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han2503
QUOTE (milanbuf88 @ Mar 1 2012, 07:26 PM) *
If it would allow him to play injury free for a year I'd let Pato go to Brasil until August.

For pato the first order of treatment would be to get an outside consultation from a top specialist. The quacks at Milanello are certainly not doing any good, in fact they're making it even worse. At least last season he'd stay fit for a month or 2 before getting injured again.

And even when they said he was fit again this season he wasn't as Allegri kept holding him back from playing saying he did not want to risk him, so obviously he was never 100%
X-Offender
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Mar 1 2012, 03:37 PM) *
You wanted him in January right?

You've probably read the news about his bold declarations that he only needed '2 weeks' in training to be back to his best...and how one match with the reserves and the club decided he's nowhere close to being fit for premier league football.

For me there's a big difference between a bad boy who's just over-passionate about his game like Cassano, Rino or even Ibra vs. someone who thinks he is above his manager's decisions and knows best when he needs to do what.

Inzaghi is being treated like **** when told to warm up with 10 minutes left in the game. But before he is a 'champion' he is a professional. He suits up and does as his coach requires.

I cannot tolerate a professional not listening to his coach, no matter how bad the coach is.


You're all exaggerating on this Tevez thing IMO. Everyone would want a champion like him in their team. So he has a little of an attitude problem. So did Boateng, Robinho, Ibrahimovic, Cassano etc. when they joined us, yet I don't remember any of them causing any fuss in that regard. Heck, we have the biggest narcissist in our team that makes Tevez look like small fry, yet he's been a blessing for us. Yes, I'm talking about Ibra. Your mistake is that you're not considering the environmental differences between City and Milan. Robinho had pretty much the same issue Tevez had at City, but has he ever created any problem since his arrival at Milan? No. He's been an angel if anything else. Tevez is a hard worker, and he would thrive in a team like Milan.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 1 2012, 10:31 PM) *
You're all exaggerating on this Tevez thing IMO. Everyone would want a champion like him in their team. So he has a little of an attitude problem. So did Boateng, Robinho, Ibrahimovic, Cassano etc. when they joined us, yet I don't remember any of them causing any fuss in that regard. Heck, we have the biggest narcissist in our team that makes Tevez look like small fry, yet he's been a blessing for us. Yes, I'm talking about Ibra. Your mistake is that you're not considering the environmental differences between City and Milan. Robinho had pretty much the same issue Tevez had at City, but has he ever created any problem since his arrival at Milan? No. He's been an angel if anything else. Tevez is a hard worker, and he would thrive in a team like Milan.

So that's your argument? We have even bigger narcissists and troublemakers? Don't you think that enough is enough? My heart is really bleeding from the inside every time I remember I must cheer for this violent egomaniac. Players like Boateng, Mexes or even van Bommel, to whom I used to refer as simple thugs nowadays rule in Milan; class, something we had for more then 25 years is rarely seen nowadays. So why not one more problem maker. Or make it two - take Balo.

Well, not with me.
X-Offender
^ No, my argument is that troublemakers at Milan always settle down.
acid911
QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 2 2012, 01:09 AM) *
For pato the first order of treatment would be to get an outside consultation from a top specialist. The quacks at Milanello are certainly not doing any good, in fact they're making it even worse. At least last season he'd stay fit for a month or 2 before getting injured again.

Totally agreed. smile.gif This has already gotten out of hands, ages ago!

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 2 2012, 02:31 AM) *
Tevez is a hard worker, and he would thrive in a team like Milan.

On the flip side, he could be the match that lights up the flame, and kabooom! wink.gif Point is, you never know!
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 1 2012, 09:31 PM) *
Robinho had pretty much the same issue Tevez had at City

Not really. I may be incorrect, but I believe Robinho's last game at City was away to Scunthorpe. It was a freezing cold game against a small opposition and City had pretty much already confirmed he'd be leaving. Did he tell City to screw themselves because he was already leaving? Nope, he got on with his job and played the game.

