samira
Jun 27 2010, 04:39 PM
Özil out.
Is it Özil or Oezil
CHU-LIP
Jun 27 2010, 04:40 PM
QUOTE (samira @ Jun 27 2010, 03:39 PM)
Özil out.
Is it Özil or Oezil
It's Özil, but an alternative to it is Oezil for those who can't type Ö since Ö can also be spelled as Oe...
X-Offender
Jun 27 2010, 04:44 PM
"Ö" is spelled "oe", kinda like "ō" is spelled "ou" in Japanese.
Dracoris
Jun 27 2010, 04:45 PM
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Jun 27 2010, 11:40 AM)
It's Özil, but an alternative to it is Oezil for those who can't type Ö since Ö can also be spelled as Oe...
It can also be spelled A-w-e-s-o-m-e
samira
Jun 27 2010, 04:45 PM
Wrigth-Phillips in .
If Half time ended 2-2 England would probably have more confidence.
samira
Jun 27 2010, 04:45 PM
QUOTE (Dracoris @ Jun 27 2010, 04:45 PM)
It can also be spelled A-w-e-s-o-m-e
I think Klose's name is spelled that way
CHU-LIP
Jun 27 2010, 04:46 PM
QUOTE (Dracoris @ Jun 27 2010, 03:45 PM)
It can also be spelled A-w-e-s-o-m-e
haha
I agree...
there is a song called A-W-E-S-O-M-E (and I find that song awesome btw...)
CHU-LIP
Jun 27 2010, 04:48 PM
Germany through
4-1
Summary:
Klose (Neuer assist) 1-0
Podolski (Müller assist) 2-0
Upson (Gerrard assist) 2-1
Lampard made 2-2 but didn't count
HT
Müller (Schweini assist) 3-1
Müller (Özil assist) 4-1
Jack Bauer
Jun 27 2010, 04:50 PM
Another hyped England team, another big time failure. Nothing new.
Now the press will tear them apart just as fast as they hyped them before. It's the favorite english sport.
kurtsimonw
Jun 27 2010, 04:51 PM
Oh well, maybe one day FIFA will put their money where it matters, anywhere but referees pockets.
X-Offender
Jun 27 2010, 04:52 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 27 2010, 05:51 PM)
Oh well, maybe one day FIFA will put their money where it matters, anywhere but referees pockets.
Just face the fact that Germany were miles better than England and that England have been shite from the very start. They deserved to go out.
Zed.D
Jun 27 2010, 04:55 PM
Kurt
funny you don't even mention your players' amateurish mistakes. just blame Capello.
I mean, wtf did Rooney do? what a SUPER FLOP!
samira
Jun 27 2010, 04:55 PM
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Jun 27 2010, 04:48 PM)
Germany through
4-1
Summary:
Klose (Neuer assist) 1-0
Podolski (I think Klose assist) 2-0
Upson (Gerrard assist) 2-1
Lampard made 2-2 but didn't count
HT
Müller (Schweini assist) 3-1
Müller (Özil assist) 4-1
It was Klose.
and what a game, my mum laughed and had a smile on her face til FT.
But Germany will probably win, and I hope Argentina loses tonight..
The press is ready to tear apart Barry !! I wish I could hear their comentes under the game.
I fell sorry for Beckham to see that game, and another famous guy was there to, (don't remember his name
)
The ref , not just this game . But they are not perfect..
kurtsimonw
Jun 27 2010, 04:56 PM
They look like Bolton, they play like Bolton. Ugh, how can we go out to them?
Horrible decision cost us the game again. As the United fans say "Im having a party when Blatter dies".
Fishdoll
Jun 27 2010, 04:57 PM
Germany deserved winners in this one. Yes, there was one very bad call but it isn't as if only england ever gets bad calls and it's not as if they didn't have a whole second half to come back from it. They just couldn't do that.
Germany were better on the day. Better by far.
Zed.D
Jun 27 2010, 04:57 PM
I wish the ref hadn't made that mistake. I think Germany would've won nonetheless.
samira
Jun 27 2010, 04:59 PM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 27 2010, 04:52 PM)
Just face the fact that Germany were miles better than England and that England have been shite from the very start. They deserved to go out.
