You mean getting rid of the bad apple, right?

I don't think Ibra will go anywhere but if he wants to leave, Galliani should step aside and let him go, instead of offering him captaincy and that kind of sickening crap!

I remember RVP's injuries that lasted months on end season after the next, yet he is rated today as one of the finest Europe has to offer. Pato is young, a striker reaches his peak in his late 20s, so there is still time for him. Luckely for us we have Cassano and Robinho in the ranks.

Moreover, there could be another attacker coming in, Ibra is going to leave a hole behind him of 20+goals a season.

Haha yeah

Agreed, only his goals make me put up with him really.

I'd sell Ibra only if I knew we'd be signing Tevez or Balotelli to replace him.

That would bring us...where? From one egomaniac to another.

But Mario is a young, Italian, and ridiculously talented egomaniac . He will mature just like Cassano did. He has the tools to be incredible for the next decade if he can get his head right. He's a risk but one with great upside if it works out.

Balotelli isnt a 20+ goal forward though. If Ibra goes, and Pato doesnt pull a 180, than we are left with no prima punta. If Ibra goes I say go for Dzeko.

This would be much wiser, yes.

I don't remeber RvP's situation as serious as Pato's but even if so you can't really project because it's individual. Some can overcame it, some don't.
I love Pato, we all do and hope he can reach his so high potential, but it's very questionable at this point.

Well, everyone on here knows Pato's situation this season ... It is a gamble really.

Does it really matter? They're both quality players.

It matters to me

What is Adriano Galliani talking about?

Pippo talked about reconsidering his decision some time ago. This seems to be the confirmation.

But anyway, why would that be trouble? We won't sign any new forward, so he'd still be a backup of the backup's backup.

I don't really have a problem,he's super pippo . But,I doubt he'll return,I mean he wrote his letter goodbye,and all.Would love for him to stay though...at least he's not the kind of senators that is blocking our advancement.

A 38yo legend bids tearful farewells and then decides to stay as if nothing had happened in that farewell game. that'd be an uncomfortably awkward situation.

When you put it like this, maybe. But it isn't like that.

Isn't like that? please remember everything that happened at the Novara game and see if you can tell me "it isn't like that" again.

Pippo wouldn't get much chance to play, he should go somewhere else for his own sake. my problem isn't with him staying (unlike Seedorf), but the sole fact that the whole world saw him and his colleagues bid emotional farewells. let's say I don't want their judgments. my own Inter/Juve friends above all. we've already heard enough retirement home jokes and such.

What? Okay, here we go...


You took the convenient part, but forgot: tearful farewells and then decides to stay as if nothing had happened in that farewell game.

The underlined part just isn't truthful enough. Sure, when you present your case like this, it seems odd or even stupid. But again, it isn't like this. We all know he wanted to part ways in mid season, Galliani stopped him. He said farewell infront of the Milan tifosis and they shouted "stay"; then Galliani also tried and maybe persuaded him. What's the problem then?

let's say I don't want their judgments. my own Inter/Juve friends above all. we've already heard enough retirement home jokes and such.
Why should you care about anyone's judgments, let alone fans of Inter and Juventus - clubs that can be mocked by so many more reasons then Milan? If I was to follow your logic, I'd have to drop all of my beliefs and convictions in order not to be mocked by MF members who are my friends!

And finally, if Pippo stays and maybe scores another goal somehow and somewhere for Milan, it's worth every joke, rude word or mockery all year long. At least that's how I see it.

I think it's ridiculous that these guys who said that they were leaving a few weeks ago are now doing a 180 and staying. Especially after all the hoopla in the Novara game. It's just plain emberassing, especially for the club since being this desperate to hold on to the likes of Seedorf and Pippo just shows the type of financial situation we're in

As for selling Ibra, it's another desperate act. Ibra is basically the only reason we managed to remain competitive throughout the entire season. He's a leader and if we lose him or Silva then expect us to go through the same situation we went through after Sheva left. We won't be competitive in the league and we'll once again get humiliated in Europe on a regular basis.

The club clearly has no intention of investing any money into this team. I'd rather keep the core of good player that we currently have.

I don't see how Pippo staying is related to money problems. He is and would stay a bonus. And who said it's final and they've decided to stay anyway?

What money? We cannot spend money we don't have. Every year we spend 80 milion just covering losses. It will take time.

Pippo is not that much of a big deal, as he'd occupy the role he has for these last 2 seasons. Seedorf is the main problem.

Even so, you don't say you're leaving, write a heart felt letter to the fans, make a big fuss in your last game and than change your mind.


I said that if they don't plan on spending any money on strengthening the team, than our core group should be changed.

Agreed. It'd be very, very awkward.

Well seing as Paul Scholes did it and there was no big fuss post the first couple of weeks, I don't think it will be a huge issue. But no, I wouldn't want him back.

I have no problem with them staying in the club in some other position (if dressing room unrest is what concerns the management),but perhaps it is best those players leave.

