Sagna for £6m, aren't you meant to be defending Wengers' transfers.

And Kanu!? You paid that much for Kanu!? What a joke! I'd turn him down on a free if my team already had 3 or 4 strikers. Just a difference of opinion on Wenger, don't take it personal.


I'm still skeptical on whether he's good in the market, my opinion is that he isn't. That's why he has so many different players. His squads rarely last very long, who's Arsenal longest serving player at the moment?

Just a difference of opinion on how good he is in the market.

To end this, it is a FACT that Wenger has used less money during his 12 years at Arsenal than Mourinho did in three years at Chelsea, and Wenger has earnt back almost everything he ever used on transfers with the sales of Overmars, Petit, etc.

That's a silly argument really, of course he has, values have gone sky high since around 2003/04. As I've already mentioned before, Mourinho could have bought those players for much cheaper if he was at another club, but teams hold Chelsea to ransom as they know they have money.

Well it isn't like Wenger hasn't been on the transfer market since 03/04, and in case you forget it, the most expensive transfer(s) of all time took place before 2003.

But we're talking about a time where the EPL didn't have much money, and it was the Spanish and Italian clubs paying the big prices.

Fabregas was free.. As for Henry, yeah, good signing wasn't he? But he signed for a decent amount of money back then, so wouldn't you expect him to be good?

A good signing is like you said before, Toure for £500k or Vieira for £3m. And his transfers that rank as "shockingly bad" still outnumber his "good" transfers.

And talking of north London clubs, apparently Spurs have agreed fee's totalling £36m for Bentley & Arshavin. Obviously no good team wanted the latter and he was too up himself and has now made himself look ratehr foolish. After the Euro's, Arshavin stated he would not consider a move to a team not in the CL, even mentioning Spurs by name, now he's going there..

I believe what Locke is trying to get across here is that Arsenal don't need to bend over the the banks in order to get high quality players, like United or Chelsea. Which is very true.

To be honest kurt, I think you are a bit biased against Wenger in this arguement, there's no secret you dislike him and that affects your viewpoint in this case.

Don't us all? It takes a hell of a lot of guts to think impartially about someone we don't particularly like. And this is something most of us can't do. Always.

Yes, but sometimes it may make you say the craziest things to defend/attack the person in question, like making up and twisting certain facts and blatantly ignore others.

Most of the times. It's awfully hard saying good words about someone we hate. And not a bit easier refraining from saying crazy things about them. Oh well.

thanks, that's what I meant.

To be honest kurt, I think you are a bit biased against Wenger in this arguement, there's no secret you dislike him and that affects your viewpoint in this case.

This evening, Aston Villa can announce that Gareth Barry will be staying with the club following the interest from Liverpool over recent months.

During discussions in the past few days, a final deadline to conclude this episode was set that all parties were aware of and agreed to. This deadline has now passed and so Gareth will remain with Villa.

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MON's Barry Delight

Martin O'Neill tonight spoke of his delight at the news Gareth Barry will be staying at Villa Park next season.

As we exclusively revealed earlier today, Villa set a deadline for Liverpool to pursue their interest in the England international. That deadline passed at tea-time and Barry will not be moving to Anfield.

O'Neill never gave up hope that Barry could be persuaded to stay and consistently reiterated his desire to keep the player.

Tonight the Villa boss told www.avfc.co.uk: "Naturally we're all absolutely delighted that Gareth will be staying at Villa Park and relieved that there is resolution and closure to the transfer saga.

"At a very positive meeting on Monday it was agreed between Gareth, his agent, Mr Lerner and myself that a deadline should be communicated to Liverpool to finally resolve the situation.

"Liverpool were informed and that deadline came and passed. Now we can all look forward to the season ahead with relief, anticipation and ambition."

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Arsenal has beaten Stuttgart 3-1 in germany, on Lehmann's debut as far as I know.
Goals from Vela, Bendtner(his 5th or 6th goal in two matches) and Jack Wilshere. And yes, Wilshere is English.

Arsenal has beaten Stuttgart 3-1 in germany, on Lehmann's debut as far as I know.
Goals from Vela, Bendtner(his 5th or 6th goal in two matches) and Jack Wilshere. And yes, Wilshere is English.

did he blame the loss on the fact that he forget he no longer plays with arsenal?

That Wilshere guy looks class. Walcott and Wilshere... 2 English (and 2W's) in Arsenal's XI in the future? Wow!
So Locke, are Arsenal going to buy any more players? Have you heard anything about any DMF's? And had the Ade saga ended?

Would you guys consider it a good accomplishment for Spurs if they finished 4th?

I ask this because recently they have spent £10m on a keeper, £20m on a defense, £60m on midfield and £25m on strikers. That's £115m on their first 11 - somehwta similar to the number Ambromovic spent in his first year at Chelsea I believe. So they're spending as much as Chelsea, and more than Liverpool and Arsenal, so why would 4th be seen as a good finish? Do you think Roman would have accepted 4th in his first season at Chelsea? I highly doubt it.

So I think if Spurs don't finish in the top 4, it would be a huge failure on the return for the money they've spent.

Would you guys consider it a good accomplishment for Spurs if they finished 4th?

Would you guys consider it a good accomplishment for Spurs if they finished 4th?

I ask this because recently they have spent £10m on a keeper, £20m on a defense, £60m on midfield and £25m on strikers. That's £115m on their first 11 - somehwta similar to the number Ambromovic spent in his first year at Chelsea I believe. So they're spending as much as Chelsea, and more than Liverpool and Arsenal, so why would 4th be seen as a good finish? Do you think Roman would have accepted 4th in his first season at Chelsea? I highly doubt it.

So I think if Spurs don't finish in the top 4, it would be a huge failure on the return for the money they've spent.

It's an almost identical situation in my opinion. Except Chelsea spent wisely, Spurs are spending on unproven talents in positions they don't need.

Yeah... and don't you think that's the most important factor, Kurt? I'm just saying...

even Hanhemann is probably the best keeper outside of the Premier League.

You surely mean he's the best AMERICAN keeper outside the PL, not the best no matter the nationality...

I meant best keeper in England outside of the EPL actually, and we have some pretty good keepers lower down.

Anyways, first games of the Emirites Cup, or whatever it's called, were on today. Madrid beat Hamburg 2-1 in the opener, then the hosts Arsenal lost 1-0 to Juve. Vela looks good, but man, Arsenals midfield looks so weak, they hav no depth at all.

We played with mostly reserves though...and one complete hindrance called Eboue...

The Gareth Barry situation is just on-going, and quite frankly it's getting boring now. Liverpool missed the agreed deadline for Barry, but now Barry's agent - thinking Liverpool would have come up with the money by that deadline - has said that the deadline means nothing and Liverpool can still by him, so he's just made himself look like an ***. Barry's ehad is all over the place at the moment, Liverpool and his agent are doing a really good job ******* this club about.

(Maybe they confused Gareth Barry with a set of hubcaps?)

Great penalty from Adebayor that was.
Now I hope we score at least one more.

Match was over when I wrote that dude.

Hamburg got the trophy.

I guess you're right...I don't think anybody would have guessed Hamburg to win it though.

Arsenal did a good job, specially that 'footballer' Diaby who put Sneijder 6 months out.

These things happen, Diaby went for the ball, Sneijder was unlucky.
I don't remember you reacting to the Eduardo episode at all, so I must admit I'm a bit surprised you cared about Sneijder, who isn't even Portuguese...