes Tuttosport as saying Milan is after Corinthians midfielder Jucilei. (link)

Tuttomercatoweb quotes a Gazzetta article (not in online edition, only print edition) noting that the following players have contracts that expire at the end of June: Abbiati, Jankulovski, Nesta, Oddo, Zambrotta, Ambrosini, Pirlo, Seedorf e Ronaldinho (but incorrect, as Ronaldinho's ends 2011). According to the article, Dida and Favalli won't renew, Pippo's waiting for Leonardo to leave before renewing for a year. Kaladze is of interest to Napoli and Parma and Flamini is of interest to English clubs while Huntelaar will probably be sacrificed to keep Pato. (link)

Tuttomercatoweb also reports that Milan are seriously interested in Velez defender Otamendi. The only stumbling block is his estimated 12 million cost. (link)



Bluesummers
QUOTE (Tennie @ May 12 2010, 04:58 AM) *
Tuttomercatoweb reports that Milan may be buying back Ardemagni (striker who is former primavera and who's now co-owned between Cittadella and Triestina), if only to be used as a technical counterpart in summer transfer moves. (link)

Tuttomercatoweb quotes Tuttosport as saying Milan is after Corinthians midfielder Jucilei. (link)

Tuttomercatoweb quotes a Gazzetta article (not in online edition, only print edition) noting that the following players have contracts that expire at the end of June: Abbiati, Jankulovski, Nesta, Oddo, Zambrotta, Ambrosini, Pirlo, Seedorf e Ronaldinho (but incorrect, as Ronaldinho's ends 2011). According to the article, Dida and Favalli won't renew, Pippo's waiting for Leonardo to leave before renewing for a year. Kaladze is of interest to Napoli and Parma and Flamini is of interest to English clubs while Huntelaar will probably be sacrificed to keep Pato. (link)

Tuttomercatoweb also reports that Milan are seriously interested in Velez defender Otamendi. The only stumbling block is his estimated 12 million cost. (link)

The contract info is incorrect.

There is only three players that have their contracts that expire in June, Inzaghi/Dida/Favalli. The rest are expiring in 2011.
Fishdoll
Yep, Gazzetta got that contract bit wrong.

So, anyway, Sky Italia has an interview with Fester. (link)

He notes that Allegri is technically a milanista, having played for Milan in a summer tournament in 94, states that Pato is not sellable, that Ronaldinho has another year on his contract, and notes that his meeting with Roberto de Assis was about other players, not Ronaldinho.
il_diavolo_mtl
The toloi thing looks legit and i must say i'm impressed he is arguably the best 19yo CB in the world right now in the same boat as:

Jack Rodwell, British, Everton -> it has yet to be seen if he will be a DM or a CB at this point
Toloi, samba-boy, AC MILAN (though he will get loaned to a team like lecce/brescia...) -> think of a younger Lucio that hasn't yet fully grown in width
Sebastian coatesuruguayan, raw talent from National that has been linked to palermo this season, who is keen on farming Uruguayan talents
Mario fernandes samba boy, plays for gremio and has been linked to go to la liga a while ago, not sure what happened there.

these facts may be wrong because i'm going by memory here, so don't crucify me if i'm wrong... :S
il_diavolo_mtl
Goal.com seems to think we will be quite the team in a few years, tell me if you recognize any of these players tongue.gif

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FIFA Under-20 Team Of The Tournament
There have been plenty of young and promising players on show at the FIFA Under-20 World Championships held in Egypt. Goal.com offer their team of the tournament...


Esteban Alvarado – Costa Rica

There haven’t been too many stand-out performers at the tournament between the sticks, but one who has made a good impact is Costa Rican custodian Esteban Alvarado. The Saprissa-based 'keeper is a notable exception, showing himself to be a strong and commanding. In addition, he pulled off a number of fine saves, most notably against Brazil in the semi-final. Alvarado deserves credit for playing his part in helping Costa Rica bounce back from the mauling in the first group match against the young Selecao, when they went down to a 5-0 defeat.

Defenders

Samuel Inkoom – Ghana

The attacking right-back probably spent more time in the opposition half than his own, and looked equally comfortable on the right-wing as in defence. Inkoom is the embodiment of the modern full-back; aware of the defensive demands placed on him, but also more than happy to raid forward and get crosses in. On the books of Swiss side Basel, Barcelona have already added him to their scouting notes if rumours are to be believed, and during this tournament he certainly looked a player capable of replacing Dani Alves on day.