But Scholes plays for United, where the fans even dare to respect Giggs. That's the biggest difference.

Yeah, probably because they don't have their squad filled with +35-year-olds.

Yes, contrary to Milan. But wait...

Yeah...people forget that we're no longer an old average squad, we're just an average squad.

Allegri: "We have eight midfielders for four places at the moment, but I think and believe that this team needs a creative mid".

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Alright, am I the only one who thinks we need a holding mid much more than we need a creative mid at the moment? I mean, who'll be taking van Bommel's place? Ambrosini? Traoré? At least we have Montolivo and possibly Aquilani to fill our creative needs (which isn't great, but still tolerable), but we really lack a tough holding mid to fill that void in front of the defense.

We need both positions actually, but more of our players can cover the Bommel position then a creative position. That's why we need a AM more badly.

As Montolivo proved for the nth time, he's just mediocre and also cannot play the AM, just like Aquilani. So, we must find another player to fill this position.

At this point I'd really suggest selling Robinho. His best days seem to be over, and he's becoming a luxury for us. We don't play wingers, he can't adapt to our system as AM, while Cassano, Pato and Ibra all get advantage over him.

Allegri said that? He knows about the existance of creative mids? There's hope!

We need a creative mid very badly. All we have now is Montolivo, the rest has close to zero to zero creativity.

Also we need a midfielder who is very good in defending as well. Only Ambrosini is that, and he gets tired very soon. Few others can defend too, but not that well, and none of them I like to see being used as anchor if anything.

Choosing between one of them is like choosing between the front and the back wheel of a bike: you need both.

Let's finalize the Strootman and Ganso deals for starters. And then some more, please. If Ibra has to go, then get two quality players with his money too. And keep Aquilani, now that he's said he's willing to sign up at 2m per season and Liverpool came out and said they don't have him in their plans.

You just can't miss out on him, surely you can't, mediocre player and all.

Ganso? Is he even in for a transfer? I don't think this will ever happen, at least not with Milan.

I still have hope, until and unless he signs on for another club. I still recall all the progress we made with him and the club, plus the company that owned his rights a few years back. Lest we find someone better, I am pretty sure we could land the guy. Particularly now that almost all of our midfield needs fixing.

Do I recall his agent saying that he thinks Ganso will be a Milan player one day, guaranteed? Or was that confirmed as rubbish?

Piecing the various accounts, tweets and news stories together over the years, I believe we were pretty close. If anything we still are. That is unless the Milan management have their eyes on someone better, or the believe Ganso is far too injury prone for the asking price. Then they will leave it hanging dry.

Last I know we have agreed terms with the guy and he said he'll stay in Brazil for a season or so before moving.

i am quite concerned with silva rumours.. everyday there is something in the press about barca/psg/city... we really cant afford to sell him. Apparently there was some secret meeting between milan and barca yesterday (milannews).

I'd rather sign Sahin or Eriksen instead.

If we sell Silva or Ibra then we might as well pack up and go home. It just classes the ambitions of the club as below zero at this point.

It looks like what looked to be a promising mercato just a few weeks ago is quickly turning into a mercato where we can barely hold on to our stars.

What made it so promising just a few weeks ago?

^^ I'd assume veterans leaving

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You sounds like a damn parrot, Max.

What zeddie said

And the fact that top class players of the game for the past 10 years like Seedorf and VB were rumoured to be replaced with promising talent like Sahin, Ganso and Strootman.

Now it seems that all the focus has shifted to us barely holding on to our stars and Galliani having secret meetings with Barca!

The only way I'd ever give them Thiago is if they returned Messi is exchange. That should scare them off real quick

You're starting to sound like a broken record, han. Galliani, Allegri, Thiago's agent, Zlatan himself have all denied every rumor concerning any ongoing negotiations with other clubs. Of course, nothing is certain in football, and next thing you know Barça or City might offer €40 million for Thiago, which would be quite tempting for every club, not only for us. The important thing though is that we don't have the intention to sell any of our stars, and that they don't want to leave either.

As for who we're going to sign, it's still too early to talk about it. Let's be patient and wait a few more weeks. If nothing's happened come early-August, then we can really start to worry about ourselves.

Bronzetti: "Milan don't have any intention of selling Thiago Silva. They've already declined a €40 million offer from Barcelona."

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That pretty much seals it.

Why can't I sound like a broken record when the current stream of rumours is a broken record of the same thing; us selling our best players with no clear intention of rebuilding.

The summer could suck even more due to the Euros.

And frankly I don't see anyone here jumping for joy either (aside from Filippo regarding the Pippo returning rumours )

You'd rather trust what the media says than what comes directly from the mouths of the interested parties? Judge the facts, not the rumors. There's no need to agitate, unless there is substantial evidence of us wanting to sell one of our stars. It's too early for any of that.

Doubt it. What if Barça comes with 50 or includes one or two players?

As long the transfer market hasn't closed, which yet has to be open I think, I will hold my breath.

Fair enough.