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kurtsimonw
QUOTE (acid911 @ Dec 15 2008, 11:19 PM) *
Well for a team that's got the highest goal difference (+29), the most goals scored (36), the least conceded (7) was the best team in the league for quite a while, and is in 2nd place at the moment, he's got to be doing something right. Sure, his home record is appalling, but I won't mind that one bit if Chelsea win the league title this season.

As much as I'd like to see Arsenal or even Villa win it, I know for a fact that it's a long shot. Chelsea is my only hope for any of Liverpool and Manchester United not winning it. sleepysmiley03.gif And that's the reason the last few weeks have been pretty bad for me. I'm not a Chelsea fan, but there are some things I don't want. And those are: 1) Liverpool winning the league. 2) Man U winning it yet again. Plus the reason that I like Big Phil has got nothing to do with it, I promise.

He is great on the road, 8 wins in 8 I think, but to only win 3 at home is so bad. Actually, to put this into perspective, Villa have 4 wins, 4 draws and 1 defeat at home.. this is unacceptable. Yet we have picked up 3 more points at home than Chelsea, and you'd have to imagine their standards are set even higher!

In saying that, I think Chelsea have the best chance. Drogba has barely even played in the league this season, so hopefully with him back the home form will improve. If I had the choice of United or Liverpool.. United all the way.

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 16 2008, 12:12 AM) *
Why do you thin Vialli was bad? Okay, he wasn't good either, but that Barca-Chelsea clash...gee, one of the best CL thrillers I ever watched (in that format)! Remember Ferrer score?

Anyway, in England I support mostly the smaller teams, Blackburn, Everton, Nottingham,...and Villa, after I met you Kurt. Even if Villa had two of my alltime hated footballers - Bosko Balaban and Paul Merson.

Vialli never did too well in the league with them. I'm not saying he was bad, I just think Scolari is the worst since him. I don't really count Grant, he was never really full time manager anyways. Ranieri did a superb job with the squad, then Jose took them to the next level. So it's not such a terrible thing, but it's not exactly singing his praises either.

There are very few teams in the EPL that I like. Everton are my 2nd favourite by a distance, then I can only really think of Fulham and Chelsea that I even remotely like at the moment. Middlesbrough are okay, but that's only because of their manager.

You hate Paul Merson? ohmy.gif The guy is loved at the Villa, he was a genius with the ball, I loved him! As for Balaban.. I think he, along with Alpay, is probably the most hated player ever to play for Villa, by Villa fans. He was so bab, especially for £6m which was alot of money to us back then. Even Schmeichel scored more goals for us than him, and Schmeichel was only a Villa player for 1 season, a very embarassing statistic for a striker.
MizNelson
Heck, I say let Scolari stay for the entire season and beyond. I'd like to see Chelsea revert back to their good old days of mediocrity before Abramovich started buying them EPL titles.

On an off-topic note, I'm watching ESPN right now and UConn's basketball jerseys look horrible.
Tennie
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Blackburn have sacked manager Paul Ince after only three wins in 17 Premier League games left them languishing second bottom of the table.


From BBC.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Dec 16 2008, 07:53 AM) *
Heck, I say let Scolari stay for the entire season and beyond. I'd like to see Chelsea revert back to their good old days of mediocrity before Abramovich started buying them EPL titles.

I think everyone buys titles to be honest, it's al relative.

United may not have spent much in comparison to nowadays during the 90s, but they just bought the best players, off their rivals to. Cantona from Leeds when they were challenging with United, Andy Cole from Newcastle. Arsenal and Chelsea both spent alot of money on their titles too.

It happens everywhere. Juve, Milan, Inter always spend big. Even Lazio bought a league title a few years back. Madrid and Barcelona in Spain. There are very few teams who haven't "bought" titles in the last few decades.

laugh.gif @ Paul Ince. He was so crap.
Locke Lamora
Eduardo will be making his comeback against Portsmouth in tonights reserves game. All the best to him.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Dec 16 2008, 06:52 PM) *
Eduardo will be making his comeback against Portsmouth in tonights reserves game. All the best to him.

That's good to hear. I just hope that Arsenal haven't rushed him back, and that they've waited a good few weeks longer than they were told to, just to make sure his injury has healed properly.
kurtsimonw
Eduardo played 45 minutes for the Arsenal reserves tonight, before being substituted with a sligh hamstring injury. I don't think it's serious at all though, just an effect of not playing much, maybe.
Tennie
+1 box of cookies to Eduardo for making it back this far. When i saw his injury i wasn't even too sure he'd be able to walk without a bad limp.
kurtsimonw
They interviewed Eduardo on Sky Sports last night, he says his ankle feels fine and it's pretty much a case of just getting match fit.

