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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 22 2012, 04:28 PM) *
Who the hell is Pogba?


Some ManU prospect. We already have Strasser in that role.
d'Arc.LP
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 22 2012, 04:31 PM) *
Some ManU prospect. We already have Strasser in that role.


Pogba >> Strasser
X-Offender
QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Feb 22 2012, 04:51 PM) *
Pogba >> Strasser


Have you seen him play?
d'Arc.LP
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 22 2012, 04:53 PM) *
Have you seen him play?


Not much, but yes, more than I've seen Strasser play. He's very good physically and would be the perfect replacement for van Bommel.
il_diavolo_mtl
QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Feb 22 2012, 11:02 AM) *
Not much, but yes, more than I've seen Strasser play. He's very good physically and would be the perfect replacement for van Bommel.

considering how hard it is for EPL players to ajust to Serie A, i would put them on par with each other. That being said Pogba is pretty much signing for inter who have been courting him for the past year...
han2503
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Feb 23 2012, 07:09 AM) *
considering how hard it is for EPL players to ajust to Serie A, i would put them on par with each other. That being said Pogba is pretty much signing for inter who have been courting him for the past year...

If he's that good, why would Man U let him go? It's not like they have a stellar midfield...
il_diavolo_mtl
QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 23 2012, 04:23 AM) *
If he's that good, why would Man U let him go? It's not like they have a stellar midfield...

His contract is up and he's keen on testing the market
X-Offender
Raiola: "There's the intention from van Bommel to continue his relationship with Milan. Only if the club doesn't wish so, or if personal issues arise might influence his staying".

Link
Zed.D
I'd happily keep MvB. I can't even begin to describe how important he is for us but you all know that anyway.
han2503
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 27 2012, 04:51 PM) *
I'd happily keep MvB. I can't even begin to describe how important he is for us but you all know that anyway.

Agreed.

Him and Nesta should be offered a contract today before tomorrow imo. The others need to be let go, simple as.
Jack Bauer
Sportmediaset: Milan are after Pablo Armero of Udinese. His price tag is around 15m.
X-Offender
Do we really need him? We have Nocerino, Muntari and Emanuelson that can play as LCM. I'd rather spend those money on somebody else.
Jack Bauer
He can also play LB.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Feb 27 2012, 08:42 PM) *
He can also play LB.


I don't think we want to sign him for LB.
il_diavolo_mtl
He is Serie A's Best LB imo. He does play a weird role at Udinese but he can play very well in a back four (seen him for Colombia)
X-Offender
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Feb 27 2012, 09:27 PM) *
He is Serie A's Best LB imo. He does play a weird role at Udinese but he can play very well in a back four (seen him for Colombia)


Well, I didn't know his natural position was LB. In that case, he'd be great. Though I'm still of the opinion that we should try Emanuelson there first for a couple of games.
han2503
His end product is terrible imo. Sure he'll run himself into the ground every game and create dangerous situations but his final ball is always lacking
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 27 2012, 09:52 PM) *
His end product is terrible imo. Sure he'll run himself into the ground every game and create dangerous situations but his final ball is always lacking

And that's something he could perfect at Milan. Unlike Antonini or Mesbah, he has the potential to become better in that aspect if you ask me.

As for trying out Emanuelson for Milan at LB...it didn't exactly work for Ajax, I'm very certain it wouldn't for Milan too. I'd rather we sign Armero.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 28 2012, 02:54 AM) *
As for trying out Emanuelson for Milan at LB...it didn't exactly work for Ajax, I'm very certain it wouldn't for Milan too. I'd rather we sign Armero.


Though trying him out first before jumping to conclusions would only be fair.
Zed.D
I like Urby is his current role and he's been steadily improving so I'd rather we signed a proper, great (preferably world class) LB who can cross the damn ball and take decent shots at goal too! I swear you could count Antonini and Abate's crosses that ended up somewhere in the box on one hand the other day, and don't even get me started on the accuracy and decency of their shots (or the lack thereof). we think they're doing a good enough job, but they really are not. we'll only realize how average they are once we have a Cafu and a Sergio on the flanks again.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 28 2012, 04:33 AM) *
Though trying him out first before jumping to conclusions would only be fair.

Yes, it would be fair.
il_diavolo_mtl
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 27 2012, 08:54 PM) *
And that's something he could perfect at Milan. Unlike Antonini or Mesbah, he has the potential to become better in that aspect if you ask me.

