Good news! Hopefully he'll see out his career with us, or at least this contract, before he moves back home or something. Can't wait to get him back, a real fans favourite here!
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Good news! Hopefully he'll see out his career with us, or at least this contract, before he moves back home or something. Can't wait to get him back, a real fans favourite here!
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 9 2008, 07:06 PM) 
Welcome to Liverpool, Keano. 
Bad news for Chelsea. Michael Essien ruptured the anterior cruciate ligament in his knee while on international duty. He's set to be out 4-5 months.
Ouch, not good for Chelsea!
In other news, Franco Zola looks like he'll be the new West Ham manager in the next few days, which I'm sure won't please the locals one bit. Good luck to him, kind of.
In other news, Franco Zola looks like he'll be the new West Ham manager in the next few days, which I'm sure won't please the locals one bit. Good luck to him, kind of.
With all the Liverpool players houses robbed, im surprised anyone wants to go there spider or no spider
"Capital of Culture" my a***
"Capital of Culture" my a***
QUOTE (Tennie @ Sep 9 2008, 11:04 PM)
Bad news for Chelsea. Michael Essien ruptured the anterior cruciate ligament in his knee while on international duty. He's set to be out 4-5 months.
Today there's a new here in a newspaper that it's interesting:
Basically they say the Man City owners are planning to rename the club to City only, taking out Manchester from the name. Probably it would be City Football Club, I dunno. Yes... it's about marketing and that sh!te.
Have you heard anything about it?
QUOTE
City sem Manchester
Os novos donos do Manchester City querem explorar a imagem do clube até ao limite e, para isso, decidiram que será chamado simplesmente de City, deixando cair a palavra Manchester, para evitar confusões com o United. A medida faz parte de um projecto já em execução.
http://www.ojogo.pt/24-201/artigo745498.asp
Os novos donos do Manchester City querem explorar a imagem do clube até ao limite e, para isso, decidiram que será chamado simplesmente de City, deixando cair a palavra Manchester, para evitar confusões com o United. A medida faz parte de um projecto já em execução.
http://www.ojogo.pt/24-201/artigo745498.asp
Basically they say the Man City owners are planning to rename the club to City only, taking out Manchester from the name. Probably it would be City Football Club, I dunno. Yes... it's about marketing and that sh!te.
Have you heard anything about it?
Not heard anything myself. That sounds terrible though, not just the name but the marketing idea. Having the city name in there would only be good thing, taking it out would be stupid.
Stupid idea, I'm sure it would incur complete complications with the FA, UEFA and FIFA...
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Man City's secret 'Virgin brand' plans revealed
by Anil Bhoyrul
Sunday, 07 September 2008
Manchester City’s new owners are studying plans to re-brand the club under the ‘City’ name that aims to emulate the success of the Virgin brand, Arabian Business can exclusively reveal.
The plans, contained in an 83-page document titled ‘A New Model for Partnership in Football’ obtained by Arabian Business, also outline possible partnerships with multinational companies including India’s Tata and China Mobile.
The document outlines a strategy to take the club to a global level, with major re-branding that would see it move into financial services, fashion, retail, transport, communications - and even fast food outlets.
It says the club’s brand must aim “to be the Virgin of Asia and the world”. It even features Virgin brands such as Virgin Atlantic as a comparison.
Among the ideas outlined in the confidential document are:
*A range of new energy drinks, in partnership with Red Bull, called “City Powered, City Energy and City 24/7”.
*A tie up with Indian car maker Tata for “Citycars”.
*A deal with China Mobile for calling City branded phone cards to be used in China.
*A range of credit cards branded “Citycard”.
*Branded mini-coopers, scooters and helmets.
*An entire fashion range.
*A range of food outlets called “City Eating”.
*A partnership with local boxing hero Ricky Hatton, dubbed “City Training”.
The document urges a major drive into several new areas of business, saying: “We are moving beyond traditional marketing approaches to create a new brand that takes the best of the football club but provides unprecedented value to our partners.”