Michelangelo Albertazzi – Italy

Yet to really make the break-through with his club side Milan, Albertazzi, 18, showed that he has the potential to become another great Italian centre-back. Italy struggled to put a side together, with many of the team who got to the final of the UEFA Under-19 Championships in 2008 not made available by their various club sides. That gave many lesser known Italian youngsters the opportunity to shine, and Albertazzi was one of many to take his chance with both hands.

Rafael Toloi – Brazil

The Goias defender, 18, looks like an excellent prospect at the heart of the Brazilian back line - good in the air and strong in the tackle. Like many Brazilian sides playing the traditional 4-2-2-2 formation preferred by the Selecao, the centre-backs can at times become stretched. With so little cover available in front of Toloi, positional awareness is an absolute essential for any centre-back who wishes to flourish in such a system. Rafael Toloi certainly looks to have this, despite his tender years, and may well become something of a household name over the course of the next few seasons.

Kim Min-Woo – Korea Republic

The Korean Republic have produced several exciting attacking full-backs such as Lee Young-Pyo, and Min-Woo looks to be another in the same mould. The attacking left-back grew into the tournament, delivering his strongest performance in the quarter-final against Ghana, ultimately his final game. Whilst collectively the Koreans may have conceded three, Min-Woo caught the eye with a strong performance, getting forward down the flank and forcing Samuel Inkoom into some tricky positions. Still based with his collegiate side in Korea, Yonsei University, Min-Woo will be available to sign a professional contract in the near future.

Midfielders

Alex Teixeira – Brazil

Despite his diminutive stature, Teixeira certainly showed that he has all the skills needed to flourish in a creative midfield position or in the hole behind a striker. Under contract to Vasco da Gama, he has already forced his way into the first team reckoning at the Sao Januario, and his performances are thought to have attracted the interest of both Everton and Manchester United. His best game came against Uruguay in the round of 16, where for 30 minutes Brazil played some outstanding football, racing into a 3—0 lead. Teixeira scored two in seven minutes in that game, giving a glimpse of his immense potential, which will no doubt leave many European clubs salivating at the prospect of adding him to their squad.

Vladimir Koman – Hungary

Already on the books at Sampdoria, whose youth side he led to national glory in Italy last season, Koman continued to add to his glowing reputation with some fine performances in central midfield as Hungary surprised by finishing as the best placed European team. A controlled passer of the ball with excellent vision, Koman also adds work-rate and positioning to his game. The 20-year old looks to be a marvellous prospect. It would be no surprise to see Koman called into the full national side for Hungary as they look to build on their recent promising World Cup campaign.

Andre Ayew – Ghana

It’s never easy being the son of a legend, but as the son of Abedi Pele, Ayew has a massive amount to live up to. Having made some fleeting appearances for Marseille last season under Erik Gerets, plenty of pundits tipped Ayew to shine in Egypt, and he didn’t disappoint. Able to play through the middle or from a wider position on the left, Ayew has a wonderful left foot and blistering acceleration, making him the ideal candidate to fulfil either position.

Attackers

Richard Sukuta-Pasu – Germany

It’s hard to find much fault with Sukuta-Pasu’s overall game. Lightening quick and agile in possession, the Bayer Leverkusen forward is also deadly accurate in front of goal. Having served notice of his potential last summer in the 2008 European U-19 tournament, helping Germany to glory then, the forward with Congolese heritage added to his burgeoning reputation in Egypt. He’s already had a couple of substitute appearances for his club side at the BayArena, and certainly on the evidence of the tournament deserves more chances to shine.

Alan Kardec – Brazil

Another who came to the tournament with a big reputation after scoring plenty of goals in his homeland for Vasco da Gama, Kardec’s career has wilted after going on loan to Internacional, where he hasn’t featured. Nevertheless he had an excellent tournament, playing up front for a side creating plenty of chances, helping himself to several goals. His defining moment came in the semi-final against Costa Rica, when he managed to hook the winning goal from an impossibly tight angle to settle the tie. With talent and confidence in abundance, if Kardec can find some regular first team football, it would be no surprise to see him making the same impact on the Brasileirao that ex-Palmeiras striker Keirrison made.

