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kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Tennie @ Sep 15 2008, 10:14 PM) *
A cookie to Villa. (Fishdoll still wants a jersey, Kurt!) They're one English club I can like. They have a sane owner, they're fiscally sound, and the pub near the stadium is supposed to be cool (Holte End Pub, I think is the name). Plus, they've got a pretty good coach, a good percentage of local guys in the squad, and I find them entertaining to watch.

Yes, Randy did the Holte Pub back up, great stuff. He's put this club back where it belongs, we're the 4th most succesful club in the countries history and we should be back up there in reality. Alot of people slag England off and say our football is crap.. yet Villa are a team full of English players, not just that but alot of them are very young. 6th last season and 4th after 4 games this season, hopefully our form can continue!

We aren't a bad little club for a city of just 25,000 people.

QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Sep 15 2008, 10:14 PM) *
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Yep, my bad.
acid911
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 16 2008, 02:26 AM) *
Yep, my bad.

Typo error? huh.gif Or something else?
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 15 2008, 10:39 PM) *
Typo error? huh.gif Or something else?

I said Bent equalised, when his goal made it 2-1, so it wasn't an equaliser. Thankfully. biggrin.gif
acid911
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 16 2008, 03:39 AM) *
I said Bent equalised, when his goal made it 2-1, so it wasn't an equaliser.

Gotcha! wink.gif

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 16 2008, 03:39 AM) *
Thankfully.

Phew! biggrin.gif
kurtsimonw
I remember seeing a few players mentioned in the Summer 2008 transfer thread for Milan. Corluka was one that was recommended, Modric was another and Gomes another too. Corluka I've only seen play 3 times this season, but in all 3 games he's been terrible and the LM has made him look a liability. In these 3 games his side have conceeded 10 goals.

Gomes I'll admit was a keeper I identified as somebody I'd like at Milan, though he did keep Spurs in it a few times tonight, he flaps at every cross and let in a very soft goal from Young tonight as he let the ball slip under him.

Modric.. people said he was too lightweight for this league, and he wen off injured about 20 minutes and had very little impact on the game. He may have suited Serie A better, but he's still to prove himself in a top league and must improve massively.
Habitant
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 15 2008, 09:26 PM) *
Yes, Randy did the Holte Pub back up, great stuff. He's put this club back where it belongs, we're the 4th most succesful club in the countries history and we should be back up there in reality. Alot of people slag England off and say our football is crap.. yet Villa are a team full of English players, not just that but alot of them are very young. 6th last season and 4th after 4 games this season, hopefully our form can continue!

We aren't a bad little club for a city of just 25,000 people.


Yep, my bad.

*giancarlo mode on* i complete and utterlylylyly disagree with you, dumb @ss smile.gif who are what are aston villains? rubbish and overrated if you ask me. *giancarlo mode off*
kurtsimonw
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We had 7 English starters today, with 3 English players used as subs, so I'd assume he'd be saying how terrible we were and how we relied massively on our foreign players to scrape the win against the almighty foreign legion that is Spurs.

Talking of Foreigners. Pavlyuchenko.. this guy scored 2 past England, were England really that bad in Russia? This guy is so slow and his shot selection is poor, and so unaccurate. He's got some improving to do before he replaces cry baby Berba.
Tennie
Well in fairness to Pavlyuchenko, he's been in England all of what? A couple of weeks? It may take him a little time to adjust to the style of play.

I really do think it admirable that Villa field so many home-grown players (ie, players from the UK). Course, the odd Scandinavian is also cool on account of the Viking helmets. biggrin.gif

(Fishdoll awards Habitant a cookie for his humor above!) 96.gif
kurtsimonw
Ban him, this is terrible

I've heard alot about it, but this is the first time I've seen it, albeit a poor video. I've seen bad challenges before and there's worse broken legs than this one.. but I don't think I've ever seen a player go in with the intent on trying to injure a player like he has. I hope he has a 6-10 game ban, or is at least banned for as long as Fagan is injured, this really is shocking.
Tennie
(I'm on dial up) Kurt, is that the Newcastle injury thingy?
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Tennie @ Sep 16 2008, 12:36 AM) *
(I'm on dial up) Kurt, is that the Newcastle injury thingy?

