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The saw how good Germany was but when they played agianst Paraguay, they really underestimated them, big time, but tonight ..
I REALLY wanted Germany to win. &$#% it.
[insert colorful metaphors here]
Which leads me to say: Go Holland.
[insert colorful metaphors here]
Which leads me to say: Go Holland.
I do think Fillipo was talking about on the tournement as a whole, rather than just tonights game. But tonight Spain showed they deserved it more by beating them head-to-head. I think the Germans played 2 very bad teams, 2 really under-acheiving teams and 1 over-acheiving team.. this was there first real test.
Spain keeping the ball had nothing to do with Germany losing, England had more possesion than Germany when we played. The difference, in my opinion, was that Spain were quicker a the back, so they couldn't just launch balls for Ozil and Podolski to chase. Muller was missed too.
Spain keeping the ball had nothing to do with Germany losing, England had more possesion than Germany when we played. The difference, in my opinion, was that Spain were quicker a the back, so they couldn't just launch balls for Ozil and Podolski to chase. Muller was missed too.
This fish would like to give a fins up to the Spanish central defenders. Spain and defense is not something this fish usually thinks of in the same sentence but both Pique and Puyol were very very good tonight - not even counting Puyol's goal. The two of them were immense. It's hard at times to believe that Pique is just 23. He doesn't play like it.
Spain use the field alot, the took every chance they had, when Pique had the ball, he had at least 2 players to pass and he usually took the best option he got.
Yet another *yawn* showing how bad this competition has been, can't wait for the domestic leagues.
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 8 2010, 01:19 AM) 
I've always said that I'm not going to go gaga over the Germans until they face a great team (England and Argentina on paper are great teams but England got outplayed by Algeria that's how horrible they were and Argentina have a horrible defence). And the moment they faced that great team they were KO'd
I don't think like that. Germany are a great team and would have probably beaten any other "great" team, but not this Spain. there's something in Spain's game that Germany can't beat. we saw that in Euro 2008, too.
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jul 7 2010, 08:57 PM)
I don't think like that. Germany are a great team and would have probably beaten any other "great" team, but not this Spain. there's something in Spain's game that Germany can't beat. we saw that in Euro 2008, too.
Paul the Octopus ?
QUOTE (samira @ Jul 7 2010, 10:04 PM)
Paul the Octopus ?
I believe to have heard Paul was wrong about the Spain-Germany final in 2008.
Awful performance by Germany. Spain managed to close all spaces and pressure their key players, which gave them the upper hand. Way to go!
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 7 2010, 10:51 PM)
I do think Fillipo was talking about on the tournement as a whole, rather than just tonights game. But tonight Spain showed they deserved it more by beating them head-to-head. I think the Germans played 2 very bad teams, 2 really under-acheiving teams and 1 over-acheiving team.. this was there first real test.
Spain keeping the ball had nothing to do with Germany losing, England had more possesion than Germany when we played. The difference, in my opinion, was that Spain were quicker a the back, so they couldn't just launch balls for Ozil and Podolski to chase. Muller was missed too.
Spain keeping the ball had nothing to do with Germany losing, England had more possesion than Germany when we played. The difference, in my opinion, was that Spain were quicker a the back, so they couldn't just launch balls for Ozil and Podolski to chase. Muller was missed too.
Yes, indeed I had. Spain was overall better.
I thought a little about the wins against great teams - I'm not prepared to deminish the success Germany made winning 4-0 or 4-1(2). IMO it is always hard and special to win against Argentina or England, no matter how strong the teams are.
If we view the whole tournament Germany, after loosing against Serbia had a chain of 4 very heavy matches and opponents who were not maybe at their best, but had the quality to make a surprise or win with ease.
Spain on the other hand had - Honduras as a easy fixture, then Chile, then Portugal and then Paraguay. They had their ups and downs which allowed them to give 100% in this match.
Germany did not play good. It disappointed both the fans and the players as well. Schweini clearly said - we did not played the way we wanted. They looked like Paraguay.
My conclusion is - if Germany would have maintained a chain of wins against 5 or 4 teams it would, without overrating, be a precedan rarely seen in World Cup history. Of course, it did not happen.
It does hurt when I remember that Spain and Holland had much more up's and down's. Germany-Holland would be an ideal fixture, a clash between two systems and two courses. Spain-Holland is just a clash between to tactics.
