Sorry for double posting, but...

M'boro 2-1 Tottenham. Mido scores against his old club 2 minutes after coming on.

And there was history made today. Hull City won its first ever Premiership game... that's special for them. I hope they do well as I view them as the underdogs... they came back from one goal down.

Hull City 2 - Fulham 1.

Highlights:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTB3xNpo7Wo

Justin Hoyte has been sold to M'Boro...can't say I'm sad to see him go.

http://vdo.me//play.php?vid=180

What a screamer by Torres in an awful display by Liverpool.

I agree you should just go for the 3 points, and that's what you got. But West Brom are a Championship quality team who lost their best two players (Phillips & Gera) over the summer, but they had no trouble walking through your midfield. Posession? Yes, you did have tonnes more posession, I never questioned Arsenals ability with the ball, but football is a game of two teams, so you also need to be good when THEY have the ball. And for me, Johan Djouru saved your *** with that clearance off the line. I just wasn't impressed at all.

Adebayor was very poor. When he missed his 5th chance even the Arsenal fans began to boo him, which is a good indicator of how poor he was.

In my opinion, you need a DM of some kind, you can't play with that midfield again. Just look at Spurs today, all these high profiled flair signings, but they played with no DM, and look what happens, they get beat against Boro. They didn't even create many chances, and their goal was scored by a Boro player.


Steinsson owns Stoke


It was a poor display from Liverpool, but they were unlucky not to be leading earlier. What was Keane doing blocking Torres' certain goal?

Yup.

You and a billion others, good on them.

No chance they are staying up though.

Often happens in the first game, I mean even Derby drew there's last season

Well I'd never wish Hull the same fate (I personally hope they at least survive a season... Sunderland finally did it... keep in mind Sunderland had the lowest point record ever in the Top flight a few years ago, though Derby even had less). Hull seem to have an all around stronger team than Derby, but I'll shut up now and say something mid way through the season. Geovanni is not bad...

They have such a terrible squad. They're going to rely heavily on Geovanni to create anything, if he gets injured.. God help them. There is a long history of teams doing well when they first get promoted, but that'll soon change.


Sunderland are too big for the Championship, they're a big club with a board willing to invest money, there was never any doubt they were going to be safe last season for me.

I'm not sure why Man City released Geovanni, he only seemed to play the first half of the season for them - which coicidentally they did very well - then seemed to stop playing him for some reason.

Chelsea 3-0 Portsmouth HT [J.Cole, Anelka & Lampard]

The passing game from Chelsea has been first class.

their game is much more entertaining than the Chelsea that played under Mourinho or Grant .. Reminds me of Brazil, literally

MANU 1-1 Newcastle 24 mins

Villa trashed City 4:2. Kurt will be drunk today

Congrats kurt

12 Mikel J.
20 Deco
10 Cole J.
8 Lampard F.
13 Ballack M.

Chelsea's midfield today theres just so much going on there.

substitue mikel or ballack for essien and wow thats scary especially when they play a target man like drogba...

IMO deco adds so much to their midfield

kurt will be very happy after man city tie it mid 2nd half baggy gets a hat trick in an 8 minute span!

Scary stuff. So much world class players in one team!

and theres no essien in there! who in IMO the best of all of them.

so no glory for the glory hunters, 1-1

So, I'm really happy I have Agbonlahor on my fantasy team, yepyep. Congrats to the very happy (and tipsy?) Kurt on Villa's big win over City! Congrats also to Jack, whose Newcastle drew away with Glory Hunters FC.

They've probably converted back to Chelsea now!

I'm too busy at the moment to follow EPL results, but I reckon you're referring to Manchester United's match, right?

Am I the only one here who does not despise United?

Maybe. But surely there isn't much to like about United. They're right on top of my shtick list after Liverpool.

Like? I don't like them... I just can't see where all this hating comes from... Besides, the Liverpool fanboys hate them so... that makes them my allies...

Liverpool fanboys hate inter too.

But I see where you're coming from. I only dislike them (hate is too strong a word for someone like me) for their arrogance, their we-always-win-because-we-always-deserve-it mentality. Having said that, my respect for them went up a notch after the last two matches Milan played against them last year. Not by much, but still. They're a very decent footballing side though, gotta give them that. And not to forget they won the last CL final too.

In a war between them, I'd certainly join the merda tifosi!

It was fantastic, unfortunately I couldn't drink. I had a match to play afterwards. A very pleasing result and performance. I would complain about the 2 we let in, but one was a really bad dive for a penalty and the other was just a lapse in concentration in the defense late on. I don't find it acceptable, but we have 2 new defenders and a new GK, they'll take time to get used to each other.

I hope Mr. Capello feels silly now. After finishing the English player with the most assists last season, Ashley Young has jumped to the top of the assist table again, but no call up? And Gabby has 4 goals in 4 days.. but no call up!

Man City do play some great football, particularly Elano and Petrov, but big props to Reo-Coker, he seems to be getting better every game, great work rate and engine, he just never stops running and his break up play is incredible. All in all I'm very happy.. but it;s 1 game into the new season, can't be getting carried away.