As for trying out Emanuelson for Milan at LB...it didn't exactly work for Ajax, I'm very certain it wouldn't for Milan too. I'd rather we sign Armero.

+1

Armero almost single-handedly eliminated Arsenal from the CL. On arguably his biggest stage, he showed up in a big way. Imagine us turning our weakest point into one of our strongest. He is stupid good and i'm surprised he hasn't generated more interest. Serie A's premier LB would suit us well smile.gif
il_diavolo_mtl
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Juventus and AC Milan have both reportedly sent representatives to watch Fabian Monzon line out for Argentina against Switzerland on Wednesday night, according to Tuttosport.

Bianconeri director Beppe Marotta has apparently made the trip from Geneva - where he took in Brazil's friendly with Bosnia & Herzegovina on Tuesday evening - to Bern in order to watch the Nice defender in action.

The paper also claims that Milan sporting director Ariedo Braida could also be in attendance at the Wankdorf Stadium.

The Rossoneri are said to be keen to sign a new left-back in the summer and have also been heavily linked with Udinese's Pablo Armero.

Monzon would represent a less-expensive alternative but Scudetto rivals Juve are also keen on the player, with Italy centre-half Giorgio Chiellini having had to fill in on the left-hand side of the Bianconeri defence at times this season.

The 24-year-old Monzon, who has been capped seven times by his country, joined Nice from Boca Juniors last year.
milanbuf88
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Feb 28 2012, 08:12 AM) *
+1

Armero almost single-handedly eliminated Arsenal from the CL. On arguably his biggest stage, he showed up in a big way. Imagine us turning our weakest point into one of our strongest. He is stupid good and i'm surprised he hasn't generated more interest. Serie A's premier LB would suit us well smile.gif


Armero has really impressed me and he could defintely be the LB we've been looking for. My only concern is the price tag. If we spend 15m on him then we are unlikely to make any other big purchases. The rest of the transfers in will be Galliani's favorite frees. At the same time this might work out really well. If all of our players are healthy we are pretty well covered all over. Muntari can be kept and Montolivo will be brought in along with probably a free defender. Some of the old guard will be let go and we will have healthy Strasser and Merkel to back up in the midfield. Armero could be the final piece to the puzzle. That and a couple super doctors to keep our players healthy haha.
X-Offender
Natali as fifth choice CB for free, Armero for €15 million, Keita for free, Montolivo for free, Tevez with the money from Pato's sale.

STARTING LINE-UP

Abbiati
Abate - Mexes - T. Silva - Armero
Aquilani - Keita - Nocerino
Boateng
Tevez - Ibrahimovic

SUB LINE-UP

Amelia
Antonini - Nesta - Bonera - Mesbah
Montolivo - Van Bommel - Muntari
Emanuelson/Merkel
Robinho - Cassano

OTHERS

Roma
Natali
De Sciglio
Strasser
El Shaarawy


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Fillipo Simone
Well, for some reason Antonini never plays RB, even Bonera is preferred in that position over him. Secondly, I don't think we're gonna sell Pato for Tevez. And thirdly, I don't think we're gonna release every senator we have other then Nesta.
milanbuf88
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 29 2012, 11:54 AM) *
Natali as fifth choice CB for free, Armero for €15 million, Keita for free, Montolivo for free, Tevez with the money from Pato's sale.

STARTING LINE-UP

Abbiati
Abate - Mexes - T. Silva - Armero
Aquilani - Keita - Nocerino
Boateng
Tevez - Ibrahimovic

SUB LINE-UP

Amelia
Antonini - Nesta - Bonera - Mesbah
Montolivo - Van Bommel - Muntari
Emanuelson/Merkel
Robinho - Cassano

OTHERS

Roma
Natali
De Sciglio
Strasser
El Shaarawy


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Watch out, Zed is going to scalp you for mentioning selling Pato and Kurt will gut you for bringing in Tevez laugh.gif . Seriously though, those are two really really good line ups. If the new comers gel I think.we can challenge very well on all three fronts.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 29 2012, 07:06 PM) *
Well, for some reason Antonini never plays RB, even Bonera is preferred in that position over him. Secondly, I don't think we're gonna sell Pato for Tevez. And thirdly, I don't think we're gonna release every senator we have other then Nesta.