Yes it is. Fagan isn't even in posession of the ball - or even within 5 yards of the ball - an Guthrie jumps on to the back of his leg with one boot and takes a wild swipe at his other leg with his other boot.. disgraceful. This makes Keane @ Haaland look nothing!
Tennie
Saw that one as it happened. One can understand the Geordies being frustrated given everything that's been going on but there's no excuse at all for what Guthrie did. A good long suspension is most definitely warranted.

(People from Newcastle = Geordies - do I have that right?)
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Tennie @ Sep 16 2008, 12:49 AM) *
Saw that one as it happened. One can understand the Geordies being frustrated given everything that's been going on but there's no excuse at all for what Guthrie did. A good long suspension is most definitely warranted.

(People from Newcastle = Geordies - do I have that right?)

Yes, that's right.

In other news, I've just heard that Juande Ramos has no intention of learning English! ohmy.gif I respect the guy for the great job he did at Sevilla, but that really isn't acceptable.
Portman
Thanks for the answers on my question.

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Another thing: DIC (Dubai's) today denied being interested on buying Newcastle, Liverpool or any other English club.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Portikins @ Sep 16 2008, 01:05 AM) *
Thanks for the answers on my question.

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Another thing: DIC (Dubai's) today denied being interested on buying Newcastle, Liverpool or any other English club.

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That's surprising. I thought it was almost a certainty that they would be Liverpool owners within the nex 24 months to be honest.
Portman
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 16 2008, 01:10 AM) *
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That's surprising. I thought it was almost a certainty that they would be Liverpool owners within the nex 24 months to be honest.

Funny you say that.
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Sheikh Rashid bin Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum the Dubai club President announced his intentions to invite English Premier league champions Manchester United to visit Dubai and play a friendly match.

"Manchester United will visit Dubai soon, I have a very good relations with United boss Peter Kenyon and they know that I support them," he said.

Sheikh Rashid was speaking to the media during celebrations when his team clinched the Prime Cup in Al Ain recently. He added that Manchester United was the only club that he loved in the world.

"I have supported them since I was a child. They perform excellently and have very skillful players." Sheikh Rashid also hoped that star midfielder David Beckham would not be transferred to any other club in Europe.

http://archive.gulfnews.com/articles/03/06/16/90378.html


This is the Sheik behind DIC. So much love for Libpuel ain't he?

Anyway, he doesn't need DIC to bid for the club. He can bid himself.
kurtsimonw
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"Manchester United will visit Dubai soon, I have a very good relations with United boss Peter Kenyon and they know that I support them," he said.

Eh? Peter Kenyon is Chelsea's Cheif Executive, he left United ages ago. huh.gif

Typical United fan, doesn't even know who works for the club. biggrin.gif
vnata001
^^^damn u kurt..i wanted to be the first one to be clever. dry.gif

"manchester united boss peter kenyon?"...huh?

chelsea owner - abramovic, gm- kenyon
man u owner - glazers, gm- SAF.
Portman
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 15 2008, 02:19 PM) *
Heh...Newcastle with Indian owners laugh.gif That would be the day. We'd be worse than Ashley at spending, but be Moggi like in the transfers. tongue.gif

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But they are the Ambanis, one of India's foremost business families. unsure.gif



Today I've heard, not about New-hastle but about a possible Ambani-Everton link.
This guy seems to have "some" money... meaning just the double of what Abramovich has.
Jack Sparrow
That's Anil Ambani. Elder brother Mukesh is even richer. sad.gif

I don't know, if they'll splash out the cash like Abu Dhabi Inc, but we'll see.

I'm still doubtful though. I think they're just looking at the top 10 list of billionaires, and associating them with any good club that needs money.
Bluesummers
damn porty that took you a while to get involved haha. I was waiting to see how the battle would go between you and giancarlo. It seems i missed out on all the fun sad.gif
Jack Sparrow
Why would Porty fight Giancarlo?? ohmy.gif unsure.gif


cry.gifYou complete me!!
kurtsimonw
Alot of talk today at how stupid football is. John Terry gets a 3 game ban for having a little pull on someones shirt, Danny Guthrie gets the same ban for breaking someones leg.. I think the disciplinary system does need a little change, that just doesn't work out.