Though, from a personal stand point, I hope he has a terrible season for both club and country, for the sake of Villa and England!
Fillipo Simone
Haha Kurt, I know you hope so... biggrin.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 18 2008, 05:12 PM) *
Modrić still didn't achive anything much but his potential and capacity is much bigger then Young's, trust me on that one.

Hmm. I don't know about that. In another league, Modric may be able to become a World beater, but he seems a bit slow and weak for this league at the moment, and pace isn't something you can really improve upon too much.

Young is the best real winger this country has had since.. before I started watching football. I'm not saying Modric is a bad player, but he played his football in a weaker league, while Young has already made Team of the Season for the whole league and similar acolades in one of the best leagues in the World. We'll have to wait and see. One thing is for sure, they will both be in the bracket of "World Class" at some point in their career.
Tennie
Kurt may have a point here. Modric may not be suited to the English game. Fillipo's got a point too though - Modric has immense potential. I think he'd have done far better in Spain or Italy.
Milan Are Brilliant
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 18 2008, 05:12 PM) *
Modrić still didn't achive anything much but his potential and capacity is much bigger then Young's, trust me on that one.

Not sure how you are so certain!

The only thing I'd look at is Modric was bought for £16m and Young was bought for £9m so in that case Modric should be a lot better. There's only one player out of the 2 who I'd say was showing more promise at the moment.

I'm pretty sure if Young was playing in the top 4 he would be easily above Downing and way above the showboater J.Cole in the national team. It's a shame that he's not in the England team currently. When Villa knock Arsenal out of the top 4 this coming May we might see a change, let's hope so.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Dec 18 2008, 05:29 PM) *
I'm pretty sure if Young was playing in the top 4 he would be easily above Downing and way above the showboater J.Cole in the national team. It's a shame that he's not in the England team currently. When Villa knock Arsenal out of the top 4 this coming May we might see a change, let's hope so.

It does seem pretty stupid. I do rate Downing, but to have him over Young is a bit weird. I think Capello has learned that playing for the top 4. or being a star name, doesn't mean you should automatically play for England. I'm sure if you were to ask people who our best CM is, the majority would say Steven Gerrard.

CM partnership vs Croatia: Barry & Lampard - Won 4-1.
CM partnership vs Germay: Barry & Carrick - Won 2-1.

And both were superb. I have to say Gerrard may find it difficult getting back into the team, or at least he should, because the above 3 names have been far better than he in an England shirt.

Robert Green for keeper as well, seen alot of West ham games lately and he's been top notch.
Milan Are Brilliant
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 18 2008, 05:35 PM) *
Robert Green for keeper as well, seen alot of West ham games lately and he's been top notch.

Ah 'the hobbit' good keeper though I agree.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Dec 18 2008, 05:37 PM) *
Ah 'the hobbit' good keeper though I agree.

Yep. Don't think he can pull of some of the saves that James does, but cerrtainly more consistant.

Artice on Young I took from a Villa forum (Source is Marca I believe, this is the translated version).

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Ashley Young - very good, very expensive

"I've been reading that Real Madrid are keen on Ashley Young, and it doesn't surprise me. Regular readers will know that I'm a big fan of this guy. Right now, he's the best player in the Premiership who doesn't play for a "big four" club. A guy destined to be a star for the national team, even if Capello hasn't managed to make him a regular starter just yet. The title of "the New Beckham" has caused quite a bit of excitement on the Marca.com message boards. But it's obvious that they are very different players; the Villa man is much quicker and trickier than David. But I will never grow tired of saying that, in my opinion Ashley is the best striker of a ball the Premiership has seen since Becks left for Madrid. So I understand that this comparison is based on a fundamental aspect of their games: free-kicks, crosses, defense splitting passes, creating chances with a simple touch of the ball. But I'm not going to devote this article to discovering a player many of our readers already know a lot about. All I'll say is, I'd sign him with my eyes closed. But I do want to make one thing clear: getting him out of Birmingham certainly will not be easy. He'll be bloody expensive, basically for four reasons.