Since the EPL started, they've had ridiculous amounts of silly calls go for them, some really outrageous ones. Even if the early years of the EPL. They needed to beat Sheff Wednesday to win the league, the were 1-0 down at OT in stoppage time - 3 minutes were added on - their goals came in the 95th and 96th minutes. There's been a long history of it.

THey were also the original Chelsea. When £1m transfers were considered massively expensive, they were spending that on pretty much every player they bought, while other teams were having to try and find free agents to fit their team. THey basically bought everything they won.

Then you have their fans. I have no problem with people supporting the top teams who aren't local to them to an extent, but it's the constant bragging and the lack of knowledge towards the team that makes it annoying. Some United fans still think the likes of Cantona and Schmeichel play for them, that's how ridiculous it can get, honestly!

1. They cry out every time someone mentions the Busby plane crash, but they think it's perfectly fine to sing stuff like "Hillsbourgh was not enough" and decorate Old Trafford with banners insulting other clubs and players.

2. Alex Ferguson.

3. Even their own captain said the fans were more concerned about their shrimp sandwiches than the match being played.

4. They're utter, absolute and complete pr*cks.

5. Alex Ferguson.

#2 & #5 Because Arsene Wenger, he's such a gentleman of the sport right?!

#1 I don't think they do sing that, maybe the tiniest majority but nothing like the city fans who sing about Munich although they were pretty respectful last year. I think there is a difference between banter and singing about people dying though and they have every right to be upset about that in my eyes.

#3 Agreed about the fans they are quiet as hell but that shouldn't really diminish them should it? I mean at least these fans have been to Old Trafford not like the 98% of Manchester United fans around the globe.

I'm no fan of them but I agree with dst this whole hatred of them seems to be a bit silly. But then again you don't hate clubs unless there good so I guess there's that.

More than Ferguson, yes.

well i despise liverpool even more

he is quite whinny and hypocritical but wenger isnt that much better.

Only a notch. On his worst days Wegner can be quite sour, you of all people should know this Locke. I still recall his comments about Milan. Admittedly he was bitter and sour over the transfer of Flamini, but still, he should have done better than that.

If you cane name me one point in history where Birmingham City could be considered "good" then I'll say you're right!

Off course, and I agree he shouldn't have said what he said about Milan, but I should also know that has said loads of positive things about Milan as well, but since the media doesn't like anything complimentary coming from Wenger they won't write about it.

Ha, did forget about rivalries really!

I mean it's not like anyone from another country would have heard of Birmingham so they couldn't be hated globally!

I'm not sure many people outside of the Midlands even know who they are!

EDIT: A quick note on Valerie Bojinov: He only managed 5 games last season, scoring 2 goals, before he had some cruciate ligament injury keeping him out for the rest of the season. He recovered and had a decent pre-season, only to pick up an injury in the warm-up to yesterdays game. It is believed he will be out for 6 months. That's a real shame for him.

They've won the Championship a couple of times so I guess they were good... for that level...

How does it feel walking around town and seeing their faces?

THis is what makes it even more sad.. they haven't even won the Championship/Division 2 for over 50 years.

I live in a Villa area, so I don't see many Birmingham fans. And those that are fans don't wear their colours.

Well he stepped down today. Took his time, but he's a goner officially. So long then.

Best winger in the league besides Ronaldo? Easily. Best crosser of the ball in the league? By a distance. Give him his contract, MON!

Then when other clubs come sniffing around for him. £30m, no less.

Quality player, didn't think he was that good at Watford and did think why are you spending that amount of money but fairplay he's quality now.

Why he's not in the England team bemuses me.

I'd seen very little of him when we bought him, and I couldn't understand why on earth we were spending £9.65m on him, I thought MON had gone crazy. Probably one of the best buys we've made for a long time though!

Same. Not in the first XI, fair enough. But when he's not making the squad at all..

It seems that Chelsea signed Robinho last night.. A few papers are reporting a £25m deal was done, must have just gone un-noticed with all the international friendlies that went on. Mikael Silvestre has left United to join Arsenal. Good signing for Wenger, at least he won't have to use Senderos so much now.

According to The Sun () MON has been given £25m to buy Roque Santa Cruz (£16m) and james Milner (£9m).. they shouldn't get my hopes up like that..

Arsenal signed Silvestre? Oh that was so much needed...

Are you being sarcastic? I can't tell without the rolleyes emoticon.

He's a very decent striker. One that doesn't get injured so often. Oh, how I wish he'd had played for Milan.

Milner for 9 million?? *Snort*.....This from the bloke who wants 30 mill for Young.

I think he has the ability to play for a better team than Blackburn. Unfortunately I can see Spurs outbidding Villa for him. That's if Blackburn sell at all.


Unfortunately, when your club has debts and a ridiculous wage bill, selling is the only option. Milner + Santa Cruz and we will be complete!