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Fillipo Simone
Well, he is crucial to Croatia's finishing department. Don't know why but the NT Petric never plays/scores like the club (HSV/BVB) Petric. It's something like the spell Boksic had.
kurtsimonw
Boksic, I remember him.. why did he play for Middlesbrough!? blink.gif
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 16 2009, 11:52 PM) *
Boksic, I remember him.. why did he play for Middlesbrough!? blink.gif

Cause his friends from Juve/Lazio times Ravanelli and Gazza called him?

Don't know, but it was a totall miss. Most of croatian players who come to EPL make similar misses. Just think of the tragic Balaban-Villa deal. But Boksic deserved better...
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 16 2009, 10:56 PM) *
Cause his friends from Juve/Lazio times Ravanelli and Gazza called him?

Don't know, but it was a totall miss. Most of croatian players who come to EPL make similar misses. Just think of the tragic Balaban-Villa deal. But Boksic deserved better...

Ah, that makes sense.

B*laban was so bad, I've never seen a player who lacked such confidence..
Jack Sparrow
^^

Sheva at Chelsea?
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 17 2009, 05:12 AM) *
^^

Sheva at Chelsea?

Not even close.

Sheva did actually score 14 goals for Chelsea in his 1st season so he wasn't all that bad. B*laban barely even played 14 games and scored 0 goals. He went through 1-on-1 a few times and just hit them straight at the keeper, he made you want to cry!
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Feb 19 2009, 12:12 PM) *
Have a little faith Kurt wink.gif

I'll try!

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 19 2009, 01:12 PM) *
That's the spirit!

You know that it could be a blessing in disguise for Villa... if you go out of the competition this round, you can put all your energy on finishing amongst the top 4... I suspect you'd rather see Villa in the CL next season than further in the UEFA this season, probably drawing a strong team and going out in the last stages. right?

I don't really know much about the EPL and Villa, but when I look at the standings, I don't feel Villa's 7-point gap between with the fifth place is a fluke. and if it hasn't been a fluke, then Villa can continue in this path and beat either Arsenal or Chelsea to a CL spot. god knows I want that to happen! just as much as I'd like to see Genoa do that in Serie A.

Trouble is with the new rule changes, finishing 4th means nothing. If one of the big 4 finishes 4th, they're more than capable of winning the qualifying round, but if we end up having to play a team like Fiorentina or Atletico I'm not really sure we'd go through.

I wouldn't say fluke. Many people have said we're lucky that we score alot of late goals, but nobody has scored more goals in the last 15 minutes of games than Liverpool ad no team has scored more injury time goals than Arsenal, so teams around us are pretty lucky too! We've also had a tonne of injuries, we played Everton last weekend with only 4 of the 11 we would have played if everyone is fit.

We deserve to be where we are, but a tough run of fixtures coming up could put us as low as 6th. Everton are 11 points behind, but we have to go to Anfield, ld Trafford, City of Manchester Stadium, while hosting Chelsea, Everton and Spurs, not easy!

If we finish top 4 it will be fantastic. Beating Chelsea on Saturday would probably give our players the confidence that they can do it. A defeat and the pressure may start to get to us. Very big game!

Oh, and a mention for Krasic of CSKA. Best opposition performance I've seen at Villa Park this season by a mile, che was brilliant.
kurtsimonw
Villa-Chelsea tomorrow. Not confident at all. Hiddinks first game in charge, we've come off the back of being eliminated from the FA Cup and a home draw in the UEFA Cup, I can't see anything but a Chelsea win. Wurprisingly, Chelsea haven't won at Villa Park since 1999 and it remains the only Premier League ground tat Abramovich has never seen his side win it. Would like to see it continue, but doubtful. 3-1 Chelsea.
Locke Lamora
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 21 2009, 04:06 AM) *
Villa-Chelsea tomorrow. Not confident at all. Hiddinks first game in charge, we've come off the back of being eliminated from the FA Cup and a home draw in the UEFA Cup, I can't see anything but a Chelsea win. Wurprisingly, Chelsea haven't won at Villa Park since 1999 and it remains the only Premier League ground tat Abramovich has never seen his side win it. Would like to see it continue, but doubtful. 3-1 Chelsea.



