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Hull/WBA is not relegation. I think the Magpies are more likely to be relegated than the Tigers right now.
You're always dissing my teams. I hate you!
You're always dissing my teams. I hate you!
The word 'luck' has been thrown in our direction quite a few times this season, but today whatever luck we've had this season has more than equalled itself out. We hit the post twice and had the ball cleared off the line, not once, not twice.. not three times, but four! Aside from these chances, there was some incredibley heroic defending by Wigan, throwing their bodies in front of our players shots. We deserved to win, and win comfortable, but their defenders didn't deserve to lose. Arsenal failed to win at home to West Ham, also with a 0-0 draw, so we have not lost anything today, if anything we've gained, that's 1 less chance for Arsenal to catch us!
I like Hull, but in my honest opinion, they're by far the worst team in the league. They have 1 points in their last 7 games. Had it not been for their early season form, they'd be bottom, I still think they'll get relegated personally.
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jan 31 2009, 07:14 AM) 
Hull/WBA is not relegation. I think the Magpies are more likely to be relegated than the Tigers right now.
You're always dissing my teams. I hate you!
You're always dissing my teams. I hate you!
I like Hull, but in my honest opinion, they're by far the worst team in the league. They have 1 points in their last 7 games. Had it not been for their early season form, they'd be bottom, I still think they'll get relegated personally.
Victim FC 2-0 Chelsea.
-Torres with both.
At 0-0, Lampard was sent off for winning the ball, and being volley'd in the leg by Alonso, who had already been carded. So instead of doing the obvious thing of sending Alonso off for a late challenge.. he sends Lampard off for nothing.
MotM performance from Mike Riley for Liverpool, will surely play a huge part in Victim FCs challenge for the title.
-Torres with both.
At 0-0, Lampard was sent off for winning the ball, and being volley'd in the leg by Alonso, who had already been carded. So instead of doing the obvious thing of sending Alonso off for a late challenge.. he sends Lampard off for nothing.
MotM performance from Mike Riley for Liverpool, will surely play a huge part in Victim FCs challenge for the title.
Poor Liverpool... they don't let them win the title... 
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 1 2009, 06:44 PM)
Poor Liverpool... they don't let them win the title...
It's not often I'll say that I'm happy United are unstoppable, but this is an exception. Even with every referee and linesman on their side, they'll lose!
Gerrard booked for diving.
When you're playing in a red shirt and Mike Reilly give you a yellow card for diving, then you know you're patethic.
When you're playing in a red shirt and Mike Reilly give you a yellow card for diving, then you know you're patethic.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 1 2009, 06:41 PM)
Victim FC 2-0 Chelsea.
-Torres with both.
At 0-0, Lampard was sent off for winning the ball, and being volley'd in the leg by Alonso, who had already been carded. So instead of doing the obvious thing of sending Alonso off for a late challenge.. he sends Lampard off for nothing.
MotM performance from Mike Riley for Liverpool, will surely play a huge part in Victim FCs challenge for the title.
-Torres with both.
At 0-0, Lampard was sent off for winning the ball, and being volley'd in the leg by Alonso, who had already been carded. So instead of doing the obvious thing of sending Alonso off for a late challenge.. he sends Lampard off for nothing.
MotM performance from Mike Riley for Liverpool, will surely play a huge part in Victim FCs challenge for the title.
Terrible terrible decision. Imagine the uproar had a 'poop player been sent off!
It was also ironic that gerrard done the same thing earlier and just got a talking too QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Feb 1 2009, 07:06 PM)
Gerrard booked for diving.
When you're playing in a red shirt and Mike Reilly give you a yellow card for diving, then you know you're patethic.
When you're playing in a red shirt and Mike Reilly give you a yellow card for diving, then you know you're patethic.
Thing is he does the same thing every game! Perhaps he should start seeing more yellows then!
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Feb 1 2009, 07:42 PM)
Terrible terrible decision. Imagine the uproar had a 'poop player been sent off! It was also ironic that gerrard done the same thing earlier and just got a talking too
Thing is he does the same thing every game! Perhaps he should start seeing more yellows then!
It was also ironic that gerrard done the same thing earlier and just got a talking too Thing is he does the same thing every game! Perhaps he should start seeing more yellows then!
Gerrard get booked for diving more than once in a season? No chance. The only reason he got booked today was because the ref knew he fucked up the Lampard decision and was trying to 'even' it out a bit.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 1 2009, 08:41 PM)
At 0-0, Lampard was sent off for winning the ball, and being volley'd in the leg by Alonso, who had already been carded. So instead of doing the obvious thing of sending Alonso off for a late challenge.. he sends Lampard off for nothing.