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 8 2010, 12:01 AM)
Germany-Holland would be an ideal fixture, a clash between two systems and two courses.
As much as I didn't want Germany in the Final, that would have been one hell of a game.
Perhaps I am a slow fish. But I just realized that there were no cards at all during that game. And no really niggly nasty fouls. Two half-hearted almost-penalties (one for each) that IMO weren't but that's really about it. It's nice to see a game at a high level without someone resorting to thuggishness or deciding to get out handbags. A cookie is also due, perhaps, to the referee. Good job from him.
Boateng deserved a card, and there was that nasty *** stomping on Podolski (by Piqué, if my memory serves me?)
Oh well. That went pretty much as expected. Bugger!
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Jul 7 2010, 04:28 PM)
I believe to have heard Paul was wrong about the Spain-Germany final in 2008.
They say he was 80% correct in the Euros, and 100% correct here. That octopus can make a killing in Vegas.
Leonardo : Brazil needed Pato and Ronaldinho - link
Pato - yes.
Ronaldinho - hell no!
Ronaldinho - hell no!
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Jul 7 2010, 09:51 PM)
I REALLY wanted Germany to win. &$#% it.
[insert colorful metaphors here]
Which leads me to say: Go Holland.
[insert colorful metaphors here]
Which leads me to say: Go Holland.
i agree
i hate spains play as they do tend to kill the game off by passing around in defence and throw in a dive or two
germany threw men forward time after time keeping a nice flow to there attack even at 0-0
GO HOLLAND
QUOTE (Linkman @ Jul 8 2010, 01:56 AM)
Boateng deserved a card, and there was that nasty *** stomping on Podolski (by Piqué, if my memory serves me?)
It was Ramos that stomped on Podolski.
I agree, Pato yes Ronaldinho.. Im not that sure
The team with best midfiled will win the World Cup. We know that Spain has better midfield than Holland and maybe the best. So to be real I think Spain will win the World Cup after they won over Germany, but anyway I'm, going to support Holland in the final.
QUOTE (Suhail)
germany threw men forward time after time keeping a nice flow to there attack even at 0-0
We must have been watching a different game. Germany barely stepped foot in the Spain half in the 1st half.
From Yahoo Sports (US):
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If It Continued
Spain defeated Germany 1-0 to reach their first ever World Cup final and although even German manager Jogi Loew admitted that his opponents simply outmatched them, we are left to ponder that one question we keep coming back to: what if it continued?
97' -- Gerard Pique spontaneously starts to bleed from the head like a hot cheese fountain. He secretly hopes they spritz him in the face with the magic spray again because it tastes like kisses.
101' -- Lukas Podolski finds it difficult to focus on the match as the Lukas Podolski song dominates his thoughts. He panics and fears he might be having an aneurysm.
108' -- Still seething over Pedro's selfishness that cost him a good chance on goal earlier, Fernando Torres reminds himself to throw a piece of bread at his head later. He strongly considers buttering it first.
111' -- David Villa scores a spectacular goal even though he was substituted in the 81st minute.
115' -- Michael Ballack watches back at home, pondering how he will get the captain's armband back from Philipp Lahm. He's not exactly sure how his plan will come together, but he knows it will involve a sleeping Lahm, Nutella, and an iPad. The iPad is for hitting.
122' -- Lu, Lu, Lu, Lukas Podolski...
127' -- As the only member of Spain's starting XI that doesn't play for either Real Madrid or Barcelona, Joan Capdevila decides to start his own secret society that none of the other starters can join. He briefly attempts to practice the secret handshake on himself before realizing how strange you look when trying to shake your own hand.
130' -- Philipp Lahm plots how he will retain the captain's armband once Ballack is healthy again. He's not exactly sure how his plan will come together, but he knows it will involve pointing out how much better the team plays without the lumbering midfielder and hoping everyone isn't stupid.
134' -- Jogi Loew almost passes out from the overpowering stench of his unwashed sweater.
139' -- Sergi Busquets dives just because it's a habit now and they don't make a nicotine gum for diving.
