QUOTE (Portikins @ Sep 22 2008, 07:37 PM)

So? He got 2 trophies per year (6 over 3 y). Is that bad?
- Capello can't put Lampard and Gerrard playing together too.
- More likeable? Nor Scolari nor Grant. Nor Ranieri.
- He improved Joe Cole a lot, just to give you an example. Even the player admitted it.
- Don't agree. Check out Porto matches and Chelsea from the first 2 years. You'll easily see you're wrong.
- As a neutral, and knowing many more neutrals, I would say Chelsea is definitely more likeable under Scolari than ever under Mou. Maybe the difference is that they're more humanized now. Same team for some time, no longer considered a bunch of mercenaries. But I definitely feel it's more likeable. If you're still not convinced, ask Inter. As much as Inter are hated, they've never been disliked as much as they are now. Mancini, never attacked other managers, no matter what the provocation.
- He improved Joe Cole?? Maybe...heck I'll even say yes. (Though I think Joe Cole is just SWP with some brains) He also made Drogba, the great Drogba. He destroyed Sheva, almost destroyed Ballack, ruined Cole's effectiveness, wasted a year of Sidwell's career...and so on. Porty I'm not saying he's cr@p..far from it. I'm just saying he isn't inviolate. Like you said, even the great Capello is having trouble.
- Porto remains to me, the one reason why I'll admit Jose has got some ability. Though I suppose FC Porto are the Juventus of the Portuguese League, so surely it wouldn't have been difficult to buy the best in class from most teams, except say Benfica and Sporting. As for the first two seasons, I could point you in the same direction with Ancelotti. The first CL we won, the season following it...

QUOTE (dst @ Sep 23 2008, 04:02 PM)

I like Chelsea more than United but why should he have done that anyway?

His job is to win titles and he did just that...
As long as he's winning he does not need to do that with many goals... who's to say he ever wanted to do that and couldn't?
You're right, he doesn't need to. I'm a football neutral. I hate it when
my team play boring. But I accept it, because there are reasons. So imagine how I'd feel if a team invests millions in importing some of the most technical players in the world, so they can play longball to Drogba??

Look at them play under Scolari, has any of the club targets from Jose's reign changed?? Nope. You think Scolari has been told, "Joga Bonito and f@ck the cups??" He's winning, but he's winning differently. In a way that demands admiration. Jose never gained admiration for his play (which kinda defeats the purpose of a football match). He converted the game of football into a race- Who finishes first! And I'll never forgive him for it.

For all of SAF's/Wenger's sins, this wasn't one of them.
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 23 2008, 04:02 PM)

Yeah just because of Ballack they lost. Please...
They did the opposite. Went further in the CL than ever.

QUOTE (dst @ Sep 23 2008, 04:02 PM)

I'd hate it if he snapped up a youngster like that again but there's something else I wanted to say: What the **** does he need more talents for??!??!?!?!?! Honestly, unless he's a pedophile it makes absolutely no sense!!!
Be careful with the pedo word. It might start off the whole offensive/inoffensive war again. But I think FIFA should really take a look at this. This kinda attitude is no good.