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kurtsimonw
If he's great on the pitch and not causing trouble off it, then I won't be complaining of course. But I don't want him here in the first place to find out. Though If we do indeed sign him, I'll give him a fair chance to prove that he's changed. Apologising to Mancini is a start.
Zed.D
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Apologising to Mancini is a start.


Speaking of which, what makes everyone certain that Tevez will leave City after all? if he thought he had no business with them anymore he wouldn't have apologized.
Fillipo Simone
Well, he apologized to save what can be saved for this season. That's all IMO.
Jack Sparrow
They would just have kept him on and fined him into financial oblivion if he hadn't. Man City has won more respect from me for the way they showed Tevez whose boss, rather than all their improvement on the footballing field!
il_diavolo_mtl
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Pogba agrees to join Juve
By Football Italia staff

Paul Pogba has reportedly agreed to leave Manchester United for Juventus at the end of the season.

The 18-year-old midfielder has been in talks with United about a new contract, but no deal could be struck.

It now appears that the French midfielder, who is represented by agent Mino Raiola, is heading to the Juventus Stadium.

The Old Lady have apparently offered the teenager a four-year deal which will see him net around £15,000 a week.

United will receive only around £300,000 from Juventus as “training compensation” – a fee which will be determined by FIFA.

United boss Sir Alex Ferguson is said to be unhappy with the departure of the teenager whom he signed in October 2009 from Le Havre in contentious circumstances.

The French club accused United of poaching the player, but United were given clearance to complete a move for him.
We were closely linked to him...

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Inzaghi considering Atalanta?
By Football Italia staff

Reports in Italy suggest Filippo Inzaghi is keen to play on for another season and might have already found a new club in the shape of Atalanta.

Inzaghi’s most prolific goalscoring season in Serie A came with the Bergamo outfit in 1996-97, when he netted a club record 24 goals to finish as Capocannoniere. Some 15 years on and now aged 38, Inzaghi is being linked with a return to the Orobici in the summer.

Sky Sport Italia are running the line that the veteran, who has barely featured in the past two seasons at Milan under Coach Massimiliano Allegri, is keen to play on for another year and may have already held initial talks with the Nerazzurri’s President Antonio Percassi.

It would be fun to see him play next year, so long as it's not with us...

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Ogbonna to replace Nesta at Milan?
By Football Italia staff

Milan will target Angelo Ogbonna should they decide to part company with veteran centre-back Alessandro Nesta.

The latter, who will be 36 next month, will be out of contract in the summer and it is unclear at this stage whether he will be offered a new deal.

Should the former Lazio captain leave the Stadio Giuseppe Meazza, then Milan will ask Torino about the availability of Ogbonna.

The 23-year-old started his first game for Italy last week, in the 1-0 defeat against America, despite playing his football in Serie B.

Ogbonna signed a new contract with Toro until June 2016 earlier this season.

Clubs such as Napoli, Benfica, Arsenal and Juventus have been paired with the versatile stopper in the past.

A report in Tuttosport earlier this week also suggested that Nesta could be targeted by Juventus should he become available on a free transfer.

I would hate if Juve took Nesta...but this is an interesting scenario none-the-less
Fillipo Simone
I don't think seeing Nesta at Juventus is a possibility.
Jack Sparrow
Unless the rumours of a fallout with Max Allegri are true...but I don't believe it.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Mar 7 2012, 05:32 PM) *
Unless the rumours of a fallout with Max Allegri are true...but I don't believe it.

Lazio I believe would be his ideal return.
Jack Sparrow
Haha...it's not the Lazio of old. And if I'm not wrong the Laziale have booed him when he is in our colours. So...
Jack Bauer
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Mar 7 2012, 08:32 PM) *
Unless the rumours of a fallout with Max Allegri are true...but I don't believe it.

