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acid911
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 16 2012, 02:55 AM) *
Haha, once you cross the dark side, there's no return. That being said, never in my life did I watch at Milan a player (at Robinho's level) consistently missing chances after chances. 2 seasons is enough for me, and he gives me the feel that with more time passing he's getting even worse.

+1 to both statements. smile.gif Twice, at that. wink.gif He has behaved well, but Robinho's performances do have a terrifying downward trend now. Misses are one thing, he just hasn't been that good for us this season either.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 15 2012, 11:55 PM) *
Haha, once you cross the dark side, there's no return. That being said, never in my life did I watch at Milan a player (at Robinho's level) consistently missing chances after chances. 2 seasons is enough for me, and he gives me the feel that with more time passing he's getting even worse.


Agreed. His first season was pretty good. I mean, if he had not missed all those chances, he'd have easily reached the 20 goals mark. I thought he'd perform even better in the next season, but that was not the case and he barely managed to score 10 goals in all competitions. Add to that very poor performances coupled with scarce continuity and you've got yourself served a horrible season. His only good, very good aspect is his immense work-rate, which I appreciate a lot.
han2503
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 15 2012, 09:52 PM) *
I've always been a fan of buying domestically, any DMs people like from Serie A teams? Aside from unrealistic targets of course.

I personally have always liked Veloso. Who, even more importantly, belongs to Genoa. Thus making the move possible. I can't think of any other DMs in the league that really stand out though
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 16 2012, 12:48 AM) *
Meh, he can go to hell. We don't need him.


I see where your coming from, but Im sure you noticed his workrate being very high. That, for me compensates a lot, seeing as Robinho has never had a profilic goal scoring season. Main reason Madrid sold him off in the first place.

All in all, I think if we need to sell players off, then Robinho should be the first to go considering how well off we are upfront.
han2503
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 16 2012, 11:25 AM) *
I see where your coming from, but Im sure you noticed his workrate being very high. That, for me compensates a lot, seeing as Robinho has never had a profilic goal scoring season. Main reason Madrid sold him off in the first place.

All in all, I think if we need to sell players off, then Robinho should be the first to go considering how well off we are upfront.

15 to 20m for him would be something we can't refuse. It's a great deal for a player like Robinho who's mastly all flair no product.

If we can consider 40m for Thiago than I would walk Robinho to Spain on my back for 20m
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 16 2012, 01:25 PM) *
I see where your coming from, but Im sure you noticed his workrate being very high. That, for me compensates a lot, seeing as Robinho has never had a profilic goal scoring season. Main reason Madrid sold him off in the first place.

All in all, I think if we need to sell players off, then Robinho should be the first to go considering how well off we are upfront.

Yes, but we can get a lot cheaper player (in terms of wages and the buying prize) who can deliver that one category. From a "star player" like Robinho one would expect more the "just" work-rate.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 16 2012, 02:56 PM) *
Yes, but we can get a lot cheaper player (in terms of wages and the buying prize) who can deliver that one category. From a "star player" like Robinho one would expect more the "just" work-rate.


Agreed smile.gif


QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 16 2012, 02:36 PM) *
15 to 20m for him would be something we can't refuse. It's a great deal for a player like Robinho who's mastly all flair no product.

If we can consider 40m for Thiago than I would walk Robinho to Spain on my back for 20m


I'd ship off Robinho regardless of the price to be honest.

I would like for us to look at our youth now, starting with SES.
Rossoneri7
So is Nesta coming back? FI just posted something on him making a Uturn
han2503
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 16 2012, 01:10 PM) *
I'd ship off Robinho regardless of the price to be honest.

I would like for us to look at our youth now, starting with SES.

I don't think SES is ready atm to take the spot of someone who played most of our games last season. Yes there's Cassano and Pato ahead of him but with Pato being Pato you can never say when we just might find ourselves in a critical situation.

I'm not saying that I wouldn't give him the chance, I'm just a bit worried about the pressure that would put on him should we find ourselves in a situation where he's the only starting option

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 16 2012, 01:18 PM) *
So is Nesta coming back? FI just posted something on him making a Uturn

I would love it if he came back!