They were lucky to go through from the start, everbody thought they would be better now when they released it serious but I guess not.
Jack Bauer
Jun 27 2010, 04:59 PM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 27 2010, 06:52 PM)
Just face the fact that Germany were miles better than England and that England have been shite from the very start. They deserved to go out.
Of course, but he's too biased to admit it.
CHU-LIP
Jun 27 2010, 05:00 PM
QUOTE (samira @ Jun 27 2010, 03:55 PM)
It was Klose.
Or was it Müller?
Anyway, this was one epic game.
I loved it!
han2503
Jun 27 2010, 05:01 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 27 2010, 03:56 PM)
They look like Bolton, they play like Bolton. Ugh, how can we go out to them?
Horrible decision cost us the game again. As the United fans say "Im having a party when Blatter dies".
They might have played like Bolton but where does that put England? Since they were hammered by them that is...
It was a horrible decision, but it's not like it effected the result anyway. And FIFA have better things to do then try to sabotage England who do it just fine by themselves every year without any outside "help"
kurtsimonw
Jun 27 2010, 05:03 PM
QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Jun 27 2010, 04:57 PM)
Germany deserved winners in this one. Yes, there was one very bad call but it isn't as if only england ever gets bad calls and it's not as if they didn't have a whole second half to come back from it. They just couldn't do that.
Germany were better on the day. Better by far.
I've heard alot say this, but I don't get it.
If they give the goal it's 2-2 and we have momentum, but they didn't and it gave Germany HT to recover. They then just played kick and chase and countered us - something that they couldn't have done if it was 2-2 because we wouldn't have been open.
Oh well, I can sit here and say they needed the refs to beat us and they can't talk about 66 again.
samira
Jun 27 2010, 05:03 PM
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Jun 27 2010, 05:00 PM)
Or was it Müller?
Anyway, this was one epic game.
I loved it!
I don't know, but I think its Klose.
Sorry Lampard.. But It happend to Germany -66 to
so payback is a *****.
But Germany deserved it.
And now It's time for England to go home to a media that will probably kill them.
Fillipo Simone
Jun 27 2010, 05:06 PM
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Jun 27 2010, 06:00 PM)
Or was it Müller?
Anyway, this was one epic game.
I loved it!
It was Müller 100%
Great win by Germany, one of the best matches so far. Just a pitty it was so soon.
Fishdoll
Jun 27 2010, 05:09 PM
Kurt, both teams had halftime to recover from the bad call - England could (should?) have gone all out attacking at the start. They could easily have done so and, well, they didn't. The key players for England didn't step up - Rooney, Lampard, Gerrard, the defense. The defense were shocking on the goals that were conceded.
The kids from Germany did step up. The shaky German defense wasn't really seriously tested.
I don't think it's valid to blame one bad call and/or an anti-England conspiracy on England's loss. I think England lost because the Germans were better.
CHU-LIP
Jun 27 2010, 05:11 PM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 27 2010, 04:06 PM)
It was Müller 100%
True.
If we are not going to sign Dzeko, Balotelli, Luis Fabiano, Neymar or so... then I want Müller...
kurtsimonw
Jun 27 2010, 05:12 PM
Tennie, we did go all out attack because we had to, something that we had to do because of a horrible call. It cost us the game.
FIFAs stance on technology: too expensive, laughable.
Fishdoll
Jun 27 2010, 05:17 PM
Kurt, the bad call didn't cost you the game. Being outplayed by a superior team cost you the game.
kurtsimonw
Jun 27 2010, 05:23 PM
Ugh, forget it. You're being arguementative for the sake if it.
If the goal was given they couldn't have played the way they did because we wouldn't have commit that many forward, it's simple.
Could they have still won? Sure, but we'd have had the momentum.
It cost us the game.
X-Offender
Jun 27 2010, 05:25 PM
QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Jun 27 2010, 06:17 PM)
Kurt, the bad call didn't cost you the game. Being outplayed by a superior team cost you the game.
