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Fillipo Simone
Hmh...why is DDR crossed off the possible signings list? Has he extended with Roma or?
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 18 2012, 04:07 PM) *
Hmh...why is DDR crossed off the possible signings list? Has he extended with Roma or?

Correct
acid911
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 19 2012, 01:07 AM) *
Hmh...why is DDR crossed off the possible signings list? Has he extended with Roma or?

Yes he agreed terms with the club. sleep.gif Should tie him up there for quite a while.
il_diavolo_mtl
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Riccardo Montolivo’s contract with Fiorentina expires in June, but he denies having a deal with Milan. “I don’t know what my future will be.”

The midfielder refused an extension and will therefore be a free agent in the summer, but while he was heavily linked with Inter, Juventus, Bayern Munich and Roma, the general belief is that he’ll end up with the Rossoneri.

“At the end of the season I will very likely leave Florence, albeit with great disappointment,” Montolivo told children ‘interviewing’ him on a visit to a paediatric hospital.

“There has not been any offer from Milan, so I don’t know what my future will be.”

The children also asked whether money or passion was the deciding factor in his career.

“Money is important in life, but without the passion you have within you right from childhood, it would all be over.

“You must never give in and always believe in your dreams. I dreamed of Serie A and I did it.”
X-Offender
Montolivo was the worst on the field last night again Napoli. Sometimes I wonder if it's worth it signing him. Never liked the guy.
KillerMax
Yeah me neither. I think Aquilani is enough for that type of CM.
Fillipo Simone
That makes three of us smile.gif
d'Arc.LP
Guys, he'll come for free, I don't see any risk on that. Clearly he can perform in a better level than Seedorf so, I wouldn't mind him to be a backup for Aquilani. And to be honest, Fiorentina is not the best team where you can prove your creativity.
il_diavolo_mtl
I'd personally rather have Poli then Aqui or Montolivo, but Samp loaned him to the dark side...
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Feb 18 2012, 10:57 PM) *
Guys, he'll come for free, I don't see any risk on that. Clearly he can perform in a better level than Seedorf so, I wouldn't mind him to be a backup for Aquilani. And to be honest, Fiorentina is not the best team where you can prove your creativity.

Ahh, not so sure about that. But here's why the Montolivo signing bothers me:

1) Because it means most probably that our management will consider the AM/creative position filled and won't even bother luring someone like Eriksen.

2) Because now I'd prefer quality over quantity. We have a bunch of midfielders in our team, and even at the peak of our injury crisis we found a fair/alright solution. What we now need IMO is someone like Pirlo or Sneijder, a true starter who'd be class and not just here as a number.


d'Arc.LP
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 18 2012, 11:19 PM) *
Ahh, not so sure about that. But here's why the Montolivo signing bothers me:

1) Because it means most probably that our management will consider the AM/creative position filled and won't even bother luring someone like Eriksen.

2) Because now I'd prefer quality over quantity. We have a bunch of midfielders in our team, and even at the peak of our injury crisis we found a fair/alright solution. What we now need IMO is someone like Pirlo or Sneijder, a true starter who'd be class and not just here as a number.


I thought that Boateng is filling that possition very good. And we cant have 2 world class AM's in our team 'cos one of them would have to be benched most of time and I don't think someone like Eriksen would accept that. We also have Merkel and Valotti, we should give space to our own talents.

Aquilani is Milan material player, I think he prooved that over this season. Maybe he wasn't brilliant against Inter and Barcelona, but that doesn't mean he can't perform against big teams. I don't see Galliani spending 20-30 mln for someone like them for example Modric. So in that case, I'd be glad with Montolivo. 2-3 midfielders will go in the end of the season, we'll be left with top 6-7. That's enough for Allegri's 4-3-1-2.
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 18 2012, 11:19 PM) *
Ahh, not so sure about that. But here's why the Montolivo signing bothers me:

1) Because it means most probably that our management will consider the AM/creative position filled and won't even bother luring someone like Eriksen.

2) Because now I'd prefer quality over quantity. We have a bunch of midfielders in our team, and even at the peak of our injury crisis we found a fair/alright solution. What we now need IMO is someone like Pirlo or Sneijder, a true starter who'd be class and not just here as a number.