The Emirates. innocentsmily.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Feb 21 2009, 12:14 PM) *
The Emirates. innocentsmily.gif

Not stadium, ground, as in your territory. His side have won away at Arsenal, is what I'm getting at.

Anyways, Abramovich finally saw his side win at Villa Park. Moment of brilliance from Lampard to set up Anelka mid-way through the first half. They outclassed in in the first 45, we were better in the 2nd half and more than merrited the draw. I predicted defeat, and pretty much conceeded defeat when I saw Mark Halsey was refereeing the game. From the taunting of the Villa fans before games against West Ham and Stoke to the dubious penalties he gave against us throughout last season and again against Stoke this season, I'd wish the Premier League would stop appointing him to our games. No big decision to make for him, thankfully, as he got every other decision wrong, not just against Villa but for both sides. Ruined when started out to be a good open game of football.

Everton and Arsenal win this weekend, and we can start looking back at finishing 6th again.
dst
Barry should have done better with the two chances he had. And Agbonlahor too... dreadful effort on that one-on-one... you never go for the near corner there, not with a technical shot at least.
Zed.D
Villa didn't deserve to lose at all. they dominated the game in the 2nd half!
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 21 2009, 04:04 PM) *
Barry should have done better with the two chances he had. And Agbonlahor too... dreadful effort on that one-on-one... you never go for the near corner there, not with a technical shot at least.

I thought the one sattempt Barry had to Cechs left was a very good effort, don't remember the 2nd one. Agreed on the Agbonlahor attempt though, nothing wrong with going to the near post from that angle, as going for the far post is near impossible, but he could have got much closer t Cech. Gabby may be the fastest footballer around, but his footballing brain is still quite poor.

Anyways, Arsenal 0-0 Sunderland, so it's good news for us that they only gained a point this weekend! United 1-1 Blackburn at half-time. First goal United have let in for ages.
dst
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 21 2009, 08:25 PM) *
nothing wrong with going to the near post from that angle, as going for the far post is near impossible, but he could have got much closer t Cech.

well yeah I completely disagree but anyway tongue.gif

Barry's other chance was his weak shot from outside the area. Not a great chance but it can go in if you place it right, he shot dead center.
Locke Lamora
It seems like we're doing everything we can to hand Villa the 4th CL spot.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Feb 21 2009, 07:21 PM) *
It seems like we're doing everything we can to hand Villa the 4th CL spot.

To be fair, there's not much you could have done. Before today we'd won 8 and drew 2 of our last 10, it's not like we're there because other teams are doing badly, we deserve to be. The fact you're about 15 games unbeaten and still haen't caught us is testament to how well we've done.

You'll get 4th though, in my opinion. My pre-season prediction was 6th for Villa, and unless we get some points at Old Trafford, Anfield and COMS, that prediction looks solid.

Didn't hear anything about the Arsenal game today besides the result. How did you play, was it one of those where you were all over them but couldn't score? Did Eduardo or Arshavin play?
Locke Lamora
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 21 2009, 08:51 PM) *
To be fair, there's not much you could have done. Before today we'd won 8 and drew 2 of our last 10, it's not like we're there because other teams are doing badly, we deserve to be. The fact you're about 15 games unbeaten and still haen't caught us is testament to how well we've done.

You'll get 4th though, in my opinion. My pre-season prediction was 6th for Villa, and unless we get some points at Old Trafford, Anfield and COMS, that prediction looks solid.

Didn't hear anything about the Arsenal game today besides the result. How did you play, was it one of those where you were all over them but couldn't score? Did Eduardo or Arshavin play?


Arshavin played, Eduardo pulled a hamstring in the Cardiff game and is out for the Roma game.
And yes it was a game where any decent fu*ker except those in our team would have scored a bucketload. Gallas, Vela, Van Persie and Toure were the main cuprits (though Toure's header was cleared off the line).
So that's three 0-0's in a row for us.
dst
Arshavin was Arsenal's only player that actually tried to do something today. Oh Bendtner tried too... but that guy just can't do anything, he's lame. The rest were mostly just walking around. I can't believe they played like that when they knew Villa had lost. huh.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 22 2009, 01:13 AM) *
Arshavin was Arsenal's only player that actually tried to do something today. Oh Bendtner tried too... but that guy just can't do anything, he's lame. The rest were mostly just walking around. I can't believe they played like that when they knew Villa had lost. huh.gif

To be honest, I think it'd have been better for Arsenal had they played the same time as us. It's that added bit of pressure for them knowing that they have a chance to catch us.