He apologised on the Newcastle site and wants to arrange so he can apologise to Fagan in person, Hull have said they don't want his apology as what he did can't even be described as a moment of madness or just a bad challenge, he basically attacked him, Fagan still managed to keep the ball, so he did it again. He should be done for assault in my opinion.
Jack Sparrow
My two fav clubs in a mud slinging match. It's all Martin O Neill's fault. dry.gif
kurtsimonw
Read something unusual this morning. Apparently the UAE do not recognise Israel as a country, so when City go and play a game over there, in front of their new owners, Ban Haim won't be able to go as he won't get through passport control. How very strange!
Jack Sparrow
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I'm surprised you're unaware of this. Much of the Middle East and Arab nations do no recognise Israel. With the few notable exceptions I think being Qatar (or is it Bahrain), Jordan and I think Egypt. R7 would know more.
kurtsimonw
Nope, I wasn't aware of it. Apparently it's also the reason Israel play in the European region of football and not the Asian region. Well, you learn something new every day.
dst
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 16 2008, 11:13 AM) *
Alot of talk today at how stupid football is. John Terry gets a 3 game ban for having a little pull on someones shirt, Danny Guthrie gets the same ban for breaking someones leg.. I think the disciplinary system does need a little change, that just doesn't work out.

That does not surprise me... Barton is not only out of jail, he is even playing football... rolleyes.gif

As for leg-breakers, it does not matter if it was completely unintentional or if you're the nicest guy you should get a huge ban for being careless... and careless tackles that could threaten an opponent's health should also receive a big ban. For example, Bonera's tackle on Sissoko against Giuve last season.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 16 2008, 01:26 PM) *
That does not surprise me... Barton is not only out of jail, he is even playing football... rolleyes.gif

As for leg-breakers, it does not matter if it was completely unintentional or if you're the nicest guy you should get a huge ban for being careless... and careless tackles that could threaten an opponent's health should also receive a big ban. For example, Bonera's tackle on Sissoko against Giuve last season.

I'll be honest with the Barton situation, I have sympathy for him. He did wrong, served his time, had a huge ban from football, he's been punished, let him move on. But it seems everybody is jumping on the bandwagon now and it's pointless.

Hmm. I think there's a grey area with this. Martin Taylor in the Eduardo injury last season did very little, it was unintentional and a fluke incident. It would be very unfair to ban him for a long period of time or anything else, even if he is a Blues player.

Miss timed tackles are a part of football, so are injuries.. but what Guthrie did is way beyond that. He had no intention of going for the ball and took a wild swipe at Fagan, then when Fagan stayed on his feet tried it again with both legs.. disgraceful act which should end with him going to prison in my opinion, but it won't. Worst act I've ever seen on a football field from what I can recall.
Portman
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 16 2008, 01:32 AM) *
Eh? Peter Kenyon is Chelsea's Cheif Executive, he left United ages ago. huh.gif

Typical United fan, doesn't even know who works for the club. biggrin.gif

That news were from 2003.
dst
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 16 2008, 03:39 PM) *
I'll be honest with the Barton situation, I have sympathy for him. He did wrong, served his time, had a huge ban from football, he's been punished, let him move on. But it seems everybody is jumping on the bandwagon now and it's pointless.

I have no sympathy for him. I hope someone breaks his legs!
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 16 2008, 01:52 PM) *
I have no sympathy for him. I hope someone breaks his legs!

Okay.. unsure.gif
dst
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 16 2008, 03:56 PM) *
Okay.. unsure.gif

Shut up, I kill you! biggrin.gif
Jack Sparrow
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 16 2008, 06:28 PM) *
Shut up, I kill you! biggrin.gif


Go for it...we can feed bits of him to the fish doll.

I want the nose and ears as souvenirs though. devil.gif

In loving Memory of Kurt Walker:
He messed with the Greek
Went up the creek
Didn't have the time to find a paddle
Bluey and zd watched from the saddle
The Pirate king had him walk the plank
Kurt into the fish tank, sank!

The END....