Dominic Adiyiah – Ghana

Arguably the break-out player of the tournament, the Ghanaian striker burst onto the scene, scoring goals freely after forming the partnership of the tournament up front with Ransford Osei for the Black Satellites. Blindingly fast and an immense physical presence, Adiyiah is more than just a lumbering target-man, but also a lethal forward. After moving to Norwegian football in the summer, precisely how long Adiyiah remains in Scandinavia is open to debate, as there certainly will be no shortage of clubs interested in his signature based on his performances in Egypt.
William405
Some news about the kid:
http://forum.soccermanager.com/showthread.php?t=41943
http://forum.soccermanager.com/showthread....1943&page=6

From a forum supporting Brazil maybe,tongue.gif.From what I have read,he can be become our 1st substitution choice center back easily.I would say 8.7mill is a good deal,he is what 5 years younger than thiago silva and sounds promising.
nuh
is all this true about Toloi cuz i really don't wanna get too excited about him just yet
William405
Seems so.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (nuh @ May 12 2010, 10:23 AM) *
is all this true about Toloi cuz i really don't wanna get too excited about him just yet


Yeah he's pretty much done deal. Serginho had been following him for quite a while, which is good news. The only thing i'm not sure about is the price tag.
han2503
Let's just all wait until he's holding the shirt up before we all jump to conclusions.

If all the "done deals" that have been reported were true in the past we wouldn't be in the mess we're in now...
Jack Sparrow
han2503...being the voice of reason?? Is it 2012 already???!! ohmy.gif
han2503
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ May 12 2010, 08:23 PM) *
han2503...being the voice of reason?? Is it 2012 already???!! ohmy.gif

Oh shut up!!! biggrin.gif
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (Fishdoll @ May 12 2010, 09:48 AM) *
Yep, Gazzetta got that contract bit wrong.

So, anyway, Sky Italia has an interview with Fester. (link)

He notes that Allegri is technically a milanista, having played for Milan in a summer tournament in 94, states that Pato is not sellable, that Ronaldinho has another year on his contract, and notes that his meeting with Roberto de Assis was about other players, not Ronaldinho.

Who are some of de Assis' other notable clients apart from Ronaldinho?
nuh
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ May 12 2010, 06:51 PM) *
Yeah he's pretty much done deal. Serginho had been following him for quite a while, which is good news. The only thing i'm not sure about is the price tag.

do you have any other sources other than one website?
I don't seem to find it in any newspaper or website.
Dracoris
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ May 12 2010, 04:57 PM) *
Who are some of de Assis' other notable clients apart from Ronaldinho?


Toloi maybe? smile.gif

Dracoris
This looks pretty good to me....maybe we'll get to see it more often

http://bosnia.worldcupblog.org/files/2008/...an1-300x246.gif
Bluesummers
QUOTE (nuh @ May 12 2010, 03:08 PM) *
do you have any other sources other than one website?
I don't seem to find it in any newspaper or website.


papers in Brazil say it. I don't have a source sorry sad.gif
Bluesummers
news:


Sir Alex Ferguson wants Borriello. Reported price is 18m. link


Crudeli: "Allegri? Chances are ..."

Tiziano Crudeli, a guest at Diretta Stadio, he expressed his opinion about the next coach of AC Milan: "I think Milan have already chosen Allegri, he is the chosen one, was three days in Milan and all the evidence points to think that he agreed. There are good possibilities. " Allegri might be the right man: "He did very well with Cagliari, has been shown to have personality." The rumored arrival of Tassotti and Galli, "Tassotti and Galli are excellent technicians and are familiar with AC Milan. To begin a cycle, however, should be already chosen a technician with experience in other benches in the Serie A".

http://www.milannews.it/?action=read&idnotizia=24613
Jack Sparrow
I find the Ferguson thing..absolutely unbelievable!! Funny even!!
Tennie
Yeah, after Galliani's interview this morning (see previous page), it's looking like Allegri's stock is rising.

Borriello at MU? That one...bit of a surprise. I don't see him leaving.
Dracoris
SELL.


smile.gif smile.gif
d'Arc.LP
For 18 Million ?ohmy.gif
Of course we should sell him.
Dzeko
QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ May 13 2010, 08:55 AM) *
For 18 Million ?ohmy.gif
Of course we should sell him.