Sadly I can't see us going after somone like Eriksen either way. Main reasons: He's young, not flashy, not a big name to tickle Silvio's fancy, and most importantly, it's very unlikely that we can wrestle a cheap price out of Ajax like we did for Zlatan, Robinho, Nocerino, etc

So I'm ok with Monto because I do believe that financially, he's the best we can do atm .i.e free
X-Offender
QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Feb 18 2012, 11:28 PM) *
I thought that Boateng is filling that possition very good. And we cant have 2 world class AM's in our team 'cos one of them would have to be benched most of time and I don't think someone like Eriksen would accept that. We also have Merkel and Valotti, we should give space to our own talents.

Aquilani is Milan material player, I think he prooved that over this season. Maybe he wasn't brilliant against Inter and Barcelona, but that doesn't mean he can't perform against big teams. I don't see Galliani spending 20-30 mln for someone like them for example Modric. So in that case, I'd be glad with Montolivo. 2-3 midfielders will go in the end of the season, we'll be left with top 6-7. That's enough for Allegri's 4-3-1-2.


Boateng can play RCM, though, to be honest, he's been really good as AM so far. Sure, he's not your typical flashy trequartista, with lots of creativity and vision, but the guy has been faring well in that position. Don't get me wrong, I'd take someone like Eriksen on the spot, but even if we don't sign him, at least we have a quality AM we can count on.
d'Arc.LP
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 19 2012, 12:26 AM) *
Boateng can play RCM, though, to be honest, he's been really good as AM so far. Sure, he's not your typical flashy trequartista, with lots of creativity and vision, but the guy has been faring well in that position. Don't get me wrong, I'd take someone like Eriksen on the spot, but even if we don't sign him, at least we have a quality AM we can count on.


Boateng has played RCM against Atalanta and haven't impress that much. I'd like some extra creativity in our midfield, it's something we miss, but I don't see Allegri asking for someone with characteristics like Eriksen or Ganso.
Zed.D
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 19 2012, 01:23 AM) *
That makes three of us smile.gif


Make that four. the kid's overrated. end of.
han2503
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 19 2012, 05:30 PM) *
Make that four. the kid's overrated. end of.

Like I said, it's either him or no one.

He might be a "quantity" player as Filippo likes to put it, but with the injuries we have we need a bit more quantity especially in midfield where we're all muscle and no creativity once Aquilani is ruled out
X-Offender
Corriere dello Sport said today that the Milan board has had enough of Pato's injuries and that they're going to sell him to PSG in the summer.
Zed.D
Good. another training ground, another training routine, another medical and fitness team... he might just manage to get rid of injuries and stay fit, like he does when he's with Brazil.

I have to admit, sometimes I wonder what it would be like if he reunited with Carlo and had the likes of Pastore and Menez around him.

It's for the best I guess. staying at Milan isn't working out for him anymore.
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 19 2012, 05:40 PM) *
Corriere dello Sport said today that the Milan board has had enough of Pato's injuries and that they're going to sell him to PSG in the summer.

The bible for all things Milan rolleyes.gif

If the management were fead up with the injuries they'd have to sell half the sqaud.
Fillipo Simone
I don't believe it a second. But who knows...PSG sure piling up old Milan guard players. But let's ship them Taiwo off first.
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 19 2012, 06:16 PM) *
I don't believe it a second. But who knows...PSG sure piling up old Milan guard players. But let's ship them Taiwo off first.

Can you see him going off to Paris now that he's gotten Babs with child?
Fillipo Simone
Hmh, honestly,...I can. I think Barbara would loose a burden someone as professional as her always has to carry.
Rossoneri7
If the money is good, sell him ... As much as it hurts to say this, but he has a high value in comparison to what he has achieved so far. I am not being too hard on the lad, but it isn't working tbh and it is not like we are dependent on him as was the case for Shevchenko or Kaka for this matter. El Sharaawy is a good enough investment in that light.

Again, ONLY if the money is good.
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Feb 20 2012, 03:45 AM) *
If the money is good, sell him ... As much as it hurts to say this, but he has a high value in comparison to what he has achieved so far. I am not being too hard on the lad, but it isn't working tbh and it is not like we are dependent on him as was the case for Shevchenko or Kaka for this matter. El Sharaawy is a good enough investment in that light.

Again, ONLY if the money is good.

I understand fully what you're saying, but part of me always wants to give him that 'one last chance' to get past these nasty injury nightmares.

It's funny how attached you can get to these players who play for the club and many of us 'just' see on tv. sleep.gif
X-Offender
If selling him means signing Tevez, I'm all for it.
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 20 2012, 04:05 PM) *
If selling him means signing Tevez, I'm all for it.