143' -- Paul the octopus descends from the heavens and declares Spain the winners. He tells everyone to "talk to the tentacle" because that's his catchphrase now, even though he realizes it's kind of lame. He then asks Mesut Ozil to stop looking at him because his eyes are really freaking him out. He also touches Sergio Ramos' hair. And then Paul leaves. Probably heading for a party at Diddy's house.
Spain defeated Germany 1-0 to reach their first ever World Cup final and although even German manager Jogi Loew admitted that his opponents simply outmatched them, we are left to ponder that one question we keep coming back to: what if it continued?
97' -- Gerard Pique spontaneously starts to bleed from the head like a hot cheese fountain. He secretly hopes they spritz him in the face with the magic spray again because it tastes like kisses.
101' -- Lukas Podolski finds it difficult to focus on the match as the Lukas Podolski song dominates his thoughts. He panics and fears he might be having an aneurysm.
108' -- Still seething over Pedro's selfishness that cost him a good chance on goal earlier, Fernando Torres reminds himself to throw a piece of bread at his head later. He strongly considers buttering it first.
111' -- David Villa scores a spectacular goal even though he was substituted in the 81st minute.
115' -- Michael Ballack watches back at home, pondering how he will get the captain's armband back from Philipp Lahm. He's not exactly sure how his plan will come together, but he knows it will involve a sleeping Lahm, Nutella, and an iPad. The iPad is for hitting.
122' -- Lu, Lu, Lu, Lukas Podolski...
127' -- As the only member of Spain's starting XI that doesn't play for either Real Madrid or Barcelona, Joan Capdevila decides to start his own secret society that none of the other starters can join. He briefly attempts to practice the secret handshake on himself before realizing how strange you look when trying to shake your own hand.
130' -- Philipp Lahm plots how he will retain the captain's armband once Ballack is healthy again. He's not exactly sure how his plan will come together, but he knows it will involve pointing out how much better the team plays without the lumbering midfielder and hoping everyone isn't stupid.
134' -- Jogi Loew almost passes out from the overpowering stench of his unwashed sweater.
139' -- Sergi Busquets dives just because it's a habit now and they don't make a nicotine gum for diving.
143' -- Paul the octopus descends from the heavens and declares Spain the winners. He tells everyone to "talk to the tentacle" because that's his catchphrase now, even though he realizes it's kind of lame. He then asks Mesut Ozil to stop looking at him because his eyes are really freaking him out. He also touches Sergio Ramos' hair. And then Paul leaves. Probably heading for a party at Diddy's house.
Very good.
Howard Webb to ref the final as expected.
Champions League Final and World Cup Final in the same year? Well done Howard.
Although, it just goes to show how **** officiating is Worldwide. I don't think he's a bad ref, but if he's the best there is..
Although, it just goes to show how **** officiating is Worldwide. I don't think he's a bad ref, but if he's the best there is..
This fish is willing to give Howard Webb a fins up - but only if he puts anti-glare gel on his forehead as the reflection can be a little scary!
lol at that article!
And... for more Paul the Octopus news:
And... for more Paul the Octopus news:
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Leading online gambling service, Betfair, told CNN if someone bet £10 ($15) on the first match, carried over all funds to the second match, and then repeated this up until Germany's sixth match, their original bet would have netted them £4,071 ($6,092). They said the probability of this happening was 0.245 percent, or a 1 in 408 chance.
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British high street bookmaker William Hill was so impressed by Paul's predictive powers that it has offered even odds that he will pick the winner of the final between Spain and The Netherlands
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According to media reports, the slippery soothsayer has received death threats from disgruntled Argentina fans angry at their team's comprehensive 4-0 thrashing at the hands of Germany.
Celebrity Spanish chef José Andrés even promised asylum to Paul if the Spanish beat Germany in their semi-final clash. "If Spain wins octopus is off of all my menus!" he declared.
Celebrity Spanish chef José Andrés even promised asylum to Paul if the Spanish beat Germany in their semi-final clash. "If Spain wins octopus is off of all my menus!" he declared.
EDIT : Sorry for posting this on the wrong topic :$
Very good job by Liverpool, Jovanović was Serbia's best player and had a overall excellent season. Good move.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 8 2010, 04:03 PM)
We must have been watching a different game. Germany barely stepped foot in the Spain half in the 1st half.
Agreed
World Cup's Ugliest and Most Beautiful Soccer Players, According to New Poll
Cavani and Henry looks better than Kaka?