Why should we sell him? Trade him for Nani or Obertan just don't eaven think to bring Berbatov !!!
d'Arc.LP
QUOTE (Dzeko @ May 13 2010, 09:49 AM) *
Why should we sell him? Trade him for Nani or Obertan just don't eaven think to bring Berbatov !!!


Or we can add thoose 18m some extra money and bring Dzeko or Benzema here.
Tennie
Tuttomercatoweb is talking about Oddo returning to Lazio. YAY. (link

And more good news on Tuttomercatoweb. They're talking about NOT making Mancini's loan permanent. link

rip
Gourcuff seems to be on the move. do you think our management might bring him back?

Goal
nuh
the management will only bring him back if he becomes a world champion, a european winner and 30+ years old
Danny
Saw the Borriello link this morning, must say I did not see that one coming. I would also never have said he was worth £18M.

Seems being selected for your country's world cup squad does wonders for your value and attractiveness to other clubs.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Tennie @ May 13 2010, 12:43 PM) *
Tuttomercatoweb is talking about Oddo returning to Lazio. YAY. (link


Yes, please!!!
dst
QUOTE (Tennie @ May 13 2010, 01:43 PM) *
Tuttomercatoweb is talking about Oddo returning to Lazio. YAY. (link

The *******! Why did he not agree to leave last season!?

QUOTE (Tennie @ May 13 2010, 01:43 PM) *
And more good news on Tuttomercatoweb. They're talking about NOT making Mancini's loan permanent. link

Great!

QUOTE (rip @ May 13 2010, 01:46 PM) *
Gourcuff seems to be on the move. do you think our management might bring him back?

Goal

Can't see it happening. I think Gourcuff at Milan is a finished chapter.

QUOTE (Danny @ May 13 2010, 02:52 PM) *
Seems being selected for your country's world cup squad does wonders for your value and attractiveness to other clubs.

I think Ferguson knows better than that. Don't you think it's bs?

It goes without saying that we should sell him for that money.
Jack Sparrow
QUOTE (dst @ May 13 2010, 07:43 PM) *
The *******! Why did he not agree to leave last season!?


Great!


Can't see it happening. I think Gourcuff at Milan is a finished chapter.


I think Ferguson knows better than that. Don't you think it's bs?

It goes without saying that we should sell him for that money.


1. His decline has been scary no??!!
2. Actually agree with you.
3. Me too. He has been blindingly inconsistent for Bordeaux this season you know. tongue.gif
4. Yes I do, hon! You're right as always.
Dracoris
Oddo to Lazio?

SELL.
Danny
QUOTE (dst @ May 13 2010, 02:13 PM) *
I think Ferguson knows better than that. Don't you think it's bs?


He's needing a better partner for Rooney than Berbatov, which just hasn't worked. In saying that, Borriello's a notoriously solo striker who doesn't excel paired with someone.

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It goes without saying that we should sell him for that money.


Yes it does.
servbot
QUOTE (nuh @ May 13 2010, 06:27 AM) *
the management will only bring him back if he becomes a world champion, a european winner and 30+ years old


laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
X-Offender
I can see Ferguson going for Huntelaar rather than Borriello.
Fishdoll
realmad.gif realmad.gif realmad.gif BRING US GIUSEPPE ROSSI!

(^^^ This fish's wish for the transfer window.)
nuh
i dunno but i think a bigger striker would be better then Rossi, when i say bigger i mean physically bigger not name wise.
X-Offender
Giussepe Rossi could be a good alternative to Pato.
Habitant
QUOTE (Fishdoll @ May 13 2010, 05:29 PM) *
realmad.gif realmad.gif realmad.gif BRING US GIUSEPPE ROSSI!

(^^^ This fish's wish for the transfer window.)

he needs to come back to italy
...hopefully juve dont get him before us.... i've been wanting him too, for about 2 years now...
CrazyMilanFan
QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 13 2010, 08:41 PM) *
Giussepe Rossi could be a good alternative to Pato.

he can play AM role as well i too really want this guy at milan would love to have him and prefer him to dzeko, krasic if i had to choose one
Dracoris
Who knows.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy/2010/...is-season-agent
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