Obviously. Germany have shown throughout the tournament to be a very capable team. What have England showed so far? A big pile of shite. Even if the goal was allowed, Germany would have won anyway. Superiority always overcomes luck.
CHU-LIP
Jun 27 2010, 05:26 PM
Kurt has every right to be a bad loser in this since his NT got screwed. 2-2 or 2-1 is a huge difference which will affect the way you play. The match would have been different, still I liked Germany's odds a lot even then because they played way better, but still, you can't know. Probably it did cost the game which would have been lost anyway but not necessary. I understand Kurt's behaviour in this (I'd do the same). It's frustrated.
But Germany would have won anyway.
kurtsimonw
Jun 27 2010, 05:32 PM
Thanks for the understanding CHU-LIP. I sense a few are trying to wind me up.
Not to worry. Despite playing a game more, facing harder teams and conceeding 4 goals in 1 game, our defense was still no worse than Italys.
Milan Are Brilliant
Jun 27 2010, 05:43 PM
Useless, utter useless.
I know we had a goal that wasn't allowed but we can't hide behind this, we were simply outclassed by a far, far superior side. We at times looked like amateurs, how Germany got their 1st I wouldn't expect to happen in a kick about with mates it was shambolic.
It's been coming, the team has been useless this competition, the worst I've certainly ever seen them. The team is not good enough, its stale, plain and is a million miles behind the best - certainly on the big stage.
Mr Rooney quite frankly got found out, I don't believe he wasn't fit he just isn't as good as some believe perhaps Euro 04 will be his only competition where he lights up.
The team's bad it wasn't even dissapointing, it was a whitewash and if it weren't for James we'd have lost by 6 or 7.
Habitant
Jun 27 2010, 05:45 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 27 2010, 05:32 PM)
Thanks for the understanding CHU-LIP. I sense a few are trying to wind me up.
Not to worry. Despite playing a game more, facing harder teams and conceeding 4 goals in 1 game, our defense was still no worse than Italys.
whos trying to wind who up? loll
LaPalma
Jun 27 2010, 05:46 PM
Very very glad right now. Had to watch the game in Vienna and the Austrians don't care about football that much, so...meh. Anyway, bad call by the ref, it was obviously a goal. But hey, that's football. Sometimes you're lucky and sometimes you're not. That said, Fifa should definetely allow some tech in the game.
Besides that wrong decision we totally deserved to win, we simply played better football. Englands game was horrible, no flow, no teamplay. And how brilliant was young Thomas Müller? He only played one pro season for Bayern and is already that impressing. Özilo was great as well, just like Klose. But the real surprise of this tournament are Friedrichs rock solid performances. He was always someone who was "just there", but now at 31 he became really important for the team. Great great win.
X-Offender
Jun 27 2010, 06:05 PM
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jun 27 2010, 06:46 PM)
But the real surprise of this tournament are Friedrichs rock solid performances. He was always someone who was "just there", but now at 31 he became really important for the team. Great great win.
Finally someone mentioning it. I too think Friedrich has been sensational so far. I remember his horrid performances as RB in the past, so I never thought he'd actually be this good. And Neuer has been quite solid as well. The only position I think Germany suffers is the left flank. I think Boateng is quite mediocre, and Loew doesn't field Badstuber anymore. Perhaps give a chance to Aogo?
Warchant
Jun 27 2010, 06:12 PM
0_o
Jack Sparrow
Jun 27 2010, 06:38 PM
To say being 2-1 down in the first half...and that a disallowed goal in the 39th would have been a huge boost in momentum and that's the reason they lost is well kinda weird.
I think this was one of those games, where everything Germany tried came off. They're usually not this good at finishing.
I'm worried about seeing Maradona naked now!
Zed.D
Jun 27 2010, 06:39 PM
Right now I'm SO PISSED OFF because Muller was in my fantasy team but I forget to play him in the XI. I'm so sad
CHU-LIP
Jun 27 2010, 06:40 PM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 27 2010, 05:38 PM)
I'm worried about seeing Maradona naked now!