This is the only guys I wouldn't think twice about signing for another year. It would seriously take off a huge load off our management. They'd just need to get a DM and CM and call it a day
CrazyMilanFan
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 16 2012, 01:58 PM) *
I don't think SES is ready atm to take the spot of someone who played most of our games last season. Yes there's Cassano and Pato ahead of him but with Pato being Pato you can never say when we just might find ourselves in a critical situation.

I'm not saying that I wouldn't give him the chance, I'm just a bit worried about the pressure that would put on him should we find ourselves in a situation where he's the only starting option


I would love it if he cam back!

This is the only guys I wouldn't think twice about signing for another year. It would seriously take off a huge load off our management. They're just need to get a DM and CM and call it a day

yea but also acrebi is supposed to have green light from genoa... and wat about LB?
X-Offender
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jun 16 2012, 03:01 PM) *
and wat about LB?


Emanuelson is the most logical solution at this point.
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 15 2012, 05:14 PM) *
I like it how we talk about players we've never actually seen play in superlatives; last year it was "sign Ganso", then it became "sign Eriksen" (I also participated), now it is Strootman. Well, Ganso turned out to be then big next nothing, while Eriksen so far disappointing me (doesn't necessarily mean he ain't good). I think we should widen the DM search.

Ganso turned out to be then big next nothing - explain... unsure.gif
drucurl
Tbh I can't say definitively the Robinho has to go. This was a pretty miserable season for everyone other than Ibra and Silva. Everyone else has either been poor, average or inconsistent.

Robinho thrives on his being happy and momentum. This season and our genius coach with his legendary tactical decisions gave him neither
acid911
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Jun 16 2012, 07:07 PM) *
Ganso turned out to be then big next nothing - explain...

Aye. laugh.gif I don't think Ganso has turned out yet.
acid911
QUOTE (drucurl @ Jun 17 2012, 03:42 AM) *
Tbh I can't say definitively the Robinho has to go. This was a pretty miserable season for everyone other than Ibra and Silva. Everyone else has either been poor, average or inconsistent.

Somewhat agreed, but man you've got to remember there will be a cost of keeping Silva tied to Milan. A few sacrifices will have to be made and unless we plan to offload Ibra, Robinho is the most obvious choice. smile.gif With Cassano back to his best, the club will most probably promote El Sharaawy from the bench to take Robinho's place.

QUOTE (drucurl @ Jun 17 2012, 03:42 AM) *
Robinho thrives on his being happy and momentum. This season and our genius coach with his legendary tactical decisions gave him neither

He can be happy and have lots of momentum (read: cash) at Malaga. innocent.gif The biggest fish in the pond.
X-Offender
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Kaka could return to Milan

There are surprise rumours that Ricky Kaka could return to Milan just three years after his €70m move to Real Madrid.

The Brazilian talent was sold to raise funds for the Rossoneri in June 2009, but has suffered from numerous injury problems, including knee surgery that kept him out for eight months.

According to the Corriere dello Sport, Kaka is ready to break away from Real Madrid and negotiating to terminate his contract.

This could also suit the Spaniards, who have three more years on the deal worth €11m per season.

It is also reported that Kaka could come in to Milan as a replacement for Zlatan Ibrahimovic, who’d be sold to Madrid in order to reunite with Jose Mourinho from their time together at Inter.

It would give Ibra the opportunity to test himself in La Liga without the tension he had at Barcelona with then-Coach Pep Guardiola.

Link
William405
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Zlatan Ibrahimovic is pleased that Milan decided not to sell Thiago Silva and confirmed he’ll stay, but urged the club to “bring in new players.”

The Rossoneri had been in advanced negotiations with PSG for a €47m move, but President Silvio Berlusconi pulled the plug at the last minute.

“Milan are a club who want to win and if they want to keep winning then they have to keep Thiago Silva,” Ibrahimovic told Fotbollskanalen.se.

“I hope soon they will also bring in new players, that the team plays better and that there aren’t so many injuries.

“I am angry, but that just fires up the desire in me to keep going forward,” he said after Sweden’s elimination from Euro 2012.

“I will respect my contract with Milan and right now am focused only on playing for pride against France.

“I feel even more motivated than usual, as defeats don’t make me think negatively. I am not retiring from international football. Who will win Euro 2012? I couldn’t care less...”


one of the reasons to like Ibra is this...he has ambition.
kurtsimonw
No loyalty, but born winner.
drucurl
If kaka comes here it'll be the best day of the summer for me cool.gif
Zed.D
If Kaka comes he'll spend half of the season on the treatment table and the other half flopping just like Sheva 2008-09.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jun 17 2012, 11:06 PM) *
If Kaka comes he'll spend half of the season on the treatment table and the other half flopping just like Sheva 2008-09.