When I think about it, I'm pleased with todays outcome. At best, I thought we'd get a draw against Chelsea and that Arsenal would win, meaning they'd gain 2 points on us. They actually only gained 1, so it's a good outcome. Trips to Anfield and Old Trafford await us.. Stoke at home is a must win next week!
dst
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 22 2009, 07:16 AM) *
It's that added bit of pressure for them knowing that they have a chance to catch us.

If that's how they play under pressure I can't imagine how they'll look when they don't care.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 22 2009, 02:50 PM) *
If that's how they play under pressure I can't imagine how they'll look when they don't care.

I haven't seen any of the game, so I can't comment. But it sounded to me like a typical Arsenal performance, all the posession, but no goal threat. I'd like to know how RvP performed, because I've noticed in recent months that if he's not on top form, they don't win.
Jack Sparrow
Some problems with his contract? He was saying he wants confirmation that Arsenal really are looking to win something and not be a feeder club for young talent. Only then will he sign a new contract...
Tennie
So the dirtyrottenscousers drew 1-1 with City.

Not the best result for them.
dst
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 22 2009, 06:57 PM) *
I haven't seen any of the game, so I can't comment. But it sounded to me like a typical Arsenal performance, all the posession, but no goal threat. I'd like to know how RvP performed, because I've noticed in recent months that if he's not on top form, they don't win.

I have not watched their last games. My cousin who supports them tells me he's been their best player in the new year and basically he's been the one winning them the matches lately. I think he's scored or assisted all the goals they have produced in the new year.

So I guess it's normal that they could not win because he was mediocre yesterday.

QUOTE (Tennie @ Feb 22 2009, 07:16 PM) *
So the dirtyrottenscousers drew 1-1 with City.

Not the best result for them.

OH YEAH!!!! devil.gif Thanks Tennie!
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 22 2009, 05:43 PM) *
I have not watched their last games. My cousin who supports them tells me he's been their best player in the new year and basically he's been the one winning them the matches lately. I think he's scored or assisted all the goals they have produced in the new year.

So I guess it's normal that they could not win because he was mediocre yesterday.

He's very under-rated, if he leaves Arsenal, whoever gets him will be getting a top class player on their hands.

Newcastle 0-0 Everton. Good result for Newcastle considering they had 10 men for the whole second half.
Jack Sparrow
cool.gif It's Newcastle b!tch! Wait till next season... tongue.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 22 2009, 07:32 PM) *
cool.gif It's Newcastle b!tch! Wait till next season... tongue.gif

I think Newcastle will win the league next season. The Championship that is. I so hope that they're near the bottom last game of the season, I can't think of many things I'd enjoy more than relegated Newcastle at VP!
Jack Sparrow
Silence!! I KILL YOU!!
Locke Lamora
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 22 2009, 08:32 PM) *
cool.gif It's Newcastle b!tch! Wait till next season... tongue.gif


Next season...wait 'till next season...this reminds me of a certain club...oh god. Oh dear god.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Feb 22 2009, 10:15 PM) *
Next season...wait 'till next season...this reminds me of a certain club...oh god. Oh dear god.

biggrin.gif
dst
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 22 2009, 09:20 PM) *
He's very under-rated, if he leaves Arsenal, whoever gets him will be getting a top class player on their hands.

Newcastle 0-0 Everton. Good result for Newcastle considering they had 10 men for the whole second half.

I always liked and rated him. Along with Toure and Walcott, they're the only players I like from Arsenal's current squad. I guess he is underrated since there don't seem to be many teams interested in his services. I'd him in Milan but I don't think he's what we need.

I like it how you don't mention this being a good result also for Villa. You're used to fighting for 3rd now, not 5th huh biatch? tongue.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 22 2009, 10:41 PM) *
I always liked and rated him. Along with Toure and Walcott, they're the only players I like from Arsenal's current squad. I guess he is underrated since there don't seem to be many teams interested in his services. I'd him in Milan but I don't think he's what we need.

Never thought much of Toure myself. Walcott is very up and down, he barely ever scores in the Premier League, then scores a hat-trick in a big England game while playing RM. blink.gif

I like Clichy, except when he's talking trash about us.