Of course they are nout true, that was just groundless gossip story. They claimed that he's healthy while it was confirmed that he's injured.
X-Offender
Nesta said he wants to end his career at Milan, so no need to argue anymore further. As for Ogbonna, it would be a great signing. He was the most impressive azzurro against USA last week.
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 7 2012, 06:45 PM) *
Nesta said he wants to end his career at Milan, so no need to argue anymore further. As for Ogbonna, it would be a great signing. He was the most impressive azzurro against USA last week.

Agreed. Remove Yepes from the team, sign Ogbonna and give Nesta another 1 year deal. Him and VB are the only ones worth keeping.

That would give us a top class central defensive line
acid911
QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 7 2012, 11:01 PM) *
Remove Yepes from the team, sign Ogbonna and give Nesta another 1 year deal. Him and VB are the only ones worth keeping.

Quick, somebody please mail this to Galliani. cool.gif innocent.gif If Nesta and Bommel aren't there at the end of the season, I am going to have a sad face. And if anyone else is there, I'm going to have an even sadder face. It's high time we shake hands with our senior players, and say goodbye.
Jack Bauer
QUOTE (acid911 @ Mar 7 2012, 09:07 PM) *
Quick, somebody please mail this to Galliani. cool.gif innocent.gif If Nesta and Bommel aren't there at the end of the season, I am going to have a sad face. And if anyone else is there, I'm going to have an even sadder face. It's high time we shake hands with our senior players, and say goodbye.

We said the same thing last year and the year before that... biggrin.gif
han2503
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Mar 7 2012, 07:09 PM) *
We said the same thing last year and the year before that... biggrin.gif

So it seems dry.gif

But realistically speaking here. What's the point of keeping them on? They're getting some of the highest wages in the team and they're injured for the majority of the season, or in Ambro's case, doing decent in one game and messing up in another.

It's just not worth it anymore. And also there are rumours that Rino is doing the B coaching licence course or something along that line.
Jack Bauer
You are preaching to the choir. I agree, we should only keep MvB and Nesta but I'm not sure Galliani thinking the same.
Fillipo Simone
I won't discuss this issue further, other then saying:

- part with Bonera if a new CB is in
- keep Yepes for another year
- part with Gattuso, or keep him at minimum salary
- part with Flamini
- keep Nesta at any cost
- keep Pippo if Allegri accepts to give him little more time as a bonus in crisis situations
- keep Ambrosini as team captain with a reduced salary
- keep van Bommel for yet another year

I'm undecided with Seedorf. If we miss a new creative midfielder again, then keep him. Never mind this Montolivo guy.
acid911
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Mar 7 2012, 11:09 PM) *
We said the same thing last year and the year before that...

I know man. laugh.gif tongue.gif I was typing this and thinking, hey, I've already typed this exact sentence for at least 2-3 years running now. Unfortunately for some, and fortunately for others, we let go of the wrong guy last year (Pirlo), and kept the wrong one (Seedorf). And worse still, we practically gift-wrapped him to Juventus our direct rival.

This year, who knows, a couple more seniors may set sail. The amount they're earning, they just may.
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 7 2012, 07:20 PM) *
I won't discuss this issue further, other then saying:

- part with Bonera if a new CB is in
- keep Yepes for another year
- part with Gattuso, or keep him at minimum salary
- part with Flamini
- keep Nesta at any cost
- keep Pippo if Allegri accepts to give him little more time as a bonus in crisis situations
- keep Ambrosini as team captain with a reduced salary
- keep van Bommel for yet another year

I'm undecided with Seedorf. If we miss a new creative midfielder again, then keep him. Never mind this Montolivo guy.