It is understood that the document is being studied by Abu Dhabi United Group for Development, which last week acquired the club.
“It was prepared before the takeover, but obviously was a key part in the decision to buy the club, as it shows in great detail just what can be done. We are studying it closely to see how we can move forward,” said a source close to the club.
by Anil Bhoyrul
Sunday, 07 September 2008
Manchester City’s new owners are studying plans to re-brand the club under the ‘City’ name that aims to emulate the success of the Virgin brand, Arabian Business can exclusively reveal.
The plans, contained in an 83-page document titled ‘A New Model for Partnership in Football’ obtained by Arabian Business, also outline possible partnerships with multinational companies including India’s Tata and China Mobile.
The document outlines a strategy to take the club to a global level, with major re-branding that would see it move into financial services, fashion, retail, transport, communications - and even fast food outlets.
It says the club’s brand must aim “to be the Virgin of Asia and the world”. It even features Virgin brands such as Virgin Atlantic as a comparison.
Among the ideas outlined in the confidential document are:
*A range of new energy drinks, in partnership with Red Bull, called “City Powered, City Energy and City 24/7”.
*A tie up with Indian car maker Tata for “Citycars”.
*A deal with China Mobile for calling City branded phone cards to be used in China.
*A range of credit cards branded “Citycard”.
*Branded mini-coopers, scooters and helmets.
*An entire fashion range.
*A range of food outlets called “City Eating”.
*A partnership with local boxing hero Ricky Hatton, dubbed “City Training”.
The document urges a major drive into several new areas of business, saying: “We are moving beyond traditional marketing approaches to create a new brand that takes the best of the football club but provides unprecedented value to our partners.”
It is understood that the document is being studied by Abu Dhabi United Group for Development, which last week acquired the club.
“It was prepared before the takeover, but obviously was a key part in the decision to buy the club, as it shows in great detail just what can be done. We are studying it closely to see how we can move forward,” said a source close to the club.
http://www.arabianbusiness.com/530175-man-...-revealed?ln=en
Thank you. Just what I needed to hear early morning. 
As if the game of football isn't business enough already.
As if the game of football isn't business enough already.
These guys make Abramovich seem like a dream owner!
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 11 2008, 02:52 AM)
These guys make Abramovich seem like a dream owner!
*And when United fans thought Abramovich was the devil... they meet Satan.*
That's the part I like most.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 11 2008, 06:52 AM)
These guys make Abramovich seem like a dream owner!
Ditto. Can't wait to ride on a 'City bus' to buy a 'City scooter' using a 'City credit card'. Drink three bottles of 'City Powered, City Energy and City 24/7' drinks along the way, and on the way back home stop by 'City Eating' to catch a bite and sign up for a special discount training boxing course at 'City Training'. I've always wanted to learn boxing.
If this is the future, feel free to kill me now! I've had a great life, thank you.
QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 11 2008, 04:58 AM)
Ditto. Can't wait to ride on a 'City bus' to buy a 'City scooter' using a 'City credit card'. Drink three bottles of 'City Powered, City Energy and City 24/7' drinks along the way, and on the way back home stop by 'City Eating' to catch a bite and sign up for a special discount training boxing course at 'City Training'. I've always wanted to learn boxing.
If this is the future, feel free to kill me now! I've had a great life, thank you.
If this is the future, feel free to kill me now! I've had a great life, thank you.
Welcome to the EPL
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 11 2008, 01:50 PM)
Welcome to the EPL
I don't think that's fair to say.. this is a first time, actually, there isn't a first time yet since it hasn't even happened!
This guy wants to invest then, but he'll never make his money back. He's a billionaire anyway, why does he want to do all of this in the English economy that is currently terrible?
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 11 2008, 09:09 PM)
I don't think that's fair to say.. this is a first time, actually, there isn't a first time yet since it hasn't even happened!
You misunderstood what I meant .. The EPL is a very clear target for investors. It is so attractive, the media coverage is Worldwide (in comparison with other leagues and sports), the revenues are astronomical, the taxing system within the operations of the clubs involved in the EPL are rather decent, and the fact that Barclays back is the promoter they give club owners a hefty leverage, which is VERY attractive to any investor.
