X-Offender
May 14 2012, 04:48 PM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 14 2012, 05:31 PM)

Friend, Seedorf against Real doesn't worry me that much as Allegri does. In my opinion as long as he's the coach we won't have a real shot in the CL, with or without Seedorf.
Better to have only Allegri holding us back than both him and Seedorf.
Jack Sparrow
May 14 2012, 04:53 PM
Seedorf has never held us back in the CL.
In the Serie A against the little teams that park the bus, sure. He doesn't have the pace and we don't need to keep the ball and regain position.
But when we're outgunned I trust Seedorf to hold the fort. We need someone with intelligence and confidence in that mid-field. SOmeone who's been there and done that.
And this is me going on about playing matters, I'm not even bringing up the huge impact he could have in the dressing room.
But in the end this is the coach's decision. I would prefer the influence of someone like Seedorf over our younger team mates than someone like Ibra. But if the coach feels Seedorf hampers his ideas getting through, then he has to go.
X-Offender
May 14 2012, 05:03 PM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ May 14 2012, 05:53 PM)

Seedorf has never held us back in the CL.
In the Serie A against the little teams that park the bus, sure. He doesn't have the pace and we don't need to keep the ball and regain position.
But when we're outgunned I trust Seedorf to hold the fort. We need someone with intelligence and confidence in that mid-field. SOmeone who's been there and done that.
Sorry, but I can't agree. In the CL the intensity and pace of the game is at very high levels. You need people who can run endlessly for 90 minutes, who can work their butts off and never lose their grip. Seedorf could barely last 30 minutes against Barcelona. I really can't understand how you all talk about experience when we have a 36-y-o player in our hands that simply can't cut it anymore.
Zed.D
May 14 2012, 07:14 PM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ May 14 2012, 06:53 PM)

Perhaps Ganso or Eriksen or someone will be made available in 2013 and at a decent price. Maybe there is even a backdoor agreement. Perhaps we need to save the cash till then.
There's only 3 CL spots left for Serie A and we must finish in the top 3
next season. NOT 2013,
next season! doesn't make any sense delaying one of our most important signings for another season. if we finish outside the top 3, no top player would come then anyway. too much of a risk.
Secure a top quality replacement and THEN offer Seedorf to stay another year. no one will complain...
... mainly because Seedorf won't stay to warm the bench anyway
X-Offender
May 14 2012, 08:14 PM
QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 14 2012, 08:14 PM)

... mainly because Seedorf won't stay to warm the bench anyway

Which is pretty much the whole point.
Rossoneri7
May 14 2012, 08:24 PM
What if we retained Aquilani and got Montolivo, yet Allegri starts Seedorf against Barcelona?
X-Offender
May 14 2012, 08:27 PM
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ May 14 2012, 09:24 PM)

What if we retained Aquilani and got Montolivo, yet Allegri starts Seedorf against Barcelona?
Then that's another reason why he shouldn't stay.
han2503
May 14 2012, 08:59 PM
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ May 14 2012, 08:24 PM)

What if we retained Aquilani and got Montolivo, yet Allegri starts Seedorf against Barcelona?
Highly unlikely at this point... To both 'What If' scenarios
Rossoneri7
May 14 2012, 09:36 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ May 14 2012, 10:59 PM)

Highly unlikely at this point... To both 'What If' scenarios
The mans leaving, a little respect for a legend who didnt walk out on you ala Pirlo to juve. He stays one more season, who cares theres Montolivo, and by your standards Montolivo has more to offer, hence no need to worry.
With that said, I hope he does leave this summer, for obvious reasons.
han2503
May 14 2012, 10:03 PM
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ May 14 2012, 08:36 PM)

The mans leaving, a little respect for a legend who didnt walk out on you ala Pirlo to juve. He stays one more season, who cares theres Montolivo, and by your standards Montolivo has more to offer, hence no need to worry.
With that said, I hope he does leave this summer, for obvious reasons.
What did I say that was offensive?
I said it was highly unlikely that Allegri would start Seedorf against Barca. And that it's highly unlikely that Aquilani will be staying.
I personally appreciate all of Seedorf's contributions, the good and the bad. Because the bad just made us acknowledge how amazing the good parts of his game could be. But at this point him staying would be a step backwards for us and a missed opportunity for him.
He could choose highly lucrative deals in other countries where he could once again be an undisputed king amongst his team mates in smaller leagues. He could go enjoy the high life in Brazil, or retire in the US, get fat eating great food. Whatever he wants. Staying at Milan would only mean a year on the bench for him unless there is a dire injury situation
X-Offender
May 14 2012, 10:05 PM
He's 36. Unless he plans to play until he's 40 or something, this might very well be hist last year in professional football. If he really feels like he can still give something, he should play where his contribution will be valued. Clearly that place is not Milan, anymore.
Fillipo Simone
May 14 2012, 10:07 PM
For you, it's clear. We'll see about the people that matter though
X-Offender
May 14 2012, 10:10 PM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 14 2012, 11:07 PM)