1.) The amount Villa paid for him - Young was a star for Watford in the 2004-05 season when they won promotion to the Premier League. It took just half a season in the top flight before the big clubs came knocking. Aston Villa paid €13 million, an extraordinary amount if we take into account the fact that he'd only played 20 games in the top division in his entire career. He was the Birmingham club's record signing, and since then, he's never looked back. He's now far better known and a much better player than he was then. So, if he already cost over €10 million as a promising young talent, you'd expect his value to have multiplied by now, and not just by 2. In fact in England, the figure flying around is €40 million.

2.) The Gareth Barry saga - This summer, another important member of Villa's squad, Gareth Barry was the star of an incident which shows just how hard is it to sign a player from this club. Liverpool were very interested in him, but down in Birmingham they rejected one offer after another - according to the English press, the final one was €20 million. Not even pressure from the player himself worked. Barry publically declared that he wanted to leave, and even criticised his manager, Martin O'Neil for his attitude throughout the saga, but Villa stood firm and didn't give in. The captain stayed, and is a key player in the excellent season his team are enjoying. It seems the club wanted €25 million. Considering Young is younger and his departure would be more unsettling to the team, it doesn't take a genius to work out that Villa would want more for him.

3.) He signed a new deal in November - To dissuade possible buyers, Less than a month ago Villa improved his wages and lengthened his contract until 2012. The strange thing is that Ashley didn't ask for a new contract, it was his club who felt they should reward him him for his superb performances.

4.) O'Neil is crazy about him - I've never seen a manager give so much praise to one of his own players as the Ulsterman has to Young. O'Neil talks about him almost every week, always praising him to the heavens. Not long ago he even said he considered Young in the same bracket as Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo. Improving his contract was O'Neil's idea. It's obvious that he will want to keep him at all costs, because the club's aim is continue to grow and to become a regular in the Champions League."
Fillipo Simone
Well, I'm certain because I saw him play uncountable times. And Kurt you are right, him choosing EPL...that was the biggest mistake so far. But look at Kranjcar, he was slow and week at the start, now he adapted and does more then a solid job for Pompey. The same I expect to happen with Luka.

While you're right that Modric played in a much worser league, might I remind you also that he played both 1 World cup and a Euro already. He was great in Germany and solid in Austria to say at least.
kurtsimonw
West Ham 0-1 Villa in the live evening game. James Milner shot deflected off Lucas Neill for the goal. We're now in 3rd position, 4 points off top. MON. Is. Genius.

Man City in the relegation zone at the moment. laugh.gif
kurtsimonw
West Brom 2-1 Man City. Do City really think they'll get all these great players while they're in the bottom 3? unsure.gif

Arsenal vs Liverpool now, huge game for both teams.
kurtsimonw
Arsenal 1-1 Liverpool.
-van Persie opened the scoring.
-Keane equalised.
-Adebayour sent off.

Chelsea beat Everton tomorrow, and they go top.
kurtsimonw
Okay, maybe Boyd wasn't the best example. Milan Baros would be a good one. He has a great record for Czech Republic, and was good in International tournements, he also had a very good record in a weaker league. In the Premier League? Okay, when he was at Villa he would have a performance every now and then that was World class, but the majority of performances were lazy and bad. All of the above can be said about Modric - except replace 'Villa' with 'Spurs' and 'Baros' with 'Modric'. He scored today, but his overall performance was not good, he gives posession away way too often.

He may become a World class player, but the longer he stays in this league, the lesser his potential will get. In my opinion, of course.
Fillipo Simone
Yes, now I can partialy agree. Even though still, Baros is a striker and I think it's more easier to become well-known as a striker, then as a AM/MC. Also, Modric is much younger then Baros was when he came to Villa.

I wouldn't say Modric is a flop. I'd say Tottenham is a flop. And Modric just fitted in. Look at Corluka. IMO he had a great season with City, and now with the Spurs..he's pretty awfull. But yes, it was a bad mistake for Modric to come to England.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 21 2008, 10:18 PM) *
I wouldn't say Modric is a flop. I'd say Tottenham is a flop. And Modric just fitted in. Look at Corluka. IMO he had a great season with City, and now with the Spurs..he's pretty awfull. But yes, it was a bad mistake for Modric to come to England.

Yep, now we're on the same wavelength. It's not just the Croatians either, Pavlyuchenko's performances have generally been poor, as have David Bentleys. They need to stop throwing money around to solve their problems. Arshavin will be the next flop should he join them.
whoarethepatriots
The German football association stipulates that Bundesliga clubs must be 51 per cent owned by members, preventing wealthy individuals taking total control as in England. It also monitors the amount of debt that clubs take on, stepping in if there is a threat of insolvency. The benefits are plain. The latest Deloitte report shows that Germany has the highest average match-day attendances in Europe, not least because fans enjoy the Continent's lowest ticket prices. And it is an approach that has contributed to financial stability. German clubs are the most profitable in Europe, and their debt is relatively low, leaving them much better placed in the present crisis than many of their English counterparts.

