Sorry if this seems a little vicious. Usually when pointless arguments (between informed and utterly uninformed members) occur over something that is simple fact, I get frustrated but don't feel the need to add to an already frustratingly pointless conversation. However, I guess this time (given some of the recent exchanges) I can't help myself.

There are some things that are said on occasion in these threads that really make me scratch my head, as they are completely nonsensical. It's a large part of why post a lot less than I used to in the forum — sometimes the positions people take up are so absurd they might as well be those of completely uneducated football fans. Meanwhile, a few knowledgeable ones slap their foreheads trying to reason with them. Here is an example of two such recent exchanges:

1. The Kaka 2nd yellow --> red vs. Ivory Coast

To the people who are trying to maintain that Kaka deliberately elbowed Keita and deserved the sending off, I have one question for you: Have you ever stepped onto a football pitch, and played against athletic opposition in a competitive setting? Because if you have, then you will know type of contact constitutes a foul, a card, etc. Kader Keita ran unknowingly right into Kaka. Kader Keita is an elite African athletic physical specimen who will knock you the f*** over when running right at you. Kaka, who only sees Keita approaching from his peripherals, raises his SHOULDER if anything, to simply absorb contact and not get completely trucked over. Keita receives something of a forearm to his midsection — what's Kaka supposed to do, stand their like a pencil and get bowled over? please. — and the guy, who is as physically imposing as an athlete gets, goes down as if he's been shot. Yea. Right. Clearly a yellow card on Kaka. If you see that play, and think Kaka was being malicious — as opposed to doing exactly what any athlete in that situation would do (brace oneself for the contact and take minimal measures to see that you don't see the worst of it) — then I challenge your ability to fully understand intense, physical athletic competition at the highest level, and what ones instincts tell you to do in certain situations.

2. Pastore sucks? lol.

People, Pastore is a brilliant talent. He had an incredible year at Palermo, has beaten the odds in making the Argentinian squad. Anyone saying to the contrary should possibly not be posting in the forum of an Italian Serie A team, seeing as your knowledge of the league is minimal. Pastore thinks amazingly quickly on the pitch, as has the speed and skills to match. Did you all fail to notice the immediate improvement of Argentina yesterday when he came on the field? He has the ability to lull defenders to sleep with unsuspecting short passing, and then break the game open the split second their not ready for it. If you'll remember, it was Pastore who came on as a substitute, completed 17-23 passes, played three 1-2's with Messi at full speed to set him up for the shot that Leo eventually banged off the post. If you think Pastore sucks, then you probably thought Kaka sucked while playing for us, cuz if you open your eyes you'll realize they are basically the same type of attacker. And if you thought that, well then...what can i say.

We'd be wise if we signed him right now when he only costs about 25-30 million, because when he explodes, dealing with someone like Zamparini over a reasonable price would be impossible.

I hope Keita gets the kind of ban that Rivaldo did.

Tuttomercatoweb thinks that Milan has bought Astori's co-ownership from Cagliari and that he'll be returning to Milan. Figure somewhere in the 3.5 million range. link

Bad, very bad move.

No, he was the cover for kaladzhe's contract rescinding...

No, he was the cover for kaladzhe's contract rescinding...

Which is why it's bad. Kaladze was supposed to be our main back up for Nesta and Silva. Now if one of them is to get injured, we'd have to choose from Bonera, Astori and Yepes. Neither are worthy of the task IMO.

2. Pastore sucks? lol.

People, Pastore is a brilliant talent. He had an incredible year at Palermo, has beaten the odds in making the Argentinian squad. Anyone saying to the contrary should possibly not be posting in the forum of an Italian Serie A team, seeing as your knowledge of the league is minimal. Pastore thinks amazingly quickly on the pitch, as has the speed and skills to match. Did you all fail to notice the immediate improvement of Argentina yesterday when he came on the field? He has the ability to lull defenders to sleep with unsuspecting short passing, and then break the game open the split second their not ready for it. If you'll remember, it was Pastore who came on as a substitute, completed 17-23 passes, played three 1-2's with Messi at full speed to set him up for the shot that Leo eventually banged off the post. If you think Pastore sucks, then you probably thought Kaka sucked while playing for us, cuz if you open your eyes you'll realize they are basically the same type of attacker. And if you thought that, well then...what can i say.

Could there be a twist in the case dell'ultimora Astori. As reported by Sky, Milan and Cagliari could renew the joint ownership of Davide Astori, a central defender who has behaved well in the last two seasons in red and blue.

Until a few days ago it seemed certain the redemption of Milan for 3.5 million. Perhaps the Rossoneri want to do another year of experience in Astoria, without spending a dollar.

Source: tuttocagliari - SKY

Juventus Duo David Trezeguet & Mauro Camoranesi Off To Milan - Report

Milan ready to land Juventus duo...

Juventus duo David Trezeguet and Mauro Camoranesi have reached the end of the line in Turin and they could embark on a journey to Milan, according to Tuttosport.

Trezeguet, whose deal in Turin expires next year, has been tipped to leave the club, despite his agent Antonio Caliendo claiming he could stay on last week.

"It's not said he will leave," the agent told the press.

However, Juve's good relationship with Milan could see the Old Lady turn provider after the Rossoneri sold them Marco Storari.

Milan have been tracking the French hitman and they are expected to make their move.

Camoranesi has also been linked with a move to Milan. Simone Pepe's arrival in the Bianconeri ranks appears to be pushing him over the edge.

The Italo-Argentine is also attracted by playing in the Champions League.

This is GOAL quoting Tuttosport, I'm aware of that, but if something like this happens to my Milan I might as well try suicide or something.

Camo on loan wouldn't bother me, he can serve as a stop gap for a year... no more then a year thought...Trezeguet...NO!!

I swear any existing member of the Azzuri to Milan who's over 30 will piss me off!

Even Buffon?

Tbh I'd rather sign Giovinco instead.

Why would we sign Giovinco anyway? He's nothing special.

Now when Allegri is here, Im hoping on Matri but mostly Lazzari or else Fabiano instead

Hunter more talented than Torres??!!

Torres actually moves. Doesn't think of himself as a cell phone tower.

Ah. Sorry. I no speaka da engleesh.