Haha I just saw it... what a shame! Victim FC alright!!
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Feb 1 2009, 09:06 PM)
Gerrard booked for diving.
Again? HaHaHa!!
Newcastles Shay Given has signed for Man Citeh. 
Really can't understand this, they have a young keeper in Joe Hart who will certainly not be hapy to be on the bench after he's just got into the England squad, so will have to leaeve. This leaves Citeh with an old keeper. I suppose money doesn't matter o them and Given is a very good keeper. No logic in the signing at all though.
Really can't understand this, they have a young keeper in Joe Hart who will certainly not be hapy to be on the bench after he's just got into the England squad, so will have to leaeve. This leaves Citeh with an old keeper. I suppose money doesn't matter o them and Given is a very good keeper. No logic in the signing at all though.
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Villa are deeply saddened to learn of the death of Paul Birch.
The former midfield star passed away this morning at Good Hope Hospital, Sutton Coldfield after a long and courageous battle against cancer.
Paul enjoyed a 19-year career as a professional footballer, making 462 first-class appearances until his retirement in 1999.
Between 1980 and 1991, he played over 200 games for Villa before joining Wolves.
We express our deepest condolences to his family and friends.
Spokesman Steve Tudgay said: "We are sad to lose another fine Villa servant in the wake of the recent passing of Johnny Dixon and Vic Crowe.
"Paul was an honest, hard-working player whose efforts always endeared him to Villa supporters.
"It's tragic that he has been taken from us at such a young age. Our thoughts are with Paul's family and close friends."
The former midfield star passed away this morning at Good Hope Hospital, Sutton Coldfield after a long and courageous battle against cancer.
Paul enjoyed a 19-year career as a professional footballer, making 462 first-class appearances until his retirement in 1999.
Between 1980 and 1991, he played over 200 games for Villa before joining Wolves.
We express our deepest condolences to his family and friends.
Spokesman Steve Tudgay said: "We are sad to lose another fine Villa servant in the wake of the recent passing of Johnny Dixon and Vic Crowe.
"Paul was an honest, hard-working player whose efforts always endeared him to Villa supporters.
"It's tragic that he has been taken from us at such a young age. Our thoughts are with Paul's family and close friends."
RIP Birchy.
A very sad week for AVFC. First of all our last FA Cup winning manager, Vic Crowe passed away. Then the captain of that FA Cup winning side, and a man that played 17 years for the claret and blue, Johnny Dixon passed away. Now a loyal servant and great bloke in Paul Birch.
The Arshavin saga has finally been put to and.
We've signed him.
Hurray.
We've signed him.
Hurray.
I don't know what to think of it. No two words about Arshavin and his talent, which he has more than ample amount of. Who knows, maybe he'll flourish in a club like Arsenal, maybe they'll bring out the best in him? If there was one club where I'd have suggested him to go, it'd have been the Gunners. He isn't exactly young; isn't too old either. I'm curious to see what kind of a show he puts up in London.
Here's a beer, Lock, for your new signing. Been a while:
If there was one club where I'd have suggested him to go, it'd have been the Gunners. He isn't exactly young; isn't too old either. I'm curious to see what kind of a show he puts up in London. Here's a beer, Lock, for your new signing. Been a while:
QUOTE (acid911 @ Feb 4 2009, 03:20 PM)
I don't know what to think of it. No two words about Arshavin and his talent, which he has more than ample amount of. Who knows, maybe he'll flourish in a club like Arsenal, maybe they'll bring out the best in him? If there was one club where I'd have suggested him to go, it'd have been the Gunners. He isn't exactly young; isn't too old either. I'm curious to see what kind of a show he puts up in London.
Here's a beer, Lock, for your new signing. Been a while:
If there was one club where I'd have suggested him to go, it'd have been the Gunners. He isn't exactly young; isn't too old either. I'm curious to see what kind of a show he puts up in London. Here's a beer, Lock, for your new signing. Been a while:
Beer added.
I have to admit I'm kinda excited by this, its nice to see Wenger finally bringing in a big name, and just as nice to see us sign a player who is old enough to own a drivers licence.
Good signing for Arsenal, but still a bit unfair. The transfer actually didn't go through in time, it was nearly a full 24 hours later that it did. Alot of the journos have shown their sympathy towards Villa over it, because it's ******** really, though the Premier League once again shows it's true colours, there's only 4 clubs they care about. Fuckers.
Arshavin has the talent, no question. One thing the Euro's showed is that his fitness levels are poor, he was exhausted playing 3 games in 8 days.. he'd better get used to it.