The immediate response of many in England to the suggestion that they follow suit will be that German football is boring, that it fails to attract the world's best players and that their teams are not progressing far in the all important Champions League these days. But will they be singing the same chant if the Premier League bubble bursts on the sharp rocks of profligate borrowing and reckless ownership? The coming year will tell.


- Ben Chu, Independent (about a month old or so)
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Dec 22 2008, 01:59 AM) *
The German football association stipulates that Bundesliga clubs must be 51 per cent owned by members, preventing wealthy individuals taking total control as in England. It also monitors the amount of debt that clubs take on, stepping in if there is a threat of insolvency. The benefits are plain. The latest Deloitte report shows that Germany has the highest average match-day attendances in Europe, not least because fans enjoy the Continent's lowest ticket prices. And it is an approach that has contributed to financial stability. German clubs are the most profitable in Europe, and their debt is relatively low, leaving them much better placed in the present crisis than many of their English counterparts.

The immediate response of many in England to the suggestion that they follow suit will be that German football is boring, that it fails to attract the world's best players and that their teams are not progressing far in the all important Champions League these days. But will they be singing the same chant if the Premier League bubble bursts on the sharp rocks of profligate borrowing and reckless ownership? The coming year will tell.


- Ben Chu, Independent (about a month old or so)



Very bad time for the world right now .. And it is only the low leveraged institutions/clubs that might come out breathing fresh air at the end of the 1st quarter of 2009.

That said, Germany is truely a bench mark for me .. Their economy; 1.4:1.2 trillion (export/import), which leaves them with a profit of 200bn eur - 2007 .. They lead Europe if you ask me, in many ways and I am not at all surprised by the scheme they have set up for their clubs.

thanks whoarethepatriots smile.gif
acid911
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 21 2008, 11:03 PM) *
Arsenal 1-1 Liverpool.
-van Persie opened the scoring.
-Keane equalised.
-Adebayour sent off.

Chelsea beat Everton tomorrow, and they go top.

HALLELUJAH!

kurtsimonw
I still can't believe that we're 3rd in the league. Considering we have been poor 1 in every 2 games makes it even more confusing!

acid911
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 22 2008, 05:58 AM) *
I still can't believe that we're 3rd in the league. Considering we have been poor 1 in every 2 games makes it even more confusing!

Maybe SAF was right when he said the Aston Villa could win the league this year? innocent.gif Anyway, the only thing I want for Christmas from Santa is Chelsea winning so they head into the new year as the top team. Arsenal I think are in a position, pretty similar to Milan - them becoming Champions will be nothing short of a miracle. Like us. Of course, I won't mind that one bit.

So, why are two matches scheduled for tomorrow, Kurt? Any specific reason for this?
MizNelson
Good to see A. Villa breaking up the Big Four at the top. Hopefully they'll stay there the rest of the season.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (acid911 @ Dec 22 2008, 01:08 AM) *
Maybe SAF was right when he said the Aston Villa could win the league this year? innocent.gif Anyway, the only thing I want for Christmas from Santa is Chelsea winning so they head into the new year as the top team. Arsenal I think are in a position, pretty similar to Milan - them becoming Champions will be nothing short of a miracle. Like us. Of course, I won't mind that one bit.

So, why are two matches scheduled for tomorrow, Kurt? Any specific reason for this?

Arsenal can still win the league, but they have to win on Friday. I can't say I want Chelsea to win, usually I would, but when we're so close to the top.. there's no point in wanting the situation to be worse for your own team.

Two? As far as I'm aware, only Everton-Chelsea is tomorrow. The reason is that Setanta get a number of Monday night games every so often, so that's jus another one of those.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Dec 22 2008, 02:51 AM) *
Good to see A. Villa breaking up the Big Four at the top. Hopefully they'll stay there the rest of the season.

If we beat Arsenal on Friday, I think our fans have ever right to be optimistic. biggrin.gif

I think they'll beat us, comfortabley, though.
MizNelson
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 21 2008, 06:53 PM) *
If we beat Arsenal on Friday, I think our fans have ever right to be optimistic. biggrin.gif

I think they'll beat us, comfortabley, though.