For you, it's clear. We'll see about the people that matter though

For me and the majority of Milan fans.
Fillipo Simone
May 14 2012, 10:25 PM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 14 2012, 11:10 PM)

For me and the majority of Milan fans.
I'm not that sure if it is a majority. But anyway. It's up to Zee, Galliani and Allegri.
X-Offender
May 14 2012, 10:37 PM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 14 2012, 11:25 PM)

I'm not that sure if it is a majority. But anyway. It's up to Zee, Galliani and Allegri.
Oh yes, it's a great majority.
Fillipo Simone
May 14 2012, 11:03 PM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 14 2012, 11:37 PM)

Oh yes, it's a great majority.
X-Offender
May 15 2012, 12:01 AM
According to Fabio Santini (calciomercato expert), Seedorf has accepted a two-year contract with Botafogo for €3 million a year. Also, the club will secure him free flights from Brazil to Milan to allow Seedorf to take care of his economic and social interests in Italy.
Link
Fillipo Simone
May 15 2012, 12:25 AM
So, that's it then.
TriniKing_CE
May 15 2012, 12:45 AM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 14 2012, 07:01 PM)

According to Fabio Santini (calciomercato expert), Seedorf has accepted a two-year contract with Botafogo for €3 million a year. Also, the club will secure him free flights from Brazil to Milan to allow Seedorf to take care of his economic and social interests in Italy.
LinkSeems to be a rather generous gesture on Milan's part.
X-Offender
May 15 2012, 12:46 AM
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ May 15 2012, 01:45 AM)

Seems to be a rather generous gesture on Milan's part.
No, Botafogo will secure him the flights.
kurtsimonw
May 15 2012, 01:51 AM
Good move for everyone in my opinion.
Jack Sparrow
May 15 2012, 08:08 AM
Yeah. Except for Ambro.
nuh
May 15 2012, 10:48 AM
http://www.milannews.it/?action=read&idnotizia=80560What's this? Google translate isn't working at my end.
CrazyMilanFan
May 15 2012, 11:11 AM
i beleive it is basically linking strootman with us and Riola potenially being involved in that deal... Other crazy news in corrie today thiago silva-baltelli swap.... while tevez again linked with milan..
Fillipo Simone
May 15 2012, 11:25 AM
Ain't gonna happen. Loosing Nesta and Silva in one summer would be suicide.
Strootman? If he's half as good he'd be welcome.
vahid
May 15 2012, 02:27 PM

MVB has been assigned the number 6 shirt which previously assigned to Strootman.
CrazyMilanFan
May 15 2012, 02:32 PM
QUOTE (vahid @ May 15 2012, 02:27 PM)


MVB has been assigned the number 6 shirt which previously assigned to Strootman.
interesting
Fillipo Simone
May 15 2012, 02:36 PM
This could be a good sign, but Bommel is a club legend, and maybe the kid just wanted to make a nice gesture. Don't believe this is the case, but sill.
X-Offender
May 15 2012, 02:43 PM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 15 2012, 03:36 PM)

This could be a good sign, but Bommel is a club legend, and maybe the kid just wanted to make a nice gesture. Don't believe this is the case, but sill.
Yeah, that's what I thought too. But the fact that we're interested in the kid is still there. And with van Bommel's good word, he may push for a transfer to us.
han2503
May 15 2012, 04:36 PM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 15 2012, 01:36 PM)

This could be a good sign, but Bommel is a club legend, and maybe the kid just wanted to make a nice gesture. Don't believe this is the case, but sill.
Still, you don't usually take a player's number away from him.
If it is as you say, a gesture from the player himself than it's another thing. But we're allowed to be hopeful

I looked at some clips of this Strootman kid, he looks impressive. I know, youtube can make me look amazing, but the talent is very obvious to see, especially in the way he picks his passes
X-Offender
May 15 2012, 05:37 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ May 15 2012, 05:36 PM)

I looked at some clips of this Strootman kid, he looks impressive. I know, youtube can make me look amazing, but the talent is very obvious to see, especially in the way he picks his passes
We also have CHU's attestations to count on.
Zed.D
May 15 2012, 05:40 PM
It's that time of the year again...
TriniKing_CE
May 15 2012, 06:30 PM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 14 2012, 07:46 PM)

No, Botafogo will secure him the flights.
Ahh yes okay, that makes more sense.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ May 14 2012, 08:51 PM)

Good move for everyone in my opinion.
Agreed.
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ May 15 2012, 06:11 AM)