QUOTE (dst @ Feb 22 2009, 10:41 PM) *
I like it how you don't mention this being a good result also for Villa. You're used to fighting for 3rd now, not 5th huh biatch? tongue.gif

I'm stil not 100% certain that Everton won't catch us, so I'm not going to say we're definitly top 5 yet. In saying that, we could realistically finish as high as 2nd. We're only 4 points off Liverpool in 2nd and 1 behind Chelsea in 3rd. Both of them have given up on winning the league, United are way clear now, so if both of them do well in the CL, we may be able to sneak up on them. biggrin.gif
dst
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 23 2009, 01:06 AM) *
Never thought much of Toure myself. Walcott is very up and down, he barely ever scores in the Premier League, then scores a hat-trick in a big England game while playing RM. blink.gif

I like Clichy, except when he's talking trash about us.

Not talking about them as players (though I think Toure is a great CB) only. Walcott has still a long way to go but there's something I like in him.

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 23 2009, 01:06 AM) *
I'm stil not 100% certain that Everton won't catch us, so I'm not going to say we're definitly top 5 yet. In saying that, we could realistically finish as high as 2nd. We're only 4 points off Liverpool in 2nd and 1 behind Chelsea in 3rd. Both of them have given up on winning the league, United are way clear now, so if both of them do well in the CL, we may be able to sneak up on them. biggrin.gif

I hope not to see fool do well in the CL.

Again... Hala Madrid!!
kurtsimonw
Kevin Nolan red card

Here's the sending off from today. It doesn't look that bad to begin with, even on the first replay, but the second replay.. it's a horror tackle.
Habitant
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 22 2009, 11:17 PM) *
Not talking about them as players (though I think Toure is a great CB) only. Walcott has still a long way to go but there's something I like in him.


I hope not to see fool do well in the CL.

Again... Hala Madrid!!

and glory glory man united? d0000de what has become of dst?

i hope it's not drugs, if thats the case i'm here for ya tongue.gif
dst
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 23 2009, 03:53 AM) *
Kevin Nolan red card

Here's the sending off from today. It doesn't look that bad to begin with, even on the first replay, but the second replay.. it's a horror tackle.

Exactly... it's weird how it does not look that bad at all until the second replay. unsure.gif But damn that's a clumsy, reckless and stupid tackle!! mad.gif He should get three weeks off too... you just don't jump on your opponent's leg like that, it's not in the frame of football challenges.

QUOTE (Habitant @ Feb 23 2009, 06:02 AM) *
and glory glory man united? d0000de what has become of dst?

i hope it's not drugs, if thats the case i'm here for ya tongue.gif

the drugs don't work anymore... sad.gif I want inter and fool out. then I'll be against Madrid and Utd. tongue.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 23 2009, 11:36 AM) *
Exactly... it's weird how it does not look that bad at all until the second replay. unsure.gif But damn that's a clumsy, reckless and stupid tackle!! mad.gif He should get three weeks off too... you just don't jump on your opponent's leg like that, it's not in the frame of football challenges.

Should be a huge ban, but FIFA - as usual - doesn't have a clue in how to set the rulings for disciplinary problems. He'll get a 3 match ban I reckon, which is the same as some players get gor barely doing anything. Rules changes are needed for certain.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Feb 23 2009, 06:13 PM) *
hey kurt, how much do you think young and agbonlahor go for if we bought them as a package. i mean 10 million should be wonders for a mid table club like aston villa. tongue.gif

Both signed new contracts this summer so the prices would be inflated. We don't need the money at the moment, which would inflate the prices even more. We have no reason to sell them at all, so they'd be even more. The £ is weak at the moment, so obviously the number of £s would be even higher. You'd be looking at at least £25m/£30m for Young alone.

Agbonlahors not worth that much though, he's got lightning pace and is a great finisher, but his football brain is none-existant. Probably £15m though, based on what Walcott was bought for.

Though prices are often hard to predict. I could say Young is worth upto as much as £50m based on how much Tevez has been valued at (£30m) because he's a far superior player in every way.
dst
WHAT? The man's teasing you Kurt and this is what you come up with? I'm disappointed!