That's one of the main reasons why selling him would be a mistake FFS!

The man is an idiot, and just not worth our efforts. Good as he may be, he's nothing but trouble.

If it really came down to selling Pato, I'd want us to get an AM, someone like Eriksen or Goetze with that kind of money. Not lick Tevez's @ss to come here for a year and scew us over a few months later
X-Offender
QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 20 2012, 05:34 PM) *
That's one of the main reasons why selling him would be a mistake FFS!

The man is an idiot, and just not worth our efforts. Good as he may be, he's nothing but trouble.

If it really came down to selling Pato, I'd want us to get an AM, someone like Eriksen or Goetze with that kind of money. Not lick Tevez's @ss to come here for a year and scew us over a few months later


He won't do that. Any idiot that comes to Milan becomes a saint, don't you know that? wink.gif
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 20 2012, 05:40 PM) *
He won't do that. Any idiot that comes to Milan becomes a saint, don't you know that? wink.gif

Tevez surpasses that point.

There are reasons why Fergie did not sign him, arguably one of their most influential players for the league. His problems with City came at no surprise to most people.

He's simply not worth our time or money. Especially if City ask for more than we can make on Pato's sale.

Still, for now I don't think Pato will go just yet. But as I said, if we do sell him, Tevez would be the last player I'd want us to get
X-Offender
Tevez is the first player I'd want us to sign. An Ibra-Tevez duo would rip defenses to shreds. cool.gif
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 20 2012, 05:51 PM) *
Tevez is the first player I'd want us to sign. An Ibra-Tevez duo would rip defenses to shreds. cool.gif

And they'd rip each other apart in the dressing rooms cool.gif
X-Offender
QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 20 2012, 06:23 PM) *
And they'd rip each other apart in the dressing rooms cool.gif


Say what? Tevez and Ibra will love each other. Word.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 20 2012, 07:34 PM) *
That's one of the main reasons why selling him would be a mistake FFS!

The man is an idiot, and just not worth our efforts. Good as he may be, he's nothing but trouble.

If it really came down to selling Pato, I'd want us to get an AM, someone like Eriksen or Goetze with that kind of money. Not lick Tevez's @ss to come here for a year and scew us over a few months later


I wouldn't want Tevez either, if he comes then we face reality and maybe the Milan 'family' attitude can work its magic yet again.

I wouldn't want Eriksen or Goetze, I want Hamsik. A midfield of dynamite!!

Napoli will give in at some point, Hamsik will not always be worth as much in three years time. I believe this type of player is very well suited to Allegri's system; imagine a midfield with KPBx2.

That would be my wish for summer 2012 tbh.

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 20 2012, 07:51 PM) *
Tevez is the first player I'd want us to sign. An Ibra-Tevez duo would rip defenses to shreds. cool.gif


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Jack Sparrow
I don't want Tevez. I have faith Cassano will come back. We can do it with just him.
han2503
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 20 2012, 10:06 PM) *
I don't want Tevez. I have faith Cassano will come back. We can do it with just him.

Agreed.

I'd be very happy with our current attack. If they manage to all be fit at the same time.

Imo, the attack is the last position we need to look at. Midfield and defence need to come first. Forget this Tevez BS.
KillerMax
Hamsik sounds so f@cking good.

Abbiati
Abate---Mexes-Silva---Mesbah
Aquilani-Nocerino
Boateng-------Hamsik
Cassano--Ibra


-With Cassano drifting into that middle whole between Boateng and Hamsik to add dynamism and more creativity.

Bring on the Spanish Giants...!
Jack Bauer
Hamsik was our mister x last summer but Napoli did everything in order to keep him. We most probably gonna try to bring him next summer too.
X-Offender
QUOTE (KillerMax @ Feb 20 2012, 10:31 PM) *
Hamsik sounds so f@cking good.

Abbiati
Abate---Mexes-Silva---Mesbah
Aquilani-Nocerino
Boateng-------Hamsik
Cassano--Ibra


-With Cassano drifting into that middle whole between Boateng and Hamsik to add dynamism and more creativity.

Bring on the Spanish Giants...!


Err, Hamsik and Boateng aren't exactly wingers. Plus that formation lacks a proper holding mid. I'd rather take Eriksen and someone à la Xabi Alonso. Veloso, anyone?