It's kinda rough edged. I'll try writing a better epitaph tomorrow.
kurtsimonw
Very nice, Jack. tongue.gif

It seems Mike Ashley wants £400m for buying Newcastle, which is around £250m more than he paid for them. Now I don't know about you, but a managerless team who did poorly last season and started this season badly doesn't really increase the teams value? He may find it difficult to get a buyer at this rate. Of the 11 or so bigger clubs in England, 3 or 4 still yet to have owners. Why not buy Everton? A team that will be much cheaper, and a team that actually has history. Ashley needs to lower his price, because the only way Newcastle are ever going to be more than a good bottom half/crap team half team is if they have a Chelsea/City type owner.
Jack Sparrow
Well besides the price Ashley bought it for, he also invested a further amount in debt clearance and also as investments in the Newcastle academy. I'd reckon though it wouldn't have been much above 280-300 million. Is this guy looking to recoup his transfer money AND walk away with a profit?? biggrin.gif
kurtsimonw
He's done way more good than bad I reckon, by a distance.

Anyways, he seems willing to sell to less to the Newcastle fans. If 300,000 of them pitch in £1000 each they can have the club. But they'd be worse than Ashley since they're the most deluded fans on earth and it'd be a bit awkward to run.

Rumours of David O'Leary going to manage them.. Oh God please be true. laugh.gif
Jack Sparrow
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 17 2008, 04:49 PM) *
He's done way more good than bad I reckon, by a distance.

Anyways, he seems willing to sell to less to the Newcastle fans. If 300,000 of them pitch in £1000 each they can have the club. But they'd be worse than Ashley since they're the most deluded fans on earth and it'd be a bit awkward to run.

Rumours of David O'Leary going to manage them.. Oh God please be true. laugh.gif


It would depend. If Mike Ashley continues, the O'Leary is best, since you typically need a manager who's used to fighting with his back against the wall. Otherwise, if a new owner comes in, and he is willing to spend big money, O Leary is the last person I want in charge.
Tennie
The latest rumor in the Italian press (and even they don't think it's accurate) is that Bill Gates is interested in buying Newcastle.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 17 2008, 12:32 PM) *
It would depend. If Mike Ashley continues, the O'Leary is best, since you typically need a manager who's used to fighting with his back against the wall. Otherwise, if a new owner comes in, and he is willing to spend big money, O Leary is the last person I want in charge.

O'Leary needs money to do well, and even then he doesn't do well. Leeds were a decent club, he spent stupid amounts on average players (£10m on Seth Johnson!) and basically destroyed them, he came to Villa and had a good first season. Wasn't promised £100bn to spend so threw strops and nearly ended up getting us relegated. He would be a perfect fit for Newcastle to be honest, willing to spend silly money on players. Getting rid of Robson was a mistake.

QUOTE (Tennie @ Sep 17 2008, 12:35 PM) *
The latest rumor in the Italian press (and even they don't think it's accurate) is that Bill Gates is interested in buying Newcastle.

They must be taking the piss now, I think they're being linked with every billionnaire on earth.
acid911
QUOTE (Tennie @ Sep 17 2008, 04:35 PM) *
The latest rumor in the Italian press (and even they don't think it's accurate) is that Bill Gates is interested in buying Newcastle.

As rumors come and go, I rather like this one. 96.gif The black and white guys could use some strong backings. Of course, I know it's too good to come true, so yeah.
Jack Sparrow
Bill Gates?? Hahahahahahahahahaa laugh.gif Nope. Better chance of Paul Allen. Bill Gates...no f@cking way. C'mon Ambani!!!
kurtsimonw
That Dubai International bunch have just told SSn they aren't in negotiations, nor do they have plans to be in the future.
kurtsimonw
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Pavlyuchenko: I struggled on Spurs debut because Villa defenders 'didn't give me time to get to the ball'


Tottenham's new £14m striker Roman Pavlyuchenko admits he struggled on his debut because the Aston Villa defenders 'didn't give me enough time to get to the ball properly'.

The Russian found the pace and intensity of the Premier League clash a struggle as Spurs went down 2-1 at White Hart Lane - leaving them at the foot of the table after their worst start in 34 years.

And Pavlyuchenko is also worried about filling the boots of Dmitry Berbatov following his move from Spartak Moscow.

'Everything was unusual for me. It's a different kind of football, with a different speed,' he told Izvestia daily newspaper.

'I immediately realised that English football is much faster than in Russia. Our opponents didn't give me enough time to get to the ball properly.

'That's why I had practically no chance to score. So I'll have to keep it up and work on it.

'And about 20 minutes before the end, the strength started running out of me. My leg muscles felt unusually cramped up.