I have explained this point so many times and I wish you would look into it more .. As for there isn't a first time, the Glazzers bought United which was a team that already has a far reach in global marketing, Liverpool is one of Englands pride & joy, and Chelsea's marketing strategy reached here, the US, and East Asia like a typhoon in terms of media coverage and club merchandise. Then you have Arsenal, which you could get a free ticket for the game by flying Business class on Emirates Airlines. These promotions rarely, if not, never happens with the other leagues in Europe.
These Conglomerates and billionaires will continue to buy a stake in the EPL, more so for marketing and promoting the club and its products than anything else. This is not the first time, this is an ongoing system.
And Barklays isn't trying to trash the EPL, but to promote England and its football. Something which it has succeeded in thus far. And this coincidentally attracts the foreigners to travel to England and spend in England. If not then they could buy English products from right where they are
Which is very smart, as it always was a top class league !! My personal dissatisfaction is because of the monetary system which the clubs exploit now, it, for me as a hardcore football fan, damages the image of the game in my eyes.
Very well put, I agree with it all.
I think FIFA/UEFA will probably put some sort of spending limits up soon, as it's the only way to slow teams down.
I think FIFA/UEFA will probably put some sort of spending limits up soon, as it's the only way to slow teams down.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 12 2008, 12:26 AM)
Very well put, I agree with it all.
Oh, how the winds have changed.
I sure do miss the good old days!
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 11 2008, 08:26 PM)
Very well put, I agree with it all.
I think FIFA/UEFA will probably put some sort of spending limits up soon, as it's the only way to slow teams down.
I think FIFA/UEFA will probably put some sort of spending limits up soon, as it's the only way to slow teams down.
City, CITY, CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCIIIIITTTTTTYYYYYYYY!!!
QUOTE (Portikins @ Sep 12 2008, 03:56 AM)
City, CITY, CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCIIIIITTTTTTYYYYYYYY!!!
Robinho and City are going to get slaughtered by Chelsea this weekend. And I'm going to love every second of it.
I might actually watch that one. Should prove of interest. 
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 12 2008, 08:39 PM)
Robinho and City are going to get slaughtered by Chelsea this weekend. And I'm going to love every second of it.
Same here, City is becoming the laughing stock of Premier League.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 12 2008, 07:39 PM)
Robinho and City are going to get slaughtered by Chelsea this weekend. And I'm going to love every second of it.
I don't think so. Might lose but get slaughtered? You mean, like Milan did 1 month ago?!
City need time. So does Robinho.
The match is at 17:30 GMT tomorrow. But at 12:45... there's the biggest clash in UK.
QUOTE (Portikins @ Sep 13 2008, 02:28 AM)
I don't think so. Might lose but get slaughtered? You mean, like Milan did 1 month ago?!
City need time. So does Robinho.
The match is at 17:30 GMT tomorrow. But at 12:45... there's the biggest clash in UK.
City need time. So does Robinho.
The match is at 17:30 GMT tomorrow. But at 12:45... there's the biggest clash in UK.
Man City is the laughing stock of Europe right now. They think they can buy greatness just like that. They think they can buy anyone.
I hope they fail. And I hope they fail hard.
I hope for a 5-0 or 6-0 result.
Who cares about some friendly pal? City got lucky against Milan.
QUOTE (Giancarlo @ Sep 13 2008, 03:30 AM)
Man City is the laughing stock of Europe right now. They think they can buy greatness just like that. They think they can buy anyone.
I hope they fail. And I hope they fail hard.
I hope for a 5-0 or 6-0 result.
Who cares about some friendly pal? City got lucky against Milan.
I hope they fail. And I hope they fail hard.
I hope for a 5-0 or 6-0 result.
Who cares about some friendly pal? City got lucky against Milan.
In fact, I think there are MANY MORE PEOPLE laughing at Milan around the globe right now than of City.