Arshavin has the talent, no question. One thing the Euro's showed is that his fitness levels are poor, he was exhausted playing 3 games in 8 days.. he'd better get used to it.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 4 2009, 09:49 PM)
Good signing for Arsenal, but still a bit unfair. The transfer actually didn't go through in time, it was nearly a full 24 hours later that it did. Alot of the journos have shown their sympathy towards Villa over it, because it's ******** really, though the Premier League once again shows it's true colours, there's only 4 clubs they care about. Fuckers.
Nah, I think the deal was agreed on Sunday, but not unveiled until yesterday. Or something like that.
Frankly, I don't give a flying toss.
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Feb 4 2009, 09:19 PM)
Nah, I think the deal was agreed on Sunday, but not unveiled until yesterday. Or something like that.
Frankly, I don't give a flying toss.
Frankly, I don't give a flying toss.
Nah, the papers weren't even received on deadline day! If they were just a few minutes late or something then there wouldn't be an issue, but the fact that a team were given another 24 hours in order to complete a deal is not right really. In Wengers defense, he probably didn't see it was deadline day.
FT Villa 3-1 Doncaster in the FA Cup. We play the winners of Everton-Liverpool (Currently 0-0).
-Sidwell, Carew and Delfouneso.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 4 2009, 10:39 PM)
Nah, the papers weren't even received on deadline day! If they were just a few minutes late or something then there wouldn't be an issue, but the fact that a team were given another 24 hours in order to complete a deal is not right really. In Wengers defense, he probably didn't see it was deadline day.
Every top team in every top league gets some favours from time to time.
Didn't the FA postpone the deadline in England?
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Feb 4 2009, 09:54 PM)
Every top team in every top league gets some favours from time to time.
Sad but true.
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 4 2009, 10:05 PM)
Didn't the FA postpone the deadline in England?
The deadline is on midnight of the last day of the month, so August 31st/January 31st, unless this day falls on a weekend. If it does fall on a weekend, it is oved to the nearest Monday, with the deadline at 5pm. This was the case this year.
Everton 0-0 Liverpool.
-Gerrard went off injured after 15 minutes.
-Lucas was sent off for a 2nd yellow.
-Extra time now being played.
What's this then? I'm not supporting Arsenal here I just remember reading about this, I don't even know if it actually happened.
good goal by everton player 1-0 stopage time of 2nd half of extra time
everton win 1-0 they will play Villa now in FA cup
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 4 2009, 10:36 PM)
What's this then? I'm not supporting Arsenal here I just remember reading about this, I don't even know if it actually happened.
I do believe this happened, but the whole point of this was to allow teams to get players to take a medical. IF the medical was taken place before the deadline - which Arshavins was, he took a medical on Sunday - then it doesn't apply and the papaerwork still needs to be in by Feb 2nd, 5pm GMT.
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Feb 4 2009, 10:46 PM)
everton win 1-0 they will play Villa now in FA cup
I am not looking forward to going back to Goodison, not after what we did last time!
well i woudlnt mind some thing similar as the last time i support villa in epl
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Feb 4 2009, 10:52 PM)
well i woudlnt mind some thing similar as the last time i support villa in epl
You're from Nottingham.. know many FOrest fans? They must be gutted after tonights results! 2-0 up at home to your big local rivals, then you mess it up. Ouch.
Next rounds fixtures:
Sheffield United v Hull
Watford v Chelsea
West Ham v Middlesbrough
Blackburn v Coventry
Derby v Manchester United
Swansea v Fulham
Everton v Aston Villa
Cardiff/Arsenal v Burnley
Ouch. Poor Forest. They used to be quite a good team.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 4 2009, 11:04 PM)
You're from Nottingham.. know many FOrest fans? They must be gutted after tonights results! 2-0 up at home to your big local rivals, then you mess it up. Ouch.
Next rounds fixtures:
Sheffield United v Hull
Watford v Chelsea
West Ham v Middlesbrough
Blackburn v Coventry
Derby v Manchester United
Swansea v Fulham
Everton v Aston Villa
Cardiff/Arsenal v Burnley
oh yea many of my cousins went for the game they must by in terrible condition rite now
Hey I've heard Nottingham FC are the oldest football club in the world, is that right? Forest and Notts County are very old too... that place is football history itself!