Cavani and Henry looks better than Kaka?
(@ vahid: your location.. )
Most beautiful footballer? I hope Fishdoll doesn't make any jokes for me for saying this but Diego Lugano is a top contender in my book (EDIT: no wonder really, he is as his name indicates of Italian descent...)
)Most beautiful footballer? I hope Fishdoll doesn't make any jokes for me for saying this but Diego Lugano is a top contender in my book
(EDIT: no wonder really, he is as his name indicates of Italian descent...)
This fish will make no jokes! (this time)
In other news, Paul the Octopus has spoken:
link
In other news, Paul the Octopus has spoken:
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World Cup 2010 - Octopus Paul backs Spain to lift trophy
Germany's oracle octopus Paul picked Spain to beat the Netherlands in the World Cup final in a live television broadcast watched across Europe.
The two-year-old celebrity octopus, who has accurately picked the outcome of all six of Germany's World Cup matches so far, quickly tipped Spain to beat the Netherlands.
It took him only three minutes to make up his mind.
"That was fast - it looks like a clear-cut victory for Spain," said Tanja Munzig, spokeswoman for Sea Life in Oberhausen.
She was surprised by his speed in picking Spain. For some matches it took Paul 70 minutes to decide.
The octopus, considered by some to be the most intelligent of all invertebrates, got the choice of picking food from two different transparent containers lowered into his tank - one with a Dutch flag on it and one with Spain's flag.
Reaction in Spain was swift, with the country's biggest selling sports daily website Marca.com running the headline: "The octopus Paul makes us champions".
The container Paul opens first is regarded as his pick. On Friday he wasted no time in diving for the container on the right side with the Spanish flag on it.
Two German television networks interrupted their programming for live coverage of the two-year-old celebrity octopus's picks.
Networks in Spain, the Netherlands and elsewhere in Europe also broadcast Paul's decision live.
Earlier on Friday, Germans heaved a sigh of relief when Paul tipped Germany to beat Uruguay in the World Cup match for third place. There were cheers in offices across Germany after crowds of viewers tuned in to watch Paul live.
Normally he only picks Germany matches. But for the final Sea Life made an exception.
The octopus in Oberhausen turned into a global celebrity for correctly picking the winners of all six of Germany's World Cup matches - including their two defeats to Serbia and Spain.
On Friday Paul first settled on top of the Germany container but after a few minutes shifted to the Uruguay container.
Then after about 15 minutes he went back to Germany container, quickly opened the lid and ate the morsel of food inside.
Not an ordinarily superstitious people, Germans have become believers in Paul's possible psychic powers.
The country was shocked and distraught when he picked Spain to beat Germany after tipping German wins over Argentina, England, Ghana and Australia.
Paul's selections have become top news across Germany and around the world. Some commentators even wondered aloud whether his improbable winning streak might have begun to influence some of the more superstitious players.
But after Paul accurately picked Spain to beat Germany in the semi-final, some Germans called for a public roasting of the oracle octopus. Newspapers and websites were filled with suggestions on how to cook and eat him.
Officials at Sea Life in Oberhausen have installed extra security to protect their octopus.
"Paul is in safe hands with us," said Munzig.
Spain's Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero was quoted in Spanish media reports saying - in jest - he was concerned about Paul's safety.
"I am concerned for the octopus...I am thinking of sending him a protective team," Zapatero said.
Spain's Environment and Fisheries Minister Elena Espinosa also said: "On Monday I shall be at the European Council of Ministers and I shall be asking for a (fishing) ban on Paul the octopus so Germans do not eat him."
Germany's oracle octopus Paul picked Spain to beat the Netherlands in the World Cup final in a live television broadcast watched across Europe.
The two-year-old celebrity octopus, who has accurately picked the outcome of all six of Germany's World Cup matches so far, quickly tipped Spain to beat the Netherlands.
It took him only three minutes to make up his mind.
"That was fast - it looks like a clear-cut victory for Spain," said Tanja Munzig, spokeswoman for Sea Life in Oberhausen.
She was surprised by his speed in picking Spain. For some matches it took Paul 70 minutes to decide.
The octopus, considered by some to be the most intelligent of all invertebrates, got the choice of picking food from two different transparent containers lowered into his tank - one with a Dutch flag on it and one with Spain's flag.