- Don't think it's wise to sell Bonera and keep Yepes in such a scenario, you said this yourself, Bonera is a versatile player, and if someone like Ogbonna does come in than it wouldn't be much of a worry, Yepes is old and just spent an entire season out, don't know what keeping him would benefit us at this point
- Read above
- Part with him, no point keeping him after this season.
- Keep him at minimum salary
- Agreed
- No point in keeping Pippo. Again he's not going to be playing so what's the point.
- Please do not re-sign this guy, Abbiati is a good enough captain, it's not like he's a Maldini level leader. Ambro was never fit to be a captain to begin with
- Agreed
Jack Sparrow
Am I the only one who read the Allegri interview where he said he relies on Rino Gattusso in the dressing room? unsure.gif
han2503
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Mar 7 2012, 07:44 PM) *
Am I the only one who read the Allegri interview where he said he relies on Rino Gattusso in the dressing room? unsure.gif

Then he should be given a back room position. No point in keeping him on as a player though
Jack Bauer
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Mar 7 2012, 10:44 PM) *
Am I the only one who read the Allegri interview where he said he relies on Rino Gattusso in the dressing room? unsure.gif

“For me in every team there are two leaders. One technical and tactical leader and one with character. In Milan our technical leader is Zlatan Ibrahimovic. In terms of character, until last year, it was Rino Gattuso. Now Mark Van Bommel or Thiago Silva.”
Jack Sparrow
Ah Silva. Phew!!!
Jack Bauer
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Arsenal striker Robin Van Persie would consider a move to Milan at the end of the season, his agents have admitted.

The Dutch international has been heavily linked with a switch to San Siro given that he’s only contracted to the Gunners until June 2013.

“Milan want Van Persie? Good! We can talk about it,” Jeroen Hoogewerf told TMW on Thursday afternoon.

Van Persie has grabbed 32 goals for the Gunners this season and he won’t discuss a new contract in London until the campaign comes to an end.

“We would prefer not to talk about his contract and we have nothing to add about that,” Cornelis Vos, his other representative, told TMW as well.

Milan will face some competition from Manchester City, amongst other clubs, if they do make a bid for the player.

It’s understood that Zlatan Ibrahimovic would prefer playing alongside Van Persie next term, rather than the also linked Manchester City pair of Carlos Tevez and Mario Balotelli.

http://www.football-italia.net/node/16458
han2503
Looks to me like an agent trying to force Arsenal into upping the contract offer
Fillipo Simone
Maybe, maybe not. I've seen Bommel whispering something into Persie's ear at the end of our CL clash with Arsenal. I'd speculate he told him something like, "I'm waiting for you pal..."

But back to reality - well, the link exists for quite some time. Maybe it's more then just the usual agent BS.
Jack Sparrow
Why does he have two reps? unsure.gif
acid911
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Mar 9 2012, 01:42 PM) *
Why does he have two reps?

Because he's too cool to have just one! cool.gif Gives new meaning to the word double agent.
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 8 2012, 11:48 PM) *
Maybe, maybe not. I've seen Bommel whispering something into Persie's ear at the end of our CL clash with Arsenal. I'd speculate he told him something like, "I'm waiting for you pal..."

But back to reality - well, the link exists for quite some time. Maybe it's more then just the usual agent BS.

I personally don't think we can afford to keep Ibra while also paying the huge salary RvP would demand. We'd probably have to pay them equivelent salaries. I don't think we could cope with it, even if we do manage to offload some of the big earners in our team (Seedorf, Ambro, Rino, Flamini, Zambro)

I think best we could do at this point would be Tevez, even if they decide to give Pato some more time. I believe they'll go after Tevez full force this summer.

Even if logically speaking a midfielder should be top priority
X-Offender
According to Il Corriere dell Sport, Ibra wants Real Madrid.

Here we go again. rolleyes.gif
d'Arc.LP
RAIOLA: "Ibra to Madrid? I'm a serious agent, I wont be answering stupid rumors, Leave me alone"
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Mar 9 2012, 10:20 AM) *
RAIOLA: "Ibra to Madrid? I'm a serious agent, I wont be answering stupid rumors, Leave me alone"

laugh.gif
Fillipo Simone
German media convinced Podolski will be a Arsenal player next season. Well, that makes RvP a bit more reachable. But still don't think his legs and MilanLab will make a good mach.
X-Offender
Van Persie will sign for City as they'll offer him €12 million per season.