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 4 2009, 11:46 PM)
Hey I've heard Nottingham FC are the oldest football club in the world, is that right? Forest and Notts County are very old too... that place is football history itself!
i think the oldest is county..... but something which is very intersting is that Alfred Edwards and Herbert Kilpin founders of Ac Milan were from nottingham and the red in milan shirt comes from forest and the black comes from county
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Feb 5 2009, 01:50 AM)
i think the oldest is county..... but something which is very intersting is that Alfred Edwards and Herbert Kilpin founders of Ac Milan were from nottingham and the red in milan shirt comes from forest and the white comes from county
I just realized I was thinking of a different trio of clubs... Sheffield FC, Sheffield United and Sheffield Wednesday are the clubs I had in my mind. Is there even a Nottingham FC?
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 4 2009, 11:54 PM)
I just realized I was thinking of a different trio of clubs... Sheffield FC, Sheffield United and Sheffield Wednesday are the clubs I had in my mind. Is there even a Nottingham FC? You fool!
nottignham forest and nottingham county are the clubs here in nottingham notts county is the oldest league club in the world
What makes a proper club?
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 5 2009, 12:17 AM)
What makes a proper club?
No idea, I just don't see them a one. Entering league football, maybe? The other Sheffield clubs were in it, so not sure why they weren't, don't think they've ever been in 'league football'.
What? You confused me...this is getting scary...
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Feb 4 2009, 11:58 PM)
notts county is the oldest league club in the world
Not sure about that, but I'm pretty sure Juventus got their strip colours from them!
Fishdoll waves hihihihihi to Ash! Good to see you around! 
QUOTE (Tennie @ Feb 6 2009, 06:16 AM)
Fishdoll waves hihihihihi to Ash! Good to see you around!
Hehe, even better to see the 'Gone' signature removed, even if it still needs some work.
Hiya Ash!
QUOTE (acid911 @ Feb 6 2009, 01:36 AM)
Hehe, even better to see the 'Gone' signature removed, even if it still needs some work. Hiya Ash!
Hiya Ash!Ha, sorry I went missing for a while! Been a bit chaotic sorting out a job for next year for my internship at University!
And acid, I know I definitely jumped the gun there but good to see some faith in football has been restored.
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Michel Platini Threatens To Ban Manchester City From Europe
The UEFA chief has stuck the boot into English football once more, declaring that the Citizens could be axed from European competition if they keep launching mega-money bids for the world's top players...
If there is one man on the planet who unequivocally loathes the trend of ever-rising transfer fees in club football, it is UEFA president Michel Platini.
The Frenchman has made no secret of his plans to license every team in every European league, so as to make sure nobody spends beyond their means in their quest for a star-studded squad.
The Premier League has, of course, stirred Platini's wrath more than any other, with debt-ridden Manchester United and Chelsea most often the subjects of his spiels.
But it is the blue half of England's second city that is the focus of the former Juventus star's latest tirade, and in particular their well-publicised (but ultimately doomed) pursuit of Milan superstar Kaka.
Platini said in The Sun, “How can a guy cost €150 million? For me it’s ridiculous — from a football, social and financial point of view.
“If you want to buy a plane for €150m or a boat, you can do. But for a man? For me it’s bad. It’s not possible. But it’s why we have to do something.
“I’m finding a system where you can spend what you have. If one Sheikh brings €150m for Kaka then you have to put his salary on top of the transfer fee.
“If the club go over their income with the player’s salary plus fee, they can be banned from our competitions because they don’t respect their budget. It’s about a licensing system where clubs spend within their income.
“Clubs who are banned will be replaced by those further down the table of that country who meet the criteria. It’s not to disturb football but to protect it. Many owners have asked me to find a system. I have to do that as president of UEFA.”
Goal.com
The UEFA chief has stuck the boot into English football once more, declaring that the Citizens could be axed from European competition if they keep launching mega-money bids for the world's top players...
If there is one man on the planet who unequivocally loathes the trend of ever-rising transfer fees in club football, it is UEFA president Michel Platini.
The Frenchman has made no secret of his plans to license every team in every European league, so as to make sure nobody spends beyond their means in their quest for a star-studded squad.
The Premier League has, of course, stirred Platini's wrath more than any other, with debt-ridden Manchester United and Chelsea most often the subjects of his spiels.
But it is the blue half of England's second city that is the focus of the former Juventus star's latest tirade, and in particular their well-publicised (but ultimately doomed) pursuit of Milan superstar Kaka.
Platini said in The Sun, “How can a guy cost €150 million? For me it’s ridiculous — from a football, social and financial point of view.
“If you want to buy a plane for €150m or a boat, you can do. But for a man? For me it’s bad. It’s not possible. But it’s why we have to do something.
“I’m finding a system where you can spend what you have. If one Sheikh brings €150m for Kaka then you have to put his salary on top of the transfer fee.
“If the club go over their income with the player’s salary plus fee, they can be banned from our competitions because they don’t respect their budget. It’s about a licensing system where clubs spend within their income.