Boateng - Veloso - Nocerino
Eriksen


KillerMax
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 20 2012, 05:16 PM) *
Err, Hamsik and Boateng aren't exactly wingers. Plus that formation lacks a proper holding mid. I'd rather take Eriksen and someone à la Xabi Alonso. Veloso, anyone?

Boateng - Veloso - Nocerino
Eriksen



They are not wingers. And is it mandatory to have a holding midfielder? I'm trying to create a similar situation to that of Gattuso Pirlo by using Aquilani as a deep-lying playmaker and Nocerino to do most of the hustle and bustle in there
So it goes a little something like this:

CM-CM
AM---AM
SS-ST
X-Offender
QUOTE (KillerMax @ Feb 21 2012, 12:24 AM) *
They are not wingers. And is it mandatory to have a holding midfielder? I'm trying to create a similar situation to that of Gattuso Pirlo by using Aquilani as a deep-lying playmaker and Nocerino to do most of the hustle and bustle in there
So it goes a little something like this:

CM-CM
AM---AM
SS-ST


Can't say for sure whether Allegri would adopt such a system. Plus Aquilani is no Pirlo. I don't think he's capable of playing in that position.
KillerMax
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 20 2012, 05:16 PM) *
Boateng - Veloso - Nocerino
Eriksen


Looks good. Probably a more stable line up than the off-the-wall one I envisioned. Still, if we got Hamsik, how would you fit him in?

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 20 2012, 05:27 PM) *
Can't say for sure whether Allegri would adopt such a system. Plus Aquilani is no Pirlo. I don't think he's capable of playing in that position.


Anyone can do anything. Aquilani is such a shy, low key player though with very low self-confidence it seems to me. The perfect clone for Pirlo. Until he joins a rival team that is and becomes a friggin lion all of a sudden!
X-Offender
QUOTE (KillerMax @ Feb 21 2012, 12:30 AM) *
Looks good. Probably a more stable line up than the off-the-wall one I envisioned. Still, if we got Hamsik, how would you fit him in?


Hamsik is an AM for me. I remember when we wanted to sign him last summer as a LCM to replace Seedorf, not a good idea. So, if we do sign Hamsik, then:

Boateng - DM - Nocerino
Hamsik


The DM in this case must be someone good at handling the ball and organizing the game. Again, Veloso is the closest (plus cheapest) solution I can think of.
KillerMax
I just keep thinking though, Boateng is doing so well in that ACM position. Why change such a lethal solution to something else? I mean he even kicked Barca's @ss. All I know we need a top quality creative midfielder. Don't know where he is gonna play or how Allegri is gonna adopt his system.

BTW, how did this Eriksen player become such a popular name? Who exactly here follows the Eredivisie or this player particularly?
X-Offender
QUOTE (KillerMax @ Feb 21 2012, 12:58 AM) *
BTW, how did this Eriksen player become such a popular name? Who exactly here follows the Eredivisie or this player particularly?


He's popular because he's the only one we can afford. biggrin.gif
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (KillerMax @ Feb 21 2012, 12:58 AM) *
BTW, how did this Eriksen player become such a popular name? Who exactly here follows the Eredivisie or this player particularly?

Morten Olsen selected him in the Danish national team 2 years ago already, for the WC. He's one of the best performers in Ajax for quite some time. But yes, you're right, it's beginning to sound odd mentioning that name over and over again without ever actually being linked with him once of the last few months.
d'Arc.LP
[REPORT] radio fiorentina Lady Radio: Montolivo has chosen Milan, & will sign 4 years contract (2.5m per year) with an option for a fifth.
X-Offender
QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Feb 21 2012, 02:17 PM) *
[REPORT] radio fiorentina Lady Radio: Montolivo has chosen Milan, & will sign 4 years contract (2.5m per year) with an option for a fifth.


Hasn't that already been mentioned like ten times already?
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 21 2012, 05:22 PM) *
Hasn't that already been mentioned like ten times already?

Yeah, but a couple of days ago Monto said that there was no contact with Milan.

Like he'd ever admit to practically being a Milan player while he still has to play out the rest of the season with Fiorentina
amancik
I'd take Montolivo. He's a decent player, which I believe we can make him better.
d'Arc.LP
Reports emerging that Paul Pogba rejected Milan's offer which consisted of a co-ownership deal with Genoa.
Fillipo Simone
Who the hell is Pogba?
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