Dunno why you talk about that... in that way. I mean, Abramovich bought "a top-team" for Chelsea in 2-3 years. Silvio did the same for us after Totonero in the 80ies. Why can't this Abu Dhabi do the same?
I hope they do, and I hope they triumph in EPL.
QUOTE (Portikins @ Sep 12 2008, 10:28 PM)
The match is at 17:30 GMT tomorrow. But at 12:45... there's the biggest clash in UK.
Porty, you follow the Dirty Rotten Scousers more closely than I do -- how fit are Torres and Gerrard? Supposedly they're available for selection, but it seems a little risky to field them if they're not at or close to 100% as a long-term absence for either could be Really Really Bad.
QUOTE (Tennie @ Sep 13 2008, 03:44 AM)
Porty, you follow the Dirty Rotten Scousers more closely than I do -- how fit are Torres and Gerrard? Supposedly they're available for selection, but it seems a little risky to field them if they're not at or close to 100% as a long-term absence for either could be Really Really Bad.
I think both will be on the first 11. Today Benitez confirmed they're back.
It's risky but... every player wants to play in a clash like this, even if he is at 70 or 80%. And a 70% Torres or Gerrard are more than superior to the great majority of the players in their positions.
QUOTE (Portikins @ Sep 13 2008, 02:43 AM)
In fact, I think there are MANY MORE PEOPLE laughing at Milan around the globe right now than of City.
Dunno why you talk about that... in that way. I mean, Abramovich bought "a top-team" for Chelsea in 2-3 years. Silvio did the same for us after Totonero in the 80ies. Why can't this Abu Dhabi do the same?
I hope they do, and I hope they triumph in EPL.
Dunno why you talk about that... in that way. I mean, Abramovich bought "a top-team" for Chelsea in 2-3 years. Silvio did the same for us after Totonero in the 80ies. Why can't this Abu Dhabi do the same?
I hope they do, and I hope they triumph in EPL.
Why would people be laughing about Milan? We had an aggressive signing season. You seem to cheer on Man City more than Milan these days. Why don't you go to a Man City forum? At least Milan has class. I can't say the same about Man City.
Silvio is an Italian and Milan is an Italian team. Heck... Milan is where Silvio has had most of his fortunes.
I hope they fail. I hope it all collapses.
On Wednesday day before the England game, Gerrard said he won't be playing. Maybe he's recovered better than he hoped the last few days then. The way he went about this surgery is disgraceful as he basically abandoned England. Turns out he's probably lost his starting place in the process.
As for City-Chelsea.. These are all the results between the teams since City returned to the EPL in 02/03. Not only haven't they beaten them, they haven't even scored.
07/08
Manchester City 0-2 Chelsea
Chelsea 6-0 Manchester City
06/07
Manchester City 0-1 Chelsea
Chelsea 3-0 Manchester City
05/06
Chelsea 2-0 Manchester City
Manchester City 0-1 Chelsea
04/05
Chelsea 0-0 Manchester City
Manchester City 1-0 Chelsea
03/04
Manchester City 0-1 Chelsea
Chelsea 1-0 Manchester City
02/03
Chelsea 5-0 Manchester City
Manchester City 0-3 Chelsea
Last time City scored: May 2001
Last time City didn't lose: June 2005
Lat time City won: March 1993 (The first season of the EPL)
I predict a comfortable Chelsea win, 0-3 I'll go for.
As for City-Chelsea.. These are all the results between the teams since City returned to the EPL in 02/03. Not only haven't they beaten them, they haven't even scored.
07/08
Manchester City 0-2 Chelsea
Chelsea 6-0 Manchester City
06/07
Manchester City 0-1 Chelsea
Chelsea 3-0 Manchester City
05/06
Chelsea 2-0 Manchester City
Manchester City 0-1 Chelsea
04/05
Chelsea 0-0 Manchester City
Manchester City 1-0 Chelsea
03/04
Manchester City 0-1 Chelsea
Chelsea 1-0 Manchester City
02/03
Chelsea 5-0 Manchester City
Manchester City 0-3 Chelsea
Last time City scored: May 2001
Last time City didn't lose: June 2005
Lat time City won: March 1993 (The first season of the EPL)
I predict a comfortable Chelsea win, 0-3 I'll go for.