Link

I'd rather get Tevez, honestly. He adapts perfectly to Allegri's system. A fast, versatile player and a high working rate.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 11 2012, 03:51 PM) *
Van Persie will sign for City as they'll offer him €12 million per season.

Link

I'd rather get Tevez, honestly. He adapts perfectly to Allegri's system. A fast, versatile player and a high working rate.


Tevez would suit us well, Persie would be a Pato v2 at this rate.
il_diavolo_mtl
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AC Milan have reached an agreement in principle with Cagliari to sign defender Davide Astori at the end of the season, reports Tuttosport.

According to the newspaper, a fee of €7 million has reportedly been sanctioned by Cagliari president Massimo Cellino, while youngsters Rodney Strasser, Rodrigo Ely and Simone Romagnoli could head in the opposite direction as part of the deal.
A contract extension for Alessandro Nesta is also becoming an increasingly complex procedure, as the champions have doubts over his long-term durability at the highest level.

With Juventus also understood to be showing more than just a passing interest in the veteran defender, vice-president Adriano Galliani and sporting director Ariedo Braida have since identified his potential successor in Astori.

A former Milan youth player, Astori left San Siro to join Cagliari in 2008 and has since flourished into an Italy international, having formed impressive defensive partnerships with the likes of Michele Canini and Leandro Ariaudo.

He is also well-acquainted with current Rossoneri boss Massimiliano Allegri, having overseen arguably his best season to date during 2009-10 at the Sardinian club.

Meanwhile, if a move for Astori breaks down, Palermo's Matias Silvestre and Vasco da Gama's Dede are next on Galliani's summer shopping list. Fiorentina stopper Cesare Natali is also being primed to join Milan as a replacement for Mario Yepes.
X-Offender
I don't like him, never have.
il_diavolo_mtl
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 15 2012, 02:49 PM) *
I don't like him, never have.

he's not that bad, of that list, I'd jump at Silvestre, perhaps one of the most underrated defenders in Serie A..
han2503
7m??

He's a free agent this summer, why would we pay any money or give them any of our players?

Anyway, I think it's a good move, Yepes clearly cannot be re-signed, he's just spent a season out injured. We need players who are reliable and are fit when we need them to fill in.

Although, with our medical team you can never say what will happen
Fillipo Simone
I wouldn't let go of Yepes just because he was injured. It happens almost on weekly basis, and it isn't his fault.

And I agree with X-O, never saw anything special in Astori.
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 15 2012, 08:25 PM) *
I wouldn't let go of Yepes just because he was injured. It happens almost on weekly basis, and it isn't his fault.

And I agree with X-O, never saw anything special in Astori.

Yepes will be a year older next season and the only time he's played this season he made a mess of things.

Astori is a decent CB, especially for a 5th choice option I think it would be a very good move. Bonera would still most likely be ahead of him in the pecking order.
Fillipo Simone
Naah, Yepes wasn't that bad. I'd still give him 1 more year, he seems to be a great team player as well. Kind of like him, don't know why; I'm usually much harsher when it comes to defenders.
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 15 2012, 09:50 PM) *
Naah, Yepes wasn't that bad. I'd still give him 1 more year, he seems to be a great team player as well. Kind of like him, don't know why; I'm usually much harsher when it comes to defenders.

This is what we keep saying every year! "I'd give him another year", "He deserves another year", etc, etc. The rolling contract rule has been put forth for a reason, and this is why. Your performance as well as contribution in a season be will assesed, and based on that only should an extension be considered. None of our players aside from 2 have done what it takes to earn another extension. It's getting ridiculous. We let Pirlo go because of this issue, yet the reason why such a system is adapted is completely being ignored so we can keep these players on our roster who either spend months out or months making mistakes on the pitch.

Yepes, Zambro, Ambro, Rino and Pippo should be let go. Offer backroom positions for those who want to continue at the club, but other than that none of them have anything left to give to this club as players.
acid911
QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 16 2012, 02:03 AM) *
Yepes, Zambro, Ambro, Rino and Pippo should be let go.