I really haven't seen many situations like the one with Tevez, which is why I have zero respect for him.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 2 2012, 01:41 AM) *
^ No, my argument is that troublemakers at Milan always settle down.

I still see them as an accident waiting to happen. Last season we ended up Champions, so there were naturally no problems. But let's wait and see what happens if we stay trophy-less this season.

And well, I tend to agree with Kurt, zero respect is what he earned.
d'Arc.LP
De Laurentiis: “I wouldn’t even sell Cavani for €70m. I wouldn’t sell Lavezzi for €50m. Hamsik is also worth around €50m."

source: twitter/Milanello
han2503
QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Mar 3 2012, 10:44 AM) *
De Laurentiis: “I wouldn’t even sell Cavani for €70m. I wouldn’t sell Lavezzi for €50m. Hamsik is also worth around €50m."

source: twitter/Milanello

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He can keep them, they're not that good
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Mar 3 2012, 12:44 PM) *
De Laurentiis: “I wouldn’t even sell Cavani for €70m. I wouldn’t sell Lavezzi for €50m. Hamsik is also worth around €50m."

source: twitter/Milanello


Or free biggrin.gif
X-Offender
QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 3 2012, 10:56 AM) *
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He can keep them, they're not that good


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acid911
Yeah, I can see where Han is coming from, but still, Cavani is worth €70m easy. smile.gif He's the type of guy who you can build a CL winning team around. I mean for the amount a (relatively speaking) dud like Pastore went for, Cavani is twice as much. The remaining two are absolutely exaggerated figures, they're worth half that.

I mean that's his asking prices, even if a club does not pay these amounts, they'll still fetch quite a few coins!
X-Offender
QUOTE (acid911 @ Mar 3 2012, 02:09 PM) *
Yeah, I can see where Han is coming from, but still, Cavani is worth €70m easy. smile.gif He's the type of guy who you can build a CL winning team around. I mean for the amount a (relatively speaking) dud like Pastore went for, Cavani is twice as much. The remaining two are absolutely exaggerated figures, they're worth half that.

I mean that's his asking prices, even if a club does not pay these amounts, they'll still fetch quite a few coins!


Lavezzi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cavani

Seriously, I'm surprised you fail to see what an amazing player Lavezzi is and how important he is for Napoli. Napoli without Cavani are still a tough side, but Napoli without Lavezzi are a mediocre team. Easily the best player in Serie A after Ibra.

Anyway, that's my opinion. smile.gif
acid911
And it's not an unfair one. biggrin.gif I think of Cavani as more of a mercurial player, he can make things happen. Lavezzi is a hard working carbon unit, yes, but both are excellent, excellent players. Without doubt two of the reasons why Napoli is still in the CL, and why they got there in the first place.
William405
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 3 2012, 03:12 PM) *
Lavezzi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cavani

Seriously, I'm surprised you fail to see what an amazing player Lavezzi is and how important he is for Napoli. Napoli without Cavani are still a tough side, but Napoli without Lavezzi are a mediocre team. Easily the best player in Serie A after Ibra.

Anyway, that's my opinion. smile.gif


Agreed,Lavezzi has really stepped up this year,he was amazing before,but his final product lacked...this year he's proving to approach a world class level.Cavani is great,but when he is without any support,he will fail.But,give him one good ball,and he'll make things happen.
Zed.D
On his best day Lavezzi is definitely better, but I think Cavani is the more consistent of the two. I've seen Lavezzi disappear in games many times.
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 3 2012, 02:04 PM) *
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They're top class players no doubt. But never are they worth that much FFS.

Cavani especially. Lavezzi is great if not better tha Cavani, but still not worth that much.

De Laurentis must be on something. Clearly trying to scare top clubs away from his best assets.
kurtsimonw
A player is worth whatever the selling club thinks he's worth though really.
Jack Bauer
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Milan are thought to be hatching a plan to bring in Arsenal’s Robin van Persie involving Alexandre Pato and Lukas Podolski.