Reaction in Spain was swift, with the country's biggest selling sports daily website Marca.com running the headline: "The octopus Paul makes us champions".
The container Paul opens first is regarded as his pick. On Friday he wasted no time in diving for the container on the right side with the Spanish flag on it.
Two German television networks interrupted their programming for live coverage of the two-year-old celebrity octopus's picks.
Networks in Spain, the Netherlands and elsewhere in Europe also broadcast Paul's decision live.
Earlier on Friday, Germans heaved a sigh of relief when Paul tipped Germany to beat Uruguay in the World Cup match for third place. There were cheers in offices across Germany after crowds of viewers tuned in to watch Paul live.
Normally he only picks Germany matches. But for the final Sea Life made an exception.
The octopus in Oberhausen turned into a global celebrity for correctly picking the winners of all six of Germany's World Cup matches - including their two defeats to Serbia and Spain.
On Friday Paul first settled on top of the Germany container but after a few minutes shifted to the Uruguay container.
Then after about 15 minutes he went back to Germany container, quickly opened the lid and ate the morsel of food inside.
Not an ordinarily superstitious people, Germans have become believers in Paul's possible psychic powers.
The country was shocked and distraught when he picked Spain to beat Germany after tipping German wins over Argentina, England, Ghana and Australia.
Paul's selections have become top news across Germany and around the world. Some commentators even wondered aloud whether his improbable winning streak might have begun to influence some of the more superstitious players.
But after Paul accurately picked Spain to beat Germany in the semi-final, some Germans called for a public roasting of the oracle octopus. Newspapers and websites were filled with suggestions on how to cook and eat him.
Officials at Sea Life in Oberhausen have installed extra security to protect their octopus.
"Paul is in safe hands with us," said Munzig.
Spain's Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero was quoted in Spanish media reports saying - in jest - he was concerned about Paul's safety.
"I am concerned for the octopus...I am thinking of sending him a protective team," Zapatero said.
Spain's Environment and Fisheries Minister Elena Espinosa also said: "On Monday I shall be at the European Council of Ministers and I shall be asking for a (fishing) ban on Paul the octopus so Germans do not eat him."
link
hmm... why does all this come across as a huge insider betting thing?
As a girl I say Torres was more beuatiful before but Rooney and Donovan is the same 
Who's "LoveMilan" in the MilanFan world cup fantasy? ari, is that you? we're playing in the final
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jul 9 2010, 10:47 PM)
Who's "LoveMilan" in the MilanFan world cup fantasy? ari, is that you? we're playing in the final
yeppp. it on!
I HATE THAT DAMN OCTOPUS!!!
SPECIESIST!
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Two German television networks interrupted their programming for live coverage of the two-year-old celebrity octopus's picks.
Networks in Spain, the Netherlands and elsewhere in Europe also broadcast Paul's decision live.
Networks in Spain, the Netherlands and elsewhere in Europe also broadcast Paul's decision live.
Hah! Take that LeBron!
It made the Today Show this morning too. 
QUOTE (vahid @ Jul 9 2010, 11:27 AM)
World Cup's Ugliest and Most Beautiful Soccer Players, According to New Poll
Cavani and Henry looks better than Kaka?
Cavani and Henry looks better than Kaka?
Ronaldo only 8th? Way to go!
I find such contests disgusting. It's so shamefull, especially for those "ugly" players.
According to Sky, it wasn't a heart attack - he fainted after not having eaten and having the flu. Supposedly he's being kept under observation overnight.
QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Jul 10 2010, 12:34 AM)
According to Sky, it wasn't a heart attack - he fainted after not having eaten and having the flu. Supposedly he's being kept under observation overnight.
But wasn't he in a restaurant when he fainted? Don't people go there to eat?
Talk of bad service. He starved to unconsciousness by the time they'd gotten his order ready. He should have gone to McD.
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jul 10 2010, 08:47 AM)
Talk of bad service. He starved to unconsciousness by the time they'd gotten his order ready. He should have gone to McD.
Yep, and ordered from the drive through
Netherland is afraid of losing the Final because the ref can do a misscall again.
Klose and Forlan is injuryed but still gets to play for third place.
Klose and Forlan is injuryed but still gets to play for third place.
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