1) That's true; 2) I think Pato and Milan have already parted their ways, unless something extraordinary happens and the duck starts performing again; 3) Inzaghi, Ambrosini and Zambrotta will probably be let go, unsure about Gattuso and Seedorf. Nesta should and will stay.
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 29 2012, 08:22 PM) *
1) That's true; 2) I think Pato and Milan have already parted their ways, unless something extraordinary happens and the duck starts performing again; 3) Inzaghi, Ambrosini and Zambrotta will probably be let go, unsure about Gattuso and Seedorf. Nesta should and will stay.

2) I think that's just what you like to believe wink.gif
X-Offender
I read Milan related articles from Italian sources every day, so I've sort formed an opinion about what Pato's future will be.
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 29 2012, 09:52 PM) *
I read Milan related articles from Italian sources every day, so I've sort formed an opinion about what Pato's future will be.

Doesn't mean they're correct, or that your oppinion is right for that matter.

You're way too into this Tevez thing, thus your wish for the club to throw Pato under the bus for the first decent offer that comes
X-Offender
QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 29 2012, 10:05 PM) *
Doesn't mean they're correct, or that your oppinion is right for that matter.


I didn't assume so.
il_diavolo_mtl
Dub me a pessimist but i think Pato's sale is a "balance the books" sale, if we spend half of what we receive for him, i'll be shocked...
d'Arc.LP


CORRIERE DELLO SPORT: "Bye bye Pato. He'll most likely leave. Balotelli, Tevez and Van Persie (Ibra's favorite)"
William405
Meh sleep.gif
han2503
QUOTE (William405 @ Mar 1 2012, 12:09 PM) *
Meh sleep.gif

Always CdS reporting this nonsense...

Anyway, if we do sell him I just really hope the management spend the money wisely.

And if he does go to another team, I'd bet his injury problems will disappear as quickly as they appeared around 2 seasons ago innocent.gif
Zed.D
Injuries aside, this was Pato's first truly bad season. sure, last season he got injured plenty, but he still ended up with 14 goals as much as Robinho and Ibra. I think if he'd managed to get those goals this season in spite of his injuries, we wouldn't be hearing about his possible sale this much. though the season is far from over, I can't see him hitting that sort of form. hell, I can't see him not getting injured every 2 weeks.

We'd be mad to sell an injury prone player only to get another one (RvP). between Tevez and Balotelli, I'd sign Balo.

QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Mar 1 2012, 04:38 AM) *
Dub me a pessimist but i think Pato's sale is a "balance the books" sale, if we spend half of what we receive for him, i'll be shocked...

+1.
QUOTE
And if he does go to another team, I'd bet his injury problems will disappear as quickly as they appeared around 2 seasons ago innocent.gif

That depends on the signing team. are PSG's medical staff qualified enough to solve his problem? I'm not sure...
d'Arc.LP
I'd swich Pato and Balotelli without even asking for more money.
X-Offender
Sportmediaset today also suggests that Pato will be sold. We'll mostly likely sign Tevez, although we're also eyeing Lecce's talent Muriel, owned by Udinese. He costs €10 million.

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Fillipo Simone
That would be just great... rolleyes.gif

All we need is another "talent" and the washed-out Tevez. If that's the best we can get, I'd keep the injury prone kid instead. I don't want Tevez anywhere near Milan, with or without Pato, and the though of selling Pato for this guy, who has - what - 2 or maybe 3 season left? That is, if he doesn't decide to go back premature to his home country while getting bored here. Ohhhh god, once it was Shevchenko, Rui Costa and Inzaghi, nowadays it's Ibrahimovic, Boateng and Tevez.

Add just Balo and we have a real-time freakshow.
X-Offender
Tevez will do wonders at Milan.
William405
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 1 2012, 03:16 PM) *
Tevez will do wonders at Milan.


Define Wonders.
X-Offender
QUOTE (William405 @ Mar 1 2012, 02:25 PM) *
Define Wonders.


To achieve spectacularly fine results.
Jack Sparrow
You wanted him in January right?

You've probably read the news about his bold declarations that he only needed '2 weeks' in training to be back to his best...and how one match with the reserves and the club decided he's nowhere close to being fit for premier league football.

For me there's a big difference between a bad boy who's just over-passionate about his game like Cassano, Rino or even Ibra vs. someone who thinks he is above his manager's decisions and knows best when he needs to do what.