Huh?
What did he say?
Zed.D
Jun 27 2010, 06:48 PM
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Jun 27 2010, 09:10 PM)
Huh?
What did he say?
I think he'd said if Argentina won the WC he'd run naked somewhere in Buenos Aires (or something like that!)
kurtsimonw
Jun 27 2010, 06:58 PM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 27 2010, 06:38 PM)
To say being 2-1 down in the first half...and that a disallowed goal in the 39th would have been a huge boost in momentum and that's the reason they lost is well kinda weird.
I'm sick of saying it..
Because the goal was not given we had to attack. Because we had to attack we left space. Because we left space they scored goals.
It really is very straight forward.
I do thunk we'll get the 2018 WC now, we're the only country that seemingly has any fans at a WC.
samira
Jun 27 2010, 07:00 PM
England would have more confidence if the goal was allowed
Edit: Messi has 20 shots at the target and none of them are goals
11 saved by the goalies .
73% of his passes is sucessful
would not call him bad but would not call him amazing either.
han2503
Jun 27 2010, 07:06 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 27 2010, 05:23 PM)
Ugh, forget it. You're being arguementative for the sake if it.
If the goal was given they couldn't have played the way they did because we wouldn't have commit that many forward, it's simple.
Could they have still won? Sure, but we'd have had the momentum.
It cost us the game.
I agree with you 99%. The goal effected how both teams came out and played their game.
But then again you're saying that that goal cost you the match, as if you're sure that had it been allowed England would have gone through, which is a load of ******** imo as Germany out classed them in every area of the pitch. Goal or no goal Germany would have still won this. England have been poor in every match in this competition bar 30 minutes against Slovenia, this outcome was inevitable
CHU-LIP
Jun 27 2010, 07:10 PM
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jun 27 2010, 05:48 PM)
I think he'd said if Argentina won the WC he'd run naked somewhere in Buenos Aires (or something like that!)
Oh, but that won't happen.
If Mexico won't beat them, then Germany will for sure.
Zed.D
Jun 27 2010, 07:14 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 27 2010, 10:28 PM)
I do thunk we'll get the 2018 WC now, we're the only country that seemingly has any fans at a WC.
samira
Jun 27 2010, 07:15 PM
I agree on that, I think Argentina is more afraid of the next game instead of this one
even if I hope Mexico wins
Jack Sparrow
Jun 27 2010, 07:21 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 27 2010, 11:28 PM)
I'm sick of saying it..
Because the goal was not given we had to attack. Because we had to attack we left space. Because we left space they scored goals.
It really is very straight forward.
I do thunk we'll get the 2018 WC now, we're the only country that seemingly has any fans at a WC.
I understand your logic on how they scored their next goals. But you have to admit Germany weren't parking the bus. The English offence had no ideas whatsoever. The fact was you can point the third and fourth goals to be down to a complete lack of organization. What the hell was Barry and Johnson doing??!! And the first goal...
at Terry and Upson.
I think there are many instances where teams have gone down by a goal and come back to win a match in the world cup. Without really being humiliated like this. England shouldn't lose to Germany by 3 goals. It was a bad performance.
Lampard and Gerrard and co. got schooled by a bunch of kids yet to see their 25th birthday. This is the tragedy of England! Beckham on one leg would have shown more resolve.
A disallowed goal got their heads down??!! WTH??
X-Offender
Jun 27 2010, 07:27 PM
I think we can all (well, bar one person) agree that yes, the disallowed goal was scandalous and would have affected the course of the game, but nonetheless Germany would have still won because their supremacy towards England was clear as crystal.
*** END OF THE ARGUMENT ***
Now let's enjoy Argentina-Mexico.
Fishdoll
Jun 27 2010, 07:29 PM
(zeddie! Rosetti is refereing Argentina-Mexico!)
samira
Jun 27 2010, 07:29 PM
Rosetti as ref, what a game this is going to become !
DOS SANTOS
I think Barcelona is going to regret the sold him
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