According to reports in the Italian media, van Persie is the number one transfer target for the summer and the Gunners may well be forced to sell if they fail to qualify for the Champions League next season.

It is rumoured that the Rossoneri are ready to sell Pato to Paris Saint-Germain for around €35m – a sum that was initially rejected in January – in order to raise funds for this move.

In turn, Arsenal have already got their sights set on van Persie’s replacement, FC Köln and Germany striker Podolski.

The London club face Milan in the second leg of their Champions League Round of 16 tie on Tuesday evening.

The first leg ended 4-0 at San Siro, but today Arsenal fought back to beat Liverpool 2-1 at Anfield. Mikel Arteta was stretchered off with concussion and is therefore unlikely to feature next week.

http://www.football-italia.net/node/16278

That would be awesome.
CrazyMilanFan
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Mar 3 2012, 06:31 PM) *
That would be awesome.

our medical staff and RVP unsure.gif
Jack Bauer
He seems to overcome his injury problems and fulfilling his big potential this season.
han2503
I think RvP will stay on at Arsenal 100% if they're in the CL next season. And atm, that is looking likely.

Plus why would Arsenal want to go from RvP to Podolski FFS??

I think that if we do sell Pato, than Tevez would be our only realistic option for a top, top striker (because no one else would want him, wonder why rolleyes.gif)
Jack Bauer
I can see him leaving even if the qualify for CL. Maybe not to Milan because Arsenal gonna ask a very high sum, but he's playing there for a long time (seven years), he's not getting any younger (28 y.o already) and he's not going to win something there anytime soon.
han2503
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Mar 3 2012, 10:49 PM) *
I can see him leaving even if the qualify for CL. Maybe not to Milan because Arsenal gonna ask a very high sum, but he's playing there for a long time (seven years), he's not getting any younger (28 y.o already) and he's not going to win something there anytime soon.

Most of those years were spent out injured. Arsenal stuck by him throughout those years, it would be highly sh!tty of him to jump ship now after all they've done for him
Jack Bauer
Maybe, but loyalty is hard to find these days. He'll be 29 this summer and like all big players, I'm sure he wants to win trophies and have a real chance in the CL. This Arsenal can't provide him that.
han2503
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Mar 3 2012, 11:19 PM) *
Maybe, but loyalty is hard to find these days. He'll be 29 this summer and like all big players, I'm sure he wants to win trophies and have a real chance in the CL. This Arsenal can't provide him that.

If he does go it would be to one of the Spanish clubs, certainly not Milan.

I personally don't believe we'll sell Pato this summer. Atm my biggest worry is not selling him, but who would replace him, as the only option for us would be the desperate Carlitos...
Jack Bauer
I think we'll sell Pato, seeems like there's much frustration about all these injuries. It'll be best for both sides as I think Pato needs a fresh start.

Still early, you never know who'll become available in the summer. Two years ago at this point we couldn't even dream about Zlatan.
X-Offender
According to Paolo Bargiggia, which I consider the best calciomercato specialist in Italy, Galliani has a verbal agreement with Tevez and we'll make an offer to City this summer, also including a tentative to sign Kolarov. We'll get our money from Pato's sale, which Berlusconi has finally agreed upon.

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han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 3 2012, 11:30 PM) *
According to Paolo Bargiggia, which I consider the best calciomercato specialist in Italy, Galliani has a verbal agreement with Tevez and we'll make an offer to City this summer, also including a tentative to sign Kolarov. We'll get our money from Pato's sale, which Berlusconi has finally agreed upon.

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2 @-holes in one. Lovely.

We'll see. If we sell Pato to get Tevez I believe it will be one of the bigger mistakes that Galliani has accomplished throughout his years, and there were some stinkers...
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 3 2012, 11:32 PM) *
2 @-holes in one. Lovely.

We'll see. If we sell Pato to get Tevez I believe it will be one of the bigger mistakes that Galliani has accomplished throughout his years, and there were some stinkers...