Inzaghi is being treated like **** when told to warm up with 10 minutes left in the game. But before he is a 'champion' he is a professional. He suits up and does as his coach requires.

I cannot tolerate a professional not listening to his coach, no matter how bad the coach is.
milanbuf88
QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Mar 1 2012, 06:46 AM) *
I'd swich Pato and Balotelli without even asking for more money.


Yes yes yes. If we get rid of Pato I want Balotelli. He is an incredible talent he just needs the right home. He is absolutely crazy but I believe he's a kind soul at heart and he is super entertaining laugh.gif . One maybe two years with Ibra and Balotelli together for Balo to mature and improve then we can have a super star front line of Balotelli and El Sharaawy to lead us into the future.
il_diavolo_mtl
QUOTE (milanbuf88 @ Mar 1 2012, 10:27 AM) *
Yes yes yes. If we get rid of Pato I want Balotelli. He is an incredible talent he just needs the right home. He is absolutely crazy but I believe he's a kind soul at heart and he is super entertaining laugh.gif . One maybe two years with Ibra and Balotelli together for Balo to mature and improve then we can have a super star front line of Balotelli and El Sharaawy to lead us into the future.

he is quite that good, and i agree he has a good heart
han2503
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Mar 1 2012, 12:34 PM) *
Injuries aside, this was Pato's first truly bad season. sure, last season he got injured plenty, but he still ended up with 14 goals as much as Robinho and Ibra. I think if he'd managed to get those goals this season in spite of his injuries, we wouldn't be hearing about his possible sale this much. though the season is far from over, I can't see him hitting that sort of form. hell, I can't see him not getting injured every 2 weeks.

We'd be mad to sell an injury prone player only to get another one (RvP). between Tevez and Balotelli, I'd sign Balo.


+1.

That depends on the signing team. are PSG's medical staff qualified enough to solve his problem? I'm not sure...

I personally see Balo as someone who will come in when Ibra is no longer at Milan. City will not sell him now. We can't even affored their mis-fit, let alone a player they actually want to keep.

We should forget about him for the next xouple of years imo as it won't happen.

As for Pato, I believe it runs a lot deeper than just treating the injury, but actually figuring out what's causing it, as well as the training regiman that Pato takes on has to be suited. Non of which he has at Milan, which is such a shame considering that a few years ago, our medical department was regarded as the best in the sport. Now we can't even handle simply muscle problems, and not just with Pato. Boateng also has been having the re-curring problem, he's not coming under as much heat about it as Pato because this is his first season with such problems, while this is Pato's third. But I fear that is if the medical team situation is not fixed, than Pato will just be the first of many young players who will go through the same issue. Clearly there is a massive problem, and it goes beyond just one player

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Mar 1 2012, 03:37 PM) *
You wanted him in January right?

You've probably read the news about his bold declarations that he only needed '2 weeks' in training to be back to his best...and how one match with the reserves and the club decided he's nowhere close to being fit for premier league football.

For me there's a big difference between a bad boy who's just over-passionate about his game like Cassano, Rino or even Ibra vs. someone who thinks he is above his manager's decisions and knows best when he needs to do what.

Inzaghi is being treated like **** when told to warm up with 10 minutes left in the game. But before he is a 'champion' he is a professional. He suits up and does as his coach requires.

I cannot tolerate a professional not listening to his coach, no matter how bad the coach is.

100% with jacko
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 1 2012, 01:28 PM) *
To achieve spectacularly fine results.

For his bank balance?
d'Arc.LP
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Mar 1 2012, 06:04 PM) *
For his bank balance?


So he can pay taxes an then we get higher TV rights and more people in the Stadium.

Nah I'm kidding. I don't like Tevez too. If Pato is leaving, then I wish Balotelli can replace him. Otherwise we should give Pato a chance. Let him go to Brasil for a month, rest and get back fit.
milanbuf88
QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Mar 1 2012, 01:01 PM) *
So he can pay taxes an then we get higher TV rights and more people in the Stadium.

Nah I'm kidding. I don't like Tevez too. If Pato is leaving, then I wish Balotelli can replace him. Otherwise we should give Pato a chance. Let him go to Brasil for a month, rest and get back fit.


If it would allow him to play injury free for a year I'd let Pato go to Brasil until August.
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