Still, I wouldn't say no if he came for free.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 17 2012, 11:17 PM) *
Still, I wouldn't say no if he came for free.

+1


I was asked about Ganso earlier. Where is he now? No links with big clubs, not many good games for Brazil either. He may be good, but from what I've seen he surely isn't anything that special.
drucurl
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jun 17 2012, 06:06 PM) *
If Kaka comes he'll spend half of the season on the treatment table and the other half flopping just like Sheva 2008-09.

That was mean.

Unlike $heva kaka has found his old form again with even mourinho admitting it. The question now is just how effective can he be for us. The quality of our central midfield has taken a huge hit from gattuso, dorf and Pirlo to the excuses for players we have now (prince aside of course)
CHU-LIP
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jun 17 2012, 11:06 PM) *
If Kaka comes he'll spend half of the season on the treatment table and the other half flopping just like Sheva 2008-09.

No that would be Pato...
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 17 2012, 05:48 PM) *
+1


I was asked about Ganso earlier. Where is he now? No links with big clubs, not many good games for Brazil either. He may be good, but from what I've seen he surely isn't anything that special.

He is still with Santos just as Neymar is. No doubt the transfer rumors have died down, but that surely isn't a reason to discredit someone. It should also be noted that as of present he is recovering from knee surgery after yet another injury, so if anything he can be discredited for his fitness & durability but it's still very early in the game to write him off.
Bluesummers
I doubt kaka will come, it'll be just like last year. BS BS BS until the end and then they'll panic buy.


But before that happens, i see us selling before making any moves on the market unless theyre free transfers.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jun 18 2012, 09:04 AM) *
I doubt kaka will come, it'll be just like last year. BS BS BS until the end and then they'll panic buy.


+1
William405
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Milan chief Silvio Berlusconi decided to keep Thiago Silva after reportedly reading an 18-page document produced by daughter Barbara on why he shouldn’t be sold.

The Diavolo were in negotiations with Paris Saint-Germain to sell the Brazilian for over €40m, until Berlusconi blocked the sale.

According to Sport Mediaset, Barbara Berlusconi, who has been a board member at the club since April 2011, was opposed to the transfer.

She presented her father with a dossier which highlighted that letting the South American leave would damage the club in the long run.

Although the outfit’s finances would have been boosted by such a cash injection, she argued that his loss would disappoint fans and sponsors.

It may also have had a detrimental effect to the quality of the team which could then subsequently jeopardise future qualification for the Champions League.

Barbara Berlusconi is currently in a relationship with Rossoneri striker Alexandre Pato.


You go girl!
Jack Sparrow
Barbara you beauty! I should have married you when I had the chance! king.gif
William405
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 18 2012, 06:25 PM) *
Barbara you beauty! I should have married you when I had the chance! king.gif


huh.gif You never had a chance.
CHU-LIP
QUOTE (William405 @ Jun 18 2012, 05:24 PM) *
You go girl!

Ah... and she obviously also (indirectly) blocked the transfer of here cutie boy Pato.

Thiago Silva's transfer is rightfully blocked. His importance to Milan is immense. You can't say the same about Pato, who would have been a good choice to get money for.
William405
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Jun 18 2012, 09:08 PM) *
Ah... and she obviously also (indirectly) blocked the transfer of here cutie boy Pato.

Thiago Silva's transfer is rightfully blocked. His importance to Milan is immense. You can't say the same about Pato, who would have been a good choice to get money for.


Let's see,shall we...
Zed.D
Haters gonna hate.
kurtsimonw
I don't really know what to think about Pato. On one hand he's had an awful season, he is injury prone and we've had an offer for a lot of money for him. But he's got huge potential and still only 22 and has had more good seasons than bad. This season is make or break.
Fillipo Simone
Thing is: if he fails this season we're stuck with him. Who'd be crazy enough to invest much money for someone who's spent 2 seasons injured and off the pitch?
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 18 2012, 04:51 PM) *
Thing is: if he fails this season we're stuck with him. Who'd be crazy enough to invest much money for someone who's spent 2 seasons injured and off the pitch?

someone with a proper medical team lol tongue.gif
CrazyMilanFan
so KPB to real stuff going on with sahin and lass diarra swap deal.. apprently we rejected to proposal and want either cash or kaka (tuttosport). Gallaini said there is no KPB-real thing going at all and kaka is 100% not coming.
han2503
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jun 19 2012, 10:11 AM) *
so KPB to real stuff going on with sahin and lass diarra swap deal.. apprently we rejected to proposal and want either cash or kaka (tuttosport). Gallaini said there is no KPB-real thing going at all and kaka is 100% not coming.