Agreed.
Zed.D
I was pissed off when Kolarov went to City as he was a player we could've used. now that it seems Pato is certain to go, I hope we at least get something in return we greatly miss, a quality LB.
Bluesummers
I would love kolarov. He'd be a better signing than tevez imo.
X-Offender
Who's the starting LB at City?
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 4 2012, 03:48 PM) *
Who's the starting LB at City?

They alternate between Kolarov and Clichy
Fillipo Simone
I wouldn't say Kolarov is better/would be more necessary then Tevez. That's too far for me.
X-Offender
I'd personally go for Armero than Kolarov.
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 4 2012, 05:42 PM) *
I'd personally go for Armero than Kolarov.

Udine would want an arm and a leg for him.

If we could somehow get him off City with Tevez at a decent deal than you can't really fault that.
Fillipo Simone
Would they? Same was mentioned about Zapata and some other players who in the end left with little fuss. I think everybody but Handanović and di Natale there are for sale at the right price.
X-Offender
Yeah. Only Sanchez was the lucrative sale. Everyone else is very affordable. Inler and Zapata were sold for about €12 million each. Armero, Asamoah etc. are said to cost around the €15 million mark, if not less.
Rossoneri7
Pato being sold for Tevez, a win win deal if you ask me:
Pato was different under Carlo and Leo, he was growing. Under Allegri, he had to force his way through Ibra and Robinho (who have proved worthy of their first team status. The injuries of course factors in.. All in all Pato was different under Carlo.
Tevez will get his chance to regain his fitness and prove how good he is. This deal reminds me of Russian roulette.

Aside with all the negative in Tevez's career, he is an excellent football player who will be humbled by our trophy room.


I miss Sheva sad.gif
X-Offender
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Mar 4 2012, 09:23 PM) *
Aside with all the negative in Tevez's career, he is an excellent football player who will be humbled by our trophy room.


Finally someone saying it right.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 4 2012, 09:34 PM) *
Finally someone saying it right.

Right or your way?
X-Offender
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 4 2012, 09:51 PM) *
Right or your way?


Right.
kurtsimonw
Tevez was a **** at United. Their trophy room is hardly empty!
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Mar 5 2012, 12:10 AM) *
Tevez was a **** at United. Their trophy room is hardly empty!


Tevez was an exceptional player for United, especially in helping to achieve European glory. Albeit they had CR and Rooney, Tevez was still an integral part of that team.

However, I do understand and concur that he is a ****. Yet as a footballer, he is one of the best.
acid911
Ah, you mean to say one of the best ***** around. happy.gif This I can agree with!
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (acid911 @ Mar 5 2012, 09:14 AM) *
Ah, you mean to say one of the best ***** around. happy.gif This I can agree with!


Watch it! We might have a fan boy in the making on this forum 96.gif
acid911
I wonder who that is?! unsure.gif innocent.gif You or X-Off? Me personally, I think he's a pretty good player, the sort of which I like seeing at other teams. Same is the case with Balotelli. If he comes, he comes. But if we can find someone better, then I'd take the other option.

Having said that, Tevez is the sort of player a coach like Allegri would snap in a heartbeat. Or less.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Mar 5 2012, 06:04 AM) *
Tevez was an exceptional player for United, especially in helping to achieve European glory. Albeit they had CR and Rooney, Tevez was still an integral part of that team.

However, I do understand and concur that he is a ****. Yet as a footballer, he is one of the best.

His 2nd season was pretty awful. Then he starting crying to the media about how he wants to stay at United. So what does he do? Joins City when United offer him a contact. Tevez has shown his true colours and he's by far worse than Ibra and Balo combined. But at least they play by the rules.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Mar 5 2012, 10:02 AM) *
His 2nd season was pretty awful. Then he starting crying to the media about how he wants to stay at United. So what does he do? Joins City when United offer him a contact. Tevez has shown his true colours and he's by far worse than Ibra and Balo combined. But at least they play by the rules.


No doubt, but that doesn't undermine his delivery on the field of play. Which frankly speaking is what should have the upper hand in this argument. Otherwise he should get crucified innocent.gif
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