'But what I also felt was the amazing atmosphere of the Premier League.

'It's hard to describe. You should feel it. After each good pass or corner, people applaud, they even stand up from their seats to do it. It's really pleasant to play in such surroundings.

The 26 year old international added: 'I'm aware that Tottenham fans want me to be a replacement for Berbatov.

;I failed to score, so I'm not a proper replacement for him - yet. He was a key player and that means that if the Spurs people want me to replace him, they must believe in me so I hope that I'll manage to help the team.

'But I have mixed emotions now.

'We lost and that means the result was bad for us. As for my own performance... It was probably OK for the very first game.

'In London I'm happy about everything - except for Tottenham's position at the bottom of the table."

MoS

Oh dear.. for his sake I hope that it's a mis-translation or something. Do defenders let strikers have the ball in Russia or something? Or does he think we were going to be nice to him because it was his debut? Struggling to cope with pace, cramping up with 20 minutes to go.. not a good start, and like Modric it seems he's really struggling in this league. Maybe he'll come good but I don't see it to be honest, I think the only players that will generally transition well from another league to England are those in the Bendesliga, they tend to cope well over here.
acid911
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 17 2008, 08:24 PM) *
Oh dear.. for his sake I hope that it's a mis-translation or something. Do defenders let strikers have the ball in Russia or something? Or does he think we were going to be nice to him because it was his debut?

I thought he was paying compliment to Villa's defenders. unsure.gif Sounded like that, at least to me.
Zed.D
laugh.gif @ Palvlyuchenko's comments.

laugh.gif laugh.gif @ Bill Gates wanting to buy New Castle.
dst
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 17 2008, 06:24 PM) *
Oh dear.. for his sake I hope that it's a mis-translation or something.

I guess he meant they were much faster than he expected...
Jack Sparrow
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Newcastle owner Mike Ashley in talks with Kuwaiti billionaire

Billionaire Kuwaiti businessman Nasser Al Kharafi is the latest name linked with a possible takeover bid for Newcastle United.

According to reports on Tyneside, an intermediary working on his behalf that Al Kharafi is interested in taking the club off sports retail tycoon Mike Ashley’s hands and becoming Newcastle’s new owner.

Al Kharafi, 64, has a background in construction and engineering and is said to be the 48th richest man in the world with an estimated fortune of £7 billion.

“Nasser Al Kharafi has the money to buy the club, but the way Mike Ashley is going about things is wrong,” the intermediary said. “He is actually putting off any interested buyers with the price and his refusal to negotiate. If he genuinely wants to sell he is going about it the wrong way.

“At the last estimate Nasser was worth around US$12bn, but he still won’t pay over the odds for the club.

“Mr Ashley seems to think he can ask what he wants because he is dealing with people who are multibillionaires, but that simply isn’t the case.

“As things stand he will be returning to England without a buyer.”

Earlier this week it emerged Ashley, the Sports Direct mogul, had slapped a staggering £481 million price tag on Newcastle just 16 months after he bought the St James’ Park club for £134.4 million.

Ashley has been in Dubai with Newcastle director of football Dennis Wise to sell Newcastle after putting the club up for sale on Sunday following a fierce backlash prompted by the resignation of Kevin Keegan as manager.

There is talk of Keegan making a dramatic return to Newcastle should Al Kharafi buy the club from Ashley who reportedly snubbed talks with an unidentified prospective buyer in Dubai and instead drank cocktails.



cry.gif Now I know why R7 hasn't been posting. He's been busy...and I just sent him that text message as a joke. God bless his golden heart!! cry.gif wub.gif
kurtsimonw
I'll be surprised if it happened, but you never know.
Jack Sparrow
It won't happen. MA is what's the correct Anglican expression Mr. Walker? Taking a piss at us fans?

He doesn't want to sell. Just make people believe he wants to. He's hoping to tide over the storm like the Glazers did, and he's counting on being underground for it to help. The trouble is, this is Newcastle, not Man U. The fans are not gonna be content to just sit and watch. They're more proactive.

MA reasons, if he can get things right, Newcastle are such a HUGE money making proposition. There are just no rivals for loyalties. Besides there are a bunch of blokes like me who remember the Toon of yore and still maintain a large soft corner for them. Again this can be capitalised on.
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