You forgot Seedorf. unsure.gif sleep.gif Personally, I'd just about keep Yepes, at bare minimum retainer, but rest I agree.
X-Offender
QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 15 2012, 08:10 PM) *
He's a free agent this summer, why would we pay any money or give them any of our players?


Our player? Cagliari acquired Astori's full ownership last summer. But yeah, his contract expires this summer, so I don't really get the article.

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 15 2012, 10:03 PM) *
This is what we keep saying every year! "I'd give him another year", "He deserves another year", etc, etc. The rolling contract rule has been put forth for a reason, and this is why. Your performance as well as contribution in a season be will assesed, and based on that only should an extension be considered. None of our players aside from 2 have done what it takes to earn another extension. It's getting ridiculous. We let Pirlo go because of this issue, yet the reason why such a system is adapted is completely being ignored so we can keep these players on our roster who either spend months out or months making mistakes on the pitch.

Yepes, Zambro, Ambro, Rino and Pippo should be let go. Offer backroom positions for those who want to continue at the club, but other than that none of them have anything left to give to this club as players.


Wiser words have never been spoken. 100% agreed.
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 15 2012, 10:31 PM) *
Our player? Cagliari acquired Astori's full ownership last summer. But yeah, his contract expires this summer, so I don't really get the article.



Wiser words have never been spoken. 100% agreed.

The article mentioned that we'd send Strasser, Ely, etc the other way
Fillipo Simone
No, not the renew-release talk again. Frankly, I don't care who'll be 3rd, 4th or 5th option, but if I had to pick between Pippo or a cheap newbie I'd stay with Pippo. Same with Zambro, Seedorf and Ambrosini. But if there is a quality replacement at sight, sure, let the veterans go, sign the prospect/classy player.
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 15 2012, 11:02 PM) *
No, not the renew-release talk again. Frankly, I don't care who'll be 3rd, 4th or 5th option, but if I had to pick between Pippo or a cheap newbie I'd stay with Pippo. Same with Zambro, Seedorf and Ambrosini. But if there is a quality replacement at sight, sure, let the veterans go, sign the prospect/classy player.

Why keep them?

Pippo is clearly not even considered as a peripheral option by Allegri. Why give him an extenstion to spend another season warming up and never coming on?

Zambrotta also, I am one who still beleives that he's a better defender than Antonini and Mesbah. But clearly there is a reason why he's not playing, a reason as to why Allegri will most likely switch Antonini to the right side next Saturday instead of going for the easier option and replacing Abate with Zambro. Why extend a contract for him to stay on the bench for another year? He's clearly not considered as a viable option.

Seedorf, usually the fittest person from the oldies, a player who rarely got injured has spent this season in and out of the treatment room. He can't even offer his contribution when our first choice creator is not available. Montolivo will be coming in this summer to provide cover for Aqui. Why renew with Seedorf when he's clearly not up to the task anymore?

Don't get me started on Ambro and his pea-brained decisions on the pitch. He's the reason why we have one foot out of the Coppa Italia to those dirty zebras. Sometimes when I watch him I wonder why he just doesn't pull on the shirt of our opponents in the first place.

Rino is a lost cause. They don't even know what they're doing with him and his issues. Add to that the fact that he's not getting any younger and hasn't played any football in months and I really don't see the logic in signing him on for another season.

Finally, we cannot forget that all of these players are on high wages. Galliani complains and complains about the players wages and how much of a financial strain they are on the club, yet we're keeping these guys who offer us nothing on the pitch for their ridiculously high wages. I mean most of them are on a better wage than Pato, Aqui, Nocerino, Abate, etc FFS!!

Renewing with them just does not make any sense
X-Offender
QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 15 2012, 11:02 PM) *
The article mentioned that we'd send Strasser, Ely, etc the other way


As part of the deal, yes, which would be insane.
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 15 2012, 11:13 PM) *
As part of the deal, yes, which would be insane.

Yeah, that's why I said our money and our players.

Astori would come for free. So I'd take him instead of Yepes.
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