Tuttosport is the most idiotic paper around. It can't even be trusted for Turin club based news.

Sahin would be a dream. If Real are willing to offload him than Galliani should step in and hash out some deal. Maybe loan with option to buy for a cheap price.
X-Offender
Genoa have acquired full ownership of Acerbi from Chievo, and are going to give him to us in a co-ownership deal.

Link

Balzaretti met with Palermo's sporting director and refused to renew his contract, which expires in 2013. Apparently he has the desire to join us. At this point, Palermo have to treat his sale ASAP instead of losing him in the last days like they did with Nocerino.

Link

If those deals go through, we'll have taken care of defense. But signing two midfielders (DM and creative) is an absolute priority.
Fillipo Simone
Indeed. Yet, we won't be stronger then last year while Juve and Inter (?) will. We lost three WC players and a bunch of experienced veterans; in return we get...well...average players.
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 19 2012, 08:00 AM) *
Genoa have acquired full ownership of Acerbi from Chievo, and are going to give him to us in a co-ownership deal.

Link

Balzaretti met with Palermo's sporting director and refused to renew his contract, which expires in 2013. Apparently he has the desire to join us. At this point, Palermo have to treat his sale ASAP instead of losing him in the last days like they did with Nocerino.

Link

If those deals go through, we'll have taken care of defense. But signing two midfielders (DM and creative) is an absolute priority.

+1
milanbuf88
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 19 2012, 08:02 AM) *
Indeed. Yet, we won't be stronger then last year while Juve and Inter (?) will. We lost three WC players and a bunch of experienced veterans; in return we get...well...average players.



Three WC players? I count two, Nesta and Van Bommel. Who am I missing? We may not be stronger but it's still June. In my opinion, the thing that will make us stronger is health. There is no way we have so many injuries again next year.
il_diavolo_mtl
QUOTE (milanbuf88 @ Jun 19 2012, 11:42 AM) *
Three WC players? I count two, Nesta and Van Bommel. Who am I missing? We may not be stronger but it's still June. In my opinion, the thing that will make us stronger is health. There is no way we have so many injuries again next year.

I think the year of the Strasser is upon us. No more can our cash-strpped management sleep on field-ready prospects like Rodney...
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Jun 19 2012, 07:30 PM) *
I think the year of the Strasser is upon us. No more can our cash-strpped management sleep on field-ready prospects like Rodney...

I don't think he's ready to be honest.
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 19 2012, 01:34 PM) *
I don't think he's ready to be honest.

At this point in time, he better be, because he's one of our better options.
X-Offender
Preziosi: "I'm meeting Galliani to define Acerbi's sale. I don't think there will be problems because we already have an agreement".

Link

Welcome Francesco!

Cassano: "My future is decided by Milan, or by both of us. We'll see what happens after the European. In my future, for me, there's Sampdoria. It was important to clarify things with Garrone, we've talked. Sampdoria was, is and will always be in my heart. Sooner or later I'd like to return there".

Link

Seems to me like he's already pushing for a move out. His contract expires after two years, when he'll be 31. We should keep him at all cost until then.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 19 2012, 07:34 PM) *
I don't think he's ready to be honest.


Still, we should keep him until we sign a new DM. In the remote case we sign nobody, Strasser will be an important DM option.
TriniKing_CE
Agreed. We can not afford to lose Cassano.
Fillipo Simone
I don't get it, why does Cassano seem so eager to move?
X-Offender
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 19 2012, 08:17 PM) *
I don't get it, why does Cassano seem so eager to move?


I think he must really loved Sampdoria. And having fixed things with Garrone, he thinks it might be opportune to move back there. But the guy's only 29. He should wait 2-3 more years in order to win some silverware with Milan, then sign for Sampdoria to end his career there.
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