Other crazy news in corrie today thiago silva-baltelli swap

Saw this last yesterday, I just laughed it off and moved along.
TheOgre
May 15 2012, 10:16 PM
Fillipo Simone
May 15 2012, 10:17 PM
Big time choker who'd be expensive. But, I'd take him under our circumstances.
Zed.D
May 16 2012, 08:53 AM
He may not have exactly shined in big games, but I wouldn't say he's a definite big game choker yet. he's probably more talented than Aquilani and Montolivo combined, and he's still rather young, I think in the right place he can live up to his hype. I wouldn't mind him either.
CrazyMilanFan
May 16 2012, 03:34 PM
madrid are said to be intested in strootman as well to replace diarra..
X-Offender
May 16 2012, 04:32 PM
We seem interested in Marco Rigoni, 32 years old AM of Novara. Source: Mediaset
Wow!
Fillipo Simone
May 16 2012, 04:54 PM
Must be a joke. He's their best player, but it's Novara for crying out loud!!
Zed.D
May 16 2012, 05:05 PM
QUOTE
Lopez only wants Milan
By Football Italia staff
Maxi Lopez has made it clear that he wants Milan to do a deal with Catania over a permanent switch to San Siro.
The striker moved to the Stadio Meazza in January on a €1.5m loan, an agreement which included the option to complete his transfer for a further €8m.
“I really wanted to wear this shirt and do well for the cause,” he told Sky Sport Italia. “I always gave my best when I was called upon by the Coach.
“My agent will soon meet with the Milan directors, but I only have Milan in my mind. I’m happy here and I can give even more.
“I’m thinking of nothing else but playing for Milan.”
The 28-year-old, formerly of Barcelona and River Plate, scored one goal in eight Serie A games for the Diavolo. He grabbed one – against Juventus – in two Cup appearances.
Personally I hope he stays, he's the most decent substitute we can manage. besides he's attitude is really good.
han2503
May 16 2012, 05:10 PM
8m is too much for a Pippo replacement imo. It's too much when you consider we don't even want to pay that amount for players we ac tually need
Zed.D
May 16 2012, 05:20 PM
Somehow I missed that number and only read his quotes.
Yes 8 million is a bit too much. 5 millions sounds about right though to me. he's not bad.
X-Offender
May 16 2012, 05:43 PM
Do we really need six forwards, though? I think five is more than enough for a team that plays with two in the starting line-up. I'd rather spend those money on a defender or midfielder.
Fillipo Simone
May 16 2012, 05:49 PM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 16 2012, 06:43 PM)

Do we really need six forwards, though? I think five is more than enough for a team that plays with two in the starting line-up. I'd rather spend those money on a defender or midfielder.
I think last season proved you that 6 is a necessity. You have Ibra, the Pato who could be again under a injury spell, then Cassano and Robinho who aren't exactly finishers. Who's the 5th striker?
X-Offender
May 16 2012, 05:54 PM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 16 2012, 06:49 PM)

I think last season proved you that 6 is a necessity. You have Ibra, the Pato who could be again under a injury spell, then Cassano and Robinho who aren't exactly finishers. Who's the 5th striker?
El Shaarawy.
Last season was an exception. Pato was out all season and Cassano got unlucky with his heart condition. And we all know Allegri doesn't play finishers in his line-up. I think Maxi Lopez only started like two games this season, and even then we were in an emergency for strikers. I think €8 million on this guy is a waste, even though he's not bad.
Fillipo Simone
May 16 2012, 06:02 PM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 16 2012, 06:54 PM)

El Shaarawy.
Last season was an exception. Pato was out all season and Cassano got unlucky with his heart condition. And we all know Allegri doesn't play finishers in his line-up. I think Maxi Lopez only started like two games this season, and even then we were in an emergency for strikers. I think €8 million on this guy is a waste, even though he's not bad.
Forgot about him.
Exception? And you think Pato's injury cycle and Cassano's condition can't be repeated?
Also, what if Ibra is banned or injured? I'd treat last seasons luck with Ibra not being injured as the exception. Don't you think a backup is necessary?
X-Offender
May 16 2012, 06:02 PM
OFFICIAL: Ambrosini has renewed for another year.
X-Offender
May 16 2012, 06:07 PM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 16 2012, 07:02 PM)

Forgot about him.
Exception? And you think Pato's injury cycle and Cassano's condition can't be repeated?
Also, what if Ibra is banned or injured? I'd treat last seasons luck with Ibra not being injured as the exception. Don't you think a backup is necessary?
No, I don't think Cassano's condition can be repeated. And for all we know, Pato might be sold to PSG and replaced by Tevez/Balotelli instead. We already were in an emergency situation this season, and Maxi only played two games from the start. If Allegri didn't use him then, what are the chances of him playing if all our strikers are fit? That'd be €8 million on the stands week in and week out, and honestly, we're not that rich to afford such a luxury. I'd rather recruit a primavera in case of emergency and spend those money on a LB or DM.
Zed.D
May 16 2012, 06:12 PM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 16 2012, 09:32 PM)

OFFICIAL: Ambrosini has renewed for another year.
Unlike last seasons, no one's gonna complain about a veteran renewing anymore. I miss those days already...
... nah, kidding.
Jack Sparrow
May 16 2012, 06:30 PM
PLease find out the new wages. Otherwise there will be hell to pay for if Ambro ever has a bad game. We'll just assume he is on Five million a year and talk of how Strasser should have played instead.
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