Stranger things have happened, and Arsenal tend to run hot and cold. Be optimistic. smile.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Dec 22 2008, 04:07 AM) *
Stranger things have happened, and Arsenal tend to run hot and cold. Be optimistic. smile.gif

I'm pesimistic by nature, all Brummies are, we're a miserable bunch really. tongue.gif
KillerMax
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 21 2008, 11:40 PM) *
I'm pesimistic by nature, all Brummies are, we're a miserable bunch really. tongue.gif


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kurtsimonw
Laursen is an injury worry for the game against Arsenal. Not only that, but it's a knee injury which is very worrying since he missed 18 months of football when he first joined us due to his knee problem, so there's a possibility it could be very serious.

The first time we're ever seriously competing at the top and we lose our most experienced striker and most experienced defender. Fantastic. rolleyes.gif
Fillipo Simone
I'm all for Villa this season. Hope you guys secure at least a CL entry.
kurtsimonw
FT Everton 0-0 Chelsea. Terry was sent off in the 1st half.

So the "big 4" have now gone 16 days without a win in the league. In this time, Villa have 3 league wins.
dst
Come ooooooonnn Chelsea!!! Damn it!

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 22 2008, 10:24 PM) *
Laursen is an injury worry for the game against Arsenal. Not only that, but it's a knee injury which is very worrying since he missed 18 months of football when he first joined us due to his knee problem, so there's a possibility it could be very serious.

Is it the same knee?
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (dst @ Dec 22 2008, 11:31 PM) *
Is it the same knee?

Unfortunately he's done both of his knees in, in the past. sad.gif

I love MON, when asked about whether we could finish in the top 4 he responded with "..........have you been drinking?". biggrin.gif
Fillipo Simone
MON?

I think Villa can finish 4th.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 23 2008, 12:44 AM) *
MON?

Martin O'Neill, for short.

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 23 2008, 12:44 AM) *
I think Villa can finish 4th.

It depends on key injuries.

We have Carew our, leaving Gabby as our only real striker. We have Harewood and Delfouneso who play in the Cups when we send out a weaker team, but they have a combined 1 EPL start for us, between them.

If Laursen is out, that's big. Not only is he our captain and best defender, but with Freddie already sidelined, Shorey facing a confidence crisis and Knight in shocking form whenever he plays, that leaves us with a RB (Luke Young) playing LB, Reo-Coker - a CM - playing RB and Cuellar-Davies in the middle. But we have nobody else!

If we have any chance of 4th, we have to win on Friday, in my opinion. Or we can afford to draw IF the Laursen injury isn't too bad.
kurtsimonw
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Habitant
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you sir have a man crush tongue.gif
Habitant
hehe kurt must be happy , villa came back to draw 2-2, zat scoring in the 91st
CrazyMilanFan
but villa deserved to win by a big margin imo
CrazyMilanFan
wenger vs MON was gud as well
Locke Lamora
That clearance by Sagna...still don't rate him Kurt?
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Dec 27 2008, 12:30 AM) *
That clearance by Sagna...still don't rate him Kurt?

Meh, he's alright. Got owned by the Young and Young combination all night long though. Credit to Sagna, he did get an assist today as well.. for Zat Knight. Never said I don't rate him to be honest, OVER-rated because he plays for Arsenal? Certainly.

Disappointed with the result, obviously as we battered them. A win of 2/3 goals would have been acceptable, but I'd take this result considering we were 2 down. What the **** was the ref on today? How was Gallas' "challenge" not a straight red? Disgraceful.

Man for man today, we were better than Arsenal all over the pitch, we dominated them both home and away. It seems like we are for real. Quite funy to hear Wengers injuries excuse.. err... did you not see the Villa line up today? Prick.

The chants of "You need more Englishmen" were quite enjoyable. biggrin.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Dec 26 2008, 11:33 PM) *
wenger vs MON was gud as well

Didn't understand that one bit at all. I just don't see what Wenger was complaining about? blink.gif

EDIT: Just watchinng Wengers post-match comments.. what a miserable prick.
Interviewer: Arsene, do you think you were attacking too much at the end as you were caught with not enough players back?
Wenger: If anything, we had too many players back.

Was he even watching the game!? They had 3 defenders back to mark 4 Villa players in the box, how is that too many!?

The Wenger, Wenger, you're a c*** chants were spot on.
Locke Lamora
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 27 2008, 02:53 AM) *
The Wenger, Wenger, you're a c*** chants were spot on.


Oh how classy.
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