QUOTE (Habitant @ Sep 13 2008, 08:20 PM)

^^ @ kaka's brilliant ronaldo's the best in the world we all know. problem is for those you dont agree witht hat, they dont really ahve any other options to pick from (messi, torres, and thats about it) but in the end it's more a campaign against ronaldo than a campaign for messi or torres. myself i hate united but i'm not ashamed to say he's currently the best, overrated or not no one comes to close to him right now.
I can't vouch for others, but I'm the first to accept that he's the best in the world at the moment.

That's taking his last season as a benchmark. An year before that everyone was saying Kaka was the absolute best. I never bought much into that, sure he had a good season with us and won everything, that's that. Result? Kaka failed this season. Let's see how CR fares in the next couple of years. The thing with me is I like to measure things by taking into account more than one seasons of a certain player. A player who can spread it consistently over a period of 2-3 or more years.
Even if CR scored 42 more goals this season, that won't change things as how they are now. He was the best last season, and he may be this one too, if no one steps up from other teams.

Where does that leave me? I'll still think he's on top of the world. And he's still an arrogant prink. I don't have to like him or think him as the world's best (ever) to enjoy his game. Let's wait and see where guys like Kaka, Messi, Ronaldo, Ibra, Torres, etc end up down the line once they're done.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 13 2008, 08:24 PM)

The thing is, people like to have it both ways. To play down Ronaldo they'll say he played in a great team. But apparently Rooney, Ferdinand, Carrick and Hargreaves are all over-rated, Fletcher, Brown and O'Shea are crap. So where's all these great team mates he has?
Don't know about his team mates, but Manchester has been an English titan for oh so long.

On their worst day, they are still the top 3 or 4 teams in the world along with Milan, Madrid, Bayern, etc.