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 23 2009, 11:03 PM) *
Though prices are often hard to predict. I could say Young is worth upto as much as £50m based on how much Tevez has been valued at (£30m) because he's a far superior player in every way.

Haha! That's so biased. tongue.gif
Habitant
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 23 2009, 10:03 PM) *
Both signed new contracts this summer so the prices would be inflated. We don't need the money at the moment, which would inflate the prices even more. We have no reason to sell them at all, so they'd be even more. The £ is weak at the moment, so obviously the number of £s would be even higher. You'd be looking at at least £25m/£30m for Young alone.

Agbonlahors not worth that much though, he's got lightning pace and is a great finisher, but his football brain is none-existant. Probably £15m though, based on what Walcott was bought for.

Though prices are often hard to predict. I could say Young is worth upto as much as £50m based on how much Tevez has been valued at (£30m) because he's a far superior player in every way.

hahah young is realistically around £35m cuz tevez should be around 17-23m IMO.

but then keep in mind your team is bult around young and agbonlonhor's speed, while tevez is just a chip thats inserted in and expected to mingle with the likes or rooney, ronaldo, scholes to a certain degree.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 23 2009, 09:23 PM) *
Haha! That's so biased. tongue.gif

Biased.. but true.

Tevez asn't even god for West Ham, yet people seem to worship him. He was **** for 7 months, nearly got them relegated, then played well for about 10 games and scored a few goals that kept them up, and now he's a hero. unsure.gif

If he weren't from Argentina or didn't play for United, he would be labelled as not good enough, but the team you play for and your nationality seems to have a bearing on your ability for some reason.

QUOTE (Habitant @ Feb 23 2009, 09:29 PM) *
hahah young is realistically around £35m cuz tevez should be around 17-23m IMO.

Glad you think so. biggrin.gif
dst
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 24 2009, 12:19 AM) *
If he weren't from Argentina or didn't play for United...

... you would probably see this differently.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 23 2009, 11:30 PM) *
... you would probably see this differently.

Nah, it's the way things go. I thought Tevez was a waste of time at West Ham, so it's nothing to do with him playing for United, it's just that he's a fancy foreign name that he's even considered top half material.

I've seen and heard enough for my opinion to be formed in that way.
dst
The fact that he did not do well in West Ham does not mean anything at all... every player can be a flop when they he enters a new league. Shevchenko was far from brilliant in Chelsea too. Even Zidane was awful when he joined Real.

In my opinion, Tevez has been great with United.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 24 2009, 12:44 AM) *
The fact that he did not do well in West Ham does not mean anything at all... every player can be a flop when they he enters a new league. Shevchenko was far from brilliant in Chelsea too. Even Zidane was awful when he joined Real.

In my opinion, Tevez has been great with United.

I think he's been terrible with both West Ham and United. Well, maybe not terrible with United, he managed to get into double figures last season which is very impressive for a player of his (lack of) quality.

Maybe you're right, maybe Tevez doesn't fit this league then? That may very well prove to be the reason why he's so poor.
kurtsimonw
Everton beat West Brom 2-0 in the early kick-off. West Brom very unlucky to lose.

Chelsea lead 1-0 in the 3pm KOs, a great goal from Terry. Arsenal-Fulham and Boro-Liverpool are still 0-0. Watching the Arsenal game myself, they're trying to walk it in!

EDIT: There's been a goal in the Liverpool game. The awesome, awesome - and dst favourite - Xabi Alonso is the scorer.. for Boro. biggrin.gif
Tennie
haha. It was a dirtyrottenscouser own goal? Excellent!
kurtsimonw
TUNCAY! 2-0 Boro. Fantastic! biggrin.gif
kurtsimonw
Chelsea 1-1 Wigan!

EDIT: Frank Lampard wins Chelsea yet another 3 points, 2-1.

EDIT 2: 4 minutes added on at Arsenal, what the ****? There's been no goals, hardly any fouls, no bookings, few subs.. what a joke. rolleyes.gif

Todays scores:
Everton 2-0 West Brom
Cahill & Saha.

Boro 2-0 Liverpool
Alonso (OG) & Tuncay.

Chelsea 2-1 Wigan
Terry & Lamprd for Chelsea, Kapo for Wigan.

Arsenal 0-0 Fulham
Locke Lamora


Here you go kurt, the 4th spot on a silver plate is yours for the taking.
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