“Clubs who are banned will be replaced by those further down the table of that country who meet the criteria. It’s not to disturb football but to protect it. Many owners have asked me to find a system. I have to do that as president of UEFA.”
Goal.com
I have always frowned upon institutions which are highly leveraged, and that is considering they have operations that support their case. Unlike a sports teams, which have nothing tangible to support its case.
I think I figured it out, how else could Barklay's support the EPL and promote the sport without inflating the cash positions of the clubs ? Sure the clubs in question are only a handful, still their accumulated debt would be classified as toxic assets in any bank's books and provisions have been taken out against those debts. The problem here is not whether the clubs can or can't pay back, its that Barklay's has let this happen and will continue with it, even with the current recession that is starring England in the face; entertainment will always remain the deciding factor for people at Barklays to overlook the danger of such an amassed debt.
I am not saying it is just England, take a good look at Spain too. But I am more familiar with the situation in the EPL, hence I stress more about it ..
If anything, I think Platini should do something about it. Clubs should operate based on the size of their Capital and not Debt.
P.S. .. in Davos, Switzerland a week ago, there was an interview I watched on CNBC with NBA commissioner David Stern - He stressed that the state of the NBA in the states has taken a hit (considering over 12 banks have failed in the US alone) because all NBA teams are highly leveraged.
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 5 2009, 12:06 AM)
sheffield plays in non league division
http://www.nottscountyfc.co.uk/page/Home/
2-0 win for Villa against rovers while chelsea drew against hull so now Villa are 3rd with 2 points lead over chlesea and level on points with Liverpool ( they play in hlaf and hour or so ) it seems that Villa should get UCL next season
A very, very good performance today. Had a clear handball turned down as well as 2 goals disallowed but very happy overall, Zat Knights been amazing snce he's filled in for Laursen! Goals from Milner and Agbonlahor (finally!). Milner is turning into a bargain and still so very young, thankyou Newcastle! 
7 away wins in a row, which is a new Villa record, thank you MON!
As for banning Man City from Europe, that's not right. Any team with a rich owner should be baned from Europe if that's the case, including Milan and Villa. How come it's okay for Madrid to spend World record transfers on players, but not Citeh? Hmm.
7 away wins in a row, which is a new Villa record, thank you MON! As for banning Man City from Europe, that's not right. Any team with a rich owner should be baned from Europe if that's the case, including Milan and Villa. How come it's okay for Madrid to spend World record transfers on players, but not Citeh? Hmm.
FT Portsmouth 2-3 Liverpool.
Yet another last minute winner from Torres. Babel missed an open goal at 0-0, which looked very bad when Liverpool then went 1-0 and 2-1 down. He, along with Mascherano, shouldn't be anywhere near a top 4 EPL team, really awful. Reina with a howler in goal too, just let the shot bounce over him, while he was kneeling down.
Yet another last minute winner from Torres. Babel missed an open goal at 0-0, which looked very bad when Liverpool then went 1-0 and 2-1 down. He, along with Mascherano, shouldn't be anywhere near a top 4 EPL team, really awful. Reina with a howler in goal too, just let the shot bounce over him, while he was kneeling down.
So, who's going to replace Scolari? Can't imagine he's got much longer at Chelsea after today's result.
QUOTE (Tennie @ Feb 7 2009, 08:23 PM)
So, who's going to replace Scolari? Can't imagine he's got much longer at Chelsea after today's result.
Can't really think of many available high-profiled managers around at the moment, though I'm certain Scolari won't be Chelsea manager come August.
Half time in the North London derby at the Lane and it's 0-0. Eboue has been sent off for 2 yellow cards, though his kick out at Modric could have easily been a straight red anyway. Very good end-to-end game so far!
In Wengers 12 years at Arsenal, they have 76 red cards, more than any other club in this time. What do they do in training, boxing or something?
(this feels weird, me making two post in a row in the EPL thread)
Spurs-Arsenal is being played today. It's scoreless at halftime but it's been eventful. Adebayor went off with injury (replaced by Bendtner) and Eboue - who according to BBC text commentary had been having a rather good game - was sent off in the 38th. Both yellows were for dissent.
One bright note for Arsenal: Eduardo is on the bench. First time he's been seen for the first team since that horrible injury.
Spurs-Arsenal is being played today. It's scoreless at halftime but it's been eventful. Adebayor went off with injury (replaced by Bendtner) and Eboue - who according to BBC text commentary had been having a rather good game - was sent off in the 38th. Both yellows were for dissent.
One bright note for Arsenal: Eduardo is on the bench. First time he's been seen for the first team since that horrible injury.
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