QUOTE (Tennie @ Sep 13 2008, 03:44 AM)
Porty, you follow the Dirty Rotten Scousers more closely than I do -- how fit are Torres and Gerrard? Supposedly they're available for selection, but it seems a little risky to field them if they're not at or close to 100% as a long-term absence for either could be Really Really Bad.
Torres and Gerrard on the bench. Berbatov starts for Manu.
Edit: Plenty of hype from Sky for this game, hopefully it'll live up to expectation
QUOTE (Giancarlo @ Sep 13 2008, 04:57 AM)
I hope they fail. I hope it all collapses.
I second that.
QUOTE (Giancarlo @ Sep 13 2008, 03:57 AM)
Why would people be laughing about Milan? We had an aggressive signing season. You seem to cheer on Man City more than Milan these days. Why don't you go to a Man City forum? At least Milan has class. I can't say the same about Man City.
No, we had not.
Who cares about class? I care about Milan winning. Not getting humiliated by Chelsea, Bologna, Lugano, etc. Where's the class at the of the day?
PS: Liverpool is doomed with those 2 benched.
Was that a penalty? 1min played... Skrtel hand on Berbatov first shot as a Utd player...
2,5min: 0-1. Tevez. Assisted by Berbatov. So predictable.
Liverpool Startling Line-Up
Reina
Arebeloa - Carragher - Skrtel - Aurelio
Benayoun - Alonso - Mascherano - Riera
Kuyt - Keane
Subs: Cavallieri, Dossena, Hyypia, Gerrard, Torres, Babel N'Gog
United Starting Line-Up
van der Sar
Browns - Ferdinand - Vidic - Evra
Anderson - Carrick - Scholes
Rooney - Tevez
Berbatov
Subs: Kuszczak, Nani, Evans, Hargreaves, O'Shea, Flethcher, Giggs
Reina
Arebeloa - Carragher - Skrtel - Aurelio
Benayoun - Alonso - Mascherano - Riera
Kuyt - Keane
Subs: Cavallieri, Dossena, Hyypia, Gerrard, Torres, Babel N'Gog
United Starting Line-Up
van der Sar
Browns - Ferdinand - Vidic - Evra
Anderson - Carrick - Scholes
Rooney - Tevez
Berbatov
Subs: Kuszczak, Nani, Evans, Hargreaves, O'Shea, Flethcher, Giggs
Liverpool 0-1 United
-Tevez '3 - Berbatov assist.
Geez. Kuyt missing an open goal. What a PIECE OF ...
What a shocking dive from Reira, why didn't he just shoot?
From what I hear Berbatov's looking a bit too good!
damn , i forgot about this game ! and i was just updating the channels on my receiver . still 20 minutes to go before i can see the game again .
QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Sep 13 2008, 01:02 PM)
From what I hear Berbatov's looking a bit too good!
He's that good. Much better than the great majority of the strikers in England.
QUOTE (Portikins @ Sep 13 2008, 01:05 PM)
He's that good. Much better than the great majority of the strikers in England.
I agree. Always been a fan of him.
Only way Liverpool can score without Torres/Gerrard: United error, 1-1.
Van der Saar and Wes Brown made Liverpool's goal. 1-1. lol
LOL Van Der Sar and Wes Brown
Some people here rate Van Der Sar as one of the best 'keepers in the world
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Sep 13 2008, 01:19 PM)
Some people here rate Van Der Sar as one of the best 'keepers in the world
Every player in Man Utd is the best in the world. FACT. (Even O'Shea)
Just saw a replay and it looked like something from schoolboy football
I can't understand why he didn't catch it?
I can't understand why he didn't catch it?
QUOTE (Portikins @ Sep 13 2008, 01:20 PM)
Every player in Man Utd is the best in the world. FACT. (Even O'Shea)
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